[Q] Do APN user details matter? - Networking

Hi there
just a quick question really to see if anyone on here can help. I have a STD O2 data only SIM does it make any difference to speed and/or connectivity if we use different username and passwords?
I'm told to use mobile web and password but web/web seems to give me far better connection.
Is this just me!?
Any help is appreciated
Davek17

Theoretically it shouldn't but...
An APN is the software "front-end" of an hardware physical equipment called a GGSN. The GGSN is the Gateway (that's what the first "G" stands for) between you (your carrier network) and the other networks (Internet to be simple). One GGSN contains a few APN but an APN is located on one and only one GGSN...
The GGSN acts like a kind of firewall (filter users or special traffics or the access to some websites) and sometimes shapes your web page to adapt it to your screen.
So for all these reasons, when you change your APN your web experience can drastically change (speed and aspect of internet pages eg.) On the other hand I'm not aware of different behaviour of the same APN with different credentials (username/password) but it's totally possible. To be really confirmed with different speedtest.net...

I use bypass instead of mobileweb and images are clearer in Opera, nearly Wifi clear.

So that answers the question : the same APN reacts differently with different accounts (and compress differently the pictures)...
Good to know...
Here in France, operators are not working it the same way as far as I know (I don't even put password in my APN config...)

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3G Internet Problems - Vodafone UK

Hi,
I had a quick search but my problem persists, and please forgive me if this is silly, but I'm new to this Windows Mobile Stuff!
I'm trying to get Vodafone Live working on my Exec. I can get to the Vodafone Live homepage but it is text only, there are no photos or any 3G native content/options like video downloads.
I have set my access point as "internet" and username/password fields as "wap" but still no joy. What am I missing?
I know there is a CAB file on the i-mate website with the settings but cause I have the Exec I can't download it, please help!!!!!!
Unfortunately I don't think this can be done.
As with users who converted the v800 into the z800 even with the correct settings Vodafone live no longer recognises the device as 3g-live capable.
They use the HTTP user agent string to tailor the page to the device and if that changes (which it did V800->Z800) to one not currently used by a vodafone supplied device then the basic WAP style plaintext site is offered.
There's no way to spoof the user agent, don't forget the VPA IV isn't out yet, and even when it does arrive the user agent will likely be tweaked by the bespoke firmware, so even then you'll need to flash it with the horrid Vodafone red styling to see the correct Live site...
Incidentally, all you need to do to set up Vodafone 3G is use the APN name 'Internet' - the username and password fields are redundant, they can see the device is on their network and from the HLR I believe will already know you've access to 3G services so you just need to specify which APN you're looking to use.
I have a JJ and a 3G Vodafone SIM. The .cab files are just for the APN setup etc and like you I cant get the Vodafone content. It must have a URL but its not the default Live favorite on my JJ
No, it's the fact that the device passes a string to the webserver containing the identity of the user agent, and Vodafone don't sell a jasjar or an Exec, so don't have pages tailored for it.
Is this situation likely to change when the VDA IV get released?
if the VPA IV has a different user agent string then only if you use the voda firmware or someone works out how to customise them to that degree, otherwise no.
I HAVE XDA EXEC Working On Vodafone 3G & GRPRS
I have this working on my XDA EXEC.
Make Sure your phone is unlocked for Vodafone
Sim.
The access point is "internet" as you said, however the username and password are both "web" not "wap". Leave everything else as default.
tried your suggestion - no luck. i think the APN is for contract vodafone customers. PAYG has a diferent APN.
anyway, when you say it words, are you getting the full live! screens? i can only see the text (very wap looking) screens, and no links to entertainment, which i can see if i use my nokia 6330.

[email protected] or [email protected]

