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Roms, Kernal Patches, etc.

Alright lets get the record straight. Has anyone tried the kernal patch that puts your mem on a partition on the sd card. Supposidly this boosts performance out of this world. Please post here if you have tried this.
Secondly, we need to attract some developers. I'm willing to donate if anyone wants to code for us. We got a great user base and a really good product. Im conviced the captivate is by far one of the better phones from the galaxy s lineup. If any one knows some developers, introduce them tot his godly beast and let them know there are people out here willing to pay for good quality fixes and roms.
I was thinkin about asking for help from the guys running international s. We could post and ask in the xda area and also modaco and androidforums which have big communities as well.
Any other ideas on how to attract developers? Post here.

systoxity said:
Alright lets get the record straight. Has anyone tried the kernal patch that puts your mem on a partition on the sd card. Supposidly this boosts performance out of this world. Please post here if you have tried this.
Secondly, we need to attract some developers. I'm willing to donate if anyone wants to code for us. We got a great user base and a really good product. Im conviced the captivate is by far one of the better phones from the galaxy s lineup. If any one knows some developers, introduce them tot his godly beast and let them know there are people out here willing to pay for good quality fixes and roms.
I was thinkin about asking for help from the guys running international s. We could post and ask in the xda area and also modaco and androidforums which have big communities as well.
Any other ideas on how to attract developers? Post here.
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I'm down to donate as well and do anything I can to add to the cause. I really hope this phone takes off cause it is great. I think we have a good chance that a lot of the N1 devs might just come over to this phone and if not they should be getting the Vibrant and I doubt that it will be much trouble to port over to Captivate.

Err why is it better lol? all the samsung galaxy S phones are exacly the same internaly...none its better than the other, the only difrence is the lack of flash/camera and keyboard from the other variants.

rafyvitto said:
Err why is it better lol? all the samsung galaxy S phones are exacly the same internaly...none its better than the other, the only difrence is the lack of flash/camera and keyboard from the other variants.
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Image, Image, Image. If the galaxy lineup were real life siblings, the captivate would be the only one going to the prom. It also sports fewer gps issues than the vibrant and galaxy s. Ive also seen way less people complain about lag in these forums than the ones for the vibrant and galaxy s (and we have more viewers here than on the vibrant page).
When devs see this device they should be seeing potential.

systoxity said:
Image, Image, Image. If the galaxy lineup were real life siblings, the captivate would be the only one going to the prom. It also sports fewer gps issues than the vibrant and galaxy s. Ive also seen way less people complain about lag in these forums than the ones for the vibrant and galaxy s (and we have more viewers here than on the vibrant page).
When devs see this device they should be seeing potential.
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All of these so called "issues' are software based, its samsung ****ty touchwiz UI that lags like ****ing hell, not the device hardware, and yes i do agree that the captivate is the sexiest of them all.

Im pretty sure it would be painless to port over Vibrant or Galaxy S fixes to the Captivate. Internally they are the same except for a few minor differences like rafyvitto said which wouldn't be that hard to fix. I'm brushing up on my Java skills and learning about the internals of Android right now. Ive been a iPhone person for a while. Hopefully soon I can be of some help and get hacking on Captivate. From what I've seen and read we have a good phone to develop for because its easily rooted and has an unlocked bootloader. I've also heard that the drivers for the Galaxy S lineup are encrypted, but I haven't seen any confirmation of that. What we need is a dump of the current ROM and also we need a better recovery system like Amon_RA's recovery. The source for his recovery system is on GitHub so we could try and port it over to the Galaxy S lineup.

shouldnt samsung be releasing source for drivers any day now? I thought the word around town was that they were being open with the community on this jazz.

systoxity said:
shouldnt samsung be releasing source for drivers any day now? I thought the word around town was that they were being open with the community on this jazz.
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They have already released the source code for the Galaxy S here. They don't have to release the source for the drivers because they are proprietary, but from what ive read the binaries for the drivers are in that download so all someone would have to do in link them in. I just don't know if the drivers are encrypted meaning that it has to be an official samsung ROM for them to work. Hopefully not because that would make cooking new ROMs a hell of alot easier.

we should ask the modaco guys for help and info. I dont think we can use the source or drivers from the galaxy s international. I think someone tried doing stuff that way and bricked.
i could be wrong tho

Would also be willing to donate to the cause. The only reason I didn't buy an iPhone 4 is the developers for this phone.

