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Okay so I got superpower from the market and it gives you the option to set the CPU to "ondemand" but that makes the phone super laggy and unresponsive. However, when I set it manually in SetCPU to "performance" it freezes and I have to pull the battery when I lock the phone.
What are the optimum settings for SetCPU for the Fascinate?
Lol do we even have to use setcpu anymore? Doesn't the kernel have built in profiles?
May just my wishful thinking but i haven't used setcpu since.......never?
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This is only useful for overclocking, but I haven't noticed any significant difference from oc. To overclock, you also need a kernel that sports oc.
But, whatever you do, do not put it on "on demand." The galaxy s phones do not have a setting for it and will cause all kinds of issues for your phone.
You can mess around with the advanced stuff to see what works best with you
Interactive seems to work for me.
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Just don't use or setup any profiles, it will cause issues.
Ok so I have searched all over the forums and through google to find an answer to this and I can't any where so here goes. I am currently running the syndicate rom with the extreme kernal installed and when I go to use set cpu I have it set to conservative but any time I try to limit the cpu speed with the sliders it doesn't tae effect. The green numbers above the sliders will change stating my preferences but the white numbers that show the actual speed of the processor will continue to climb past my desired bottleneck. It looks like thecpu always stays between a range of 200 mhz and 1.2 ghz no matter what I set it at. If I change the style to something other than conservative it will change the behavior like performance will keep it at 1.2 or what I select and battery saver will keep it at the minimum. On demand and interactive seem to respond as well but are a little buggy and any little touch on the screen will make the processor jump straight to the maximum and stay there fr a bit which I would assume would kill my battery quite a bit faster. Does any one know if this is an issue with the phone, rom, kernal and if there is maybe a better settng than conservative or a different kernal I could use I was looking into the phoenix or fluff kernal. Any help or recomendations would begreatly appreciated. Thanks
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Its been a long time since Ive used it (2.2.1 scales pretty good) if I remeber right,interactive is what you want to select,but on some kernels conservtive is what you want to select.I never used the profiles,I think they dont work all the time.
That's odd I never had that problem with syndicate. And I know for sure that almost every overclocking kernel recommends conservative, for some reason the other profiles can cause problems. There's a couple things that I've learned.
Conservative, for one thing, is never going to be an on demand setting. Typically it will just up the cpu to the max you set it at whenever there is some sort of activity on the phone. Which begs the question, what do you have the max set at? if its 1ghz, remember that the kernel is overclocked, so a setting of 1ghz will allow you to go to 1.2ghz. (I'm almost positive you don't want to set it at 1.2, because then it will peak higher than that) I think the max you set it to should be the listed physical limit of the processor (ours is 1ghz obviously), and the overclocking handles it from there (at least that's been my experience).
Also, remember that when there is no activity (your phones in your pocket), the cpu will be at your minimum. So you save battery in that regard, because with out setting cpu limits, like if you're running stock, I think it might run at the max all the time. (I don't that for a fact tho) again, we pretty much have to run conservative, (I've read its something to do with these hummingbirds and setcpu and overclock widget aren't built fot them) so its an all or nothing deal, you can't get "just enough" processor setting.
Try creating different conditions to help yourself out. When I had syndiccate I had a different setting for the screen being off, for being plugged in to a wall, for being plugged in to a computer, and for being below a certain battery %. Those are really cool features and help out a lot.
And as far as other roms...I use baked snack right now with his ultimate kernel. Its only sllliggghttly less stable than syndicate (but most most most defintly stable enough for a daily driver), and I get much better battery life and performance. He recommends using overclock widget, which isn't as flexible as setcpu, but defintly gets the job done. You'll have to google baked snack and find his website since they kicked him off of here.
Hope that helps, let me know if I didn't quite answer your question correctly.
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From my experience,you need to set it to 1.2 to activate OC...That being said,there are some kernels that need the interactive setting to work right...and 2.2.1 scales to the lowest setting when screen off even without setcpu,thats why I dont use it anymore.I will again once we have an official OC kernel for 2.2.1.
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I actually used to have bakedsnacks rom and I liked it but it became a bit glitchy on me but I did think the battery life was a bit better. I only am using eclair as I want to wait for a final build of froyo to come out from sprint so the developers can utilize it better. I tried some of the leaked ones but I prefered the 2.1 better, all of the 2.2 ones were missing minor things that I used so I switched back. Also interactive setting just keeps the processor at max clock for a really long time before it scales back down and I didn't like that. Has anyone used the fluff ondemand kernal that is supposed to be for bettery battery life with syndicated 2.1? So I have deleted setcpu but it seemed to eat my battery faster so I put it back on. Maybe I will try some other kernal configurations since I was told that I can swap kernals without looseing data.
