Daft question. - XPERIA X10 General

How dose one tell if their X10 is branded or unbranded? (ie generic or not)

I believe you can see that information in Settings>About Phone.

yes there is info there but i dont see where it says branded or not so thats why im asking

Seansmit17 said:
yes there is info there but i dont see where it says branded or not so thats why im asking
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You need to go into the hidden menu. Go to the lock screen. and type in
menu, back, back, menu,back,menu,menu,back
Then go on service info. then model info.

ok, so it says brand, orange so its branded
But there are no orange software or anything on the phone

Seansmit17 said:
ok, so it says brand, orange so its branded
But there are no orange software or anything on the phone
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Unlucky. You can look into debranding. Its what I did. Or you can hope someone hosts the file up.

i had the same problem, debranding is easy its in the decrypted roms thread, download the files let it flash and viola its debranded as it installs a generic firmware onto the phone
about the apps thing, did your phone not have traffic tv or was that just me?

its got traffiv tv ya, thought that was just something sony stuck on there lol

vengeance1990 said:
i had the same problem, debranding is easy its in the decrypted roms thread, download the files let it flash and viola its debranded as it installs a generic firmware onto the phone
about the apps thing, did your phone not have traffic tv or was that just me?
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It voids your warrenty, If you hand the phone into repair and it's running non orange software then they will not repair and and charge you for its returnal.
Though saying that. I handed in a x10 which was on nordic software into a o2 store with a fualty usb port. They replaced the phone. But that might be because they could not turn it on.
Becareful and no the risks before you debrand

hal752 said:
It voids your warrenty, If you hand the phone into repair and it's running non orange software then they will not repair and and charge you for its returnal.
Though saying that. I handed in a x10 which was on nordic software into a o2 store with a fualty usb port. They replaced the phone. But that might be because they could not turn it on.
Becareful and no the risks before you debrand
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I read somewhere here that when you flashed your phone with a official generic version then the warranty won't be voided
here in mexico techs from my carrier are so damn stupid that they won't even notice is not their firmware (just for the record, had an x1 with winmo in spanish, asked them how to change it to english or if they can put the firmware in english, their solution, to change the country settings, seriously they suck)

I have a daft question - If we update to 2.1 can we still hack bootloader if the devs get to it in the near future?
I'd have to assume it remains the same right?

What if it says Customized? Is that branded or debranded?
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New HD2 ROM