@wesgarner is on the CyanogenMod team / TeamDouche and has ordered a Vibrant.
We might be able to encourage him to port the latest CyanogenMod build once he has the Vibrant's build completed.
He purchased a Vibrant and I think a laptop to do the work. I've already sent him an email about being a beta tester for the Captivate.
Just remember the devs have a life outside of working on phones! Don't ask for timelines - whether you donate or not!
Wes is working on a port for the slide and then he'll be working on the Vibrant.
While the hardware is similar - the software isn't exactly the same. I was messing around with the MMS.apk today and tried to replace my corrupted one with the one from the Vibrant - did NOT work.
Also, the device is capable of having a REAL FMRadio. The Euro versions have an FMradio.apk. I pushed it to the Captivate - but, the Captivate will need the drivers (to build into a kernal) for the FMRadio to work. But, this is entirely possible.
So, yes the hardware is basically the same or similar - it won't necessarily easy. If any of you remember, LOL - this will be akin to porting the N1 build over to the Desire - I think.

The first thing to go should be that awful samsung UI lol. I think the challenge will be porting ROMs for all these different Galaxy S models. I saw this coming when I read the device would make it to all four major carriers in the US plus.

thanks shane, i also heard another dev recently purchased a captivate, do you know anything about this? i'd like to support his endeavors.

Yea I read over in the Vibrant forums that a dev just got a captivate and is working on a recovery. They also have wes working on the Vibrant so hopefully they get cookin on some ROMs. It won't be that much of a hassle to port them over to the captivate. I would advise not fooling around too much with your phone because someone has already messed up his/her phone. They will either have to take it into ATT store and replace it or wait for a dump of the original ROM to come out.

I have tired the MoDaCo rom and it does (kinda - not brick) work with the SGH-I897 (captivate model), I was able to use it to remove the ATT crapware and nearly everything seems to be working. Phone reports its self as Model Number: GT-I9000 in the about phone tab.
One very IMPORTANT problem - I am having difficulty making outgoing phone calls.
Things that I can confirm work:
Bluetooth file transfer
3g data
GSM phone calls (incoming calls work)
Camera
Audible app, pandora ect.
SMS outgoing and incoming messages
Pretty much everything I have tested on the phone except making outgoing phone calls (important as it is a phone after all). So DON'T use this ROM yet, and if you do make a backup.
Hope this helps.

[Q] When will the official samsung update come?... and more.

Yes iknow it is impossible to answer, but since this is my first samsung device i have no clue how they do this, do they normaly release small software updates often, or few big ones a while?
Seing that P1000XXJM6 is leaked ( im all new on the galaxy tab forum, might be a newer one) makes me think that samsung will soon release a update with the changes?
i mean they cant wait for the android 2.3 update can they? If browser problems have been fixed and so on then i really want to root and get the newest version asap, but if i could wait a few weeks and get a official one, then i would.
If i start rooting and all, should i then feel safe about the future of my device, in other words, if samsung releases official firmware, will i be able to get it through xda? ( my guess is, yes but i would love an answer anyway)

let me say it like this:
do you really think if there is an official 2.3 released before some inofficial leaks will hit the ground? i don´t think so. anyway, if you are able to install a leak, for sure you will be able to install new official......
so why wait?

Dude that was not what i said. I was just. Wondering about samsung would release a update soon since there is this much improved new version out i mean wouldn't that make sense?
Well i wanna root and go custom but i see so many with problems and it seems like some loose features aswell like phone? Just want to have prober firmware on my tab and i thought that the whole root and flash thing would get better, safer and more polished? Maybe im all wrong, just through things where so much easier in the winmo days, maybe i just need to adapt, and get into it.
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if you think something makes sense, then wait...
if you have no experience with android flashing firmwares and/or rooting so you have to choose between staying "legal" and waiting with kies that samsung releases and you learn nothing as trust in big god samsung, or
-> you read 2 days and when you have it clear just try. you can go out as loser with a totally bricked tab or you win and have newer firmware and perhaps also more "freedom" on your device.
but if you choose the first way-> you will never know what it is and just keep talking about problems THE OTHERS has, dude.....
i could solve every described problem til now, because in this forum you find a lot of answers if you´re patiently reading and looking for......

