4G In Sacramento, Ca - EVO 4G General

Its HERE!!! Probably not fully capable but it functions in Midtown.

It's definitely around Roseville and up in Rocklin.

Midtown? Roseville? Rocklin? Nothing in Arden area yet...
What kind of speeds are you guys getting?

in natomas also

I was in Antelope earlier today, and 4g connected, but speeds were unimpressive (1k down, 500 up), and connection was unreliable. Must be in an initial deployment phase.

We have had for 4g in Stockton for over a month it works great. Even out in the burbs where i live.

I live in Elk Grove and get it in the middle of town but not so great where I live on the edge of town..

Just got confirmation from my Sprint rep that the greater Sacramento area has officially been turned up with 4g service, from El Dorado Hills, Rocklin, Downtown, Elk Grove, everything.
Post your speeds!

So last night I was testing in various areas in Sac, consistently getting up to 3k down.

So here's the official word:
Sacramento is online as of Sunday. Ditto for Citrus Heights, Folsom, and Roseville.
Service by the 937 Howe Avenue store sucks, so don't go there for WiMax issues. Took me an hour of fighting them and showing the tech how to see the RSA keys on his rooted phone to get mine replaced due to my RSA keys getting nuked.
Rancho Cordova (South of [email protected] and [email protected], and by Anatolia. No word about the business park, Walmart area, etc.) is currently a testbed zone (meaning the phone will pick up the signal, try to connect, then instantly disconnect). Since the rest of Sacramento was doing this just before being lit up, it's fairly safe to assume that region will be coming online in a few months, possibly in time for Christmas.

awesome, im moving there early next year

parts of Folsom has 4G. my friend was able to get 7Mb down on his EVO today. very impressive. i am running Cyanogen 6.1, so no go for me, but might be time to leave AOSP (reluctantly).

This map is pretty informative. It even shows where each tower is. Check it out. Just Google "clear coverage map". Will be the first link.

mclife said:
This map is pretty informative. It even shows where each tower is. Check it out. Just Google "clear coverage map". Will be the first link.
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Here's the link:
http://www.clear.com/coverage

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T-Mobile shows NO LOVE for Raleigh, NC!

T-Mobile has no planned HSPA+ coverage for the "Triangle" in North Carolina?
WTF?
I went and checked the new HSPA+ Maps and coverage again. MAN! I live in the Capital of North Carolina (agreeable not exactly a HUGE Metropolis, LOL!) but it IS where Research Triangle Park is, Home to a fair amount of the East Coasts Tech Companies Lucent, Ericsson, VMware, Network Appliance Etc. (IBM where I work has 12,000 ppl here)
If Sprint can put their 4G Wimax here in Raleigh, why are we not even on the "coming soon" maps for TMOUS? I mean, they don;t even have PLANS to implement here? Meanwhile, the HAVE coverage in other places in the state, such as:
Charlotte?
Winston-Salem?
Fayetteville ??
Greensboro????
I mean, Fayetteville?
AARRRRGGGHHH!
I have been scouring these board for a long time, I came out of hiding for this one.
I'm in Raleigh too, I saw that map last week, I was thinking the exact same thing.
I can see Charlotte, it is a big city with a lot of people.
I can see Fayetteville, It is home to a bunch of military who deploy frequently.
I can maybe see Winston-Salem, that is the VA's main medical facility, and a lot of govt buildings.
But seriously, Greensboro???? WTF?
David
Ya it suks, but I just did a speed test (speakeasy) within RTP and I get 3mbps down and 1.5 up, which really is faster than what i'm getting with roadrunner crap at home. (unfortunately I don't get full HSDPA at home, especially downstairs, or else I would just use the phone instead).
Hopefully they'll roll out HSDPA+ in RTP at the start of 2011.
2011 is too long. I want it now *insert tantrum*
yeah but u gotta think... we were the last ppl in the state i think to get 3G coverage.... look at the coverage map. they seem like they bein cheap wit it. its all jumpy and only right near the city thats messed up. hope they have it in MD where i'm from so i can test it out somewhere atleast... this is bs i want 6 mb dl then i might cancel clearwire lol
Well it wasn't 2011, but it was close enough. HSPA+ FTW!!!!
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Well it wasn't 2011, but it was close enough. HSPA+ FTW!!!!
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I just read the post and the first thing in my head was chicago got it just a week ago. One of the largest cities in the states. They have a LOT of work set out for them. Give it time.

