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Hi all, has anyone been able to run the google maps "my location" service on a HTC Universal using the GSM triangulation? If it works for you, please post the windows-mobile version, country and provider. It's not working for me (WM 6.1, O2 Germany, tried with UMTS and GSM.) WLAN-based locator is working. Thx for feedback!
GSM based locator shouldn't work on Uni because of the ril driver it has now.
If someone managed to patch it...
my location with google maps works for me (gsm, umts)
my location with the hero ui doesnt work (gsm, umts)
o2 germany
htc touch diamond 2
no difference between all roms i've tried with and without hero ui
emx_o said:
my location with google maps works for me (gsm, umts)
my location with the hero ui doesnt work (gsm, umts)
o2 germany
htc touch diamond 2
no difference between all roms i've tried with and without hero ui
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I think you are in the wrong forum, my friend. Are we talking about Universal (which is the name of the device, not the general forum for all devices) here??? With Universal it doesn't work. My location works for me on my Elf, but we are not talking about Elf, right?
It did work for me sometimes... But all i get now is your current location is temporarily unavailable....( using version 3.2.1).. If i get it working again i'll post some screenshots...
I don't think the radio gives back transmitter location (codes), so it is impossible to work on Uni. That is unless it's the ril.dll (maybe a particular ROM was able to extract the information from the radio?).
I've only ever got it working with my external GPS.
ok got it working currently i'm using tomals 8.9 rom and google map 3.2.1 and i can get my location...
see attached screenshots ...
google maps on orange
rajivshahi, how did you manage that? doesn't work for me
Perhaps it's the operator that does it.
I'm with Orange, and if I go to Orange Local it tells me where I am... (see piccy1)
Pity Google Maps doesn't do the same for me.
raji.. as you have it working, can I ask request:
can you run the fieldtest program (attached) and see what you get for NCell Info on GSM? (see piccy2)
Not working for me. The same Tomal 8.9 (128Mb) and Google Maps version.
Just tested now again and it still works..
When using wifi it shows my location but while using activesync it doesn't mostly i use wifi here.......
@ jonny
nothing in ncell info see folllowing pic..
Thanks Raji.., ok how does Google Maps operate then? I thought they used Cell ID. It can't be as complex as knowing your router location (have you tried over GPRS?). The only other thing is that they are in cahoots with the operator (oh, I just scared myself, that sounds too much like Matrix!)
ok,that's scary. it works
I'm using xplode's wm6.5 ROM, connected to my router by WiFi, using GoogleMaps (same v. as you)... and it's nearly pinpointed my location!
however, it doesn't work over GPRS, so back to square 1, I'm sorry.
-Jonny- said:
ok,that's scary. it works
I'm using xplode's wm6.5 ROM, connected to my router by WiFi, using GoogleMaps (same v. as you)... and it's nearly pinpointed my location!
however, it doesn't work over GPRS, so back to square 1, I'm sorry.
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Well i always thought it was issue with the rom, but today when i tried it without wifi it didn't work so i tried again on wifi and it did work.. i repeated the process several times to come to conclusion that google map uses the router to get the location... that's pretty strange... well hope for some words from the masters about this new finding.....
I just got a new phone (but Im still keeping my g1) so I inserted an a brand new unregistered sim card in my g1, so I dont get the "no sim inserted icon but I don't think this matters" , and I have it connect to the internet via wifi and I decide to turn on my gps and what do you know, it works.
I go google maps and and select "my location" and it works. It was able to find my location. Then I try copilot and that works too... wich means I can continue to use my g1 as a gps device since copilot has its maps preloaded.
Maybe you knew about it already but this is news to me. I just hope people will get some use out of this.
P.S
I also figured out that I cant text people through google voice (App) using wifi (and no active sim card) although this was a little more obvious of a discovery. I guess this is good for people who have their line cut off or for people like me who still want the g1 as a second phone.
I don't understand what's the big deal about GPS working without SIM. Why wouldn't it? Or maybe you're mixing up GPS and GPRS?
Karolis said:
I don't understand what's the big deal about GPS working without SIM. Why wouldn't it? Or maybe you're mixing up GPS and GPRS?
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Yeah same, GPS only relies on data to grab the map tiles, which you're recieving through WiFi...
I have a blackstone and it was originally on the Orange network (UK) I now have it unlocked from orange and have a T-mobile uk sim in there.
I put tomtom sat nav on and havent done much else to it.
