[Q] Desire HD as a development phone - Desire HD General

Hi.
Im new here, and I think each and every one of you is awesome.
Really.
I would like to get into Android development (and also have a nice phone, my current one is an LG Viewty. I'l wait for the laughter to cease before I go on! Haha)
So, I am considering getting this DHD as my first Android phone, with a strong view to developing apps. Would you guys (infinitely more experienced with Android development and devices) recommend this as a good phone to use for this purpose?
Im a big guy, and so the larger size, heaviness of the device appeals to me. That, and I can get it on a plan here in Australia. It would also serve as my primary (only) phone, not a phone I only use for development.
Any thoughts? opinions? suggestions? flames?
All welcome!
Thanks!
Tinason.

Amazing phone....
Got it the minute i could. Jus Looking to earn About development and such more myself. This gas been missive kearning curve for a phone Thats a vouch From me
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Actually, it is pretty much irrelevant what phone do you use as development phone, if all you do is developing standard applications and you are not a ROM cooker. So yes, as long as the phone suits you, it can be used as development phone - all phones have the "USB debugging" option, which is enough for ADB/DDMS/Android SDK . I personally "demoted" my Motorola Milestone to the "development phone" status, while Desire HD will be my daily usage phone.

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[DISCUSSION] HD2 + Android or WP7, real talk.

Hello everyone!
I'm new here, but have been lurking and scouring the forums for a while now. I'm not a dev or anything, so I'm a total noob when it comes to cooking up roms and such... although I've done pleanty of flashing on different devices. I'm treating myself to a new phone as a late birthday present, and the HD2 looks like the best offering at the moment (or anytime soon) from T-Mobile. I just don't want to be stuck with such awesome hardware, running an OS that will be mostly obselete in a few months.
I've read that MS will continue to support WM 6.5, but we all know their deal... it'll be an afterthought once WP7 is released. I would be fine with upgrading to WP7, but unfortunately the HD2 has two too many buttons to meet the HW requirements (according to MS at this point.)
The main thing that makes me believe porting Android would be more plausible, is the upcoming release of the EVO. The hardware is so similar, it's hard for me to believe that it's not possible. Once the EVO is released, could someone use the Android 2.1 image from it, and modify it to run on the HD2? Again, I'm not a programmer, so I'm probably completely wrong... but would love to be proven otherwise.
I'm just looking for some of you with more knowledge and experience to give me some technical insight before dropping $450 on a new phone that will be out-of-date and no longer supported (for the most part) in 6 months. I would also like to keep this thread on topic, so please don't bother slagging the HD2 and suggesting other devices.
Thanks!
and another thread pops up =(
search the forum there are literally tons of threads about this
TONS especially on android
for wp7 there is no news since march 28th announcement so that means nothing more to report than the initial issues had
this is also in the windows phone 7 forum
if you want the phone, get the phone. Winows mobile is a good and highly customizable operating systme on its own and I like it.
you won't regret getting this phone, I sold my nexus one for it, and I don't even miss N1 (simply because it is not the best android phone anymore, HD 2 the best winmo up to date).
I am also a noob, but I encourage myself very often. Now android can run on iphone, what else would stop those geniuses from creating such miracles on HD2. All I have to do is enjoying the phone from the minute I have it, and stick to the forum.
I wouldn't buy the HD2 purely on the speculation of an Android port. There's no certainty that it will ever happen, and if it does, who knows how long it will take.
There are ports for older HTC models and the iPhone, but you have to keep in mind that those handsets have been out for a while, and have had many months, if not years, of development behind them. The HD2 and the snapdragon processor are relatively new, and development is starting from the ground up. It may take up to a year or more before a functional android port is available, and by then, there will more than likely be better hand-sets out there.
domineus said:
and another thread pops up =(
search the forum there are literally tons of threads about this
TONS especially on android
for wp7 there is no news since march 28th announcement so that means nothing more to report than the initial issues had
this is also in the windows phone 7 forum
if you want the phone, get the phone. Winows mobile is a good and highly customizable operating systme on its own and I like it.
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Thanks for the reply!
