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Another Jasjar Battery Drain Problem!

Hi all, i have developed this weird problem in my jasjar and i'm sure it's some settings that need to be changed somewhere and not the battery itself. When i first got the jasjar, it gave me a good 48 hours battery backup on standard use but i lost my charger and started using usb to charge it. it's since then that my jasjar drains the battery in less than 12 hours. i have tried replacing 3 batteries but to no better effect. I remember reading something about the Li ion polymer batteries having the memory effect or something and how to reset that in the bootloader mode. if you guys could help me figure it out and fix the problem, i'd appreciate it! here's the details of my rom.
R:1.13.00
G:42.47.p8
D 2.01.06 wwe
the rom is the wm6 from jwright.
(nb: i had the same problem with my shipped wm5 rom and i thought upgrading it would help but it didnt apparently).
How long do i need to use the battery to check the drain thingy. the reseller tells me to use it for 2 weeks before judging it. i'm screwed with having no battery life to this otherwise beauty of a device! if i could get any help, it would be much appreciated. thanks in advance. (josh).

Had the same problem, been happening all week, the phone would just switch of even though it registered over 80% charge. no i am happy again because i read on the forum that you need to totally discharge the battery occationally for it to get to a full charge, it appears that there is some sort of memory effect where the battery thinks it is nearly discharged, try it, i am sure you will find that it workes.

Had the same problem, been happening all week, the phone would just switch of even though it registered over 80% charge. now i am happy again because i read on the forum that you need to totally discharge the battery occationally for it to get to a full charge, it appears that there is some sort of memory effect where the battery thinks it is nearly discharged, try it, i am sure you will find that it works.

awright...i'd try it. thanks for ur help.
mayer said:
Had the same problem, been happening all week, the phone would just switch of even though it registered over 80% charge. now i am happy again because i read on the forum that you need to totally discharge the battery occationally for it to get to a full charge, it appears that there is some sort of memory effect where the battery thinks it is nearly discharged, try it, i am sure you will find that it works.
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thanks..

I too has a similar problem but this method did not solved my prob as my jasjar switches off by itself at 40%.

I had a similar problem a couple of weeks ago as a charge would last less than 24 hours when I used to be able to last 2-3 days.
Soon sorted it when I found that the Jasjar had decided to disable the automatic switch off, now a charge is back to lasting 2-3 days.
Mike

Had my MDA PRO for 1.5 years, and never had this problem. Battery lasted for 2-4 days on average, although now I have a 3200mAH battery it lasts for well over a week on a single charge
Lithium ION and Lithium ION Polymer (the HTC Universal uses the latter) do not suffer from any "memory effect". The only battery type that does to any significant extent is Nickel Cadmium, which is rarely used these days.
It's also impossible (well, almost) to completely discharge Lithium ION Polymer batteries - internal circuitry in the battery shuts down the cells when the charge gets too low, at up to 10% charge. This is because a completely discharged L.I.P. battery becomes unstable, broken (unable to be recharged), and runs the risk of explosion or leaking in this state. So don't attempt to drain those batteries completely dry folks - it's dangerous! Letting them run down naturally in your Universal should be safe though because of the cut-out mentioned above.
Maybe the Uni just has a large batch of bad batteries? You should also check what apps you have running on it all the time, and how often you use bluetooth and wi-fi - these two REALLY drain the battery if you keep them on all the time... Also try MemMaid, this is great at cleaning up your notifications queue, which is where lots of apps leave old and obsolete entries clogging it up.

I have the same problem. I do not know where the charger is, so I am always using the USB while syncing. I also tried 2 batteries, but they both last about 12 - 14 hours. Maybe it is caused by WM6.
I did not quite get this solution:
"Soon sorted it when I found that the Jasjar had decided to disable the automatic switch off, now a charge is back to lasting 2-3 days.
Mike"
What is the solution?

2 421....:
sorry for lang. the above understands(i hope)
nastavenia(settings)/napajeni(power)/rozsireni(advanced) tam zaskrtnes co xces a nastavis casy. ak pouzivas phonealarm musis aj tam. pozri si aj podsvirtenie(backlight).
btw aj had the same prob. appeared after 6mnth. i bought new battery. btw here is several threads with same prob. try 2 look for solutions there(imho its only one-new batt.)

