Removing Bloatware with Titanium Backup - Fascinate General

So I tried uninstalling Bing with TB and it went smoothly. I rebooted the phone after and no issues whatsoever. Google is now the default search engine. I have heard from others that deleting the bloatware can have unpredictable results and maybe not allow firmware update when froyo comes out. I am thinking of uninstalling the bloatware using TB and would like to know if anyone has done this and with what result.

dricacho said:
So I tried uninstalling Bing with TB and it went smoothly. I rebooted the phone after and no issues whatsoever. Google is now the default search engine. I have heard from others that deleting the bloatware can have unpredictable results and maybe not allow firmware update when froyo comes out. I am thinking of uninstalling the bloatware using TB and would like to know if anyone has done this and with what result.
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just use the donate version of TB to simply freeze them...this will deactivate them as well as remove them from your apps list so that when it comes time for a OTA update. You simply defrost them and you are good to go.

I was thinking, even if I just uninstall the bloatware, I can always do a factory reset later on to get my phone back to stock. Then I can update to froyo. Will this work??

When you update to froyo it should be in the form of a rom you flash from here. Enjoy your phone and battery life now and freeze all that crap but nothing google.
good day.

dricacho said:
I was thinking, even if I just uninstall the bloatware, I can always do a factory reset later on to get my phone back to stock. Then I can update to froyo. Will this work??
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If I'm not mistaken doing a factory reset will not un freeze apps in TB but I'd you delete them I don't see why they wouldn't return.
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I used TB to back up the apps and system but for some reason it did not back up the bloatware apk's. I ended up using Super Manager. Its got an APK manager app that let's me backup everything, even the bloatware APK's. So now I can reinstall everything when its time to update to froyo.
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[Q] Market disappears on rooted 1.2

Hey all,
Everytime I root my 1.2 device with manual nooter 4.5.6 (haven't tried .18), I get one download out of the Android Market. After that the Market.apk disappears from the system/app directory and I can no longer download apps. The end result of this is that I'm pretty much hosed. I've tried putting SU File Manager on to sideload apps, but it can't installed BusyBox because of the market problem, so no luck with that. I've reproduced this issue at least half a dozen times, using CWR to delete all the user data, re-registering the stock install, and then rooting again.
At this point I'm staying stock until I feel confident I can download more than one app from the market on a rooted device.
So, has anyone else experience anything like this, and if so, is there a solution?
I have this same problem. No solution yet.
It may be related to a download directory bug which has been fixed. I updated to MN4.5.18 over 4.5.6. Everything worked well untill a recent update to 4.5.25. The market crashed again. This issue seems not solved yet. So I had to flash back 4.5.18.
Same here - .18 works very well once you figure out you have to uninstall the apps that want to update and then reinstall clean to remove the chance of bootloops. I was considering doing a complete wipe again and flashing .25, but I've decided to stick it out with .18 until they get squared away.
Overall, MN4.5.18 kicks ass for all intents and purposes, and I'd suggest moving up to that.
mjbelknap said:
.18 works very well once you figure out you have to uninstall the apps that want to update and then reinstall clean to remove the chance of bootloops.
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Can you elaborate on this?
Can ANYONE elaborate on this

Yet another OTA question

I can't complete the ota update to gingerbread because I temprooted with visionary+ and used titanium to uninstall some pre-loaded apps. So, I figured if I reinstalled those apps the update should work, right?
I reinstalled the apps I got rid of except web2go. I found the web2goshortcut.apk and tried to reinstall it but it needs the odex as well. I've searched google for the odex and I can't find it anywhere.
My questions are, will what I'm doing even work and if so does anyone have the web2goshortcut.odex I could snag?
I know I could just factory reset but I'd like to avoid that if I can.
Thanks in advance.
Don't think it has anything to do with the apps you uninstalled. Might have something to do with being temp rooted. Have you tried to uninstall visionary, reboot, and then run update?
Please use the Q&A forum for question as the Q=Question and A=Answers
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Sorry about putting this in the wrong forum.
My phone isn't currently temprooted, I only did that when uninstalling the apps and then I unrooted.
The reason the ota is failing is because I'm getting a status 7 when it tries to update web2go because the app isn't there.
You'll have to put back stock Froyo to get past the error due to removed app and apply the OTA update.
However, if you had used temproot to disable apps only instead of removing them, the OTA updated would've succeeded AND the disabled apps would remain disabled, the setting is retained. So oddly, there's no advantage to removal vs disable except a small space savings, but a real disadvantage to full removal.
From HTC G2 with xda premium.
In retrospect I realize that removing the apps was a bad idea.
So it sounds like you guys are saying reinstalling the apps I removed won't work? If so I'll probably just root my phone instead of getting it back to stock.
Shouldn't matter whether you reinstall missing apps generating errors or the entire OEM ROM. I'd just do whichever is easier. Well, if you replace apps the OTA update will leave all settings, apps etc. as is so there's that to consider.
Thing is for the OTA update to 'think' you have stock Froyo. How you do that is up to you.
From HTC G2 with xda premium.
Wouldn't you have to install those apps back to the system folder? If you delete them, then install from the market, you are turning system apps into user apps... right guys?
He could use the update from the store sd cards, but that would lose all data. Double check that, sorry but I forgot how to fix stock problems a long time ago.
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Market Issues

