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Will HD2 US do aol / yahoo push mail? I've looked at the manual and no mention?

I've looked all over..and can't find a section that mentions push mail from yahoo, aol, etc.
I'm coming from the iPhone so the push mail works on the Yahoo side and I believe on the aol side.
I know that MS exchange has push feature to the phone but what about the other standards? gmail?
I noticed on Cookies HT there is a push mail icon but that did not work (i take it that's for ms direct push?)
Lastly...is there a setting or app that allows ALL mail to send / receive vs just doing one account at a time (annoying)?
Thank you!

the microsoft direct push functionality (supported on ALL windows mobile devices in at least the past 3-4 years) works with ANY microsoft exchange server.
this means it will work for gmail (i am using it myself!) because google has the exchange server on their end. google itself provides a generic windows mobile tutorial on how to set it up and you can find a video guide on youtube specifically on how to set it up on a stock HD2 (technique should work on custom ROMs too). my only additional advice is to back up your contacts (either to microsoft myphone or using pimbackup) before proceeding because the google sync can also upload your contacts to google, and you don't want your contacts to get nuked in case something goes wrong during the initial sync. another potential confusion you might face is that you will see the labels set up on gmail as folders on your device's client. by default, syncing of folders is disabled, but you can go into "manage folders" under one of the menus when viewing your inbox on the device to pick the folders that you want to sync in addition to the inbox. finally, the first sync may take several minutes (even an hour) depending on the duration you have set up to sync (i use a setting for last one month worth of emails) and on your connection speed (try to use wifi for the first sync).
i don't know about yahoo or aol but if they support the microsoft exchange server on their side, then push email should theoretically work in these cases also.
all in all, i rather like the functionality because it is highly configurable. you can even set up "schedules" such that it works in push mode on, say, weekdays from noon to midnight and switch to, say, 4 hour poll mode while you are sleeping.
then again, i haven't experienced push email on any other device such as the black berry or iphone so my view point is rather limited.

Simply put yes. I have yahoo pop3 servive and get my yahoo mail just fine on the HD2

dubie76 said:
Simply put yes. I have yahoo pop3 servive and get my yahoo mail just fine on the HD2
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pop3 in "poll mode" is different from push email, which is what the OP was asking about.
however, for most practical purposes, pop3/imap in quick poll mode (like once every 5 minutes) is really not that bad, but it might adversely affect battery life.
i suppose poll mode is fine for most of us but some individuals/businessmen might rely on quick email delivery straight to their phone so its more logical to consider poll vs push as two separate technologies in discussions!

Do the folders selected to be sync with inbox will sync automatically?
ASCIIker said:
another potential confusion you might face is that you will see the labels set up on gmail as folders on your device's client. by default, syncing of folders is disabled, but you can go into "manage folders" under one of the menus when viewing your inbox on the device to pick the folders that you want to sync in addition to the inbox.
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Hi,
I was searching for this and thank you for letting me know how to do it! I didn't know there is a "manage folders" option until I scroll down (Din knew I can scroll down, lol)
By the way, as mentioned above, do the folders selected sync automatically? Will they appear on the mail tab?
Thank you.

guys i have been searching for a way to get push email with yahoo on my hd2 but till now i got nowhere!i get into activesync but iam suck on where i have to write "domain" and "server" details!any help appreciated!

fuorigioco1981 said:
guys i have been searching for a way to get push email with yahoo on my hd2 but till now i got nowhere!i get into activesync but iam suck on where i have to write "domain" and "server" details!any help appreciated!
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you can create an exchange account using your gmail login,if you have it,otherwise you can create a new gmail account and use it for send/receive your mail in push:in gmail web page you must add your yahoo account for check and than configure the exchange as i explane!

pop3 is NOT push. There is a delay. Depends on when you have it checking.

