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Best Realtime PUSH Email for WM3/WM5 Available NOW-It Works!

Found this incredible realtime PUSH email solution for WM2003 and WM2005 devices. Works like vgsmail (IMAP IDLE Client being developed) but MUCH more stable, reliable, and faster (it's been around a while and they have big company partners)! It consists of a small syncing program that supports true push and links with the built in Messaging app, you just need to keep it minimized but running on your Pocket PC in the background (doesn't seem to slow down the device). Upon installation, the software also creates an account in the Messaging application where your mail is kept.
You just download the sync application, they give you 500mb of server space and a cool web mail interface (looks like Outlook) that also stores and syncs calender, contacts, and tasks. You can just use it for mail and continue using ActiveSync with Outlook for everything else, that's what I do. They also gives you a free utility to sync the email on your account with Outlook on your desktop so you stay up to date!
It's called office2go and it's from space2go:
https://shop.space2go.com/faces/shop/index.jsp
I tried it on our WM5 WiFi device and it was rock solid! I signed up for a free 30 trial of office2go and downloaded the PUSH Email client. I just forward my ISP's POP3 mail to this account and within a few seconds, it shows up on my PPC in the Messaging app. It runs reliably, no crashes or lock ups yet. Outgoing mail is sent immediately, no need to hit SEND/RECEIVE anymore! Also deletes from server immediately and keeps sent mail in sync. The sync application has great downloading and scheduling options as well.
They deliver TRUE PUSH mail today, and for what you get, the easy setup, and reliability, I think it could be worth it.
Give it a try!

Best Exchange ActiveSync App alternative?

Like others I've discovered HTC Mail isn't compatible with Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync (Gmail Exchange ActiveSync works fine).
I've installed Touchdown but dislike the interface (it's also 20 bucks!) and also Improved Mail (v1.75) which also works fine but:
1. You cannot Move e-mails into another folder
2. Unlike HTC Mail it doesn't show the amount of unread e-mails on the home screen shortcut.
3. And the killer: It support HTML e-mails. How can a modern e-mail app not support HTML e-mails?
Are there any other Exchange ActiveSync e-mail apps I can use instead? Where can I download the Google Nexus One e-mail app?

K-9 mail.
mail droid?

celestialspring said:
K-9 mail.
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Thanks but this only works with Exchange 2003 not Exchange ActiveSync:
http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/wiki/K9MailAndExchange
I've only just discovered this because I've spent the last 30 mins trying to get it to connect and it keeps timing out.
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Thanks but this only works with Exchange 2007.

Anyone? Thanks

how about Moxier Mail...
http://www.moxier.com/mail/
looks nicer than TouchDown.. although when i tested Moxier (2.7) it didnt support HTML emails on Ex.2003 unlike Touchdown.
Moxier also appears to hold the downloaded emails on the phone memory so ran out quite quickly.. Maybe 2.8 is better now. havent tried.
for now i use TouchDown when i'm away from the office.

Thanks Kazgor.
I've just installed v2.5 and it doesn't support HTML e-mail on Exchange ActiveSync either. I cannot find a newer version. What is it with HTML support?
It's no good, if it doesn't support HTML e-mail. Pity as otherwise it looks good.

Give Roadsync a try - works fine for me although needs some improvement to match the Symbian version...

I was reading another thread on this earlier this week on xda and this link was in it. It describes how to load the normal android email app. Its for 2.2. I don't know If this supports what you need.
http://digiex.net/computing-section...tc-desire-google-nexus-one-android-2-2-a.html
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Thanks guys. I've now tried:
1. Native Nexus One E-mail App
2. Improved E-Mail v1.75 (not the new v2.00 yet)
3. Touch Down
4. RoadSync
And all work perfectly fine with Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync but none support HTML e-mail. RoadSync says it does in it's text in the market and the owner of Improved Mail says it's also supported.
So I'm thinking this is a bug with Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync.
I've also discovered on the Improved E-Mail website (www.mwebster.us) that moving mail when using Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync won't sync this back to the server, due to Microsoft’s implementation of Exchange ActiveSync. Great!
Thanks cjm1979. I tried that awhile ago and the same problem. Incidentally, if that really is the Native Nexus One e-mail program, it's identical to Improved E-mail. Leading me to believe, Google licensed it from the owner.
So right now, as I need HTML e-mail more than Exchange ActiveSync. I'm using the HTC Mail app with POP3 .