I've actually searched many times, and read tons of threads on this topic. The problem is, most of them are cluttered with TONS of vague info and flaming, with a tidbit of useful info here and there. I was hoping to open some discussion and spark some ideas or interest, maybe try and centralize the info.
Sorry for stepping on any toes, but this is the "T-Mobile USA HD2" general discussion forum, so I figured this would be the best place to start. I just searched the development forum and found a similar thread. I just didn't check there, as I was intending to discuss the possibility and such, not actual developing. Mods, if I'm out of line here, please move or lock this thread appropriately.
Thanks!
Edit- to the other posters, thanks for sharing experiences with me! I wasn't planning on buying the HD2 soley in hopes of porting Android, I guess I'm just looking for reassurance from folks that I'm not getting myself into a device that isn't worth the effort. I love modding my phones, but would rather not be stuck beating a dead horse in a few months. The feedback is greatly appreciated, and makes me feel much better about my decision.
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There are ports for older HTC models and the iPhone, but you have to keep in mind that those handsets have been out for a while, and have had many months, if not years, of development behind them. The HD2 and the snapdragon processor are relatively new, and development is starting from the ground up. It may take up to a year or more before a functional android port is available, and by then, there will more than likely be better hand-sets out there.
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this is true. android on the iphone only works on the iphone 2g as far as i can tell, and that phone is over 4 years old i believe. building linux kernels for a specific phone takes time, and most likely it'll take years to perfect. the ports out now for older winmo phones are useable but obviously not perfect.
i bought my hd2 mainly because it looks like pure sex to me. hehe. windows mobile didnt bother me at all since ive been using windows mobile phones since 2007. dont get me wrong, android is pretty good too. used that for about a year. each os has its own pros and cons i guess.
gilla409 said:
to the other posters, thanks for sharing experiences with me! I wasn't planning on buying the HD2 soley in hopes of porting Android, I guess I'm just looking for reassurance from folks that I'm not getting myself into a device that isn't worth the effort. I love modding my phones, but would rather not be stuck beating a dead horse in a few months. The feedback is greatly appreciated, and makes me feel much better about my decision.
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you wont regret getting this phone. in my opinion htc did a good job with sense, making windows mobile user friendly and whatnot, but if you dont like sense, it can be easily disabled. also the stock rom to me works fine right now but there are a lot of other roms made for the hd2 already so its pretty customizable as is already.
caffeinejunky said:
this is true. android on the iphone only works on the iphone 2g as far as i can tell, and that phone is over 4 years old i believe. building linux kernels for a specific phone takes time, and most likely it'll take years to perfect. the ports out now for older winmo phones are useable but obviously not perfect.
i bought my hd2 mainly because it looks like pure sex to me. hehe. windows mobile didnt bother me at all since ive been using windows mobile phones since 2007. dont get me wrong, android is pretty good too. used that for about a year. each os has its own pros and cons i guess.
you wont regret getting this phone. in my opinion htc did a good job with sense, making windows mobile user friendly and whatnot, but if you dont like sense, it can be easily disabled. also the stock rom to me works fine right now but there are a lot of other roms made for the hd2 already so its pretty customizable as is already.
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Cool, thanks for the info!
I usually try to keep from modding straight away, but after checking some roms in the development forum, I'm sure I'll start flashing sooner than later, hehe. The main thing I'm liking about the HD2 is it comes stock with the apps I'm most likely to use. I had a 2g iPhone a while back, but found I didn't use most of the apps I installed, and gave it up for a 3g device. Most of what I'm looking for is games/entertainment and themes, and I believe I've found what I'm looking for. If I'm not happy, I may try to cook up something of my own... there's certainly pleanty of resources here to get me started!
Again, I apologize for the redundant thread, but I appreciate all the feedback. This is exactly what I was looking for!
gilla409 said:
Hello everyone!
I'm new here, but have been lurking and scouring the forums for a while now. I'm not a dev or anything, so I'm a total noob when it comes to cooking up roms and such... although I've done pleanty of flashing on different devices. I'm treating myself to a new phone as a late birthday present, and the HD2 looks like the best offering at the moment (or anytime soon) from T-Mobile. I just don't want to be stuck with such awesome hardware, running an OS that will be mostly obselete in a few months.
