Okay-- maybe I'm just imagining this-- but it seems like I've had it on a phone before--
Is there a plugin for the today screen that allows you type and send the message right from there? Not linking you to the phones messaging program-- but with an input box and everything right there on the today screen?
Like I said-- I think I've had this on a phone-- but I don't know anymore for sure-- or what it would have been-- I appreciate the help--
Thanks--
I think this is quite neat.
Maybe it starts up as a small bar on today screen that says "Messaging" just like the regular messaging today plugin, but expands when you tap it to show bigger input boxes... how come I haven't seen anything like this?
I'm very pleased with my HD2 overall, but there's one area where it comes up short in comparison to the iPhone imo: in the default zoomed out browser page view, if you click on a link (which is small, but it does briefly change colour so you know the press has registered), nothing happens - I have to zoom in (with a pinch or double press) before it will work. This is the case in both Opera and IE.
Is there by any chance a config hack to sort this? I'm new to Windows Mobile, perhaps it's a known weakness? Because the link does highlight it makes me think this is more of a software issue than a hardware one, so ought to be fixable/hackable?
Thanks,
Andy
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I'm very pleased with my HD2 overall, but there's one area where it comes up short in comparison to the iPhone imo: in the default zoomed out browser page view, if you click on a link (which is small, but it does briefly change colour so you know the press has registered), nothing happens - I have to zoom in (with a pinch or double press) before it will work. This is the case in both Opera and IE.
Is there by any chance a config hack to sort this? I'm new to Windows Mobile, perhaps it's a known weakness? Because the link does highlight it makes me think this is more of a software issue than a hardware one, so ought to be fixable/hackable?
Thanks,
Andy
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when i go to google.nl and its zoomed out, i click on the right upper side to log in/sign in, so for me this aint no issue.
Just one bump in case anybody else has any thoughts (I appreciate that this isn't an issue for the poster above, but it is for me ).
You can search the forum for a solution (it was posted dozens of times across the place). You'll need to change zoom settings to achieve what you want.
Just note that you'll lose something as well. The current behavior allows you to activate onHover events (stuff that websites do when you move your mouse over an element). With default settings you get popups/menus activated without firing the link action (an option missing in the iPhone browser).
Yes, I'm having the same problem from time to time. Sometimes I can hit tiny targets and sometimes I have to zoom right in to hit a link. I guess it's just a matter of getting used to the capacitive screen.
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when i go to google.nl and its zoomed out, i click on the right upper side to log in/sign in, so for me this aint no issue.
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Thanks, I found the registry setting (software,opera,info,az_overview_threshold), reduced it to 32 and haven't noticed any obvious side effects yet. This makes a big difference for me, especially when I set the minimum font size to medium in the menu settings.
Hi there,
I am the only one here really annoyed by the implementation of "Pinch To Zoom" inside Opera Mobile ?
First I thought that it was because of my chubby fat fingers but after several tests it definitely is an Opera Mobile issue :
I suppose that because of the text reflow after the pinch to zoom, the screen is never centered where I actually zoomed in but shifted at "miles away" and I have to scroll a lot to find the spot where I actually pinched to zoom in
This is worse and worse as you try to zoom in a lot on a small area, typically in XDA forums if trying to zoom in a lot on the tiny page links at the bottom right of the page " First < 1 2 3 ... Last >" to display them big enough to easily click them with the finger or thumb, I have to pinch to zoom, then scroll a lot to recenter them, then pinch to zoom again, then scroll again to center again, to finally be able to click the link !
I think that Opera Mobile should keep the screen centered on the spot where the pinch to zoom was executed !
Lord.Nibbler said:
Hi there,
I am the only one here really annoyed by the implementation of "Pinch To Zoom" inside Opera Mobile ?
First I thought that it was because of my chubby fat fingers but after several tests it definitely is an Opera Mobile issue :
I suppose that because of the text reflow after the pinch to zoom, the screen is never centered where I actually zoomed in but shifted at "miles away" and I have to scroll a lot to find the spot where I actually pinched to zoom in
This is worse and worse as you try to zoom in a lot on a small area, typically in XDA forums if trying to zoom in a lot on the tiny page links at the bottom right of the page " First < 1 2 3 ... Last >" to display them big enough to easily click them with the finger or thumb, I have to pinch to zoom, then scroll a lot to recenter them, then pinch to zoom again, then scroll again to center again, to finally be able to click the link !
