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installed FroyoStone Series and finally able to use the phone

so after about a week of fooking around with winmo i almost put it back up for sale on craigslist to send it back where it came from.
could not deal with this sht anymore( freezing,overheating, battery drain in standby, sms lagging, alarm not working and tonns more annoying issues)
2 different roms( i wanted to keep stock look and features, since most of cooked roms come with their own theme)
flashed chunky rom (lite version) with 12.50 radio havent tested it alone
then loaded up FroyoStone Series - Version 1 (07-Aug-2010) android rom
loaded jmz android dual boot app.
and so far it feels like im using a totally different phone.
one thing i regret is not doing it earlier.
everything seems to be working great,i definitely am able to use this phone more than i ever did with windows loaded on it.
loaded bunch of apps to see and they all work with no problems. even when an app gives an error it is eliminated with quickness.
everything is fast
android market is ridiculous packed with all kinds of sht(how fast it filled up with apps is insane)
alot of free ones to choose from
oh and almost forgot, the apps work without crashing the system.
i ve been on this phone for last 2 hours trying to figure out the android interface and its not even warm to touch as opposed to windows even in standby its very hot.
very sad that even in its early stage its much more usable than original OS
is there a WINMO HATER thread on xda btw?
beeing a new android user there are few things i have question about.
1 is there an X button to shut down apps like windows?
because most of the apps dont even have X button in app menu.
2 why does it try to crop the wallpaper even when its exact size to fit the screen?
3 Green LED blinks, THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE. This is a diagnostic feature to see if the phone has crashed or not.
mine is not on( it was on for a while) but its still functioning, is it supposed to blink when crashed or when working normally?
4 images in general seem to be reendered with much less quality than on windows boot.
theres also an option to install it with sense, is sense responsible for processing those highrez images or is it winmo?
5 i installed the SD card auto mount app. os that good or bad app to have?
would that interfere with anything?

why don't you sell the phone on craigslist and go buy you a samsung galaxy s?

why dont you buy one for me then.
i can sell the HD2 to you if u like. so you can have a backup...
HATER still defending the crippled OS abandoned by microsoft.
if it wasnt for XDA and few other forums winmo would fall on its face long time ago.
microsoft should thank you guys for keeping their name in mobile business, because without tweakers there would be no one to use it.
galaxy screen is smaller btw and its a samsung and it doesnt have flash and its piano finish and it resembles iphone
i would go for amoled screen tho that thing is super crispy...
see now i forgot what i was gonna ask because of you.

There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Psygnosis84 said:
There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Totally agree with you....winmo is the best os only if one knows how to use it properly.
Yea its not so user friendly but if you want to modify an os winmo would be on the top of the list!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA app on froyo mattc 1.5

Psygnosis84 said:
There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
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/agreed.... man the number 'these' kinda threads are increasing at an alarming rate.

fuzzysig said:
1 is there an X button to shut down apps like windows?
because most of the apps dont even have X button in app menu.
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First, X'ing out of a program in WM does not shut it down...it keeps running in the background. Some programs have built in shut down options, but most of the time you have to use a task manager.
Likewise, in Android, as far as I know, pressing the home key lets you exit a app but it keep running in the background unless you shut it down with an app killer. Some apps have built-in shutdown options.

Ok guys lets not turn this into a my OS is better then yours is thread. Both of them have their pluses and negs, while I use use WM for everything work related I also use Android for messing around and games so to me each has its place.

Why is this thread even here this should be in general questions...
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It is here because we do not have an android general forum set up yet, But the great joshkoss has been working on trying to get it set up.

alarming is the fact that winmo is installed onto consumer phones that are meant for general public
not everyone wants to learn how to edit their registry to make a feature work
some people actually want to use the phone once in a while u know...
but in windows you can enable a program to be terminated by holding the x button

fuzzysig said:
alarming is the fact that winmo is installed onto consumer phones that are meant for general public
not everyone wants to learn how to edit their registry to make a feature work
some people actually want to use the phone once in a while u know...
but in windows you can enable a program to be terminated by holding the x button
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I agree with you to a degree. Winmo is better for users that know (and enjoy) how to tweak their devices (which usually isnt the average user) however it is still perfectly usable with no tweaks applied (albeit not as good as when they are). You are exagerating when you say that the phone is unuseable without tweaks because i used mine for a few weeks with no tweaks whatsoever and i am sure many others here did too and the phone was fully functional. Just because you prefer android to winmo dosent make it any better (for the record i prefer android too)
For the answer to youe x button question see here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755504

I was never an android fan. I never used Android until yesterday. Nd even with this beta build is more stable and easier to use than winmo. First time sinnce I got this phone I didnt have to soft reset the phone for almost a day.

