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I am new to the forum, so please be gentle...
I recently rooted my HTC Hero (Sprint) and was wondering if I will be required to unroot when it comes time (whenever it will be) to upgrade to the official 2.1 release. I guess my question really is, will the release automatically undo the exploit that gives me root permissions, or will I have to do it before the upgrade will install?
Why not wait for roms from the 2.1 update..so u dont have to unroot.
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subrm1 said:
I am new to the forum, so please be gentle...
I recently rooted my HTC Hero (Sprint) and was wondering if I will be required to unroot when it comes time (whenever it will be) to upgrade to the official 2.1 release. I guess my question really is, will the release automatically undo the exploit that gives me root permissions, or will I have to do it before the upgrade will install?
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The official release is going to unroot your phone and it will not matter whether you are rooted or not.
Also, if you decide to run the official RUU you may not be able to gain root access again. Most likely a method will be found, but there are no guarantees.
Another alternative is to wait a day after the official release and run one of the custom ROMs here that will utilize the official version, but maintain your ability to keep root.
Also, the process is not automagic. The update will have to be downloaded on your PC or you will have to go to a Sprint Store/Bestbuy to have them do the update for you.
Don't worry about the message you get saying an update is available. It's won't install it self.
But +1 for waiting 24 hours for a dev rom.
danknee said:
Another alternative is to wait a day after the official release and run one of the custom ROMs here that will utilize the official version, but maintain your ability to keep root.
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Um don't u mean probably within two or three hours after official update is out. U know the rom devs will not wait a whole day. Lol
Forgive my ignorance...I used asroot2 to root my Hero vice flashing the ROM, will this make a difference? I have not actually loaded a ROM yet. I downloaded ROM Manager and intend to use it, is it worth while or is there a better way out there?
subrm1 said:
Forgive my ignorance...I used asroot2 to root my Hero vice flashing the ROM, will this make a difference? I have not actually loaded a ROM yet. I downloaded ROM Manager and intend to use it, is it worth while or is there a better way out there?
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Rom Manager only works if you have flashed ClockWork recovery.
Most our devs just do AmonRa updates.
asroot2 is what we all used (for sprint users at least...)(or some variation in the implementation of it)
Pretty much asroot2 allows root access until you flash a rom that has su installed in to the /bin directory. After you have flashed a rom, asroot2 is useless and actually probably removed, never really paid attention.
No appoligies needed for your questions as they have merrit. But searching the forum for "unroot for 2.1 update" would yeild most of these answers.
So I've got the recovery image...which ROM would be recommended to just experiment with? This will be the first time I've done this.
Look for cb.cp-v69 it is the fastest, most stablest Rom everest. Est. ;p
subrm1 said:
So I've got the recovery image...which ROM would be recommended to just experiment with? This will be the first time I've done this.
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Each of the ROMs will have their own distinct look and their own advantages. I would take a day or so to lurk around the Hero CDMA Android Development
forum and read through some of the [ROM] threads and read the changelogs, and what the forum members have to say about it. You will benefit from using any of the given ROMs, but you may find that you like a certain look, or feature that only one of them provides. I'm a flipzmode fan myself, so I run a few variations of fresh ROMs and ROMs based of of flipzmode's work. All of the ROMs that I have tried from each of the ROM devs have been awesome.
I would like to remind ppl, because many of you didn't think about...
If you will apply, 2.1 OTA update, on your 1.5, you will LOOSE ability to root. Don't be fools, and wait until you get "official" rooted 2.1, then flash it by yourself.
Please someone make it more clear if possible...
...But 2.1 official cannot be rooted, after update.
So turn off your Update check on your phone, and wait until there will be 2.1 rooted.
P.S
Looks like there is possibility to downgrade from OTA 2.1!! Omg
May I ask why HEOR upgraded to official 2.1 OTA couldn't be rooted??
It is temporary unable or permanently??
Can you substantiate this claim? Proof that the instantroot method (using the package installer's privileges) does not work on 2.1 for instance?
@iholleh
It's not possible to root at the moment, it could be quite a while before someone figures out how to root it if its already on a device, however if its looked at enough I'm sure they will do it. when its officially released it will be rooted very quickly to be flashed as a zip.
good to know...thanks for hte info!
duck0 said:
Can you substantiate this claim? Proof that the instantroot method (using the package installer's privileges) does not work on 2.1 for instance?