I feel like I'm walking on eggs...I bought my Jasjar used on eBay just over a year ago, still the original battery. I almost never use the 110v charger, always a USB conection with my Mac, often recharging at 55-75%. I just intentionally ran down my battery to 18% (got warnings to recharge), and recharge via USB/Mac again. It took me almost 4 days to get to 18%, and Bluetooth is constantly on for ready use with my earpiece.
Curious: are the problems with original or replacement batteries? Cheers,

Update to Radio 115 or 114

It's worth taking into consideration that when flashing, you really need to have a full battery. There are reports of batteries starting this kind of behaviour after user has flashed with drained battery, then causes battery charge issues until next reflash.

IMHO even if u charge with a full charged battery still u get a prob so i think its a common issue with the jasjar and its power managment software itself by default as lot of people with diffrent ROMs are complaining about it.

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well, folks, i tried all these gimmicks but not to any definite changes ... i guess i need to consult the service center guys at last...i didn't want to do that but i guess i need to. i'm sure it's not my battery as i've replaced 3 of them...i dont kno what else to do!!! thanks for ur posts tho as i get to try diff things to check if ma battery is doing ok...keep postin...thanks...
josh.

how 2 discharge a battery >>>>>

problem with battery?
I have the same problem, it firs appear on original battery when charge was 40-50% so I have bought the same battery model (1620mAh). But it doesn't help. Now I,m using the 3200mAh battery and it doesn't help as well. The thing is that XDA switch off it self always on deferent charge level (sometimes is on 20%, 45% ar 80%...so is very difficult predict when it happen again). And one more thing...when it switch-off and I try to switch-on back, I can't (keep switching off), only slolution is put on charger!!!
I have downloaded the service manual (I think called "confidential") and it mentioned that it could be a problem with main board (so its HW problem). So can anybody tell me is a problem with bat or MB? (replacing the MB is fcjfdj$#ing expansive). Thanx.

well if your XDA does not switch on until you start charging it that's a clear indication that your battery is empty. I have the same with my faulty battery. Replaced it by a working one and it's fixed. Something is definately messed up with the charging circuit or the batteries though. They are not supposed to die so easily.

SpyderTracks said:
It's worth taking into consideration that when flashing, you really need to have a full battery. There are reports of batteries starting this kind of behaviour after user has flashed with drained battery, then causes battery charge issues until next reflash.
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The first time I flashed the PDA I ruined my battery. This time I thought I'd be smart and I put in the old battery while flashing. After flashing I put back the new battery and now that one is broken too! It wasn't even in the PDA when I flashed it. How bizarre is that?
I have to admit I did not fully charge that new battery before flashing, but I figured it would be safe since it wasn;t in while flashing. The battery worked fine the day before I flashed my phone (got the "charge now or save your work" message), but after the flashing and putting it in, it just crashes at around 30% or 40%. The usual battery misery.
Maybe I should try fully charging it and then flashing again. Trouble would be how to get it fully charged though. I always felt charging cuts off early on the "broken" batteries (pull the charge plug and stick it back and it charges for a while again).

I managed to restore my battery to good health by completely discharging it in bootloader mode.
First I completely charged it. When the led went green I pulled the shcarge cable and connected it back again. After doing this a few times it doesn't stay orange so long and then I stopped and left the cable disconnected.
I reset the phone (on full battery) and then I set the unit to boatloader and waited for it to completely discharge. I reset the phone again (on empty battery) and low and behold my trusty "charge now or lose data" warning came back.
BTW I reset the PDA hoping maybe it would store the power levels. I remember that trick from my Palm days where sometimes you had to reset a PDA on full battery to calibrate it.
I charged it back to full capacity and started using the phone as normal. When the battery was empty I got no crash but a friendly warning telling me my battery was going low. Phew.
Will try the same with my other troubled battery over the weekend.

I have the same Issue.But , I think it's about Rom.
and I'm try a lot of ROM version ,only one Version canbe use more than 3 day.
I can't find any reason ,.
discharge in bootloader ,I do it ,But battiery is same time for used.