I think that Opera Mobile should keep the screen centered on the spot where the pinch to zoom was executed !
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It is possible but awkward like you say. I find that if you put your thumb at the bottom of the screen and move up with you index finger (so move only one finger) it recentres better than moving both fingers.
I also get huge fonts (set on "Small") eg http://m.google.com/calendar
sometimes text do not reflow to fit screen.
sometimes clicking on links don't work, no response, BUT zoomin/out works.
weird shtuff
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I find that if you put your thumb at the bottom of the screen and move up with you index finger (so move only one finger) it recentres better than moving both fingers.
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I only partially agree
I also noticed that if you do it this way it would center a little bit better as you somewhat keep the screen anchored with your thumb and because you remove the risk of inadvertently scroll a little the text while pinch to zooming or when you remove your fingers off the screen.
Yet if you zoom a lot as for clicking on the damned "< 1 2 3 ... Last>" links it definitely s*cks ! You can see that the text is ok before opera re-render and reflow the text then the text run away
I certainly wouldn't call this a major problem, all it takes is scrolling a little after zooming in, and it's definitely much better than having no reflow - I tried Safari on my wife's iPhone, and it's much more painful.
I agree ...
- it's definitely better than no reflow or no pinch to zoom at all
- it's probably better than iPhone (never gone to the dark side of the force )
but
- if would be definitely better if Opera remembered the position of the center spot of pinch to zoom and then recenter itself there
For most of the links as a word or a sentence underlined or an image link it is OK ... but for the really small links as the <1 2 3 ... Last> ones below it just a pain (maybe you have less chubby fat fingers than me )
Just sticking my oar in, but from an experienced developer's point of view, what you are asking for is a COMPLETE nightmare to develop!
You're actually saying that you want Opera to remember what text is at the centre point of your pinch-to-zoom action, and then find it, after text re-flow, and center it on the page again.
This is ridiculously difficult.
Open an image in Opera and you'll see that it does actually center on where you pinch, but that's obviously because there's no text re-flow in the case of an image. (Incidentally, I mean an image, and not a page with an image on it. The URL should end with an image extension, such as .jpg, .png etc..)
I'm not saying you're all wingers or anything like that, as I too would love this to work in the way you all say you want. I'm just adding a bit of perspective.
I agree it is difficult ... yet not more that rendering the web pages or doing the text reflow itself ! Don't get me wrong, I respect the great job done by opera software ... yet they can do better
Opera is a browser coded from scratch, all the rendering is under opera software developers control. It is not like they are using some memo or third party component to do the reflow and have no control over how it draws itself. They render all the code word by word, letter by letter, pixel by pixel, where they decide to render it. So I suppose they can tag a word or link that will be the center, then do the text reflow, then center back at the right place.
Yet I would also appreciate a simple workaround : a timeout of 1 or 2 seconds to wait after pinch to zoom before the text reflow is done. This way I can zoom my link and click it before it runs away
I usually just double tap because of this. It still works best.
I am 100% in agreement with you. I just bought my wife a iPhone 3gs and I love using safari. I think its a great browser because its very smooth and easy to use. The pinch to zoom feature is very nice I can zoom exactly where I need to go with very little effort. I just received my HD2 Telstra yesterday and have to say that Opera is really bad and not as responsive. I have spent the last couple of hours trying to find a safari like browser with no luck. Lets hope that with wm7 IE gets a little closer to Apples implementation of a browser.
Lord.Nibbler said:
Hi there,
I am the only one here really annoyed by the implementation of "Pinch To Zoom" inside Opera Mobile ?
First I thought that it was because of my chubby fat fingers but after several tests it definitely is an Opera Mobile issue :
I suppose that because of the text reflow after the pinch to zoom, the screen is never centered where I actually zoomed in but shifted at "miles away" and I have to scroll a lot to find the spot where I actually pinched to zoom in
This is worse and worse as you try to zoom in a lot on a small area, typically in XDA forums if trying to zoom in a lot on the tiny page links at the bottom right of the page " First < 1 2 3 ... Last >" to display them big enough to easily click them with the finger or thumb, I have to pinch to zoom, then scroll a lot to recenter them, then pinch to zoom again, then scroll again to center again, to finally be able to click the link !