As far as i know, the default windows mobile does NOT support push email for yahoo. If you want push email, use seven like i did. Worked fine on my hd2.
http://community.seven.com/main.php
It will allow push email from yahoo and many others. It is NOT an email app where you read them in seven, but a tool to push it to your phones normal email program. (what you would be using now)
I have been using it for a long time and had no problem.

hotmail

Having probem with hotmail, using web browser instead of mail client since last night the log in page when downloaded is completely blank. Been like this since last night. Have tried clearing cache and history, rebooted phone also, but still same. Anyone else had this problem?

Exactly the same here. White screen constantly

how come you're not using the mail client..??
Sent from my x10 using XDA and swype.

Me three. Also noticed that the interface looked different.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

i think that's cause your windows live mail account has been upgraded by microsoft..it has some new features etc.
quite a lot of people have started getting the NEW windows live mail upgrade from last week

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I have experienced problems with mail client and hotmail.

Odd - I've got a hotmail.com account and mine works fine through the mail client.. k-9.. and timescape.. but i do get the WSOD (!!! White screen of death!!) when I try to access via my browser..

Wierd.. I'm running rooted 024 n hotmail via dolphin browser works perfectly normal for me. looks more neater/nicer than before!!
Sent from my rooted 024 x10i using swype via xda!!

On your phone, manually enter the website http://mobile.live.com
That should bring you to the new version of the hotmail site.

I just tried the new hotmail website using dolphin browser, nice, it allows me to dl the attachment now.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

I can see my Inbox, but when i click on a msg i get nothing?
Any ideas what the work around is?

marlon32 said:
I can see my Inbox, but when i click on a msg i get nothing?
Any ideas what the work around is?
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same problem here

You can now forward your hotmail to any email address. I have mine forwarded to my gmail account and use gmail to read/reply. Works awesome.

I still don't understand why you aren't all using the mail app to sync with your Hotmail account.. I do ... and it works fine.

im_iceman said:
I still don't understand why you aren't all using the mail app to sync with your Hotmail account.. I do ... and it works fine.
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If I use the mail app to sync my hotmail account, it can only sync every 5 minutes. With Gmail, it is almost instantaneous (like push email).
I will get my hotmail email faster via forwarding to my gmail account that having the mail app check every 5 minutes.
That is why I do it via Gmail.

Candy[MAN] said:
If I use the mail app to sync my hotmail account, it can only sync every 5 minutes. With Gmail, it is almost instantaneous (like push email).
I will get my hotmail email faster via forwarding to my gmail account that having the mail app check every 5 minutes.
That is why I do it via Gmail.
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But why should you have to do this?
I should be able to goto the hotmail site and view emails like
I did before.
I don't understand the need to forward my msgs to another email addy when i already ahve one...that's crazy!
There must be a solution?

Hotmail site gives me a blank page on the default browser, however! it works on opera browser

marlon32 said:
But why should you have to do this?
I should be able to goto the hotmail site and view emails like
I did before.
I don't understand the need to forward my msgs to another email addy when i already ahve one...that's crazy!
There must be a solution?
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Hotmail doesn't support push notifications on mobile devices (yet) Microsoft said this should be coming by the end of the year. Can't find the link atm, but shouldnt be too hard to google

pngface said:
Hotmail doesn't support push notifications on mobile devices (yet) Microsoft said this should be coming by the end of the year. Can't find the link atm, but shouldnt be too hard to google
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Actually, it does but only on Windows Mobile devices. I used to have push with hotmail and Exchange at the same time with Windows Mobile.

naplesbill said:
Actually, it does but only on Windows Mobile devices. I used to have push with hotmail and Exchange at the same time with Windows Mobile.
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Guess its just not supported for android then

Hotmail active sync!!! For sense builds!!!

So its a known issue that hotmail active sync doesn't work on sense builds.. I found by using the stock email app not htc's you can set up hotmail using the corporate sync settings. here is the apk from vanilla android working great with my hotmail account and mdeejay desire build. just make sure the server is m.hotmail.com. check both boxes bout certificates and make sure you only add @hotmail.com to user name do not remove the /. The domain box should remain blank..
Sent from my HTC Vision HD2

i have been waiting for this for a very long time...thank you!