Psygnosis84 said:
There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
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hardik119 said:
Totally agree with you....winmo is the best os only if one knows how to use it properly.
Yea its not so user friendly but if you want to modify an os winmo would be on the top of the list!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA app on froyo mattc 1.5
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Not to sound funny but the 2 above posts are stating winmo is so good, yet your replies are sent from android ports??

So I've used winmo for a bit, and when I do finally (hopefully) flash android onto my phones nand, I don't even want to loose winmo, I really would like to keep winmo as well because it is a decent OS, not as terrible as many make it sound, it is usable for sure.
However, lets not kid ourselves, it's no match for android. Winmo is an aging OS, and it makes that obvious. Android just feels so seamless and so optimized for mobile devices.

kinda what i was trying to say but with many more words
anyone still use DOS?
but i was hoping to get more answers related to android questions i had and not to bring about another thread with winmo vs android.
theres no doubt android is better suited for mobile, although windows has the ability to copy delete and do many more low level operations from the phone, thats why im thinking abotu keeping this phone as well and hope that we can make a true dual boot phone so i can run a clean android boot and clean winmo boot.

[Q] HTC Desire-Z boot speed

I dunno if you've seen it but it starts in about the time it takes my legend to turn the screen on. Anyhoo
Do we reckon it would be possible to put this kind of thing on other phones (Namely our Legend)? It's called HTC Fast boot; so would it be possible to, when they're released, port the stuff in the ROM that does this? Or not? Or anything even close?

It's very early to tell, but if they'll release to other phones (like Desire) there's a very very good chance it's possible.

For what it's worth I don't think the boot time for our Legends is bad at all. I'm satisfied with it.

Yeah, but faster is (nearly) always better

Watch second video, you can see how fast is boot speed! F*** yeah . This is what we need for legend!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/htc-desire-z-hands-on/

qzem said:
Watch second video, you can see how fast is boot speed! F*** yeah . This is what we need for legend!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/htc-desire-z-hands-on/
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My only worry is that there's some stuff going on there that's not ROM related. Maybe bootloader tinkering; who knows?

From CoolSmartPhone.com (note the last couple of sentences):
Oh, and that boot time is a whole lot quicker too according to HTC. We did give this a test after being told that the device could turn back on in "less than 10 seconds". We tested it and it actually did it in less than 5 seconds, but it seems that there's some clever "suspend" technology going on when you tell the devices to power off from the GUI as, when we popped the battery out to try a complete "cold boot" it took the normal amount of time. We're guessing that this will still be brilliant though, especially if you've had the phone powered off whilst asleep or during a flight.
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Yea.. I had a feeling that it was likely to be a suspend. This does, however, make it more likely to be ported to other phones...

No. Not. At. All.

owenw said:
No. Not. At. All.
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What's that in reference to?

c_man said:
For what it's worth I don't think the boot time for our Legends is bad at all. I'm satisfied with it.
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For what it's worth, I played on the Desire HD (and Z) last night as I went along to the HTC event. The boot speed IS very impressive, but it's a nice to have, not a "need to have".
Some people were overly impressed with the boot speed, some not impressed at all. Afterall, there is more to a phone that how fast it manages to boot up .

[Q][REQ]WP7 HD2 Battery Indicator ( percentage etc..)

Any one knows application that shows battery percentage on mainscreen (homescreen), or other battery info.. ? Or this is not developed yet.?
Thanks in advance
Laynee

That's what i really want it. i little thing but very helpful

I was looking for the same thing but from the reading I've done on it, Microsoft has not included an API for this function yet in wp7, that's why no apps exist to do this just yet.

drewestate said:
I was looking for the same thing but from the reading I've done on it, Microsoft has not included an API for this function yet in wp7, that's why no apps exist to do this just yet.
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sadly thats the case.