I see there is a new ROM out for the HD2
See Here
Only problem is that I'm on o2 so it doesn't allow me to download... Shall wait for the gods to post else where
Neville.Holland said:
I see there is a new ROM out for the HD2
See Here
Only problem is that I'm on o2 so it doesn't allow me to download... Shall wait for the gods to post else where
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They did they did
here
Or.. Get a serial from here, and use it to download it.
I'm on Vodafone UK and the UK ROM upgrade when I put my serial in says it now for my device, I have checked with Vodafone and they say my phone has a custom ROM and I will void my contract/warranty if I use anything but a Vodafone approved ROM upgrade but they aren't putting this one out !!!!!!!
alan1467 said:
I'm on Vodafone UK and the UK ROM upgrade when I put my serial in says it now for my device, I have checked with Vodafone and they say my phone has a custom ROM and I will void my contract/warranty if I use anything but a Vodafone approved ROM upgrade but they aren't putting this one out !!!!!!!
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It will void you warranty with Vodafone, but not with HTC.
Edited to add:
Actually just checked on the Voda site:
"Any updates done outside of the scope of Vodafone UK's officially approved software, or updates done with versions that are not approved by Vodafone (i.e. those not listed on our online updates page or by sending off directly through Vodafone for repair) will invalidate your Vodafone warranty (official releases direct from the manufacturer do not invalidate your warranty).
As such Vodafone will take no responsibility for the fault and warranty cover will not be provided. Vodafone are very careful when approving software versions to make sure they provide the most compatibility with our devices and most importantly our network.
If you're unsure which updates are approved by Vodafone, we recommend that you check with us prior to completing the update. If you choose to de-brand any Vodafone device, this again will automatically void your warranty cover"
When I enter my S/N I get the message
"Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device."
I have an O2 HTC HD2 with 1.42.206.4 (70315) WWE.
Any ideas?
regtee2 said:
When I enter my S/N I get the message
"Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device."
I have an O2 HTC HD2 with 1.42.206.4 (70315) WWE.
Any ideas?
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Updates on the HTC site are for unbranded HTC stock phones only.
The devices are unbranded stock HTC devices. The ROM's on the devices from Vodafone (at least) have no customisation at all.
However HTC has assigned blocks of SN's to various operators and as such those SN's are automatically blocked from updating direct from HTC due to the normal operator/manufacture ROM upgrade agreements that allow the operator to control what updates its customers are allowed.
On a software level the upgrade thats on the HTC website will be identical to the one that the operator authorises but we are just having to wait for red tape.
It's because your phone "mother tong" is not the same as the one from the new ROM. use a Gold Card (see on the stickies on this forum)
will i need a goldcard to get this on my o2 hd2 leo??
Will installing a new rom erase all my reg tweaks?
Guitarfreak26 said:
Will installing a new rom erase all my reg tweaks?
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Yes it will
Ah well wont take long to them again lol..
You know on the share thread it as a TUR rom which i guess is turkish.. will it still function like my english rom when i change the language or w.e?
Since vodafone are apparently not selling this device anymore will they release the firmware update?
Isadora said:
It will void you warranty with Vodafone, but not with HTC.
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Actually just checked on the Voda site:
"Any updates done outside of the scope of Vodafone UK's officially approved software, or updates done with versions that are not approved by Vodafone (i.e. those not listed on our online updates page or by sending off directly through Vodafone for repair) will invalidate your Vodafone warranty (official releases direct from the manufacturer do not invalidate your warranty).
As such Vodafone will take no responsibility for the fault and warranty cover will not be provided. Vodafone are very careful when approving software versions to make sure they provide the most compatibility with our devices and most importantly our network.
If you're unsure which updates are approved by Vodafone, we recommend that you check with us prior to completing the update. If you choose to de-brand any Vodafone device, this again will automatically void your warranty cover"
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Still not sure what this means exactly
As it is an "official releases direct from the manufacturer" can I download it and put it on even without voiding my warranty?
I can't actually do this because by S/N is a vodafone S/N which are blacklisted by HTC at the moment.
charliebarter said:
Still not sure what this means exactly
As it is an "official releases direct from the manufacturer" can I download it and put it on even without voiding my warrenty?
I can't actually do this because by S/N is a vodafone S/N which are blacklisted by HTC at the moment.
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You'd be debranding your phone if you applied this update. According to the last sentence in Isadora's quote that will void your warranty.
Customers such as yourself are in a difficult situation though because Vodafone aren't likely to provide much support for this phone now that they've stopped selling it. Having said that, in my experience most phone companies are pretty hopeless when it comes to releasing firmware updates regardless of whether the phone is "important" to them or not. I'd give up on waiting for official updates if I were you and just debrand.
Thanks, do i still get any HTC warranty?
jakem said:
You'd be debranding your phone if you applied this update. According to the last sentence in Isadora's quote that will void your warranty.
Customers such as yourself are in a difficult situation though because Vodafone aren't likely to provide much support for this phone now that they've stopped selling it. Having said that, in my experience most phone companies are pretty hopeless when it comes to releasing firmware updates regardless of whether the phone is "important" to them or not. I'd give up on waiting for official updates if I were you and just debrand.
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I have to say that the wording on Voda's site is a bit confusing (what a surprise... ) as they seem to imply that manufactuers updates are ok "official releases direct from the manufacturer do not invalidate your warranty" but not debranding "If you choose to de-brand any Vodafone device, this again will automatically void your warranty cover" so do they mean only cooked roms will void the warranty? In any case as you've rightly pointly out, their support of the HD2 is probably going to be minimal now and I, for one, will happily flash away
charliebarter said:
Thanks, do i still get any HTC warranty?
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Yes as long as you have an official HTC ROM on the phone. However even if you've got a cooked one from here (when they're available!) and say you need to get HTC to repair your phone, just re-flash an official one on before sending it to them and you should be ok
I know flashing the ROM will erase every modification I've made to my device over the past few weeks but was wondering if I backed up my device with SPB will I be able to restore to the newer ROM version?