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The problem is you can't say one way or the other.. so if root is important to you then you are better off waiting.
Sent from my HTC Hero
Wezternator said:
@iholleh
It's not possible to root at the moment, it could be quite a while before someone figures out how to root it if its already on a device, however if its looked at enough I'm sure they will do it. when its officially released it will be rooted very quickly to be flashed as a zip.
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Thx bro! I just upgraded to 2.1 OTA and trying to downgrade to 1.5, failed however...
Wait for good news
I think we need to make clear. What to do if.
I installed the first package (First OTA, PART 1, Youtube App update)?
Like I heard in develop, if I installed part 1 update, this stupid youtube update, i need downgrade.
I don't really understand why, and how to do that. I think many of noobs like me are interested, what to do now.
I have promted by my phone that 2.1 update is realeased, and I did not downlnoad it, because I would like to have root, to install in a future Android 2.2, etc.
If so, and i have Firmware build number 2.73.405.93, or 2.73.405.94, or 2.73.405.95. What should I do?
Please someone, write step by step action guide.
(Downgrade, root, install rooted 2.1?) If so, how exactly?
I also understand that, there is 100000000000 of guides out there, but IMHO we need new one for a while.
Situation with "not installed" OTA part 1 is little bit easier? Normal ROOT, and install for coocked, and rooted official 2.1?
polakscot said:
The problem is you can't say one way or the other.. so if root is important to you then you are better off waiting.
Sent from my HTC Hero
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I guess so, but how likely is it that the hero's 2.1 firmware is different in this regard from anything else? A quick google confirmed that the InstantRoot method works on nexus one and motorola droid.
Edit: But a little longer google had me wondering if it does work on 2.1 again. Sorry, I should check more carefully. If anyone has tried it do step up.
Check out dev. section. Looks like there is way to downgrade.
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shadow_fi said:
Check out dev. section. Looks like there is way to downgrade.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
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Correct, just run the RUU
can confirm, this works ...
What if I want to root it up to 2.2 (Froyo) that would be fine because it is like you are upgrading to newer firmware?
Hi i just have a stupid question :
i'm quite lost with all the stuffs about the 2.1 update :
i have a 1.5 stock rooted rom on my hero.
i would like to update to 2.1 but keep the root thing.
and i want not to wipe my phone
So what i undestand is :
- if i update : i'm not root anymore and won't be able to do it with the 2.1
- if i want to be 2.1+root i have to use a full rom (rooted) to have both but i have to wipe my phone.
Is that right ?
Is there or will it be a way to have an update (not wiping phone), in 2.1, and with root maintained from my 1.5 ??
Thanx for help.. i don't what to do with this ota update...
Ciao
Fred
frederikk said:
Hi i just have a stupid question :
i'm quite lost with all the stuffs about the 2.1 update :
i have a 1.5 stock rooted rom on my hero.
i would like to update to 2.1 but keep the root thing.
and i want not to wipe my phone
So what i undestand is :
- if i update : i'm not root anymore and won't be able to do it with the 2.1
- if i want to be 2.1+root i have to use a full rom (rooted) to have both but i have to wipe my phone.
Is that right ?
Is there or will it be a way to have an update (not wiping phone), in 2.1, and with root maintained from my 1.5 ??
Thanx for help.. i don't what to do with this ota update...
Ciao
Fred
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No... You are going to have to root.
But you can just back-up with something like MyBackUp-Pro
Ok but i silo bave to root what? The 2.1 updated phone? But i understood or is not possible yet ? For the backup dors à android one is ok?
Thanx
Ciao
Fred
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andrewb84uk said:
Correct, just run the RUU
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what do you meen visit dev section?what is dev section?thanks.
frederikk said:
Ok but i will bave to root what ? The 2.1 updated phone? But i understood or is not possible yet ? For the backup dors à android one is ok?
Thanx
Ciao
Fred
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I think i don't understand.
I'm with 1.5 rooted phone. If i update, i will be with a 2.1 phone non rooted. But is it possible to root the 2.1 ? I already have the boot menu with ramon ra recovery. So the update won't touch it ?