What is the difference is anyone of them better then the other or what is the deal. I have the pda unlimited plan which setting should i use?
An oft asked question (by me, in fact) ... and after much research, it is not clear (to me) that there is one correct response. General consensus seems to be that if the wap.cingular settings work for you, use them and don't worry about it (but you may want to not use "medianet" settings, since those have proxy settings associated with them, and the proxy settings can cause heartburn trying to use wifi and some sites).
Beyond that, purportedly there are some sites that may only work with the isp.cingular setting instead of the wap.cingular setting, but I have not found them (except, at times, the yahoo mail beta site). After much deliberation on the issue, I just use wap.cingular (with no proxy settings) and it works great, and fast.
For some old discussions on the subject, check out these threads:
-- on the cingular forums
-- on these forums
I had great luck on the mediamax plan using wap.cingular without the proxy. I did however find one exception that forced me to switch to isp.cingular and the higher cost unlimited pda connect plan. outlook web access using the html browser did not work well for me with wap.cingular, with or without the proxy. it would log me out every few minutes and I would have to log in again. it seemed to have something to do with network address translation and switching between two towers. not sure, but it is much better using isp.cingular.
this was the only exception I found.
It's all very cloak and dagger isn't it? Gotta love the phone companies: they'll do anything to not give you what you want.
Here's the deal: wap.cingulargprs.com uses a shared address with NAT; isp.cingulargrps.com assigns a public IP. Neither of these plans support inbound Internet traffic to the client (that is, they don't support push). For that you will need an unlimited PDA data plan, convince someone to add a certain feature code to your plan. and then configure the "internet" apn. The downside with going that route is that your PDA is now subject to all of the security risks that any computer with a public Internet address would be at risk for.

Networking GUI: dhcp vs fixed IP, proxy vs no-proxy?

Hi,
Being a mobile device, it gets used in many places, with many WiFi networks.
Setting the various networking parameters involves opening several different setup screens and (often) fiddling around with entering IP addresses, proxies, etc.
Does anyone know of a utility that allows the easy setting of DHCP vs fixed IP, maybe DNS servers and proxy vs no proxy? And, perhaps more importantly, a utility that both does this and remembers the settings for the various networks, allowing a rapid setup on the second and later connections?
Regards,
Geoff.
Sad but am replying to my own message.
Am I the only one that regularly connects to networks with different parameters?
Am still hopeful that someone will know of a utility to store network parameters and allow same to be set with one tap - or someone clever will make such a utility??
Hi Geoff,
No you're not the only one.
Have you found something yet? I could do with the same!
Michael
Here's another vote for such a utility, i'd love to be able to use mine at hoem and work without having to dig through several menus to get there.
What about a CAB install with different settings..
Same here mate. I am looking into XML cab files, that modify your network card settings eg DHCP \ Fixed IP and also changing over the Wireless network settings, eg SSID, WEP Keys etc.
Its easy enough to create a shortcut to a CAB file, and one that just changes a few registry settings operates very quickly.
Yes, its a manual workaround.
Yes a application that detects the loss of one WIFI and attempts you connect the others in your device and then configures the WLan card accordingly (DHCP\Fixed IP etc) would be very handy.
No - I haven't got very far yet, I took the idea from another thread where someone used it to RESTORE their WIFI settings after a cold-reset.
Kudos to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309855
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277727
for putting me on the path..

Exchange + WinMo (multiple APN connectivity issues)

Hi everybody!
I have a little issue using my work's exchanger server connectivity on HTC Touch Pro.
Issue: To access internet, my provider uses their "walled garden" APN, which allows me to access their services & general web.
This APN, however fails to work with Exchange.
To overcome this, they have given me another APN, which allows me to access Exchange/Push & Internet but not their services.
Now, it is really, REALLY annoying have to change APNs every time I need to access different info (web vs. provider's page) and I have not been able to find anywhere to specifically point Active Sync to use the required APN as it only has option for "Internet", which I assume is the generic active access point
Dialling rules also are useless as I'm using HSDPA with no proxy to access web.
Apologies if this is all too confusing and thank you in advance for your assistance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2382465
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440593
Thank you!!!
So I have done that and can have 2 multiple APNs running at the same time!
It seems, however, that both connections have to be "ON" at the same time as when all APN are disconnected, it doesn't chose the correct data account but always the one that is higher on the list.
Is there a way to overcome this - is there a way to prioritise which data account I want to be used first?
Thank you again
LHD said:
Thank you!!!
So I have done that and can have 2 multiple APNs running at the same time!
It seems, however, that both connections have to be "ON" at the same time as when all APN are disconnected, it doesn't chose the correct data account but always the one that is higher on the list.
Is there a way to overcome this - is there a way to prioritise which data account I want to be used first?
Thank you again
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Hi, I have a HTC Kaiser with BlackBerry Connect and I don't have the issues you describe. BBC creates it's own APN which is not used for anything else. In 'Connections' I have 'My ISP' set to use the Vodafone APN I manually defined. Under normal circumstances BBC keeps its own APN connection active, if I open IE or another app that uses the Internet then the Vodafone APN activates and the apps send their traffic over this connection.
One issue I have is that there is no way to disconnect only one APN connection, when you click 'disconnect' both APN connections are closed, however a few seconds later the BBC one reactivates.
EDIT: Sorry, scratch that... For some reason I though you were using BBC - don't ask me why, obviously my brain was wandering elsewhere. But back to your original problem. I don't use Exchange ActiveSync and I don't know if you can configure ActiveSync to use a specific APN like BBC? You might be able to configure the Exchange Servers URL to be in your Exceptions list so it uses your 'My Work Connection' instead of the 'My ISP' and therefore uses a different APN? I am not sure if it would work, but worth trying?
Andy
HTH
Andy