I've read that MS will continue to support WM 6.5, but we all know their deal... it'll be an afterthought once WP7 is released. I would be fine with upgrading to WP7, but unfortunately the HD2 has two too many buttons to meet the HW requirements (according to MS at this point.)
The main thing that makes me believe porting Android would be more plausible, is the upcoming release of the EVO. The hardware is so similar, it's hard for me to believe that it's not possible. Once the EVO is released, could someone use the Android 2.1 image from it, and modify it to run on the HD2? Again, I'm not a programmer, so I'm probably completely wrong... but would love to be proven otherwise.
I'm just looking for some of you with more knowledge and experience to give me some technical insight before dropping $450 on a new phone that will be out-of-date and no longer supported (for the most part) in 6 months. I would also like to keep this thread on topic, so please don't bother slagging the HD2 and suggesting other devices.
Thanks!
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They have been working on porting linux and android to the HD2 for months now. It's not an easy process, as I have stated in the many threads that get started about this. The EVO rom cannot just be ported over. The N1 is just as close hardware wise... they actually used the N1 as a starting point for creating the linux kernel. The Evo may help a little with some drivers.
You have to understand... the kernel for the msm72xx devices (touchpro, TP2, kaiser, etc.) was started over 3 years ago... and they still don't have a fully-functional android port. There will be an android port eventually, but by time theres a fully functional port, there will be many nicer android phones out. Expect it to take a year or more for a fully-functional port, if it's ever FULLY-functional. Search the Rom section in the original Leo section for the official linux project thread.
Get the phone if you like WinMo 6.5. If not, wait for another phone. Trust me, there will be just as nice Android phones for tmobile in the next few months, and WinPhone 7 phones by the end of the year.

Why Android???

Honestly!...
Why should I flash "googles" Android into my Bad Ass HD2???
No Joke! I need to know what all the fuss is about...
Why you ask? Well for a number of reasons. A search will tell you all of that as im sure this question has been asked over and over lol.
If you need to ask...
Seriously, why don't you just try it? You're not flashing anything. You won't lose any of your current information. I was enjoying the hacked versions of WinMo on my HD2, but now with Android I don't feel I need to ever go back.
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If you need to ask...
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This.
If you need to ask you don't belong in this forum section. Please go back to WinMo.
If you need to ask you don't belong in this forum section. Please go back to WinMo.[/QUOTE]
lol
Let's be nice. Android is pretty limitless many things can be added. Winmo is sorta outdated. Right now winmo has a lot of community support but that's just not enough. Try it . Dont expect anything and see what you get.
Biggest problem I see is winmo users go into android expecting the same experience.
sent from my hd2.
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If you need to ask you don't belong in this forum section. Please go back to WinMo.
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lol[/QUOTE]
Funny one
topic: some things are better with android, some arent. I think the interesting fact is to chose the operating system YOU want to use.
You can compare it with the operating system situation on your PC. Some people want to use Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, MacOSX,.....
I think it's a perfectly legitimate question: Not everyone has the love of digital adventures, tweaking or driving someone with more knowledge up the wall we do.
Why not just say what you like about Android? Unless you're not sure....well?
I enjoy reconfiguring my phone. I must have flashed custom WinMo ROM's a hundred times and radios tens of times. Configuring script to put my applications back the way they were, testing the build for smooth operation, stability and features had been a thrill of mine...my hobby, I guess you'd say, since the HD stemming from late 2008.
Android just kind of picks up where Winmo left off. I'm using Elegancia ROM and have been for months. It works great with the Android offerings.
Is Android better? If that's your question, then in my opinion, WinMo is better than Android on the HD2 as of this writing, by Android on this device is catching up incredibly fast.
Maybe you'll like it, maybe not. If your interested enough to chance getting flamed, then you are most likely a candidate to give it a go.
3 simple reasons
1. faster internet browsing
-android have simply a faster browsing experience for me, faster than opera on wm anyday
2. market
-the abundance of customization and application in the android market vs the wm store is like comparing a walmart to a gas convience store for choice of app and avaibility of apps
3. utility
-android simply utilize our screen and hardware much more efficently than windows. try the foursquare app on windows, and then try the foursquare app on android, it's like comparing a dirt road to a 5 lane highway in terms of usability and speed
audscott said:
I think it's a perfectly legitimate question: Not everyone has the love of digital adventures, tweaking or driving someone with more knowledge up the wall we do.