Orange UK branding

i got my x10i on contract with orange a few weeks ago im not sure what version i was on upon recievership but i did update it to 020
now im struggling to find any orange branding on the device and this leads me to a question
normally handsets are carrier locked and updates come to us via carrier
but since i can use seus and the pc companion im assuming the device isnt locked
but i cant seem to get the 026 update ive tried the pc companion and seus and im getting nothing nor by ota
i also had a glance at the updates by country and i saw orange isnt listed as a carrier
just 3 vodafone generic and another one
anyone goit any clues??
its not so much the update im after ity more the clarification as to when i get them
ie do i get it when sony ericcson say so or do i have to wait
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but since i can use seus and the pc companion im assuming the device isnt locked
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I've read some branded handsets are and some aren't, so it could just be the luck of the draw, but I assumed SEUS would just flash newer carrier firmware anyway so doesn't necessarily mean it isn't locked.
well ive waited and waited and still havent got the newest update has anyone else got the x10 on stock orange non rooted software and have been issued the newest update ive tried all the normal ways
-PiLoT- said:
well ive waited and waited and still havent got the newest update has anyone else got the x10 on stock orange non rooted software and have been issued the newest update ive tried all the normal ways
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Try running the "repair" method using SEUS if you haven't already, as I've seen some report that that has updated the handset to a newer firmware despite SEUS saying it's up to date.
XperiaX10iUser said:
Try running the "repair" method using SEUS if you haven't already, as I've seen some report that that has updated the handset to a newer firmware despite SEUS saying it's up to date.
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This is true but be warned if you do an update using the repair service in PC companion you may loose apps, I did.
Also found some of them missing from the market so I reflashed to generic 016 and tried again using SEUS I download from the Sony Ericsson support website and this time I didn't loose any apps.
Where did you get your X10i? If it was Carphone Warehouse then it won't be sim locked or branded, otherwise I would imagine it's branded. I'm not sure if Orange have released the recent firmware update as my X10 was with Vodafone but is now unbranded, if you don't want to wait for Orange de-brand your phone.
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well igot it from orange over the phone upgrade but i cant se any branding at all on the phone
rather not de brand
i can wait im just womdering if all orange users
The Orange var are orange locked, no intrusive branding but it has a Custom version number. If you use the Debrand method then you will no longer have the issue as it makes it a Generic UK spec but with an Orange sim lock.
(PS i work for a large UK Telecom retail company and so you can trust this info 110%)
well i understand but that would also
a, invalidate my warrantly
b, not let me update via seus
like i say i dont mind the wait but i see nearly every one get it but im wondering if orange is behind or its my phone
also i still didnt get 023
First yes de-branding would invalidate your warranty but you would still be able to update using SEUS, you'd only be exchanging the minimally branded Orange firmware for generic UK firmware.
As for Orange being slow, I wouldn't worry about it as far as I'm aware O2 users don't even have the R2BA020 update!
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okee dokkee debradning it is