I've received a rather interesting reply from the owner of Improved E-Mail, regarding HTML E-mail and Moving e-mail between folders not working:
"I think the problem is that the Hotmail activesync is based on Exchange 2003 (Why I have no idea - that's 2 versions ago), and it does not send html mail to mobiles, at least to most email apps I know of - I think this may be a server side issue, but I still plan on looking at it, since I'd like to be able to receive html from other account types as well.
It *should* support marking/unmarking and deleting and having that propagate to the server. I was going to verify but I can't setup my hotmail account right now for some reason.
Also remember, hotmail doesn't 'officially' support Android yet, so maybe things will get better."

I've been using the Seven client on mine. It works with Hotmail and Exchange, with minimal configuration (less than a regular client). Not even sure if it's using Exchange ActiveSync as it has a dedicated hotmail option that works perfectly well with push mail and displays as HTML. The Exchange option asks for the webmail URL (actual URL, not just mail server) and also works perfectly well.
Hotmail option syncs contacts but doesn't offer the option to sync calendar.
Exchange option syncs all 3.
The contact search function is fairly unresponsive, as in I searched for a contact and waited ages and gave up.
The widget is very rudimentary. It takes up half the screen and shows the last 3 Exchange emails. Doesn't give me any option to choose which account it displays email for, so effectively no widget for my hotmail.
It doesn't really come close to the standard HTC mail app, other than actually working for hotmail which the HTC doesn't...
Hope this helps?
I am keen to find an alternative for HTC mail as well. I am still using my Windows Mobile 6.5 phone and no hotmail is one of the main reasons why!

Thanks Mitel.
How can I get hold of Seven Client? I cannot find it on the Market place.

mital said:
The Exchange option asks for the webmail URL (actual URL, not just mail server) and also works perfectly well.
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Can you get this working with Hotmail? I enter https://m.hotmail.com and it errors saying:
"An error occured. Please try again (100)."
Interestingly the Gmail option does offer Contacts + Calendar. Only Contacts for Hotmail, like you say. It's a brilliant application but has some problems:
1. There is no Shortcut option, so you have to open the App from the Home screen and then it takes another tap to go to my Gmail or Hotmail Inbox.
2. Because of this, the App shortcut doesn't display the Unread e-mail count.
3. The Sent folder for both Hotmail and Gmail is local only. It's impossible to either display, sync or even have e-mails sent in Hotmai's Sent Items or Gmail's Sent Mail folder. Odd!
4. If e-mail needs to be truncated it displays as Plain Text and if it doesn't need truncating, it displays as HTML (if relevant). I'd prefer all html e-mails displays as html regardless but to get the option to switch to html you have to scroll to the bottom of e-mails and some newsletters are really long. There is no option to set if e-mail is displayed as plain text of html as default.
5. As said, the widget is weak but I don't use the widget for e-mails, so this doesn't bother me.
6. It's Push Mail only. The HTC Desire's battery doesn't sadly allow me the luxury of Push Mail.
The last one is a deal breaker. It's a shame as the setup is so easy (for Gmail/Hotmail it's just the username/password) and the interface is really well thought out. The unified inbox works well too. The search function works fine for me, pulling in contacts from the phone, sim card, gmail (if relevant) and hotmail (if relevant).
I didn't bother trying the Seven IM app because it only supports Gtalk and MSN. I need both MSN and Facebook Chat/IM support.
You can download the combined Seven E-Mail + IM App from here: http://community.seven.com/main.php