WTF!!! Calling anyone in CT that can connect to 4G

So today I was trying to kill my battery after wiping all data to rebuild the battery stats and randomly turned on 4G to help kill the battery, but found that it connected to Clearwire, rather than Sprint. Now I will have to drive around and try and locate the broadcast point.
I live in Wolcott, CT and small town in New Haven County that boarders Hartford County, next to Waterbury. This was a fluke that I turned on 4G but was surprised to see that it connected.
My speeds are crap but have gotten it up to 6mbps down, nothing better than 3G upload speeds though ~0.33mbps up.
Here are some pictures to show.
I live in stamford, no luck with 4g here.
Rene2.5RS said:
So today I was trying to kill my battery after wiping all data to rebuild the battery stats and randomly turned on 4G to help kill the battery, but found that it connected to Clearwire, rather than Sprint. Now I will have to drive around and try and locate the broadcast point.
I live in Wolcott, CT and small town in New Haven County that boarders Hartford County, next to Waterbury. This was a fluke that I turned on 4G but was surprised to see that it connected.
My speeds are crap but have gotten it up to 6mbps down, nothing better than 3G upload speeds though ~0.33mbps up.
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i see your 4g bars, dont seem to much!
Sprint and Clearwire
I thought Sprint used Clearwire's WiMax network. (i.e. Sprint 4G is really a rebranded Clearwire WiMax) Not to mention Sprint owns the majority interest in Clearwire.
In Orange County California I came across a small pocket of 4G coverage. The weak signal only allowed about 1.65 Mbs down and 0.48 up which is far below the 4G spec but better than the usual 3G (altho also below the 3G spec).
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I thought Sprint used Clearwire's WiMax network. (i.e. Sprint 4G is really a rebranded Clearwire WiMax) Not to mention Sprint owns the majority interest in Clearwire.
In Orange County California I came across a small pocket of 4G coverage. The weak signal only allowed about 1.65 Mbs down and 0.48 up which is far below the 4G spec but better than the usual 3G (altho also below the 3G spec).
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Clearwire is Sprint's 4G provider. I have just never seen Clearwire listed as the ISP while in labeled 4G areas thats all...
What I find funny is Clearwire does not list any active broadcast location in CT, so I wonder why I am picking anything up...
A quick google finds that Clearwire is hiring in the Hartford, CT area. Everyone from customer support to RF Engineers. Perhaps you were close to their Hartford location.
last time I was in hartford (at the club lol) I got like 3-4 bars of 4G, it was AWESOME! That's the only place I've ever had 4g, since I live in the springfield area (I wouldn't give my city, that's just stupid. Even though I use my real name as my username and you could easily find me via google. lol)
anyways I was getting like 8mbps down and 2-3mbps up
That's pretty cool and all, but do you really want to post a map to your home on the internet?
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A quick google finds that Clearwire is hiring in the Hartford, CT area. Everyone from customer support to RF Engineers. Perhaps you were close to their Hartford location.
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Hartford is about 20-25 miles away from Wolcott, but I have noticed that they were hiring here.
Samzebian said:
last time I was in hartford (at the club lol) I got like 3-4 bars of 4G, it was AWESOME! That's the only place I've ever had 4g, since I live in the springfield area (I wouldn't give my city, that's just stupid. Even though I use my real name as my username and you could easily find me via google. lol)
anyways I was getting like 8mbps down and 2-3mbps up
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That's pretty cool and all, but do you really want to post a map to your home on the internet?
Sent from my blah blah blah blah
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I'm really not that worried, user name is my real name, and if you or anyone else really feels the need to come visit me have at it... Nothing a quick search on the internet wouldn't pull up anyways.
Im in manchester, I tracked down the tower...right in back of the sprint store...got nearly 12mbit on mobile speed test...at my house 1.5 miles away I couldn't even get a signal. I think its in low-power test mode. The signal drops like a rock as you drive away...what's wimax range? I thought it was many many miles, 20 to 30 if you still had a good line of sight....?
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Im in manchester, I tracked down the tower...right in back of the sprint store...got nearly 12mbit on mobile speed test...at my house 1.5 miles away I couldn't even get a signal. I think its in low-power test mode. The signal drops like a rock as you drive away...what's wimax range? I thought it was many many miles, 20 to 30 if you still had a good line of sight....?
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I will track down the broadcast point. There are a couple large cell towers in my area that I will start with.
I found the broadcast point, it was were I thought it would be, top of route 69. Was getting almost 11mbps down and around 1.5mbps up. Kind of weird that there is 4G in this area now.
I had 1 bar in new haven not to long ago and got a little over 4 mbps down and about 1 mbps up.
4G Waterbury CT
Hello everyone. Found this post searching around and figured I would join this great forum.
I found out earlier today that 4g service was started up in Waterbury. I saw that the OP is in wolcott. Flip on ur 4G and give it a minute to set up.
With speedtest.net Im getting an average of 9.25 down and 1.75 up.
The internet flies on this phone at those speeds. Web pages load in a second or so compared to 10 secs on 3g.
Finally we get our 10 bucks out of the deal, lol.
4g is all over newhaven and hartford
It's also available in stamford, ct - there is a tower on the TOP of the new Trump building.
Just google "4g stamford" or "4g your town here"
download the sensorly app on your phone and you can see real time reports of it down to road level.
You have to zoom in on this link before it gets accurate
http://www.sensorly.com/Map/4G/USA/Sprint/wimax-sp
nobody tried sensorly?
That sensorly map seems to be inaccurate for me at my current location, it says I should have 4g coverage but I do not. Back at home in seattle though I do have 4g almost everywhere so I am used to having it.
Edit: I stand corrected by the fact that if you download the app and zoom in really close (better then you can on the website) it shows I do not have coverage.
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I get 4G throughout E.Hartford and Manchester. None in Glastonbury though. I get 5-8 Down in E.Ha.
There are pockets of 4g in Rocky Hill & Newington. Conveniently, the Newington Sprint Store has 4g coverage ;-)