Absolutely G-R-E-A-T!
A must-have app, now you can have three push mail accounts on your device, thanx

vysus said:
A must-have app, now you can have three push mail accounts on your device, thanx
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Gmail is excellent on Android. Just go into gmail and have it receive your hotmail emails too?
Gmail tells you from which email account each email is and replies from the same account that received the message. Of course as far as i know theres no Gmail widget for emails? (someone tell me if one exists, not that i search specifically for it)

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Gmail is excellent on Android. Just go into gmail and have it receive your hotmail emails too?
Gmail tells you from which email account each email is and replies from the same account that received the message. Of course as far as i know theres no Gmail widget for emails? (someone tell me if one exists, not that i search specifically for it)
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Active sync is for more than just push emails though especially if you have Outlook which many do. And Gsyncit is a pay for app which active sync can do for free in one step. Also if you have lots of folders like I do on my outlook then you can't access these either.
EDIT: I have tonight discovered a solution to my problem of not being able to set up my Hotmail Exchange Active Sync. I have been trying for ages to set this up using the normal HTC email client. It kept reporting it had failed and I should try again later. So I found another email app called Improved Email and tried it with that and what do you know? It works! So now I am synced via Hotmail Exchange and my emails come instantly. In fact they arrive faster on my HD2 than on my home PC running outlook! So it begs the question why can't I set this up on the HTC email client??

Working now in the stock sense email app in EVO 3.70.651.1 Build

Just to confirm - once this is done, we can access our Hotmail via the HTC email app, or do we have to use the stock Android one?
Thanks!

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Gmail is excellent on Android. Just go into gmail and have it receive your hotmail emails too?
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Can you please explain how to get the Gmail app to use a hotmail account? I too like the Gmail app and would rather use it than "email", but when I go to add an account it goes to the "Add a Google Account" screen, with no posibility to do anything other.

Hi
This is almost perfect now i have two hotmail accounts linking with my HD2 running android on NAND using the DFT stock rom
One thing i can not get to sync is the contacts ???
All e-mail and folders and both calanders sync but not the Contacts
i have tried 3 other roms all the same problem
Help
Steve

Sorry to revive this thread but will this work on a HTC Aria? Apparently the Aria also suffers from the same bug that wont allow you to sync your phone with hotmail.

Best Exchange ActiveSync App alternative?

Like others I've discovered HTC Mail isn't compatible with Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync (Gmail Exchange ActiveSync works fine).
I've installed Touchdown but dislike the interface (it's also 20 bucks!) and also Improved Mail (v1.75) which also works fine but:
1. You cannot Move e-mails into another folder
2. Unlike HTC Mail it doesn't show the amount of unread e-mails on the home screen shortcut.
3. And the killer: It support HTML e-mails. How can a modern e-mail app not support HTML e-mails?
Are there any other Exchange ActiveSync e-mail apps I can use instead? Where can I download the Google Nexus One e-mail app?

K-9 mail.
mail droid?

celestialspring said:
K-9 mail.
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Thanks but this only works with Exchange 2003 not Exchange ActiveSync:
http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/wiki/K9MailAndExchange
I've only just discovered this because I've spent the last 30 mins trying to get it to connect and it keeps timing out.
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Thanks but this only works with Exchange 2007.

Anyone? Thanks

how about Moxier Mail...
http://www.moxier.com/mail/
looks nicer than TouchDown.. although when i tested Moxier (2.7) it didnt support HTML emails on Ex.2003 unlike Touchdown.
Moxier also appears to hold the downloaded emails on the phone memory so ran out quite quickly.. Maybe 2.8 is better now. havent tried.
for now i use TouchDown when i'm away from the office.