For some reason I cant use the tomtom app as it says no gps device, any idea whats going on, or how I fix this. I follew the tom tom installation correctly but it just doesnt pick up any satellites up.
Another thing is my MMS setting are out of wack completely, any idea how I get these fixed, t mobile are unable to help as they dont sell the phone through them.
Anyone got their mms worksing through t mobile uk?
any help would be appreciated
Yes..you have find a big bug in the new rom that you have installed...i think that you have burn the GPS antenna, or the second possibility is that you have to install a new Antenna software..i've a original rom and all is perfect.!!
i havent installed another rom, its the original one that was on the phone, so i couldnt have burnt anything out. i haveng modded the phone in any way just to confirm
I'd try this for the MMS settings:
Tmobile Settings by Email
For the TomTom problem, it is just a case of TomTom not displaying any Satellites, but still getting your location (the screen changes colour and shows your location, to indicate a satellite lock) or does it never give a fix.
Not to insult as I don't know your level of experience with GPS, but try it outside on a clear (not very heavy cloud) day, leaving it stationary for several (upto five I'd say) minutes, and see if it gets a fix?
thansk for the reply,
but the t-mobile link odesnt work as my phone isnt listed there and I cant move forward without selecting one.
The tom tom screen is grey as if it doesnt have any satellites connected to it, I have tried it on a clear day and same no luck.
In the connections tab under where you can switch the bluetooth, wifi etc on, does the data connection also have to be switched on, of is the data connection for something else?
For tomtom:
Go to settings/AGPS settings and make sure it is turned off - this used to stop tomtom working for me until I updated my ROM.
In tomtom, make sure you've selected 'Other NMEA GPS receiver' and COM4 (I found the baud rate does not matter and have it set to the highest value.
thanks all working now, great.
just on a general note, what costs are incurred when we use this, is it free for people with data plans etc
digo21 said:
thanks all working now, great.
just on a general note, what costs are incurred when we use this, is it free for people with data plans etc
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GPS does not cost anything as you are receiving signals from GPS satellites. I don't think you even need a SIM in your phone to use it.
AGPS is data so will come out of your data plan if you have one.
digo21 said:
I have a blackstone and it was originally on the Orange network (UK) I now have it unlocked from orange and have a T-mobile uk sim in there.
I put tomtom sat nav on and havent done much else to it.
For some reason I cant use the tomtom app as it says no gps device, any idea whats going on, or how I fix this. I follew the tom tom installation correctly but it just doesnt pick up any satellites up.
Another thing is my MMS setting are out of wack completely, any idea how I get these fixed, t mobile are unable to help as they dont sell the phone through them.
Anyone got their mms worksing through t mobile uk?
any help would be appreciated
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Have you tic the box in the GPS tab (see in the settings) for give the permission to the O.S for taking automatically the control of signal.?
Dear forum users,
I'm a happy user WM6.5 with TF3D 2.1. The weather at my location is updated nicely, however there's 1 issue I don't understand:
When I look at my home screen it still says 'My Location' instead of the city name where I live in (Ho Chi Minh city)...this is different from many screenshot I've seen on this forum where weather forecast city names are displayed nicely on home screen.
does anyone have an idea how I could fix this?
Thanks in advance for any ideas/support.
Best regards,
Nghia
Hi there,
I'm having exactly the same problem. The weather tab just stays at 'My location', as does the home tab. I've manually added the city I live in to display the weather, but I'd like to know how to get the phone to automatically detect it. Any help?
I had this problem too and tried lots of fixes I read about here and none of them worked. Then I tried going into my phone settings and changing my phone from "auto" in the Network field to "manual" and then selecting T-Mobile. I'm thinking it was finding AT&T and not being able to determine my location.
Settings>Personal>Phone>Network>Network Selection
After doing this and restarting the phone (airplane mode on/off) it detected "My Location" on the weather tab and then on the clock. I'm in SW Florida and am new to T-mo so i don't know if this will have any undesirable effects.
Not sure if this will affect my roaming, but I don't really roam much so I should be ok. See if it works for you guys.
Hi cocytan,
Could you tell me how to add city manually? My city is not listed in weather list of my phone. I have att, touch2 came from tmo unlock. When I try to update, it said something about not able to connect to dns and web2go.
Thanks.
Same problem here with Blackstone ROM
RUU_Dutty's_HD_WM6.5_5.2.23016.5.0.3_Leo_R5.zip
Update Radio to
HD_Blackstone_Radio_1.14.25.24
Can't get My Location to work...