[CLOSED] More HSPA+ Cities Announced!

T-Mobile announced more cities now with HSPA+ during the myTouch release. Here's the list of cities:
With its latest expansion, T-Mobile’s HSPA+ footprint now includes Biloxi and Gulfport, Miss.; Denver, Colo.; Huntsville, Ala.; Knoxville, Tenn.; Myrtle Beach, S.C.; Norfolk, Va.; Omaha, Neb.; Phoenix and Tucson, Ariz.; Salt Lake City, Utah; San Francisco, San Jose, Oakland and Sacramento, Calif.; and West Palm Beach, Fla. T-Mobile expects to reach 100 major metropolitan areas and 200 million people in 2010.
Source: Tmonews.
Personally, the fact that San Jose is getting is best news ever as I get my phone tomorrow. Hopefully T-Mo expands more, bringing the love to more people around this part of town. Chicago gets all the love all the time!
Nice!
I was told by a rep that it wasn't comin in my area till November but this is really good news.
Thanks for the post...
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T-Mobile announced more cities now with HSPA+ during the myTouch release. Here's the list of cities:
With its latest expansion, T-Mobile’s HSPA+ footprint now includes Biloxi and Gulfport, Miss.; Denver, Colo.; Huntsville, Ala.; Knoxville, Tenn.; Myrtle Beach, S.C.; Norfolk, Va.; Omaha, Neb.; Phoenix and Tucson, Ariz.; Salt Lake City, Utah; San Francisco, San Jose, Oakland and Sacramento, Calif.; and West Palm Beach, Fla. T-Mobile expects to reach 100 major metropolitan areas and 200 million people in 2010.
Source: Tmonews.
Personally, the fact that San Jose is getting is best news ever as I get my phone tomorrow. Hopefully T-Mo expands more, bringing the love to more people around this part of town. Chicago gets all the love all the time!
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Sacramento, Calif.
Can't wait!
no where on tmonews does it say these things maybe I looked it over can you provide a link?
SO these cities mentioned are HSPA+ live right now ?
Huntsville, AL \o/
We deserve it more than any other city in the state
Yes, Huntsville is the place to be in AL.
Too bad I live just outside of Huntsville where I only get edge. I look forward to having faster podcast downloads on the way to work though, once we get HSPA+.
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Yes, Huntsville is the place to be in AL.
Too bad I live just outside of Huntsville where I only get edge. I look forward to having faster podcast downloads on the way to work though, once we get HSPA+.
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Definitely. Awesome city although I was admittedly hesitant to move to the hick-state initially. Great place to be in the tech business. Hopefully Google brings that lovely fiber here...
I actually am in Hazel Green so only get edge and 3G in certain parts, but most of my phone-using day is in Huntsville area. 3G leaked from Huntsville out to Hazel Green rather quickly and I hope it does the same with HSPA+... Actually, the first day I saw 3G symbol ever was within Hazel Green limits on my way to work with my new G1 one day...
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no where on tmonews does it say these things maybe I looked it over can you provide a link?
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It was the same post as their myTouch HD launch. TMo announced it, see if you can confirm it by reading a press release perhaps.
It's not updated at TMo's official website, but it should be here pretty soon.
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Definitely. Awesome city although I was admittedly hesitant to move to the hick-state initially. Great place to be in the tech business. Hopefully Google brings that lovely fiber here...
I actually am in Hazel Green so only get edge and 3G in certain parts, but most of my phone-using day is in Huntsville area. 3G leaked from Huntsville out to Hazel Green rather quickly and I hope it does the same with HSPA+... Actually, the first day I saw 3G symbol ever was within Hazel Green limits on my way to work with my new G1 one day...