But in fact i change the date to june 2011 on my phone yesterday.. and i have no update notification
Ciao
Fred
shadow_fi said:
I would like to remind ppl, because many of you didn't think about...
If you will apply, 2.1 OTA update, on your 1.5, you will LOOSE ability to root. Don't be fools, and wait until you get "official" rooted 2.1, then flash it by yourself.
Please someone make it more clear if possible...
...But 2.1 official cannot be rooted, after update.
So turn off your Update check on your phone, and wait until there will be 2.1 rooted.
P.S
Looks like there is possibility to downgrade from OTA 2.1!! Omg
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I might be out of subject and truely I know nothing about rooting but I know by fact that downgrading from official 2.1 to official 1.5 took about 15 minutes to proceed on my unlocked Hero today..
As per a forum member of XDA-Developers , he states that HTC Wildfire Which is soon to get its Official 2.2 Froyo Update , Is a good news for some , but will give tough times to others , other uses who wish to Root their Android Device.
In Details warriorvibhu Explains that HTC Wildfire will be provided with a OTA Update with HBoot , a Bootloader which would be harder to crack / modify in order to Root the device.
What do you think about this???
dungquoc said:
As per a forum member of XDA-Developers , he states that HTC Wildfire Which is soon to get its Official 2.2 Froyo Update , Is a good news for some , but will give tough times to others , other uses who wish to Root their Android Device.
In Details warriorvibhu Explains that HTC Wildfire will be provided with a OTA Update with HBoot , a Bootloader which would be harder to crack / modify in order to Root the device.
What do you think about this???
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Yes unrEVOked no longer works although as is the case with ANY update we can downgrade and use unrEVOked
Just install danne_Jo's ROM and forget about ruu and losing root.
42turkeys said:
Yes unrEVOked no longer works although as is the case with ANY update we can downgrade and use unrEVOked
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Can you downgrade this ROM? I had installed ROM and I can not downgrade ROM. UnrEVOked dont work, visionay and z4root dont work? Help me hack root.
dungquoc said:
Can you downgrade this ROM? I had installed ROM and I can not downgrade ROM. UnrEVOked dont work, visionay and z4root dont work? Help me hack root.
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What did visionary do? That should work :|
EDIT: looks like you've tried everything, however I have no sympathy for you, everyone is warned about accepting HTC updates and rooting
Also don't hold out hope of unrEVOked doing anything, to be brutally honest they couldn't care less about the Wildfire
42turkeys said:
What did visionary do? That should work :|
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Yes visionary dont work. I tried that app. hix. HELP...
Download RUU and extract the ROM out of the .exe, then let it go through Android Kitchen and we got a Official ROM with root.
rooting?
So means Unrevoked will not update to help poor guys updated to 2.2?
Are you sure maybe they will figure out something to provide it!
a1exander said:
Download RUU and extract the ROM out of the .exe, then let it go through Android Kitchen and we got a Official ROM with root.
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Please Show me the step?
a1exander said:
Download RUU and extract the ROM out of the .exe, then let it go through Android Kitchen and we got a Official ROM with root.
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Please, please tell me how! I have a thread on this, I debranded my phone but want to put t mobiles Rom back on but I get 'wrong bootloader'
Iv tried what u suggested but get 'bad zip'.
instructions would be soooo helpful
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
bassmonkey said:
Please, please tell me how! I have a thread on this, I debranded my phone but want to put t mobiles Rom back on but I get 'wrong bootloader'
Iv tried what u suggested but get 'bad zip'.
instructions would be soooo helpful
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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Just download one of these ROMs, just what I said has been done to them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877243
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879032
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878115
a1exander said:
Just download one of these ROMs, just what I said has been done to them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877243
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879032
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878115
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Thank u 4 ur reply, however I want to put the stock t mobile Rom back on to my debeanded wildfire, in effect re-branding it, but when I try the ruu I get 'wrong bootloader' I can't find or seem to get any help as to how I solve this
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bassmonkey said:
Thank u 4 ur reply, however I want to put the stock t mobile Rom back on to my debeanded wildfire, in effect re-branding it, but when I try the ruu I get 'wrong bootloader' I can't find or seem to get any help as to how I solve this
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They are exactly as the stock except for some stuff like Apps2SD added.
a1exander said:
They are exactly as the stock except for some stuff like Apps2SD added.