Thanks for answering, just did not like your tone, i HAVE read most of the important treads and it is still not totally clear to me since there is so many different responses and you say you can solve everything while rooted, well, i really doubt that, i am not stupid neither naive.
Just wanted to know how Samsung usually did it with updates to their phones ( now tablet). Did not want a lecture, since i do not really need one, or at least not like that
Like i wrote i was thinking of rooting, but i was just wondering if i could expect Samsung to do updates to fix bugs in the nearest future, since the firmware version is already out there or if i might wait til thier 2.3 update to get anything.
I did not mean to be rude btw sorry if it came out that way.

[Q] Not overclocked yet.

Hey devs,
I wondered.. Why aren't there any overclocked kernels out there yet? Surely we want this baby to run as it should with a nice overclock. I mean, after seeing the news of the Xoom beeing overclocked to 1.7Ghz I kind of got disapointed with there not beeing any progress here yet.
Why is that? Isn't it possible to make custom kernels yet? Is it hard to do something like that? Or is the device just not populair enough so noone is buying this thing.
I quite like the device but I feel it is a bit quiet in here, also find that the software on the device could use loads of improvement (already made some speed improvements myself)
I would gladly be donating to anyone who comes up with some good software or kernels

I didn't read your entire post but..
we don't have the kernel source yet. samsung should be releasing it soon.. probably when the tab is released in the US.

smaskell said:
I didn't read your entire post but..
we don't have the kernel source yet. samsung should be releasing it soon.. probably when the tab is released in the US.
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How stupid of me. I thought it would just be as easy as making a backup of your files and then using these files and edit them. I haven't said anything then, can't wait for this thing to bbe overclocked.

[Q] Kernel update/modification

I finally decided to ask a question that's been bugging me for a few days now, with all android development going around in a very impressive pace.
Now I am completly new to kernel concept so don't me too harsh if I said something wrong.
The question: Isn't there really a way to modify/update our kernel since we have locked bootloader?
As far as I understood, most of us are running ICS UI on top of GB kernel (even some on top of Froyo kernel) but this does not give us the advantage of running ICS on it full force and take full advantage of your harware.
I know Endless7 had a method to downgrade kernel, and I thought may be there can be a similar way to upgrade it.
With JB just around the corner, that would be a great improvement IMHO for our device.

Megalith27 said:
I finally decided to ask a question that's been bugging me for a few days now, with all android development going around in a very impressive pace.
Now I am completly new to kernel concept so don't me too harsh if I said something wrong.
The question: Isn't there really a way to modify/update our kernel since we have locked bootloader?
As far as I understood, most of us are running ICS UI on top of GB kernel (even some on top of Froyo kernel) but this does not give us the advantage of running ICS on it full force and take full advantage of your harware.
I know Endless7 had a method to downgrade kernel, and I thought may be there can be a similar way to upgrade it.
With JB just around the corner, that would be a great improvement IMHO for our device.
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I'm no expert but I think this has to be done by motorola, since the kernel is the one responsible for the hardware management, and given the bootloader is locked we can't put custom kernels in our phone

Caesarivs said:
I'm no expert but I think this has to be done by motorola, since the kernel is the one responsible for the hardware management, and given the bootloader is locked we can't put custom kernels in our phone
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Thanks for the reply. I do realize that and as Moto stated clearly that MS2 will not see official ICS there is not hope to get it from Moto.
But I thought maybe it can be ported from other device, or some modules, which share same CPU.
I am pretty sure our devs have looked into this but since we even got HWA working lol anything is possible these days.

There is a new bootloader hijacker called kexec which allows loading custom kernels. Hashcode is doing it for the Droid 3, and if I'm not wrong, it's designed specially for Motorola Phones with locked bootloaders. But you have to implement new drivers for video and such, so it's a lot of work.
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Megalith27 said:
Thanks for the reply. I do realize that and as Moto stated clearly that MS2 will not see official ICS there is not hope to get it from Moto.
But I thought maybe it can be ported from other device, or some modules, which share same CPU.
I am pretty sure our devs have looked into this but since we even got HWA working lol anything is possible these days.
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The problem is that it's not *only* a "same cpu" problem, it's the whole hardware solution.... camera, sound, gpu, and so on.
It's one of the reasons the dev on MS2 is so "slow", with the locked bootloader, non support from Motorola, the multiple versions (Droid2/Droid2 Global, MS2 EU/CH/NA and so on), getting the hardware to work (specially with newer android like ICS/JB is/was a pain, and most of the work was done "porting" those from the Defy/Atrix and so on who have, somewhat, partially the same hardware and can be adapted.
On top of that, changing the kernel as already said would mean to find a security flaw/hole in the bootloader that could be exploited for that.
(the downgrade solution was patched/fixed with the latest european, and now Latin America bootloader/kernel upgrades if i remember well, hence why most europeans who upgraded to the latest OTA don't really have a working CM7, since it requires to flash fixed sbf and other things to make it work (a patched recovery partition i think)).
But really, having the dev (forgot his name, danthingyabak ) getting full HW acceleration, and a working ICS port and pretty much everything working now, while LA and China starts getting remotely the same versions, we might see more develeoppement coming, since it's no longer "region specific" devs. Maybe even one day Droid 2/Droid 2 Global and MS will share the same developpements, who knows (or, maybe by Miracle, now that Google owns Motorola, maybe one day we will see unlocked bootloaders for all phone yeah i'm dreaming ).