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Couldnt agree more with the fiber comment, this town(Huntsville) could definitely use it, especially considering the massive growth its experiencing right now.
Ive noticed the HSPA+ for about a week now, I used to get intermittant HSPA connections on my myTouch slide a few weeks back, but nothing solid, however in the last week I had nothing but HSPA connection no matter where I was at, including the freakin psuedo-bunker I work in, which I had problems even getting Edge in before.
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Couldnt agree more with the fiber comment, this town(Huntsville) could definitely use it, especially considering the massive growth its experiencing right now.
Ive noticed the HSPA+ for about a week now, I used to get intermittant HSPA connections on my myTouch slide a few weeks back, but nothing solid, however in the last week I had nothing but HSPA connection no matter where I was at, including the freakin psuedo-bunker I work in, which I had problems even getting Edge in before.
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Wow, a lot of people here from the area.
Could definitely use the fiber boost. It's an extremely tech/research-oriented city. I understand the places where the work is being done already have commercial connections, but... just give me the fiber!
If you don't already know, we have the same icon for 3G/HSPA/HSPA+ (the 'H') so it will be hard to tell what network you're really on.
about damn time they do Phoenix and Tucson at the same time!!!!!!
Man, I cannot wait. Did a random speed test yesterday and got about 7.6Mbps down on 3G.
Yes! Finally San Jose and San Fransisco
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about damn time they do Phoenix and Tucson at the same time!!!!!!
Man, I cannot wait. Did a random speed test yesterday and got about 7.6Mbps down on 3G.
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Phoenix area has been announced for some time now actually. They have been setting up HSPA+ speeds around my are for the last month now. My N1 has been basicly maxed out at 5-7mbps around my area ^_^
Now I am going to wait tell December to decide on what HSPA+ phone I want =D
Spoke too soon. Still stuck on HSDPA here in Salt Lake City. Guess I still have to wait till November...
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Anyone Else from South FL Here?
Anyone else from South FL (Tri-County Area (Palm beach.Broward/Miami Dade))?
If Miami, Ft lauderdale and West Palm are getting HSPA+, does that mean the less-major cities between them are as well?
Like Deerfield, Boca, Delray, Pompano, etc since they are between these three cities
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Now I am going to wait tell December to decide on what HSPA+ phone I want =D
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Trust me, you want the G2. The MyTouch is not only ugly, but it has a stupid name. ;-)
(Oh, and FWIW, the G2 is a VERY nice phone!)
Come to Chicago dammit! I want faster speeds
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Spoke too soon. Still stuck on HSDPA here in Salt Lake City. Guess I still have to wait till November...
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I went to the Tmobile store in fort union to play with the G2. The phone had some settings messed up so I couldn't access all the internet, but i could open google's home page and do a basic search. It was MUCH fast than my N1.
Norfolk in the house! I went to the Tmobile store on the 30th, when I received my phone, and the reps were surprised at two things:
I had the phone before them and the fact that the H was showing up in my device.
They concluded that the towers were upgraded, but they were just waiting to "flip the switch".
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4G coming to Hampton Roads Virginia!