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I want all the t mobile branded, non rooted, no cool stuff added, bog standard crap so I can send it off 4 repair tho
even the most talented devs were noobs once... so there's hope for the rest of us!
a1exander said:
Just download one of these ROMs, just what I said has been done to them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877243
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879032
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878115
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The first, my wildfire dont root.
So the second, dont install that ROM. hix
Downgrade???
Do you think the technical staffs of HTC com can downgrade this ROM to OS 2.1? They invent the upgrade utility software, so do you think they can do downgrade???? I am going to the warranty my device. How do you think so?
I am wondering the same, what would happen when I try to flash the 1.37 RUU back on the phone?
If you have upgraded to the offical Froyo either OTA or from RUU your stuck in a hole.
The update changed the bootloader in the Wildfire meaning it is currently impossible to root (which rules out custum ROMS) and you can't role back to a previous RUU because they are written with the old boot loader.
Thats what the original OP of this thread is about.....the fact that it could be a while before it's going to get re rooted via unrevoked or any other method.
So your just gonna have to wait until rooting is supported again by Unrevoked or some other app, or some clever sod figures out how to change the new Boot loader.
Hope someone figures it out soon :/
dungquoc said:
As per a forum member of XDA-Developers , he states that HTC Wildfire Which is soon to get its Official 2.2 Froyo Update , Is a good news for some , but will give tough times to others , other uses who wish to Root their Android Device.
In Details warriorvibhu Explains that HTC Wildfire will be provided with a OTA Update with HBoot , a Bootloader which would be harder to crack / modify in order to Root the device.
What do you think about this???
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I had Warned abt this 4 months back.. check here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=744927
How to root officially upgraded 2.2 ? Upgraded to 2.2 and lost superuser and root.......................
tharani29 said:
How to root officially upgraded 2.2 ? Upgraded to 2.2 and lost superuser and root.......................
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Epic... . There are no easy way to get root on 2.2.
But let you be informed about the downgrade to 2.1. Seek for the topic in this forum.
There were so many same questions, use search, people
But to answer your question, you cant root this rom, YET.
I am folowing the unrevodkedtest channel on irc and they are searching for a solution.....one of the people say that they are working on it.
try it
and report us
post their irc address, i am interested too
IT is possible to downgrade The wildfire 2.2 to 2.1?
Thanks....scusmy for my bad english
No nor can you root
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emiliano7 said:
IT is possible to downgrade The wildfire 2.2 to 2.1?
Thanks....scusmy for my bad english
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Due to the update in the newest 2.2 update, HTC have fixed leaks which had been used by many users to Root their system in order to gain root access that will allow users to install other ROMs and other operations. It is not in the interest of HTC for users to Root their devices as this avoids the standard warranty.
There are ways to downgrade to HBoot, however the risks are too high and would not recommend it. I had to do it for my HTC Desire...scary as fark...would not recommend it.
You may have to wait until solutions can be developed, however, this may take some time since developers of one-click root solutions to find a leak on the new updated HBoot.
Be patient and wait =(
emiliano7 said:
IT is possible to downgrade The wildfire 2.2 to 2.1?
Thanks....scusmy for my bad english
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901660
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898411
Please watch the forum for your question next time before posting... not nice to see the same questions repeating 100x times. This shows lack of your attention and respect to this forum.
unrevoked
unrevoked are on the case and as we speak trying to crack the new HBOOT they have done it for some phones so wont be long
genericmann said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901660
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898411
Please watch the forum for your question next time before posting... not nice to see the same questions repeating 100x times. This shows lack of your attention and respect to this forum.
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This has nothin to do with respect i bought my wf and 2.2 was already on it.
And there was a solution for downgrading but that does not work on al wf's
ryanraven said:
unrevoked are on the case and as we speak trying to crack the new HBOOT they have done it for some phones so wont be long
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FANTASTIC to read something like that! ;-) altough I'm very pleased with the froyo ROM, i just hate the idea of an open source os (or rom) beeing locked, especialy one with the potentials like android.
Where did you get that information from?
Erwin
ryanraven said:
unrevoked are on the case and as we speak trying to crack the new HBOOT they have done it for some phones so wont be long
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how do you know?