Why not just say what you like about Android? Unless you're not sure....well?
I enjoy reconfiguring my phone. I must have flashed custom WinMo ROM's a hundred times and radios tens of times. Configuring script to put my applications back the way they were, testing the build for smooth operation, stability and features had been a thrill of mine...my hobby, I guess you'd say, since the HD stemming from late 2008.
Android just kind of picks up where Winmo left off. I'm using Elegancia ROM and have been for months. It works great with the Android offerings.
Is Android better? If that's your question, then in my opinion, WinMo is better than Android on the HD2 as of this writing, by Android on this device is catching up incredibly fast.
Maybe you'll like it, maybe not. If your interested enough to chance getting flamed, then you are most likely a candidate to give it a go.
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perfectly put but still deserved a flame or two lol
infiniteecho said:
This.
If you need to ask you don't belong in this forum section. Please go back to WinMo.
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LMAO
To the OP: Exactly what everyone else said (apart from infiniteecho)
Try it and see. Nothing to lose except maybe half an hour of your time.
As said above its 'hoarses for coarses'. I wasnt expecting much from Android because Minmo did everything I needed +more, plus it looked ok visually IMHO using CHT etc.
But android just feels slicker somehow...plus I'm not yet missing any of the features that I thought I really loved in winmo. Just the fact of having a good Market is a BIG plus for some people (myself now included although I always thought I'd never care for thousands of mainly pointless apps )....Android is generally a LOT more finger friendly than any 6.5.x build..... the list goes on.
Personally I am becoming a convert FAST. I will almost deffinately switch soley to Android when a proper android rom is released.
Dual booting is great and its always nice to have the option of two O/S's, but I find myself wanting to see Winmo less and less everytime I wake my new Android phone from its beuty sleep I just dont love Winmo like I used too lol.
But the only way you will ever really know is if you try it for yourself go on you (probably) wont be dissapointed.
WinMo stock = sack of **** on the HD2, you have to hack and slash away until you eventually get something that works. Then, and only then can you continue to play around with it.
Android, out of the box it works, and your free to play around with it and make it your own. If it wasn't for Android my HD2 would have be sold.
The touch screen and general Windows Mobile performance just pissed me off, you could triple the power of the HD2 and you still wouldn't get a smooth, slick experience.
Phil
thatruth132 said:
perfectly put but still deserved a flame or two lol
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LOL,
hmmm... yeah true it was flameworthy I suppose
NATIVE FULL ADOBE FLASH 10.1! Only available in Android.
memin1857 said:
NATIVE FULL ADOBE FLASH 10.1! Only available in Android.
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Reason enough for anyone imo.
lonelykatana said:
Reason enough for anyone imo.
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1+ on this one!
Thousands of apps straight from the marketplace, as opposed to a few hundred you have to get off the internet.
Oh, and flash.
Android is so good, why the hell did htc ship the hd2 with winmo?
Also hats off to the devs for making this possible, to use android on the best phone out there!
Good One.
infiniteecho said:
This.
If you need to ask you don't belong in this forum section. Please go back to WinMo.
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Please go back to WinMo...too funny.
i like android because of the limitless apps, you'll never need for anything again for a phone. the market was the main reason for me because most apps are free, now google maps include free navigation! windows mobile who? lol plus even with android being ported to our hd2 it out performs windows mobile, less freezes and errors. programmed to work better! internet browsing, smoother and faster. once u learn all the features and how to use widgets u will like wmo less and less. i never seen myself becoming a fan of android when i was solely against it when i had touch pro 2
Me??? Because WinMo is Sh*t. If I couldn't have loaded Android on this HD2... it would have been on Craigslist an hour after I got it.
Unless of course bloated, clunky, slow, crashing, lack luster garbage is someone's thing... l would advice them to stay away from Android.
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[Q]HD2 Droid vs Nexus One?

Dilemma -- I have someone that wants to buy my Stock HD2 without Android for $350 (us dollars) so that I can purchase the N1.