My girlfriend had to exchange her EVO 4G yesterday at an official Sprint service center, and she was told that a lot of the problems we are having around here is because they've been working on the towers to upgrade them to 4G. The guy said they were doing it 'quietly, not announcing anything yet'.
Hope he's telling the truth! So far the closest 4G to here is Richmond, VA. It will be nice to see if this phone actually does 4G, or if that's just what they've been telling me.
I think your GF was feed a load of ____!
Clearwire hasn't been expanding due to money problems and a spat with Sprint. WiMax also runs at 2.5ghz and it's separate from Sprint's CDMA network. Clearwire wouldn't need to touch Sprint's hardware to launch WiMax in any area.
Now if it were Sprint upgrading their base station with their Network Vision plan, that could cause outages since all new hardware is being installed. Still that wouldn't be it because Sprint has publicly stated they will not start those changes till the 2nd half of this year.
If you're lucky, it could be Sprint making the change to Network Vision, in your area, for testing. I doubt that's it though.
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I think your GF was feed a load of ____!
Clearwire hasn't been expanding due to money problems and a spat with Sprint. WiMax also runs at 2.5ghz and it's separate from Sprint's CDMA network. Clearwire wouldn't need to touch Sprint's hardware to launch WiMax in any area.
Now if it were Sprint upgrading their base station with their Network Vision plan, that could cause outages since all new hardware is being installed. Still that wouldn't be it because Sprint has publicly stated they will not start those changes till the 2nd half of this year.
If you're lucky, it could be Sprint making the change to Network Vision, in your area, for testing. I doubt that's it though.
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False. Clear water is still expanding for the first half of the year. After that they are out of money.
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You should have better confirmation before you make a post declaring the 4G is coming Hampton Roads area. I've been getting that same line since I bought my EVO in June. And now since Clearwire is broke and they CEO just resigned, it doesn't look good for WiMax rollouts.
I got all hyped when I read the thead title. Come back when you have something official.
WAVY 10, our local news channel did some investigating in reference to the crappy sms and web service we have been dealing with. What they found was that Sprint network in our area can't handle the amount of new smart phone customers they have signed up with the evo and the epic. They are fixing the system and expect it to be back online correctly by April 1st. We will see!
They have been saying that forever too. Whenever there is a problem, give it a few weeks....then two months go by, and nothing.
4G is already in Hampton Roads. Downtown Norfolk has testing going on. It's not the greatest but it's something. I used it about a week ago while I was on Colley Ave. Coverage was in and out as I drove through downtown but it is working.
I too have been told, by a Sprint Rep in Norfolk at the JANAF shoppong center, that the network outages are caused by the area being upgraded to 4G and for support for more 4G phones. He told me that areas of Norfolk have 4G up unofficially for testing, and an announcment will be made in April.
I decided to test the 4G at a StarBucks near Colley and Princess Anne and it connected. The connection was spotty and Speedtest.net would not connect. The trajic part is as soon as I drove away from the Starbucks I lost the 4G connection and it told me disconnected but radio antenna still on. Its not like Richmond but its a step in the right direction.
We ahve it here in Raleigh and I enjoy it in the spots where it is available. Yeee Haaa, post #10, now I can actually post something usefull.
No 4G in VB yet..at least at lynhaven area 3G data speeds are horrifying though.
SpeedTest.net
Ping: 330
Download: 175 kbps
upload: 80 kbps
Such low numbers have been taking place the last couple months sickening really