Thanks Kazgor.
I've just installed v2.5 and it doesn't support HTML e-mail on Exchange ActiveSync either. I cannot find a newer version. What is it with HTML support?
It's no good, if it doesn't support HTML e-mail. Pity as otherwise it looks good.

Give Roadsync a try - works fine for me although needs some improvement to match the Symbian version...

I was reading another thread on this earlier this week on xda and this link was in it. It describes how to load the normal android email app. Its for 2.2. I don't know If this supports what you need.
http://digiex.net/computing-section...tc-desire-google-nexus-one-android-2-2-a.html
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Thanks guys. I've now tried:
1. Native Nexus One E-mail App
2. Improved E-Mail v1.75 (not the new v2.00 yet)
3. Touch Down
4. RoadSync
And all work perfectly fine with Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync but none support HTML e-mail. RoadSync says it does in it's text in the market and the owner of Improved Mail says it's also supported.
So I'm thinking this is a bug with Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync.
I've also discovered on the Improved E-Mail website (www.mwebster.us) that moving mail when using Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync won't sync this back to the server, due to Microsoft’s implementation of Exchange ActiveSync. Great!
Thanks cjm1979. I tried that awhile ago and the same problem. Incidentally, if that really is the Native Nexus One e-mail program, it's identical to Improved E-mail. Leading me to believe, Google licensed it from the owner.
So right now, as I need HTML e-mail more than Exchange ActiveSync. I'm using the HTC Mail app with POP3 .

I've received a rather interesting reply from the owner of Improved E-Mail, regarding HTML E-mail and Moving e-mail between folders not working:
"I think the problem is that the Hotmail activesync is based on Exchange 2003 (Why I have no idea - that's 2 versions ago), and it does not send html mail to mobiles, at least to most email apps I know of - I think this may be a server side issue, but I still plan on looking at it, since I'd like to be able to receive html from other account types as well.
It *should* support marking/unmarking and deleting and having that propagate to the server. I was going to verify but I can't setup my hotmail account right now for some reason.
Also remember, hotmail doesn't 'officially' support Android yet, so maybe things will get better."

I've been using the Seven client on mine. It works with Hotmail and Exchange, with minimal configuration (less than a regular client). Not even sure if it's using Exchange ActiveSync as it has a dedicated hotmail option that works perfectly well with push mail and displays as HTML. The Exchange option asks for the webmail URL (actual URL, not just mail server) and also works perfectly well.
Hotmail option syncs contacts but doesn't offer the option to sync calendar.
Exchange option syncs all 3.
The contact search function is fairly unresponsive, as in I searched for a contact and waited ages and gave up.
The widget is very rudimentary. It takes up half the screen and shows the last 3 Exchange emails. Doesn't give me any option to choose which account it displays email for, so effectively no widget for my hotmail.
It doesn't really come close to the standard HTC mail app, other than actually working for hotmail which the HTC doesn't...
Hope this helps?
I am keen to find an alternative for HTC mail as well. I am still using my Windows Mobile 6.5 phone and no hotmail is one of the main reasons why!

Thanks Mitel.
How can I get hold of Seven Client? I cannot find it on the Market place.