I downloaded the seven app version 23.41.6437_3_z7-android2x.apk
The IM for MSN works for me but I can't do any email.....
NO:
hotmail
gmail
yahoo
exchange
I wiped my phone a couple times. Still nothing. Stock EVO....

got roadsync, works nice

Here I come to hijack a thread for a device I didn't own but stumbled across as I was googling Android email apps.
In case you weren't aware, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the email apps or the way they connect to Hotmail using the exchange protocol.
It's purely that Hotmail Exchange via m.hotmail.com doesn't support HTML yet - it's a Microsoft issue. Will they ever implement it - who knows? But the fact remains if you want your Hotmail in HTML format then you're stuck with connecting via POP3 for the moment.
HTH.

Does HTML e-mail work on supported devices like the iPhone?
It works in Touch Down on Android but the UI is pretty ugly. I understand this bends the Exchange ActiveSync rules to support it. Why MS are using Exchange 2003 is strange.

No, HTML Hotmail is a no-go regardless of the device or app you are using. Hotmail simply does not support HTML over their Exchange connection, only POP3.
If you are asking about straightforward HTML in your email when connecting to say a corporate exchange account, then yes, obviously depending on the app and version of exchange.
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Thanks
HTML e-mail does work using Touch Down though. I've seen it myself (make sure you're using the latest version, it didn't use to work). That is HTML e-mail using Hotmail Exchange ActiveSync, not corporate Exchange.

bradavon said:
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HTML e-mail does work using Touch Down though. I've seen it myself (make sure you're using the latest version, it didn't use to work). That is HTML e-mail using Hotmail Exchange ActiveSync, not corporate Exchange.
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Huh, well I never. I guess I'll have to try it.

How can I use Hotmail to exchange and view the HTML email.

Good morning friends. I'm not able to get my hotmail email is viewed in HTML format. I can not access the option where it is marked: Just text.
Can anyone help me.
After the experience of e-mail today without HTML is seriously injured.
Accepted options even paid. Since use my hotmail.
I appreciate the help as always.

marcionavarro said:
Good morning friends. I'm not able to get my hotmail email is viewed in HTML format. I can not access the option where it is marked: Just text.
Can anyone help me.
After the experience of e-mail today without HTML is seriously injured.
Accepted options even paid. Since use my hotmail.
I appreciate the help as always.
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Just google hotmail mobile

sportbilly2009 said:
Just google hotmail mobile
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How is this friend ... Can detail ..?

Touchdown does allow hotmail access with push (activeSync) and HTML viewing apparently
But it's not free
For my part I use the 2.2 stock email client extracted from a nexus one to have push mail on hotmail (I have a custom domain), as the htc client isn't able to do it due to a bug (even after the latest OTA). But it is in plain text, no html rendering...

samsenteur said:
Touchdown does allow hotmail access with push (activeSync) and HTML viewing apparently
But it's not free
For my part I use the 2.2 stock email client extracted from a nexus one to have push mail on hotmail (I have a custom domain), as the htc client isn't able to do it due to a bug (even after the latest OTA). But it is in plain text, no html rendering...
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Does it have to be a nexus one? Ive got a stock 2.2 mail app but its hit and miss whether not push works

dunno... But the version I use does push very well (5 accounts on it, all receiving mail in less than 30 sec...)

samsenteur said:
Touchdown does allow hotmail access with push (activeSync) and HTML viewing apparently
But it's not free
For my part I use the 2.2 stock email client extracted from a nexus one to have push mail on hotmail (I have a custom domain), as the htc client isn't able to do it due to a bug (even after the latest OTA). But it is in plain text, no html rendering...
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Latest OTA solved this. However, it's still in plain text.

Yup latest update works with hotmail, however no HTML and also a buggy refresh problem as well.

Not usable for me: looping on the first message, I never get the others...
HTC still got some work on it...