What you guys suggest? Keep my HD2 w/ Android which is overclocked and working flawless w/ Android or sell it and get the Nexus One root it, Froyo 2.2, etc?
PS,
I know its not available online, I know a few private sellers that N1's for sell.
what does this have to do with develpment ...oh wait it doesnt ,
need to be closed ..so many other sections to post this
thatruth132 said:
what does this have to do with develpment ...oh wait it doesnt ,
need to be closed ..so many other sections to post this
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no general android forum so he can do what he want , don't like the usless threads generated every munits just ask for general android forum
thread... i dont know how to tell you this.... i think you have until 18:00GMT to live... im sorry
btw hd2, n1 is butt ugly
Frankly if you're interested in Android and Android alone, I'd go with the Nexus One. While the quality of Android builds on the HD2 has improved, its still not at the level of phones designed with it.
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no general android forum so he can do what he want , don't like the usless threads generated every munits just ask for general android forum
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thread rules state develoment only , if it was me i would be asking members in the market area...
another useless thread...but to answer your question, HD2 will eventually get NAND soon, seeing as the HTC Kaiser already has android NAND. After the HD2 gets NAND it will be better than the nexus one, wiping out windows mobile all together and running flawlessly from boot.
thanks, closed!
wait a bit for android ROM and u will get the answer
i had the n1. i did not like the build quality and wasnt really feeling the design. the material used for the display felt kind of thin. like the g1 screen. in my opinion and experience with the two, the hd2's build quality and design are far more superior than the nexus one.
i am running the shu8i android build and is one of the lucky one's to not have too many problems. with the hd2 running android and just about stable, i'd choose the hd2 over a nexus one. i dont know if you have had any other android phone, but with custom rom's you will also run into problems once in a while. when i had the nexus one and running some custom roms, i would get random reboots and freezes(depending on who's rom), same as some people running android on their hd2. so dont think just because you are getting a device that originally came with android it will run 100% stable when running custom roms.
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i am running the shu8i android build and is one of the lucky one's to not have too many problems.
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+1
I would choose my HD2 over the N1 =)
Can the Nexus One run windows? Does the Nexus One have a 4.3 inch screen? HD2 FTW!
Just to clarify, its HD2 ANDROID.
Droid is a whole other phone.
Disagree
DeekoVB5 said:
Frankly if you're interested in Android and Android alone, I'd go with the Nexus One. While the quality of Android builds on the HD2 has improved, its still not at the level of phones designed with it.
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I bought a spanking new Desire off Amazon and after putting Shubcraft on my HD2 promply sold the Desire. To get the Desire running the way I wanted it too would have taken the same amount of work to get my HD2 going. More than happy with HD2 now. Plus the phone has proved to be a real head turner out in public as various fanboyz from other platforms as well as Android want to know what the hell it is.
I like both phones but prefer the bigger screen of the HD2.
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Although i love my HD2 and use it more than my nexus one, i cant see myself getting rid of the nexus one until I have a G2. So to answer your question, until nand becomes a reality, the best android phone is a pure android phone.
I just came from the my touch slide and know a lot of developers that traded their nexus one for HD2.I'm looking forward to seeing awesome things on this phone from them. Being patient is going to be difficult but well worth it.
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Frankly if you're interested in Android and Android alone, I'd go with the Nexus One. While the quality of Android builds on the HD2 has improved, its still not at the level of phones designed with it.
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Partially agree... but can you say for Droid X, MyTouch 3G, Evo 4G - that Android runs perfect on them? I think you are leaning towards saying "partially No"...
I have played with Droid X, Evo 4G and MyTouch - out of three two first are great, but Android OS was everything but NOT SMOOTH. Therefore, even my HD2 wins how smooth it is with 2.2 ... I have no doubt it will be smooth on these two once 2.2 is available (as it is now I think) - but still, phones "designed" for Android have not much to do with OS itself - just marketing deal between two companies, that's all...
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Partially agree... but can you say for Droid X, MyTouch 3G, Evo 4G - that Android runs perfect on them? I think you are leaning towards saying "partially No"...