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Fluff was glitchy for me,I liked Xtreme kernel the best.
For those of you on CM7 (preferably RC2 or later nightlies), are you using SetCPU or the built in CMSettings CPU manager? Which is giving you better performance/battery life?
I can't help but think that the built in CM Settings CPU tuner is going to be conflicting with my SetCPU profiles.
Been using nightlies since #30 or so, and I currently run SetCPU with a normal profile, a screen off profile, and a profile for <10% battery and haven't touched CMSettings' CPU manager.
I'm contemplating just uninstalling SetCPU for a day or two and seeing what a 1017max / 245min Ondemand or Powersave governor via CMSettings ends up doing to my battery life considering there will be no screen off profile.
Any thoughts?
I dumped setCPU after a lot of testing (and even bought it on market)
I'm finding I'm much happier using inbuilt CPU settings. I think battery life is the same but performance is better due to the fact that SetCPU would sometimes get stuck in my screen-off profile when turned on causing the phone to be really slow.
I recomend uninstalling setCPU, set your ONDEMAND governor with ~1Ghz and run it... You'll find your battery about the same but much less hassle.
I have yet to try that, I somewhat feel obligated to use SetCPU since I purchased it lol. But it probably won't be the last time I waste money at the market.
Neither. CPU tuner works best for me.
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Neither. CPU tuner works best for me.
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its the same thing :facepalm:
Try the inbuilt one... I think its way easier
I've been wondering about this too. I don't quite understand how it works. Can I just set the frequency higher till a certain point without changing the voltage and get the same battery life?
What's the best way of doing this? Just change the clock speed or do I need to change something else or update the kernel?
Whatever you tell SetCPU to do, you'll see the same settings mirrored in the CM settings.
I say setCPU cuz as battery gets lower... I have my CPU speed lower also. Basically, 15% battery lasts me forever :] lol
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DJAeroX26 said:
I say setCPU cuz as battery gets lower... I have my CPU speed lower also. Basically, 15% battery lasts me forever :] lol
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Definitely. This is the one thing I like about SetCPU is having the 10% and 5% profiles so that I can get the last few % to last forever if I need it. Although in normal day-to-day use I'm never pushing it below 20%.
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Whatever you tell SetCPU to do, you'll see the same settings mirrored in the CM settings.
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Yea I see this, as far as the governor changing etc.. This is why I'm wondering if it would be easier on my phone to just run only the CM Settings one.
I notice that every 5th or so time I unlock the phone, there is an obvious lag switching from the screen off profile, and my unlock sliders jitter around and it takes 4-5 tries to unlock the phone. I think this is probably partially due to both settings switching over trying to change.
I think I might try backing up and uninstalling SetCPU for tomorrow to see how it goes.
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I've been wondering about this too. I don't quite understand how it works. Can I just set the frequency higher till a certain point without changing the voltage and get the same battery life?
What's the best way of doing this? Just change the clock speed or do I need to change something else or update the kernel?
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I've read on here that overclocking the Vision's CPU up to 1 GHz requires no over-volting, and in theory should not affect battery life (but not sure exactly where that information originates from). But there has been lots of debate on these forums on whether the SetCPU app helps or hurts battery life depending on screen-off profiles (underclocking to save battery) or its constant polling of the CPU clock (possibly killing the battery faster).
A kernel that supports overclocking is already part of the CM ROM. If you are on CM, you can just adjust the clock speed under Settings>CM Settings>Performance>CPU settings. Or set the CPU clock using an app like SetCPU. Choosing one method over the other is what is being asked/debated here. If you are on the stock ROM, you need to be rooted, flash a custom kernel that supports overclocking, then install an app such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner to set the CPU clock to your liking.
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I've read on here that overclocking the Vision's CPU up to 1 GHz requires no over-volting, and in theory should not affect battery life (but not sure exactly where that information originates from). But there has been lots of debate on these forums on whether the SetCPU app helps or hurts battery life depending on screen-off profiles (underclocking to save battery) or its constant polling of the CPU clock (possibly killing the battery faster).
A kernel that supports overclocking is already part of the CM ROM. If you are on CM, you can just adjust the clock speed under Settings>CM Settings>Performance>CPU settings. Or set the CPU clock using an app like SetCPU. Choosing one method over the other is what is being asked/debated here. If you are on the stock ROM, you need to be rooted, flash a custom kernel that supports overclocking, then install an app such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner to set the CPU clock to your liking.
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I'm not sure about CM's kernel with the over-volting but I do know that Pershoots kernel can be overclocked to 979mhz without over-volting (Pershoot told me himself).
At 1.8Ghz, I find the temp settings in SetCPU very useful.
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At 1.8Ghz, I find the temp settings in SetCPU very useful.