Hampton
i havent gotten any 4g service they few times ive been to norfolk lately. Im in Hampton and i cant wait for 4g. But i honestly dont care if we get it. im sure i wouldnt use it alot cause of the battery anyways
look at clear's coverage map.....it shows a section of norfolk and gloucester as having 4g coverage
I live in Norfolk near the airport. i have never gotten any 4g connection. This weekend, I drove all through downtown and still did not get any 4g connection despite the claims in other posts. I will say that my 3g service has been really crappy lately. so i contacted sprint and they told me 4 towers were being worked on and should be fixed by april 1. The agent told me that she was annotating my call in my record and will be giving me a discount on my next month's bill because of failed service. She couldnt say how much but anything is better than nothing Yall should call as well. I'm just saying!
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4G is already in Hampton Roads. Downtown Norfolk has testing going on. It's not the greatest but it's something. I used it about a week ago while I was on Colley Ave. Coverage was in and out as I drove through downtown but it is working.
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This is true. Whenever I get off work and I'm stuck in traffic going westbound through the downtown tunnel, my Evo connects to 4G with full bars. The speed test results I saw were nothing special though. I only pulled 2.5Mbps down, but that's still better than my 3G speeds of around 200kbps....
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No 4G in VB yet..at least at lynhaven area 3G data speeds are horrifying though.
SpeedTest.net
Ping: 330
Download: 175 kbps
upload: 80 kbps
Such low numbers have been taking place the last couple months sickening really
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I will drive down colley this evening to confirm the claims. I will post if i do get 4g connectivity. I will also post my speedtest results if 4g is available. fingers crossed
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I will drive down colley this evening to confirm the claims. I will post if i do get 4g connectivity. I will also post my speedtest results if 4g is available. fingers crossed
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It is true! It is true! There is 4g downtown Norfolk. I followed Tidewater drive... to Little creek... made a left on Grandby. I followed Granby to 27th then Colley. The second I hit Colley I had 4 bars at 4g. I pulled over at the Golden Nugget Chinese Restaurant and ran a couple of speed tests. The results 7m down 2mb up Wow! That is awesome comparing to Norfolk's typical 3g service ranging from 200k-700k! I had service from the original find of 9:30 PM to 9:45PM then the signal died. I am not sprint so have no explanation why it went away. I confirmed that it was not a wireless connection..it was in fact 4g. Sprint, when is it coming to the rest of Hampton Roads?
Have you tried to tether with wimax? if so what speeds do you get? The reason I ask is because while downtown i connected to 4g, turned on tethering, then connected with my ipad 2. i was getting crappy crappy speeds like 200k while on the phone i was getting 7mb simultaneously
Taken by Church St & 28th in Norfolk this afternoon:
Test Date: Apr 29, 2011 1:09:56 pm
Connection Type: EvdoA
Server: Richmond, VA
Download: 5187 kbps
Upload: 931 kbps
Ping: 200 ms
4G is in parts newport news, norfolk, and of virginia beach. If you can download the sensorly app (in the android market) and find the spots.
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4G is in parts newport news, norfolk, and of virginia beach. If you can download the sensorly app (in the android market) and find the spots.
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Or you can look at Clearwire's coverage map. As of today on the Peninsula it shows Clearwire / Sprint 4G coverage in parts of Williamsburg, Gloucester, and Newport News. In SHR it looks like there's some coverage around downtown Norfolk and in Virginia Beach (around Town Center and Oceana).