I have played with Droid X, Evo 4G and MyTouch - out of three two first are great, but Android OS was everything but NOT SMOOTH. Therefore, even my HD2 wins how smooth it is with 2.2 ... I have no doubt it will be smooth on these two once 2.2 is available (as it is now I think) - but still, phones "designed" for Android have not much to do with OS itself - just marketing deal between two companies, that's all...
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you are right , there is no hardware designed for certain os exept the buttons , my hd2 with mattc builds runs smoother than my friend's htc desire in some tasks , may be the developers here made better drivers than HTC , add on that that we have real multitouch that doesnot exist in allot of htc android phones including (desire and nexus ) and now we only 4 steps far from fully android Hd2
1. light sensor
2. improve g sensor drivers
3. compass calibration
4.in call volume increase
and these are not big issues
I was also thinking trading HD2 for a Nexus, but can't get rid of 4.3" screen, so I decided to stick with the mighty HD2

Another HD2 vs Others thread

Ok so here's the thing. I've always been a phone modder, started with Motorola and have always used Motorola's, but frankly they just messed up with their Android phones which is why i have decided to abandon them. Now im considering buying an HD2, mainly because of the flexibility it offers modding wise, however i plan to use Android as my main OS.
The thing is, i know the HD2 wasn't built for Android, but my understanding of it is that it runs almost perfectly if you have the right radio/rom/android build combination, plus magldr will allow for native NAND boot and WP7 has been ported by Cotulla (I am unaware of the functionality of it). I was thinking about an HTC G2 but with it being locked from permaroot that kind of rules it out, and i've heard the hinge quality is terrible. Also, the HD2 has decent hardware for a year old phone, but newer phones are offering BT 3.0, A8 processor, dedicated GPU, S/AMOLED screens, etc.
So overall im looking for a phone that will give me the best bang for my buck, and is flexible modding wise (this is critical). I don't want a phone thats just push a button and it works, theres no fun in that. So what would you guys do? Go for the HD2 which is already a year old phone or get something newer (SGS, G2, Desire, etc)? Build quality is also something important, I dont want the phone with the best specs if its built completely out of cheap plastic. The HD2 is also the cheapest option of most current phones, so yeah.
All opinions are welcome.
If you plan to use it entirely for android then I think you want the Desire HD instead......
Price is an issue, the Desire HD is too expensive for me lol, besides its also permalocked
what do you mean by permalocked?......
maybe an evo if your in an area where you could make most of it......
if not then yeah you might as well go for the HD2.........
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what do you mean by permalocked?......
maybe an evo if your in an area where you could make most of it......
if not then yeah you might as well go for the HD2.........
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It means that the Desire HD and the G2 have built in protection that makes permanent root impossible as all changes to the eMMC are cached and erased upon reboot, so you can root the phone but it will be reset once you reboot. I can't use CDMA, has to be GSM
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It means that the Desire HD and the G2 have built in protection that makes permanent root impossible as all changes to the eMMC are cached and erased upon reboot, so you can root the phone but it will be reset once you reboot. I can't use CDMA, has to be GSM
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Didnt realise that....... im pretty clueless when it comes to android....
that however, has put me off ever replacing my HD2 with a native android device....
Did you consider the iPhone?
Just kidding.............
Lmao never! And it's just those HTC Android devices that are locked, i believe. Motorolas are also locked but i believe Samsungs are good
Just go and get it,Android works flowless on it, WM isnt as bad as they say it is.And the build quality is second to none,I just dropped it yesterday while taking a picture,not a single scratch.
WM is so much fun for tweaking, and Co0kie's Home Tab is a dream come true...
Android works amazingly - except for me battery-life remains an issue, so research this if you think it's your preferred OS.
But as a phone to tweak with, with a choice of 2 OS's and another 2 hopefully on the way, the HD2 is a fantastic choice, a great form-factor, and probably relatively cheap as it's a year old.
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Lmao never! And it's just those HTC Android devices that are locked, i believe. Motorolas are also locked but i believe Samsungs are good
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I could never trust a samsung, my fiance had 2 and they both broke.......
as much as I hate her iPhone I must say that it sure is a sturdy device to cope with what she puts it through on a daily basis..........
as for my next phone............ when I get an upgrade I think Im just gonna sell it and buy a couple of spare HD2's
So yeah I think you should opt for the HD2......