[problem] battery weakness

Dear android developers
2 days ago i had a problem with a rom, so i had to take out the battery. When i placed the battery back in the problem was solved. Unfortuanetly something happend afterwards and now my battery is really weak its been 8 hours since i last charged the phone now it is %16 Ive tried changing roms. I even downloaded cm7 which was pretty good on battery drain, now its really weak hope you guys can help me.
Thanks in advance

try draining the battery till the phone shuts down

Turn off the phone, try to fully charge, to green LED lights up, then go to ClockworkMod recovery, advanced, and select wipe battery stats.
Maybe this help u
greets from poland

clean the contacts on the battery, blow out the compartment with canned air. sounds like a bad connection to the battery.
fyi the led turns green at 90% charge.
and i need more data than its weak.
screen shots of usage after 8hrs would rock.

If phone are turned off, orange change to green at 100% of battery.
If android are running, green LED turns on at 95% battery (for me, AndroidRev 2.3.5 sense 3.0)

tugonu said:
Dear android developers
2 days ago i had a problem with a rom, so i had to take out the battery. When i placed the battery back in the problem was solved. Unfortuanetly something happend afterwards and now my battery is really weak its been 8 hours since i last charged the phone now it is %16 Ive tried changing roms. I even downloaded cm7 which was pretty good on battery drain, now its really weak hope you guys can help me.
Thanks in advance
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You might have messed up your battery with the pull somehow, if not just let it charge for a long time and see where you are at from there.

Drain the battery in normal use until it shuts off, then go to bootloader and drain the battery until you can't access the bootloader, then do a full charge of the battery.

Necus 4 battery issue

Hello,
Im having so much problem from my nexus4 phone .
Phone gets turned off suddenly even when I charge it full and then i need to connect to charger and turn it on then battery will be 50percent low from 95percent.
Also when ever phone battery is low my network drops completely. And then reconnects to netowk and then again disconnects continues until I plug in.
It lasts hardly few hours.
I did spin test and battery is also fine.
I also formatted,installed official ROM but nothing helps .
I used battery stats and all to find if any app is spoiling it. But no apps are spoiling my battery.
Please help
Thank you.

Although the spin test was fine, I do believe that this is still a battery issue. I would recommend purchasing a new OEM battery and installing that, and then flashing a completely stock ROM using fastboot, then testing.

Just be careful when you take it apart. My N4 battery was behaving really badly, not holding a charge for very long, shutting down even though the indicator said 30% remaining, etc.
Pulled off the (freshly cracked) back cover, and I had a case of FBS (fat battery syndrome). Seems as though the thing was on its last legs. You should definitely take some time to research the relevant safety precautions you should take (I should have looked this up, but didn't).
I ended up removing it and replacing it with an OEM battery I ordered from Amazon, the percentage calibration still isn't the most accurate, however it holds a significantly better charge now.

Are we both having the same issue?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/nexus-4-off-unplugged-charger-t3132425

Note 4 battery, signal and performance problem.

I've been having this strange problem these last few weeks. It happens in different ways.
1. Bellow 25% phone randomly shuts off then when i reboot its 0% battery.
2. Bellow 25% at random % I lose phone signal then the phone starts to lag and capacitive keys don't work then the phone shuts off and when i power it on its at 0%.
3. Phone gets to 15% i plug it in to charge, it doesn't charge but discharges to 0% then shuts off and after that it charges.
If i remove the battery then put it back in after it says 0% it may show 30%/20/15/13/25/30 etc. Sometime it doesn't charge after 87% or 92%. Is it the battery or is something else at fault? Also i can't get more then 2h15m screen time whatever i do and wifi drain is 30% in gsam.

Earlier I had same problemes on my Note 1 and it was because of my battery. Probably your problemes are becuse of your battery too.

Ok I will try a new battery.