Results from real-world testing 4G: Verizon LTE vs. Sprint WiMAX in NYC

So watching this video inspired me to do a little real-world field testing.
I just got out of the Verizon store by Grand Central in NYC.
This is disappointing, because I was pricing out the Thunderbolt all day and almost signed up.
Side to side, Sprint beat Verizon at least 75% of the time. It was always 2-4MBps faster on the download (~8MBps vs ~4MBps or so). The other 25% of the time that Verizon was faster it was about 1MBps or less.
I checked coverage maps before I did this and Verizon has full dark red 4G coverage all over NYC, so it should be as fast as it can get. And I can't imagine there's a lot of congestion on their network the day after the phone came out.
Sprint on the other hand has only light green coverage (not dark green "best") in that area. Again, I was inside the store so LTE should have had the edge.
The latencies were comparable, both around 110ms. The only part that blew me away was Verizon's upload speed, about 38MBps compared to Sprint's 1MBps. But as we all know download is more important than upload.
Sorry to say, but LTE isn't all that it's cracked up to be, at least when and where I checked it for myself. Surprisingly, Sprint seems to hold the crown for 4G speeds at the moment.
The problem is as always talked about - the fact that WiMAX kills battery and i assume LTE does the same. They need to come up with a way to have these great - high speed options with better battery life or its relatively useless.
I think the problem with wimax is penetration, because I was at the park today in Philadelphia Pa(Center City). and I reached speeds of 8.04 Mbps but when I am at home (South Philadelphia)...I barely get 1.5Mbps...
OPPOSITE here in Chicago. Both had strong signals
Evo got hammered by the T-Bolt repeatedly on site downloads and speedyest apps. Not even close. ONE time in 15 minutes of test Evo beat TBolt and that's because I didn't hit the Url cleanly!
LTE Verizon + TBolt is fastest mobile phone experience to date. By a mile.
Sprint Wimax is a crock.
aph said:
So watching this video inspired me to do a little real-world field testing.
I just got out of the Verizon store by Grand Central in NYC.
This is disappointing, because I was pricing out the Thunderbolt all day and almost signed up.
Side to side, Sprint beat Verizon at least 75% of the time. It was always 2-4MBps faster on the download (~8MBps vs ~4MBps or so). The other 25% of the time that Verizon was faster it was about 1MBps or less.
I checked coverage maps before I did this and Verizon has full dark red 4G coverage all over NYC, so it should be as fast as it can get. And I can't imagine there's a lot of congestion on their network the day after the phone came out.
Sprint on the other hand has only light green coverage (not dark green "best") in that area. Again, I was inside the store so LTE should have had the edge.
The latencies were comparable, both around 110ms. The only part that blew me away was Verizon's upload speed, about 38MBps compared to Sprint's 1MBps. But as we all know download is more important than upload.
Sorry to say, but LTE isn't all that it's cracked up to be, at least when and where I checked it for myself. Surprisingly, Sprint seems to hold the crown for 4G speeds at the moment.
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jonathaflores said:
I think the problem with wimax is penetration, because I was at the park today in Philadelphia Pa(Center City). and I reached speeds of 8.04 Mbps but when I am at home (South Philadelphia)...I barely get 1.5Mbps...
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I was INSIDE the store , a good 20 yards away from any exit
rockky said:
OPPOSITE here in Chicago. Both had strong signals
Evo got hammered by the T-Bolt repeatedly on site downloads and speedyest apps. Not even close. ONE time in 15 minutes of test Evo beat TBolt and that's because I didn't hit the Url cleanly!
LTE Verizon + TBolt is fastest mobile phone experience to date. By a mile.
Sprint Wimax is a crock.
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Appreciate the feedback, but simply not so in NYC. So decidedly very regional.
You didn't get that high of an upload speed. I know your phone says you did, but you didn't. Google it.
Btw id drop sprint for verizon anytime, but the girl won't let me grrr
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
Yay for WiMax, if I paid attention to my networking class correctly, WiMax will be expanding for faster up and download speeds in the next year or so.
twiz0r said:
You didn't get that high of an upload speed. I know your phone says you did, but you didn't. Google it.
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Tried, got a link?
twiz0r said:
Btw id drop sprint for verizon anytime, but the girl won't let me grrr
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I was planning on the same thing today until I ran the tests side by side.
I only get a download speed of about 2.5 MBps and upload of about 1.7 MBps in St. Louis.
And it kicks me off the 4G every 2-3 minutes. My 3G speeds are literally in the 100-200 KB/s range.
It's the most pathetic thing I've ever experienced. Can't believe I've got one of the best phones on the market with speeds as terrible as these.
I tried to download a beer drinking app the other day from my car and it took a good 10 minutes to download.
EDIT: The St. Louis, MO server is 25.80 miles away. My last test just got 107 KB/s download speed. I wish I were exaggerating.
aph said:
Tried, got a link?