What about us now?!
http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-finally-unlocking-bootloaders-for-real-this-time-20120726/

I hope it's true!
PS. But if it's not about us again, we hope that this method will work even be

xenusr said:
I hope it's true!
PS. But if it's not about us again, we hope that this method will work even be
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I think that thing was just a false alarm...or early celebration...
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Looks like we're finally getting there
http://androidcommunity.com/motorol...live-finally-can-unlock-bootloaders-20120817/

[Topic]Can We Expect Lollipop?

I'm wondering.
Since Samsung as of late have been focused on getting everything pushed to Lollipop, do you think we'll see some opinions about an update, or even rumor?
Maybe the full thing, who knows.

im interested too but...... i dont think its ever going to happen. samsung dont seem interested in the device at all anymore.

Given the cameras never even got KitKat it's very doubtful they will get Lollipop

If you ask this to Samsung, I expect them to say this:
"Galaxy Camera?"
"Isn't that that gimmick we released a couple of years ago?"
"An update to lollipop you say? Whahahahaha!"
"No."
But seriously: It never got past 4.1. I seriously doubt they would even consider this device for an update.

Samsung officialy stopped producing the K Zoom and put it EoL
so, no Lollipop or other updates anymore, even for exploit fixing

confirmed: no update

Galaxy camera 2 has stagefright!

Can we get a cyanogenmod build then ?

cantenna said:
Can we get a cyanogenmod build then ?
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If you can get a seasoned developer to work on it, sure. I set up a device tree for the GC200 at https://github.com/AWildColin/android_device_samsung_sf2wifi six months ago. I was trying to encourage some development on it (*cough* @Decad3nce *sneeze*) by getting a custom recovery working, but everything I built and flashed resulted in black screens and I never found a way to troubleshoot exactly what was causing that to happen.
Frankly, I'm not an experienced enough developer. Maybe with a lot more free time, I might get some where, but a custom recovery is still a far cry from a stable CyanogenMod ROM. You're welcome to try though. https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro

mjsztainbok said:
Given the cameras never even got KitKat it's very doubtful they will get Lollipop
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If I'm not mistaken the GalCam1 and GalCamNX never were upgraded from 4.1, and the GalCamNX was an almost $2000 camera. So no, I don't anticipate that Samsung will upgrade to Lolipop.

AWildColin said:
If you can get a seasoned developer to work on it, sure. I set up a device tree for the GC200 at https://github.com/AWildColin/android_device_samsung_sf2wifi six months ago. I was trying to encourage some development on it (*cough* @Decad3nce *sneeze*) by getting a custom recovery working, but everything I built and flashed resulted in black screens and I never found a way to troubleshoot exactly what was causing that to happen.
Frankly, I'm not an experienced enough developer. Maybe with a lot more free time, I might get some where, but a custom recovery is still a far cry from a stable CyanogenMod ROM. You're welcome to try though. https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
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Hi m8, did you ever manage to get a working rom for ekgc-200?

cantenna said:
Hi m8, did you ever manage to get a working rom for ekgc-200?
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Nope. The device tree is still on Github though if anyone wants to mess around.

we really need a Cyanogenmod rom for this camera desperately.. . what people dont seem to realise or care about for some strange reason, this camera has now a nunber of very serious security vulnerability that samsung has not addressed, it is so bad you should not connect to the internet with it.
im going to try to sell mine. pretty pissed with samsung, they never once realeases any security updtes for this camera!