I think that Opera Mobile should keep the screen centered on the spot where the pinch to zoom was executed !
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Hi, might I suggest you give opera 10 beta a try , it does not have pinch and zoom which would be good for you also it does have other useful enhancements you might also like.
http://www.opera.com/mobile/
I use double tapping as well so I'm not that bothered with that.
What bothers me more thou is when I click on the link and then go back to the same page it never goes back to the same part of a website. Its soooooo annoying.
Lord.Nibbler said:
Hi there,
I am the only one here really annoyed by the implementation of "Pinch To Zoom" inside Opera Mobile ?
First I thought that it was because of my chubby fat fingers but after several tests it definitely is an Opera Mobile issue :
I suppose that because of the text reflow after the pinch to zoom, the screen is never centered where I actually zoomed in but shifted at "miles away" and I have to scroll a lot to find the spot where I actually pinched to zoom in
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This annoys the hell out of me, as well - as you say, it's particularly annoying when trying to zoom in on a very small link (like the page numbers of a thread on this forum, or the "jump to first unread message in this thread" link from the contents page).
To those who are advocating double-tapping "instead", that works fine for reading text, but it doesn't zoom in nearly far enough to allow you to click on a very small link. If you could double-tap several times to zoom in successive levels, that would be fine, but you can't - the second double-tap zooms out again. (Any way to change this?)
I downloaded office 2010 mobile and I believe IE was included or I just didn't see it before (New rom and New device HD2). I ran IE and what an improvement microsoft has made. The rendering using the zoom bar seems as nice as safari. The biggest issue again is pinch to zoom. My HD2 rocks but without pinch to zoom browser it pretty much makes it a pain.
Shasarak said:
This annoys the hell out of me, as well - as you say, it's particularly annoying when trying to zoom in on a very small link (like the page numbers of a thread on this forum, or the "jump to first unread message in this thread" link from the contents page).
To those who are advocating double-tapping "instead", that works fine for reading text, but it doesn't zoom in nearly far enough to allow you to click on a very small link. If you could double-tap several times to zoom in successive levels, that would be fine, but you can't - the second double-tap zooms out again. (Any way to change this?)
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is it possible to disable text re-flow?
ok so this is about the only major bug i have with opera ...you tap to zoom and it flys off and zooms in where you were not looking !!! and if you're zoomed in under the double tap and then try to pinch zoom a bit more to click the tiny "1,2,3...last" on forum links it will fly off again....im forever having to try and find where i was on a page ...soooooooooooo annoying !
how do we fix this ??
how about this for annoying....i am reading a post and the screen locks. i unlock and the browser jumps to the top agsin!
try iris 1.1.9 web browser.. its like safari with webkits support except it was bought by RIM blackberry before it even finetune itself ...non the less it works
I also hope this issue gets resolved. Pinch to zoom doesn't center where I actually zoom in.
I am new here and am ready to get into the wonderful world of rooting.
I noticed that Cyanogen was able to beat google to the multitouch browser, and most importantly, it wrapped the text when you zoomed in. In the new update, per iPhone, when you pinch-and-zoom it doesn't wrap the text for you leaving you to go side to side. This is not the end of the world, in fact far from it, but I was wondering if there was a way to get the text to wrap so I can read and just go straight down the line instead of side to side sometimes waiting for the checkered pattern to load into content.
Thanks
After you zoom in, give the screen a double-tap, and the text will wrap to the current zoom level. Pinch zoom out and it will auto wrap as you go.
Hope this helps--
Jeremy B.
But what I want to do is have the text as big as it was when I was zoomed in and have it wrap to the parameters of the screen; not having it zoom out to where it is wrapped (and where the text is too small).
A quick double tap after pinch zooming does that.
Really? So if I am zoomed in, all I have to do is double tap and it will stay at the same zoomed in level and wrap the text?
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Really? So if I am zoomed in, all I have to do is double tap and it will stay at the same zoomed in level and wrap the text?
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Yup, I think there's a 1 or 2 second span after pinching that you can double tap that will wrap instead of zooming in/out again.
It works!
I was curious about this also after the pinch and zoom was released.
This is awesome! I can't wait to test it out. Just another reason why the nexus beats the iPhone *sigh*
Start asking your questios in the correct sub-forum.
Sorry about that.