Did you guys try my tip of manually selecting your mobile carrier in settings>phone>network and set it to manual and then select your carrier? I tried everything before this, and it's worked on every ROM I tried it on.
You can always set it back to automatic if it doesn't work or impacts your roaming.
I'm just curious if others see this fix working, then maybe we can collectively figure out why it's happening to us (is it location, carriers, ROM versions, etc.)
-Joel
Hi a042349,
manually selecting the carrier didn't work for me.
But I read somewhere else that it could work when you enable Wifi.
Doesn't need to be connected, just enabling should do the trick.
And it worked for me!
I tried the wifi trick and it didn't work for me. All my testing was done at my house with only my wifi in range (I live in the country) and it didn't matter if I was using it or not - no MyLocation data until I manually selected T-Mobile.
I'm on T-Mobile in Cape Coral FL - are you on Tmo too? Did you try driving around to pick up different cell towers? As I said all my testing has been at hoime, so not a lot of "variety" in what it could pick up over the air.
-Joel
Hi Joel,
I am on T-Mobile, but it's over here in Germany...
I didn't try different cell towers.
Looks like you have to try both, when encoutering the problem.
Is anyone here who tried both and it still didn't work?
If u change system lang on registry, it´ll work.
Mui lang=0XXX
Cheers.
i tried all of your suggestions but nothing helped it worked one time but since then ...
Gotta say i've only ever had it working once, and even then it was very inaccurate (brought up somewhere about 20 miles away).
I've tried every radio, manual network selection, turning 3g off, i also had to add my own town into the database and nothing works.
Using google maps with wifi, 3g, grps it finds my location to with in 500 metres, with gps it's spot on, so i know that aspect of it works.
However using the weather my location, it rotates between 3 different locations (One is about 1 mile away and the other 2 are about 5 miles away). It'll bring up the name, but always gives me the "There was a connection error while attempting to download weather data. Retry?" message.
so i'm at a loss as to how to get this working.
My location is working for me, i'm using the tmob radio(not the one in my sig but it worked with that one too) its showing a village about a mile from me, and the same on my wifes Hero-Stock ROM. all ive done is load latest Google maps and wait for it to find my location then exit, go to weather tab and select download weather automatically then back, a screen appears to accept google data download, accept then it works,
it seems my location is only as accurate as google maps as it uses the tower positions around you to triangulate you approximate position, when i'm in a town or city it shows that place. i dunno what else to suggest changing my radio helped. i'm not using 3g, maybe that helps?
ark666 said:
If u change system lang on registry, it´ll work.
Mui lang=0XXX
Cheers.
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Interesting
Which setting for syslang would I have to use?
I am in Germany, but my Windows Mobile is English.
osrix25 said:
My location is working for me, i'm using the tmob radio(not the one in my sig but it worked with that one too) its showing a village about a mile from me, and the same on my wifes Hero-Stock ROM. all ive done is load latest Google maps and wait for it to find my location then exit, go to weather tab and select download weather automatically then back, a screen appears to accept google data download, accept then it works,
it seems my location is only as accurate as google maps as it uses the tower positions around you to triangulate you approximate position, when i'm in a town or city it shows that place. i dunno what else to suggest changing my radio helped. i'm not using 3g, maybe that helps?
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I've tried doing everything the same as above and no dice.
Like i said google maps my location feature is pretty accurate for me.
Using google maps with wifi, 3g, grps it finds my location to with in 500 metres, with gps it's spot on.
Sorry i can't help any further..its weird, i'm running At0ms 3.7 but i'm sure it also worked for me on previous builds,
i think on earlier builds i had to also switch data connection on in comms so it stays on - Actually i think this might be be key as i think My Location has trouble calling the data connection which is where your error message is coming from. i hope it works for you.
As you're on Vodafone you could try this reg setting for Agps i don't think it will make any difference but it may do..if nothing else there good settings!
osrix25 said:
Sorry i can't help any further..its weird, i'm running At0ms 3.7 but i'm sure it also worked for me on previous builds,
i think on earlier builds i had to also switch data connection on in comms so it stays on - Actually i think this might be be key as i think My Location has trouble calling the data connection which is where your error message is coming from. i hope it works for you.
As you're on Vodafone you could try this reg setting for Agps i don't think it will make any difference but it may do..if nothing else there good settings!