I was planning on the same thing today until I ran the tests side by side.
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go to engadget and read their review on the Thunderbolt. They have a report from speedtest.net saying their app doesn't accurately test the upload speed of the phone. An update will be out shortly to fix the issue. I would assume other speed test sites are the same. The phone hooked up to a PC via hotspot produces much slower uploads than the "38" your phone told you it does cause it is tested correctly. All of that info is found in engadgets post.
aph said:
So watching [Link Removed] video inspired me to do a little real-world field testing.
I just got out of the Verizon store by Grand Central in NYC.
This is disappointing, because I was pricing out the Thunderbolt all day and almost signed up.
Side to side, Sprint beat Verizon at least 75% of the time. It was always 2-4MBps faster on the download (~8MBps vs ~4MBps or so). The other 25% of the time that Verizon was faster it was about 1MBps or less.
I checked coverage maps before I did this and Verizon has full dark red 4G coverage all over NYC, so it should be as fast as it can get. And I can't imagine there's a lot of congestion on their network the day after the phone came out.
Sprint on the other hand has only light green coverage (not dark green "best") in that area. Again, I was inside the store so LTE should have had the edge.
The latencies were comparable, both around 110ms. The only part that blew me away was Verizon's upload speed, about 38MBps compared to Sprint's 1MBps. But as we all know download is more important than upload.
Sorry to say, but LTE isn't all that it's cracked up to be, at least when and where I checked it for myself. Surprisingly, Sprint seems to hold the crown for 4G speeds at the moment.
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HAHA thats funny, i was at the same verizon store last week and i had the same results as well.
The things that will condemn Sprint's 4G in competition against Verizon's LTE have more to do with external factors than the technologies themselves.
Here in Houston is a perfect example. This was a debut WiMAX network, but has been largely abandoned (along with a ton of other cities) by Clear in favor of spending on new-market rollouts in places like Hemet, CA (I suppose the buffalo and trailer parks needed 10Mbps down on the go) and building worthless retail locations. The Sprint 4G map shows dead spots at a great many busy intersections here in town, and the Clear map shows no planned expansion to remedy the issue. Even Clear's current developmental floundering is set to come to a grinding halt as Clear runs out of debt capacity. Sprint can't/won't come riding to the rescue for two reasons: (1) Sprint shot its load on the network modernization project in December; (2) Sprint and Clear already had a falling out over the last few billion Clear wasted on retail locations instead of service and coverage upgrades. WiMAX coverage in most locations is unreliable and spotty (Try watching ESPN on Sprint TV next time you are on a highway as a passenger for more than 2 straight minutes) and that will almost assuredly not improve.
The bottom line is that Sprint and Clear have neither means nor unity of purpose required to deliver a solid, reliable nationwide 4G network. Verizon has deep pockets and only 1 management chain to control. Unless Sprint's modernization project is going to be truly revolutionary in what it delivers to the entire Sprint coverage footprint, Sprint's 4G just can't compete long-term against the Verizon money machine. I can already see the Verizon guy walking around with a Thunderbolt everywhere going "Is it streaming in HD now? ... Good." Verizon can and will deliver more dense and reliable 4G coverage than Sprint in the next couple of years.
I'm in Houston and I have a Thunderbolt for test purposes. Speedtests show download speeds of 18-40mb/s consistently, and I've also hit 50 mb/s occasionally. Upload speeds have been proven incorrect on the speedtest app, but when I go to the speedtest website and test uploads are showing 3-4mb/s.
Sprint Wimax doesn't work at my house so I leave it off most of the time. When it does work I normally get 3-5mb/s.
Clear is broke and i don't expect them to do much building out until they find an investor, but I don't see that happening. Tmobile was rumored to have some interest because they needed spectrum, but now with the AT&T deal this isn't gonna happen.
Sprint has signed a deal with Lightsquared and I expect to see LTE sooner rather than later. Lightsquared is backed by a private equity firm (it means they have money). Their goal is to build out a nationwide LTE network and be a wholesaler (unlike Clear who wanted so badly to have a successful retail operation). Sprint is a partner, and Cricket has also signed a deal with them. Sprint's deal with Lightsquared will also allow them to put their equipment on Sprint's towers so this well help with the build out. Previously Sprint wanted Clear to do the same and help coordinate the build out, but Clear refused and wanted to do their own thing. Lightsquared has spectrum I believe in the 1600mhz frequencies so penetration won't be an issue like 2500mhz wimax.
Check out Lightsquared's website for more info. They expect to have some consumer products available the 2nd half of 2011, and they say smartphones from partners in 2012. Everything I've posted I pieced together reading about Sprint and Lightsquared, but I think this makes a lot of sense.

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