Yeah! i need it too!

Hi. In case you didn't you know, ....if you swipe finger from top of home screen down, it shows your status. Hope this helps..

thinklogic said:
Hi. In case you didn't you know, ....if you swipe finger from top of home screen down, it shows your status. Hope this helps..
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Read the thread title and OP, we're after percentage, not an icon as it's not accurate enough

I have on my HD2 WP7 full with activation key blablabla...but all i want to say about this O.S. that is SUCKS...I love my phone with Android...I miss that battery percentage, Current Widget and alot of apps games..i'm going back to android...!

myhaitza15 said:
I have on my HD2 WP7 full with activation key blablabla...but all i want to say about this O.S. that is SUCKS...I love my phone with Android...I miss that battery percentage, Current Widget and alot of apps games..i'm going back to android...!
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I did the same went back to a custom rom with android loading from sd card. I've done the CWM and it ran very good but I just prefer the ability to go back to win mob if I ever need to.
for me the guys done a great job on this (beta) build which is awesome but it seems very drab and plain compared to all the other builds that this great phone can have on it.

karlfergy said:
I did the same went back to a custom rom with android loading from sd card. I've done the CWM and it ran very good but I just prefer the ability to go back to win mob if I ever need to.
for me the guys done a great job on this (beta) build which is awesome but it seems very drab and plain compared to all the other builds that this great phone can have on it.
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isn't it off topic?
u want to share? use facebook please.

wholly1 said:
isn't it off topic?
u want to share? use facebook please.
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Even if it was an off-topic WP7 thread, it would still go in Q&A and General.
Thread moved.

wholly1 said:
isn't it off topic?
u want to share? use facebook please.
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QFE, we should all go to the Android forum to say how it is bloated (for me at least) and how much WP7 beats it to the ground.
But we won't, will we, we are gentlemen!

myhaitza15 said:
I have on my HD2 WP7 full with activation key blablabla...but all i want to say about this O.S. that is SUCKS...I love my phone with Android...I miss that battery percentage, Current Widget and alot of apps games..i'm going back to android...!
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i guess its all about personal preference. i have WP7 on my HD2. simply put its clean,fast and amazing. battery consumption seems to be very good. though android is still the best in terms of flexibility/ease of use. i wouldn't sacrifice the OS for a mere battery percentage.

Install HTC Battery Tool and it will tell you the exact remaining battery along with all info you may ever want to know about your battery and much more

[Q] Light on buttons

Is it possbile to do some reg tweaks to get the lights on the buttons working? The lights only come on when I press them...

When else would you want/need them to come on? Surely having them lit all the time would make battery drain even more of an issue than it currently is.

Beany69 said:
When else would you want/need them to come on?
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when its dark

Beany69 said:
When else would you want/need them to come on? Surely having them lit all the time would make battery drain even more of an issue than it currently is.
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In the dark for example... I can't, like alle other humans, see very good when it's dark....

yes but your phone doesnt know when its dark and you want the lighs on and when its in your pocket or draw, battery drain would not be helped obviously but i doubt it would make a huge difference

dazza9075 said:
yes but your phone doesnt know when its dark and you want the lighs on and when its in your pocket or draw, battery drain would not be helped obviously but i doubt it would make a huge difference
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It's pretty normal that the lights on the buttons of your phone are on when you use it, that's what I want, but if it's not possible so be it...

Beany69 said:
When else would you want/need them to come on? Surely having them lit all the time would make battery drain even more of an issue than it currently is.
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They should be on whenever the screen is on, surely. Having them only on while you're actually pressing a button is, of course, pretty useless. From what I've read, this is a known issue with the current HD2 WP7 ROM, right?
Dingo

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They should be on whenever the screen is on, surely. Having them only on while you're actually pressing a button is, of course, pretty useless. From what I've read, this is a known issue with the current HD2 WP7 ROM, right?
Dingo
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True that! I think it is a known issue, but when I was searching for threads in the forum I couldn't find any... Hope there will be a solution for this sometime in future ROM releases