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yeah it worked on fusion 3.5 but hasn't worked for me on any other rom.
TVM for the reg settings, i'll give them a whirl.
I've tried everything listed here and am unsuccessful on TF2D 2.5.
Does anyone have the original 2330fc3c_manila file they can upload from 2.5?
Thanks.
Bruce Inman said:
I've tried everything listed here and am unsuccessful on TF2D 2.5.
Does anyone have the original 2330fc3c_manila file they can upload from 2.5?
Thanks.
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I a running shadowline's 23064 build with 2.5.19133431. I was unable to get the location stuff working as well. I turned on all the location settings through SenseUI, but no go. I enabled Assisted GPS through Advanced Config (not sure if that is relevant). Still no go. I allowed my phone to connect up to my home WiFi, and instantly, it recognized my location as Seattle.
Not sure if it will work for others, but it worked for me.
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I a running shadowline's 23064 build with 2.5.19133431. I was unable to get the location stuff working as well. I turned on all the location settings through SenseUI, but no go. I enabled Assisted GPS through Advanced Config (not sure if that is relevant). Still no go. I allowed my phone to connect up to my home WiFi, and instantly, it recognized my location as Seattle.
Not sure if it will work for others, but it worked for me.
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That worked for me at my home in Germany.
Now I am in Italy on holidays.
Same infrastructure here. Working WiFi, too.
But it doesn't do the trick here.
My phone still thinks my location is Germany and any updates just fail.
Think, I am giving up with this build.
My home screen is not getting any weather display - when I run the weather app directly I can add locations and view the weather for them, but whenever it tries to update "My Location" it fails with a connection error. Any ideas? I'm using an O2 contract SIM card if that makes any difference (connected via WiFi also).
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My home screen is not getting any weather display - when I run the weather app directly I can add locations and view the weather for them, but whenever it tries to update "My Location" it fails with a connection error. Any ideas? I'm using an O2 contract SIM card if that makes any difference (connected via WiFi also).
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Pure guesswork here, but assuming you're indoors or have no GPS signal, your phone would try to use cell towers to locate you and give you the current weather. Using a WiFi connection probably means it can't locate you?
Try without WiFi on the first time so that it can get a location, and maybe subsequent updates via WiFi will assume that your "My Location" has stayed the same?
Just a guess but dose it need a GPS signal to get the location or does it take it off the cell towers.
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Pure guesswork here, but assuming you're indoors or have no GPS signal, your phone would try to use cell towers to locate you and give you the current weather. Using a WiFi connection probably means it can't locate you?
Try without WiFi on the first time so that it can get a location, and maybe subsequent updates via WiFi will assume that your "My Location" has stayed the same?
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I should post a bit quicker
It's not that unfortunately, I've tried it both with a GPS signal and with WiFi turned off. Google maps knows where I am also. Most odd.
i have the same problem today. Worked through Activesync this morning. Internet seems OK today but weather is showing a connection error!
Maybe the location service (or the weather service) is down?
I just disabled it from showing in weather tab by using duttys disable location cab. Couldn't get it to work either so its useless to me.
all ok here
It never worked correctly on the custom roms for HD - and everyone was putting it down to "pre-release" software lol. I either get a connection error or no weather for your location!!!
I wonder if it's related to your service provider - I'm with O2 UK, anybody else have the same and got this working please?
I found a semi-decent workaround at least - the location used on the home screen is the one you set as your own in the world clock tool. That can either be the dynamic "My Location" or a city of your choosing.
I'm with Vodafone, and it seems to be working fine for me. Did you make sure that the 'location' settings are set right? i.e. HTC location service is checked, and 'Improve location service by collecting data at any time when device is in use' is set to on?
also on vodafone and its working fine for me
Orange - not working
next time you're out and about, try to update the weather. I have a polaris with WM6.5 which refuses to update at my home location but drive 20m down the road and it finds my location and tells me the weather. unfortunately when i return home it won't update, it's stuck on the wrong place and time. very chuffing annoying. I'm on O2 contract. the "helpful" erk on the helpline advised that as my handset is not sold as WM6.5 they could not help, what a cop out - [email protected]
rivets
Still no joy here, tried as many different combinations and scenarios as I can think of. I guess it just won't work for me with my SIM card, for whatever reason.
I get that problem depending on where i am. I'm on o2 aswell.
I am on O2 and nver got it to work so disabled it.
I had to agree to use the Google location service to get the weather working.