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Well obviously.... But why the hell would you ever need to be running at 1.8ghz? The fact that you are always using a temp-specific profile method should show you that consistent 1.8ghz isn't good for the phone...
Okay so I uninstalled SetCPU last night and I'm going to run just the CM Settings CPU manager all day to see how it goes. Running like this:
ONDEMAND governor
Min CPU: 245 mhz
Max CPU: 1017 mhz
On nightly #19 also.
Okay so its midnight almost, and I'm at 13hrs unplugged and 52% battery still. Pretty general/light use, phone is just as snappy and the lack of a screen off profile doesn't seem to effect battery at all. Liking it so far! very interesting to see the screen off profile not mattering much.
SetCPU for me. I like to have a temperature and charging profile, to prevent the phone from overheating. Even at 1ghz the possibility exists, nice to have a backup incase.
I'm thinking set cpu conflicting with the cm built in caused my ****ty running problems. I have not used setcpu since and been good so far
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I'm thinking set cpu conflicting with the cm built in caused my ****ty running problems. I have not used setcpu since and been good so far
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With multiple tries... If you change the settings on one, it cancels the settings on the other... Maybe it's because you had set on boot enabled on both?
im going to run the CM tuner and uninstall Setcpu and see how it runs. i never thought about this but i do get that lag when i turn my screen on sometimes. im gonna miss having the profiles but ill see how it runs over the coarse of a couple days.
I'm running Bionix V 1.3.2 with the Immortality 2.1 kernel.
What I'm curious about is everyone's preferred overclocking app?
From what it looks like, it comes down to SetCPU, No-frills, Tegrak, or CPU tuner.
No frills advertises doing the overclocking without running in the background- which is appealing.
What are your thoughts?
Im not familiar with anything other then set cpu. I like it because I set up profiles for charging, screen off and temp. Ive used it for a while even when not overclocking, just for the screen off profile.
go with set CPU that's great the profiles really help save battery
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You can use Voltage Control to OC too...
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So it looks like there are a couple of categories the overclocking apps can be divided in to- those with profile management and without, and those for the SGS only.
Profile Management: SetCPU ($1.95), Tegrak ($1.95), CPU Tuner (Free)
Without: No Frills (Free), Voltage Control (Free/$3.84)
Both Tegrak and Voltage Control are specific to the SGS family- why would I want to buy a program that only works with specific phones when I can get a solution that will work with all my future phones?
I know SetCPU is the most commonly used solution, but I keep reading so many complaints in the forums. Does anyone have any experience with CPU tuner in comparison to the others? I'll at least tinker with it when I have time since I'll have more than 15 minutes to see if I like it.
Set cpu is horrible, atleast from my experience.
Constant screen of death, meaning after I lock phone,it won't turn on until reboot.
Instability. Lagged my phone even with oc only up to 1.2
Voltage control is what I prefer.
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Set cpu is horrible, atleast from my experience.
Constant screen of death, meaning after I lock phone,it won't turn on until reboot.
Instability. Lagged my phone even with oc only up to 1.2
Voltage control is what I prefer.
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Sounds like your kernel is not compatible with setcpu =]
Some are not and votage control is preferred.
I'm on MIUI revamped Xx-2 with glitch 11 anf haven't had a problem with setcpu.
Vibrant+MIUI
Setcpu because in the "About? " it has says "Its over 9000! " plus its simple to use.
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Well I'm using voltage control right now because its tailored to the hummingbird and I like the undervolt settings. Once you find the right voltages, your battery will be (more) amazing.
However, I've used setcpu since I've had my htc hero and it works wonders...at first when the galaxy s came out, there were conflicts and setcpu couldn't tune the hummingbird(atleast for the Epic 4g, the Galaxy S for Sprint), but that's since been worked on.
Setcpu is very straightforward. When you start it up, just tap autodetect speeds and it'll have a slider for min/max and yyou just slide it to the appropriate speeds. Then you use "governors" that dictate how the processor clocks...for example, on "conservative" the cpu scales up to the speed it needs to process what you're doing and slows down really fast when not in use. "Ondemand" is basically the same thing, but it scales high up and then lowers itself to the needed speed. "Performance" keeps your cpu clocked at its highest speed and keeps it there. Its good to run performance when you need to run benchmarks or do a lot of stuff on your phone at once, because it kills the battery faster (obviously)
Just try em out...setcpu is free on xda, just look for it in the apps section on android general I think or the g1 boards
Voltage control, be wary about, because if you mess with the ettings and don't know what you're doing, it'll corrupt your phone.
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I like voltage control too and pimp my CPU mainly because SetCpu hardly ever supports the kernels I use and when it does it gives me reboots
Thank you, I'll give Voltage Control a try. Do you have any 'safe' recommended voltage settings when using smartass, and then I'll see the limits of my phone from there?