I've been running EI22 since the first OTA day and I now have an interesting issue. I've tried stock, deodexed, and ACS 3.5 and had no issues. But I switched back to the latest deodexed stock rom and now my market won't update. I can't clear the cache or user data in the applications menu either.
Wouldn't be a big deal but it keeps giving me a network error when I try to go to my apps from the market screen.
Anyone know a fix short of reflashing?
frostedunit said:
I've been running EI22 since the first OTA day and I now have an interesting issue. I've tried stock, deodexed, and ACS 3.5 and had no issues. But I switched back to the latest deodexed stock rom and now my market won't update. I can't clear the cache or user data in the applications menu either.
Wouldn't be a big deal but it keeps giving me a network error when I try to go to my apps from the market screen.
Anyone know a fix short of reflashing?
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Try using Titanium Backup to clear Market data and also in Google Services Framework. Then with 3G on (icon in notification bar) connect to Market (making sure you signed into Gmail the first time). It should connect. If not make sure your ROM didn't delete the SprintAndroidExtensions and Sprint_updater apks.
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Thanks kenny. Clearing the data in Titanium Backup worked. Still took a bit of dirty talk and a few ugly looks to get the market to update though.

[Q] Can't install latest OTA update after unroot

Hey guys,
So I've googled around for this issue but I still have a question that no other thread I've found seems to answer.
A few weeks ago I rooted my Razr M. I froze a couple of the verizon apps (like the google chrome bookmarks) and backed up and deleted the amazon apps, IMDB, and Audible apps with titanium. When the new OTA was released this week I restored and thawed all of those apps, but the OTA wouldn't install. It reached about 1/4 through the bar of Andy and then he would be on his side with the caution sign. The phone would reboot and say that the installation failed. I decided to unroot, thinking that may have been the cause, but I still got the same error. From there I did a factory reset, and I'm still getting the same error.
Here's my question: I saw on a couple threads that a factory reset doesn't restore everything in /system, which is where I'm worried there's a discrepancy that isn't allowing the update. Is there a way to do a harder reset that will completely bring the phone back to stock?
I'm currently on System version 98.12.4.XT907.Verizon.en.US if that helps. Android 4.1.1. Baseband version is SM_BP_1139.000.32.62P.
JadedRescue said:
Hey guys,
So I've googled around for this issue but I still have a question that no other thread I've found seems to answer.
A few weeks ago I rooted my Razr M. I froze a couple of the verizon apps (like the google chrome bookmarks) and backed up and deleted the amazon apps, IMDB, and Audible apps with titanium. When the new OTA was released this week I restored and thawed all of those apps, but the OTA wouldn't install. It reached about 1/4 through the bar of Andy and then he would be on his side with the caution sign. The phone would reboot and say that the installation failed. I decided to unroot, thinking that may have been the cause, but I still got the same error. From there I did a factory reset, and I'm still getting the same error.
Here's my question: I saw on a couple threads that a factory reset doesn't restore everything in /system, which is where I'm worried there's a discrepancy that isn't allowing the update. Is there a way to do a harder reset that will completely bring the phone back to stock?
I'm currently on System version 98.12.4.XT907.Verizon.en.US if that helps. Android 4.1.1. Baseband version is SM_BP_1139.000.32.62P.
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Sounds like you did not defrost those system apps using titanium backup before you factory reset. I would restore from your stock backup and unfreeze those apps with titanium and try the ota again. The OTA checks for certain bloatware apps before it will allow it to install the update.
slogar25 said:
Sounds like you did not defrost those system apps using titanium backup before you factory reset. I would restore from your stock backup and unfreeze those apps with titanium and try the ota again. The OTA checks for certain bloatware apps before it will allow it to install the update.
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I definitely did defrost those apps.
I'm having the same issue. Stops at about 1/4 of the way and then restarts. I'm gonna try it again without my Rogers(non-verizon) sim card and see if it works. Maybe it checks which sim card is being used.
EDIT: Didn't work, sim card irrelevant.
If you really want the ota then why don't you try mattlgroff's utility here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39576818