Exchange Hotmail and HTML
Don't waste your time. The exchange hotmail doesn't permit to read html emails.
You'll have to wait that Microsoft update exchange, and if it takes the same time that they took to implement exchange, we'll have to wait 5 or 6 years...

That's completely not true.
Touchdown seems to work with html emails on Hotmail.
So definitively it's an htc issue.

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Yup latest update works with hotmail, however no HTML and also a buggy refresh problem as well.
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Hi All,
How can I make this update or find info about it?
Just bought the device (had TouchPro before) and found out that hotmail exchange won't work with HTC mail
I need exchange for contacts sync, so I installed the stock android email program like some others.
Having two mail programs isn't really good.
I am very new to this device and android..
Thanks
Eren B.

You'd better use the Mobile version of Windows Live Hotmail which can be accessed here: http://m.mail.live.com
You have to sign in once and after that Android will save your credentials.
I did it also and made a shortcut on my home screen, so when I click on that shortcut, my Hotmail will be loaded. Works fine, better than with the built-in Android Mail client.

Thanks but I can not use the web-version to sync my contacts..

I personally only use the stock email app with 5 hotmail accounts (even on my own custom domain), and no pb to sync contacts.
I simply ignore the htc lame app until they fix it...

What's the status of this issue with the new gingerbread OTA? (can't test it as I'm on a biz trip in the US)

samsenteur said:
What's the status of this issue with the new gingerbread OTA? (can't test it as I'm on a biz trip in the US)
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I´ve tried with Hotmail EAS and the new OTA Update today.
It failed for me.
It synced only new emails and after i readed these emails it will never mark as read.
Now i will use Enhanced Email that works fine, i cannot understand where HTC has the problem to fix it

To stop the refresh bug happening change the days to sync from the default 3 days to 1 day.
I use the stock gingerbread htc mail app, push exchange on hotmail and everything works well apart from HTML which annoys me badly.

PDub11 said:
To stop the refresh bug happening change the days to sync from the default 3 days to 1 day.
I use the stock gingerbread htc mail app, push exchange on hotmail and everything works well apart from HTML which annoys me badly.
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What will affect this setting exactly : will you still keep the old messages in the phone? Does it just stop to sync the read/deleted status after 1 day old?
My phone is actually using 1 month sync in the stock mail app, but I've seen that the phone keeps all mails forever...

I've tried your settings:
It is OK with mail push indeed, and contacts are OK too.
But I get many sync errors, they last many minutes draining battery, and I've noticed that many times, my read mails are not marked as read on the computer.
=>For me it is still buggy and not really usable.
I'll continue to use the stock mail app. Curently I'm using the froyo one with no pb (except no HTML), does anyone have the Gingerbread one? is it worthy to change?

Mail or gmail ????

People, i want to know what do u use for Gmail account emails???
Do you use "mail" or "gmail" ???
Well,in mail you can set the synchronosation and retrival timings and frequency.
While using the "gmail" , u cannot set frequency of sync of mails.
Do suggest what is best for Gmail???
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Guess it's personal taste, but I myself prefer the Gmail app, since mail notifications appear pretty much the second the mail arrives, and not on the next sync

I prefer gmail app too. There is no synch time, because gmail app have push notification.
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I peter the Gmail app as well. Main reason is push notification and send as feature.
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I had the same dilemma, HTC mail or gmail....
The gmail app has at least 2 important features missing:
1. There is no pinch to zoom (you can't zoom, this can be very frustrating at times).
2. There is no notification for incoming mail in labels (you only get notified for the main inbox).
For these reasons I finally decided to use k9 mail. It has much more features than the gmail app, supports push as fast if not faster than the gmail app including for labels, and zoom works as well as with HTC mail.

Mail can of course push gmail as well. When setting up an account don't choose googlemail (POP3/IMAP), but set it as Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync using details as described on http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
I know it shows how to set it up on Windows Mobile, but you just need to use the same domain etc.
It will then push email just as it arrives to your mailbox. On my DHD it always beeps earlier than notification addon installed on Google Chrome on my PC when email arrives.