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The Exchange option asks for the webmail URL (actual URL, not just mail server) and also works perfectly well.
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Can you get this working with Hotmail? I enter https://m.hotmail.com and it errors saying:
"An error occured. Please try again (100)."
Interestingly the Gmail option does offer Contacts + Calendar. Only Contacts for Hotmail, like you say. It's a brilliant application but has some problems:
1. There is no Shortcut option, so you have to open the App from the Home screen and then it takes another tap to go to my Gmail or Hotmail Inbox.
2. Because of this, the App shortcut doesn't display the Unread e-mail count.
3. The Sent folder for both Hotmail and Gmail is local only. It's impossible to either display, sync or even have e-mails sent in Hotmai's Sent Items or Gmail's Sent Mail folder. Odd!
4. If e-mail needs to be truncated it displays as Plain Text and if it doesn't need truncating, it displays as HTML (if relevant). I'd prefer all html e-mails displays as html regardless but to get the option to switch to html you have to scroll to the bottom of e-mails and some newsletters are really long. There is no option to set if e-mail is displayed as plain text of html as default.
5. As said, the widget is weak but I don't use the widget for e-mails, so this doesn't bother me.
6. It's Push Mail only. The HTC Desire's battery doesn't sadly allow me the luxury of Push Mail.
The last one is a deal breaker. It's a shame as the setup is so easy (for Gmail/Hotmail it's just the username/password) and the interface is really well thought out. The unified inbox works well too. The search function works fine for me, pulling in contacts from the phone, sim card, gmail (if relevant) and hotmail (if relevant).
I didn't bother trying the Seven IM app because it only supports Gtalk and MSN. I need both MSN and Facebook Chat/IM support.
You can download the combined Seven E-Mail + IM App from here: http://community.seven.com/main.php

I downloaded the seven app version 23.41.6437_3_z7-android2x.apk
The IM for MSN works for me but I can't do any email.....
NO:
hotmail
gmail
yahoo
exchange
I wiped my phone a couple times. Still nothing. Stock EVO....

got roadsync, works nice

Here I come to hijack a thread for a device I didn't own but stumbled across as I was googling Android email apps.
In case you weren't aware, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the email apps or the way they connect to Hotmail using the exchange protocol.
It's purely that Hotmail Exchange via m.hotmail.com doesn't support HTML yet - it's a Microsoft issue. Will they ever implement it - who knows? But the fact remains if you want your Hotmail in HTML format then you're stuck with connecting via POP3 for the moment.
HTH.

Does HTML e-mail work on supported devices like the iPhone?
It works in Touch Down on Android but the UI is pretty ugly. I understand this bends the Exchange ActiveSync rules to support it. Why MS are using Exchange 2003 is strange.

No, HTML Hotmail is a no-go regardless of the device or app you are using. Hotmail simply does not support HTML over their Exchange connection, only POP3.
If you are asking about straightforward HTML in your email when connecting to say a corporate exchange account, then yes, obviously depending on the app and version of exchange.
Sent from my HTC Liberty using Tapatalk

Thanks
HTML e-mail does work using Touch Down though. I've seen it myself (make sure you're using the latest version, it didn't use to work). That is HTML e-mail using Hotmail Exchange ActiveSync, not corporate Exchange.

bradavon said:
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HTML e-mail does work using Touch Down though. I've seen it myself (make sure you're using the latest version, it didn't use to work). That is HTML e-mail using Hotmail Exchange ActiveSync, not corporate Exchange.
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Huh, well I never. I guess I'll have to try it.

Microsoft Exchange Server

Hi
Before the latest update to my HTC Desire HD, I couldn't setup a hotmail account using exchange server. However, after the update, its seems to be fixed (maybe).
After setting up my hotmail account using exchange server, inbox keeps refreshing forever until I press stop/cancel or sometimes it says syncronisation key corrupt or invalid after some time.
When I open inbox again, it refreshes the whole inbox and not only retrieving new messages.
Does anyboyd have the same problem and maybe fixed it somehow? I would like to use my hotmail account using IMAP/Exchange so devices are syncronized
Hope someone have fix for the refreshing problem.

Youve got further than myself, i cant even add Hotmail exchange in the first place!
The stock 2.2 mail app works but doesnt update the widget to show how many unread emails are in the inbox.
What a pain.

PDub11 said:
Youve got further than myself, i cant even add Hotmail exchange in the first place!
The stock 2.2 mail app works but doesnt update the widget to show how many unread emails are in the inbox.
What a pain.
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If it works for you then I think you got it almost working
So with stock 2.2 adding a hotmail account using exchange server, works without any problems? And it does not keep refreshing when you open inbox folder?