It will return you back to completely stock with one click and then you should be able to take the ota and reroot unlock if desired
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RSD
vLegend said:
I'm having the same issue. Stops at about 1/4 of the way and then restarts. I'm gonna try it again without my Rogers(non-verizon) sim card and see if it works. Maybe it checks which sim card is being used.
EDIT: Didn't work, sim card irrelevant.
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I tried using Mattlgroff's method (which i'm sure is fine for most) but seems to be geared towards linux users mostly, and I ran into some issues. I have always used RSD to get back to stock and never had an issue. Check it out How To Restore Stock Firmware on Razr M. This will hard restore your phone to the factory image, as well as unroot it, no need to unfreeze or reinstall bloat. It will also obviously erase the internal SD card contents so make sure you back those up.
Yeah looks like slogar25 and cliMAKtic are right. I tried a few more things and its not working. I'll do an rsd in the next couple days and try the ota again.
I'm going to try rsd sometime tonight, I'll let everyone know how it goes. Thanks for all the help!!
I like rsd too. The point is to return too stock.
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Same issue, stops 1/4 of the way through.
Flashing back to stock with the RAZR M utility 1.10 once my phone hits 100% battery (at 93% now). Will let you know if I can take the update after.
Keep in mind
RSD is great to get back to clean stock, but keep in mind that it will remove your root. After taking the OTA update, you will be running firmware v4.1.2. If you used MotoFail2Go exploit to root your phone originally you should note that the exploit apparently does not work for the updated firmware. Instead you should use motochopper, an updated exploit that works on 4.1.2 to root your phone, developed by Drjbliss over at Droidrzr.
I honestly don't care too much about being unrooted at this point anyway, having root wasn't doing too much for me. I managed to get back to the original stock ICS using RSD and everything worked out! Downloaded one update to 4.1.1, then the second update to 4.1.2, and everything went swimmingly.
Thank you so much for all your help everyone!

S-Voice crashing

Has anyone else had an issue with s-voice not working? Mine opens fine, takes the voice command, acknowledges it, and then black screen and crash. I've rooted and disabled all the AT&T labeled apps in TiBu and that's it. Any input on troubleshooting would be great!
devlmaycry81 said:
Has anyone else had an issue with s-voice not working? Mine opens fine, takes the voice command, acknowledges it, and then black screen and crash. I've rooted and disabled all the AT&T labeled apps in TiBu and that's it. Any input on troubleshooting would be great!
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That's exactly your issue by experience, you can't disable chatOn, somehow it is needed food S voice to work, if you removed them you still need to restore with Kies or Odin, if you didn't remove them, then unfreeze them.
Yeah I had removed them in TiBu and then restored them, but the problems persist. Right after I posted the thread I read another with the same problem. So, right now I'm in the middle of a reset.
devlmaycry81 said:
Yeah I had removed them in TiBu and then restored them, but the problems persist. Right after I posted the thread I read another with the same problem. So, right now I'm in the middle of a reset.
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Tryng to restore them after been removed doesn't work , like I mentioned before, the same happened to me, it seems that once you remove them something gets corrupted in the shared apps and it doesn't get fixed restoring those apps back in order to fox you must restore with Kies or Odin. but don't worry, you won't lose your data, settings and apps, you will get all the original apps back just re-root, and this time just remove the rest but these ones.
erasat said:
Tryng to restore them after been removed doesn't work , like I mentioned before, the same happened to me, it seems that once you remove them something gets corrupted in the shared apps and it doesn't get fixed restoring those apps back in order to fox you must restore with Kies or Odin. but don't worry, you won't lose your data, settings and apps, you will get all the original apps back just re-root, and this time just remove the rest but these ones.
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Cool deal! I'm waiting for the stock rom to DL now so I can odin back to stock... The things I will do for an app to work
Problem fixed with odin back to stock then freezing everything except chatON.
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