I'm using Gmail with all my other emails imported into it, so I only have to check one inbox to read mail from my AOL, MSN, Hotmail, Roadrunner, and of course, Gmail itself. Very nice mail app.

I use Gmail.

Gmail. If only because I can't be bothered setting up anything else.

Gmail. It's painless.
Cheers from my DHD.

mail
Mail (gmail push). just because i use widgets .

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Mail can of course push gmail as well. When setting up an account don't choose googlemail (POP3/IMAP), but set it as Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync using details as described on http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
I know it shows how to set it up on Windows Mobile, but you just need to use the same domain etc.
It will then push email just as it arrives to your mailbox. On my DHD it always beeps earlier than notification addon installed on Google Chrome on my PC when email arrives.
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The problem with HTC mail is the same as with the gmail app : it doesn't push the labels; so any new mail you have set to go to a label will not get notified (for instance, I get no notification for my alias email that goes to a sub folder aka gmail label).
K9 Mail has solved this problem. It's the only free mail app so complete and it just "works" where the 2 others above fail.

Tbh, I do prefer Gmail but when I got a reply from co pilot I had to reply within their email and I couldn't because it did not allow me to edit via my phone, its a shame really as I needed to send the email whilst I was on the move, but comparing the two, I do prefer the Gmail overall. The normal email has problems syncing and sometimes brings up emails from ages ago which I had forgotten about
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I use Mail to sync with my my company's exchange server, mostly for calender and contacts so I know what im meant to be doing, I wont sync my mail unless there is something specific i need.
I still use gmail app for my gmail personal account.
I have found that HTC's exchange sync app really good, other people in the company have samsung androids or stock androids and have difficulties.

I haven't found a way of getting hold of attachments in the Gmail app... You can only view attachments if it's a document type that Gmail can handle.

Email client

So the factory email client is driving me crazy with msn and hotmail. You have to scroll to the bottom of the screen for almost every e-mail to very any if the pics or really the real email. Is there a setting I am missing or something. If not what is the best email client for msn and hotmail.
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Nothing?
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mtunender said:
So the factory email client is driving me crazy with msn and hotmail. You have to scroll to the bottom of the screen for almost every e-mail to very any if the pics or really the real email. Is there a setting I am missing or something. If not what is the best email client for msn and hotmail.
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Try Kaiten (successor to K9). It's my favorite allaround email client and handles pop, imap, and exchange equally well. Simple UI that just works as expected. Great dev that keepa it ipdated as android changes.

My preferred email client is enhanced email. supports exchange push and of course imap. Not free, but when I got this phone it was the best available for the price IMO.
My Note10 has not arrived yet so I can not comment on performance/compatibility with it.
swyped from my MIUI powered Defy (WIUI-2.5.27Plus+ES+V6)

Some of my problems with the email clients are msn/hotmail issues. I want a app that will display whole email every time including pics and keep email in sync with my computer ie. (mark read and delete) I am using live Mail on my computer. I have not found what I am looking for so far.
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The stock e-mail client's actually pretty powerful. It looks kind of cartoonish but works well. Set up your MSN and/or Hotmail accounts using ActiveSync. In the stock clients settings add a new account and put in your MSN/Hotmail e-mail address(es) and then click next. On the page that comes up click "manual settings" and select ActiveSync. The fields should be pre-populated. If they're not try these settings...
http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/h...hotmails-new-push-email-service-now-available
If they don't work do a Google search and see if you can find anything newer. The advantage of this is that you'll get your e-mail via push and not have to have mutliple e-mail clients running. I disable the GMail app and receive mail via push using ActiveSync in the stock client. That way all my e-mail's in one place and color coded. The stock e-mail widget's nothing to write home about but its workable.

I tried all that but still have to scroll to the bottom of each email and select load more information to get anything but the unreadable message. Not sure if this is hotmail of the email app. Any ideas?
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