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True that! I think it is a known issue, but when I was searching for threads in the forum I couldn't find any... Hope there will be a solution for this sometime in future ROM releases
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Yes, people, this is a known issue. On HD7, for exemple, when you press a button, the light remains for 10 seconds. On WinMo 6.5 and Android for HD2 this also happens, but not on WP7... I'm not sure if it will be fixed, as well with the camera, in future releases, just because of the drivers... but we can wait to see it

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Yes, people, this is a known issue. On HD7, for exemple, when you press a button, the light remains for 10 seconds. On WinMo 6.5 and Android for HD2 this also happens, but not on WP7... I'm not sure if it will be fixed, as well with the camera, in future releases, just because of the drivers... but we can wait to see it
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agreed, personally i doubt very much that any of the hardware "bugs" the HD2 running WP7 has will ever be fixed, but at the very least my HD2 has given me the option to try many different OSs, i now know what i want on a future phone, and since the issues dont really bother me too much ill stick with the HD2 until there is a new "king of phones" available.

any animation recommendations?

I personally don't like the ICS build 6 animation. can someone recommend a good boot animation [800x480], preferably one that has a black background to save battery.

I read that if you just delete/rename the bootanimation.zip in system/media it will replace it with some default android animation. Haven't tried it myself yet so IDK.

preferably one that has a black background to save battery
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Wow how many times a day are you rebooting your phone?
I have ICS 6.1 running [using the kernel that came with it] and from when i wake up to when i get home i still have plenty of battery left [anywhere from 45-25% left] and that is usually 16-20 hours. I am not a HEAVY user but i use it a lot for emails.
I don't have any hard facts but the amount of battery saved with having a color background on a boot animation vs a black one HAS to be miniscule. I would even wage to argue it is unmeasurable.
But to answer your question anyway:
There is a WHOLE thread on boot animations with previews and directions
here is a link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053250
I hope this helps you

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I have ICS 6.1 running
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?????? Where is build 6 for the Fascinate????

ZeroLozen said:
?????? Where is build 6 for the Fascinate????
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/16630-romicsiml74k-teamhacksungs-ics-port-for-fascinate-build-61-0201/
However you might want to go with 6 and not 6.1 cuz I heard it introduced more bugs..
It's a very good ROM (build 6)

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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/16630-romicsiml74k-teamhacksungs-ics-port-for-fascinate-build-61-0201/
However you might want to go with 6 and not 6.1 cuz I heard it introduced more bugs..
It's a very good ROM (build 6)
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Agreed, The sensor is 100% better in 6.1 but some times i loose my network and have to toggle airplane mode. Which is way more annoying than the prox sensor. i was debating on going back to 6 as well.

xwhofarted said:
Agreed, The sensor is 100% better in 6.1 but some times i loose my network and have to toggle airplane mode. Which is way more annoying than the prox sensor. i was debating on going back to 6 as well.
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6.0 worth flashing over 5???

ZeroLozen said:
6.0 worth flashing over 5???
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Not 100% positive but I would bet it has many bug fixes and better stability.
xwhofarted said:
Wow how many times a day are you rebooting your phone?
I have ICS 6.1 running [using the kernel that came with it] and from when i wake up to when i get home i still have plenty of battery left [anywhere from 45-25% left] and that is usually 16-20 hours. I am not a HEAVY user but i use it a lot for emails.
I don't have any hard facts but the amount of battery saved with having a color background on a boot animation vs a black one HAS to be miniscule. I would even wage to argue it is unmeasurable.
But to answer your question anyway:
There is a WHOLE thread on boot animations with previews and directions
here is a link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053250
I hope this helps you
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My battery seems to drain pretty fast sometimes, so every little bit helps.
Also, battery is not the only concern. I like to have a black-based boot animation for when I boot my phone at night, I do not want it screaming at my eyes. I downloaded some animations from your link, not sure if they are compatible though, I haven't gotten around to installing/inspecting the contents of them yet.
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I read that if you just delete/rename the bootanimation.zip in system/media it will replace it with some default android animation. Haven't tried it myself yet so IDK.
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Wow! Yes, it worked. I now have a black based boot animation that says "Android" [animated]. +Thanks!