I have exactly the same problem!!!!
Like exactly.
However I'd like to add some things:
1. Sometimes the radio signal for mobile starts randomly cutting in and out. It will be full bars, LTE, then nothing, no signal symbol. Then Full bars again, then no signal. In 1 minute revolutions. I am not physically moving during this time.
2. Even at near full battery the phone will get super laggy, stutter, and then finally crash. Once it reboots the battery will be 40% or something. Not super low but lower.
3. The camera seems to have a huge effect as well. I will open the camera, take a picture, and the picture won't save...it will just start to freeze the phone up until I have to pull the battery or it reboots on its own.
I also have a new battery coming in the mail.
However I should note that I am Note 4 910-H using a 910-C variant Custom ROM.
I was worried it was the special Modem I flashed to make the C variant ROM work on my H variant phone that was causing the problem.
Great, but unfortunate to see someone else having this issue too.
Ill post results of the new battery here.
Btw, ive been able to resurrect it from a very low state of charge (3% etc). The only way to do this is to use my fast charger. The fast charger is the only thing that will save it. Even then it takes ages to charge and gets white hot while it does. Its like the fast charger is battling for charge against some unknown force.

Post if you remember when you get your new battery. Hope that fixes it for you.

hi
my note 4 910c become very hot when i use the internet , can i change the modem from lower android like 4.2 to android 6 ? is it work ?

I have exactly the same problem and please if any1 finds any solution just share it here... I tried almost everything but not a new battery.
Battery Calibration By All The Ways, Battery Quick Start via *#0228#, Many Custom ROMs, Many Custom Kernels and Many Stock ROMs and the problem still the same even after I cleanly installed stock 6.0.1 ... Any help please.
Thanks in advance.

New Battery fixed 99% of my problems.
However the phone still randomly freezes and disconnects from cell service.
I think its the modem driver. Freezing might also be due to sd card.

Random turn off

Hi,
I have a Note 4 SM-N910C variant that is almost 3 years old.
Starting from 5 months ago the battery level would start dropping fast from 35% to 0% in like 2-3min after which the phone would turn off. If i took out the battery and insert it again, start the phone again it would show around 30% battery level. After a while it would start doing the same fast drops in battery level and so on.
I got a new battery, not OEM and now it doesnst do what i was facing above but it randomly turns off no matter if im doing something with heavy or no load on the device.
The turning off usually happens after the device goes bellow 50% battery level.
How can i test if all the components are ok other than the battery which seems to be faulty in my opinion.
I did order a new original OEM battery but it will take time to get to me.
I want to find out if the rest of the components are functioning without faults so i can decide whether i should get a new phone or not.
Please assist.

New battery

I know its not the same behavior, I have 2 note's. Mine is only a couple of months old while the one from my wife is build in 05/15. Her phone when we just received it would refuse to charge above 96%. Sure the phone would say 100% but as soon as you unplugged the charger it would drop straight to 96%. It did this on 3 different batteries, exactly the same behavior. All these batteries are OEM. When you plug it in it would go rapidly to 100%..
Anyway, I wiped the cache on that phone and since this it charges normally.
Been comparing the battery drain and both phones are using around 6 to 8% per night while on stby with wifi on.
Just try this, it may help you!

Thanks for the replies.
I did try wiping the cache and even did a factory reset.
I rooted the phone 2 days ago to try and recalibrate the battery but i didn't help.
I think the situation isn't degrading cause from today the phone is constantly hot and the cpu is running at around 48 celsius with 7-8% load.
I'll see what happens when the new battery arrives, maybe the phone is heating up cause of this maybe not. It's even eating the battery from 100% to 0 in 2h with no real load on the phone.
Do you guys think a benchmark program will force it to thermal shutdown if this is the issue.
I'm still trying to find out if only the battery is faulty or i have a dying phone.

To me you have 2 problems...a faulty battery and a (new) software problem on your phone.
Constant being warm with a cpu load tells me something on your phone is running all the time consuming your battery and causing your phone to heat up, unless it behaved the same before the factory reset and rooting?
You are rooted so try Wakelock detector for root to see which app (if any) is causing your phone to behave like this.

I will try wakelock to do its thing during the time i sleep. But if that doesnt help ill try a custom rom. Im not gonna factory restore and go back to stock rom. Gonna move away from that and see what happens.