No sorry idk about the vibrant, but it sould be able to handle the uv since we're both hummingbird
When you use VC, do it one clock speed at a time. The voltage slider moves in -25mV increments. Each processor is different. For example, my phone can handle 1.4ghz unervolted by -50mV but if I put it down one more notch, my phone freezes and its FC galore. So its good to have a backup.
If you're not turned away by the amount of time it takes to tune VC, then it'll be worth it. You just have to thoroughly test the phone each time you undervolt to make sure its stable before you set it as Boot. To test just scroll around and run acouple of benchmarks.
For example, when I started my UV, I started with 1.4ghz and worked my way down to 1.3, 1.2, 1.1, 1.0, .8 and .6 ghz. Slide it to 1400MHz and then slide the voltage bar one notch to the left to uv it by 25mV. Hit apply and then run smartbench, quadrant, neocore, linpack, w/e just to make sure your phone can handle it. If it can, move it one more notch and test it out. Rinse repeat for the rest
Setcpu is way more user friendly and does what its supposed to, but vc is for power users I guess
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If I do recall you could also change the voltages in setcpu. Ya know if your kernel supports it.
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This is a guide I have typed up on how to get the best display , sound, and battery out of your phone...
First you need to set up voodoo color with the voodoo control application on the market.
The way I did this was turn each setting all the way up and turned down gradually until the color went away. Now my display has never looked better.
Voodoo color settings differ from phone to phone due to screen use and the fact that different colors are different on certain phones. My phone is less blue than others, so I recommend that you follow that technique and do it yourself.
Voodoo profile v1
225
254
365
-15
-18
-11
My next thing I am going to talk about is sound.
In some kernels the drivers for voodoo are currently built into the kernel but not accessible via the UI.In cm7, voodoo sound doesn't exist at all. I purchased the payed version of voodoo control and the loading of the driver via that works without squealing. If you need voodoo sound, buy it. To get optimal sound, you need to tweak according to headphones. Plug in your headphones and play a song that you like with good quality audio. Now tweak the bass boost and equalizer (if your media player has one). Left side is bass(background stuff and shake), right is treble (clear voice). I usually keep the middle low and sides high.
If you have a phone that can go to 1.5ghz with ease, these are the settings I recommend.
Min: 100
Max: 1000
100 -150
200 -125
400-800 -75
Remove 900
1000 -100
Next, speed and battery. Get the voltage control app for this. Use ondemand for voltage testing it gets a wide range of frequencies. At the lower frequencies, undervolt starting at -150. Lock the phone, let it sit for a minute, if it froze, bump the voltage up to, -125. After the lowest step is set up good, change the other steps starting at the last voltage slide around the voltage control application and then idle a bit, if it freezes, move the voltage up... do the same for the next steps, starting with the voltage of the last.
Now you can test speed with governor and schedulers. I use ondemand and sio but most like lagfree and vr.
Overclocking is an option for speed but I advise against it due to.horrible, the risk of data corruption, and the decreased ability and life of your phone.
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Boxer briefs.
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I have a feeling he used swiftkey x. It changed overclocking to overclothing for me lol
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Ive been wondering what do all the different governors do in tegrak/ voltage control? searched around, couldnt find anything
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Ive been wondering what do all the different governors do in tegrak/ voltage control? searched around, couldnt find anything
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Governers tell the processor when to go to certain speeds. Comservitive keeps it lazy and not moving around much. Lagfree keeps it high when the screen is on. Performance keeps it always at the highest. Ondemand keeps it at a mix of speed and performance. Smartass and savagedzen make it low when the screen is off and scales according to demand.
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Thanks for a great explaination and a good starting point for frequencies.
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Marcusant, I've been thinking about this a bunch lately. When people use profiles in something like SetCPU aren't they setting up redundant commands? In theory a well programmed governor would notice the state the phone was in and adjust according to the governor's master settings. By setting a profile would it be like having a governor running within other governors?
Profiles really **** **** up... the processor will go wherever it needs to go.
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Thanks for this guide man. Just what I was looking for.
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Well thanks for such a useful piece of guide and i can say information...i really wanted to know this.This is so helpful of you.Now i can get the best display , sound, and battery out of my phone trying this..I will let you know.
Thanks mate. This is working really well.
Really appreciate the guide Marc. I've never knew enough about voodoo and ocing stuff to do any good with them.
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Indeed, Marcusant, this was really helpful.
seems like you were right about the overclocking, tried these settings, plus 1200 mhz, and it was stable for a while, then the phone started rebooting on me. maybe i just need to keep messing with the voltage. anyway, what are the differences in schedulers?