The galaxy s phones are really good. I myself am using a vibrant running a custom rom. Its an awesome phone especially once u start modding it. You should browse the vibrant forum and see what all is going on.
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Thanks for the replies, i just got a Tmous HD2 on ebay for US$206

[Q] I'm new and useless... is there a step-by-step?

I'm purchasing a used HD2 next week and want to know if there is a thread or some other resource that can walk me through the process of installing Andoird on it, in a step-by-step fashion. Also, can someone let me know what the most up-to-date HD2 Android rom release is, and how far along it is? I've never done this before, but I really want to dive in head first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905841
Dive in
Thanks!
I will start reading all of those guides and post more specific questions as I go along.
Any chance someone could tell me what the most up-to-date Android rom is right now?
heres a more direct one for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
Most of us use this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877777
hitting the Thanx meter for me would be nice if this helps
For the love of money and your sanity.. why are you buying an HD2 if you want to run Android??? Buy a desire HD (same size screen, more RAM).. at least it was built and designed for android! Android wont run as smooth on the HD2 as it will on the desire
Benny_L said:
Thanks!
I will start reading all of those guides and post more specific questions as I go along.
Any chance someone could tell me what the most up-to-date Android rom is right now?
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Benny, since "up-to-date" is a fairly subjective term, and the available builds of Andoid (both NAND and SD) change daily (or more!), then that's not a question with a easy, single answer.
Your best bet is to first pour thorugh all the guides that motomudder linked you to above, and then once you've done that you'll be better equiped to know exactly what you want/need in a ROM, and then it'll be much easier for you to go through the available choices and make the best decision for you.
Also, questions like this (and others you have) should either go in the Q&A section, or in the thread for the ROM they're related to...I'll move this one over there now, but please be mindful of this in the future
farcry27 said:
For the love of money and your sanity.. why are you buying an HD2 if you want to run Android??? Buy a desire HD (same size screen, more RAM).. at least it was built and designed for android! Android wont run as smooth on the HD2 as it will on the desire
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PMSL are you for real Android runs flawlessly on the HTC HD2, of course if you've got money to burn id recommend the Desire HD it costs substantially more than the HD2 but in reality isn't THAT much better.
farcry27 said:
For the love of money and your sanity.. why are you buying an HD2 if you want to run Android??? Buy a desire HD (same size screen, more RAM).. at least it was built and designed for android! Android wont run as smooth on the HD2 as it will on the desire
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farcry, although they may not be immediately obvious to you, there are many reasons why an HD2 might be a more suitable solution for somebody, even those who want to run android. Please don't assume that your perspective and experience applies to everyone else
farcry27 said:
For the love of money and your sanity.. why are you buying an HD2 if you want to run Android??? Buy a desire HD (same size screen, more RAM).. at least it was built and designed for android! Android wont run as smooth on the HD2 as it will on the desire
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MOD EDIT: Flaming comments removed
There is MANY MANY reasons why somebody would want want a HD2 specifically for Android over a Desire HD.
1) Price!
2) Specs are very similar.
3) Multiple choice for OS so multiple choice for apps/games.
4) Android runs VERY well on HD2.
5) Price!
6) Price!
7) and more and more.
Thank you for all the replies!
The biggest factor here is price, as many people have already stated. Although network compatibility is actually something I'm relying on right now. I'm in Toronto (Canada), where we have 2 new mobile providers that run on the same AWS band as T-Mobile USA. I'm purchasing a used T-Mobile HD2 so that I can use it (unlocked) on one of these new carriers.
As far as I understand, the Desire HD doesn't even exist in an AWS version, so it's not even an option for me at all. And even if it was, I wouldn't spend that kind of cash on a phone right now. I'm getting the HD2 for a great price... that's what encouraged me to go this route.
Off topic, but has anyone else noticed the price of hd2 has gone UP in the past week or two? Coincides with a couple of software releases as well as articles ABOUT those releases. Just thought it was funny how everybody is now discovering the power of this phone and therefore the price has almost doubled since new year's eve.
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Ya, I ended up paying a bit more than I originally expected to. I still got it for dirt cheap compared to the other options that currently exist. Well now that I have it I am very eager to get Android running on it. Wish me luck...

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