Any way to fully enable wap for applications on x10??

Hey everyone!
i was just wondering if there is any way to enable wap for applications in x10?
we can only use the main browser through wap...!
we can't use timescape or facebook or ebuddy or marketplace, track id or any other application.
any solution for this?
Thanks
By WAP you mean GPRS connection right? I'm using it for everything except Youtube when WiFi off
Have you set the GPRS setting? Or just do auto settings under mobile network settings?
I read on an other forum that there were people who had the same problem.
As I like to buy the x10, I'm really curious what might cause this. Unfortunally I haven't got a reaction on my question.
So I you find a solution, can you post it here?
Thx
holy_reds said:
By WAP you mean GPRS connection right? I'm using it for everything except Youtube when WiFi off
Have you set the GPRS setting? Or just do auto settings under mobile network settings?
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no, by wap i mean wap. Gprs is a complete different thing. In my country GPRS service cost 25$ for 250mb only.
wap is already unlimited for 5$ only. And i was using wap connection on my iphone (browser, opera mini, push/email, ebuddy, marketplace/itunes).
Now i cant use WAP with any of these applications! only the default browser is enabled. any solution ? :s
GPRS is a connection type, like WCDMA or CSM.
WAP is more like HTML, a data type. The default android browser can't display WAP formatted pages.
Do you mean dial up internet?
Wap is a gprs connection that uses a proxy server with a port: 80 or 8080
it is clear now ?
Shady.ak said:
Now i cant use WAP with any of these applications! only the default browser is enabled. any solution ? :s
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If you are with Rogers would you mind giving me a hand how to set it up for WAP on the default browser? Just a list of the settings will do. I tried different APN settings from various online sources and the settings from my old W810 but I couldn't even get browsing to work! I tried setting Opera Mini to use HTTP instead and of course nothing works. The unlimited browsing only plan I have is simply a waste at the moment. Thanks!
EDIT: after trying a few things I was able to get the default browser working... but no, the other apps don't work with WAP... not even if I set Opera Mini to use HTTP.
ok, i was having this problem too and i found a way around it.
you have to go to your APNs and edit the APN you are using.
go to the port tag (should be labeled as 80) and erase it making it blank.
save>restart your phone, everything should work fine.
iphonepimp said:
ok, i was having this problem too and i found a way around it.
you have to go to your APNs and edit the APN you are using.
go to the port tag (should be labeled as 80) and erase it making it blank.
save>restart your phone, everything should work fine.
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Tried this and only the default browser works...
I have experienced the same issues as described above,
if the default browser is working correctly however stand alone apps fail it may be the APN used has restrictions disabling the use of non-browser data traffic, commonly networks will have a minimum of 3 APNs, e.g WAP, MMS, and Internet.
On this basis I would recommend you ask you provider for the details of thier internet APN (commonly used when using your phone as a modem or email account access) and test accordingly.. if everything works this would confirm restrictions are in place, and a requirement to use an unrestricted APN for full functionality.
As noted different APNs may have differnt charging structures, hence the limitations sometimes when using wap apn access.
iphonepimp said:
go to the port tag (should be labeled as 80) and erase it making it blank.
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The port for my APN (Japanese version) was left blank by default, but I couldn't access my hosted email and website on the X10. Every other website and email worked fine. When I added 80 as the port, I can now access my hosted email and website without a problem.
I'm happy that this seems to have fixed it, but does anybody know why setting the port to 80 worked for me but gave problems for others?
had simualr problem ... calt my x1 support they said that i need to turn on roaming and then it workt .. this is becouse i use tele2 and they dont have there own network they only rent it from netcom so you need to turn on roaming that can be found in settings >wirreles network>mobile network (can have aother name ..my mobile is in norwegiang .. )try that,

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