Differences between Unlocked Device from Factory vs Unlocked via IMEI code

Hello,
I'm planning to buy a DHD but I can have it from expansys Factory unlocked or from a Mobile Operator Company and then unlocked via IMEI code, my question is is any difference? or advantage or if I unlock the DHD at the end both of them will be exactly the same functionality?
Thanks and sorry for my silly question
Marioaguado said:
Hello,
I'm planning to buy a DHD but I can have it from expansys Factory unlocked or from a Mobile Operator Company and then unlocked via IMEI code, my question is is any difference? or advantage or if I unlock the DHD at the end both of them will be exactly the same functionality?
Thanks and sorry for my silly question
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The only difference would be whether the mobile operator has put on branding on the software.
sorry but what it means put on branding? like what? Thanks
Marioaguado said:
sorry but what it means put on branding? like what? Thanks
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like a stupid bootlogo, like silly "apps" that just link to their website, etc - BLOATWARE
Ok thanks, but at the end I will receive the updates via HTC no from the Operator?
Thanks guys
from my experience with sony erricsons, there is a "license" within the phones software which determines the unlock status with a red license being in a locked state, blue being factory unlocked, brown being reasearch and development, etc
i dont know if its the same thing, or if it is an analygous system with androids
If you have an Orange branded DHD, for example, you would normally have to wait for Orange to issue an update.
Android Release Timeline
Google --Develop--> HTC --Modify--> Orange --Ruin--> You
However, if you root your DHD, S-OFF & flash custom recovery you will get updates much quicker, albeit officially unsupported by HTC.
Marioaguado said:
Ok thanks, but at the end I will receive the updates via HTC no from the Operator?
Thanks guys
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With the Touch HD (WM device) the updates for the IMEI unlocked phones had to be from the operator and not from HTC. Maybe it's the same with Android phones...
tkolev said:
With the Touch HD (WM device) the updates for the IMEI unlocked phones had to be from the operator and not from HTC. Maybe it's the same with Android phones...
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They come from the operator once they have modified the stock HTC ROMs. So if you buy from a network operator and the phone is branded, you will most probably have to wait for updates, unless you debrand it.
I am buying a New SGS 2, the seller has told me that its factory Unlocked, but I have my doubts that he has De-branded the phone and selling with the name of Factory Unlocked.
Can someone tell me, how would I know if the Seller has Sold me a Debranded phone or a factory Unlocked one?
1.) don't necro threads
2.) this is the DHD forum, it would be better if you post in the SGS2 forum.
btt:
when you use it, there won't be any difference between the factory unlocked and debranded, since you put a factory unlocked ROM on your phone when you debrand it.
BUT it's possible that your warranty is void now since modifying the software isn't covered by warranty. but i'm not sure about that.

Removing branded start-up logo? (Samsung Omnia 7)

Hi all, new here
I'm in Australia with the Samsung Omnia 7.
I bought phone online from someone who won it in an Optus competition (Optus being the carrier here).
The phone is unlocked to any network but for about 3-5 seconds upon the phones startup, there is a branded Optus logo that is displayed.
I want it GONE.
What's the best way to do this? I'm running the original firmware, not the new leaked one. I'm also not game to flash to the leaked newer firmware as Samsung hasn't released it officially and I've heard some Aussies have had some issues after doing it.
What's the safest way I can remove this start-up logo branding? Thanks!
change to a different firmware, vol up+camera+power button > download mode> samfirmwares.com firmware(unbranded)! Thats currently the only possibility.
What about by editing a registry entry or something?
I'm not prepared to "upgrade" to that firmware until Samsung releases it (if they do).
They probably haven't for a reason.
try chevron unlocker, install registry explorer search and share!
Is chevron unlocker going to change something about my device I can't reverse? I want full control of any testing I do.
sorry for late reply, the firmware file consists of lot parts (Phone, csc,eboot,pda), modifying a specific file in the archive may remove the startup logo.Just search wiki for answers about the significance of each part.Or better still, wait for the update release by MS see if it changes anything! Chevron won't help!
Most users have upgraded to the firmware available at samfirmware.com I too running omnia 7 t-mobile uk version unbranded by downloading I8700XENJK1. Have had no issues so far!
Any updates on this with new unlocking methods etc..?
I'd really like that start up pic gone if I can!
Gp. said:
Any updates on this with new unlocking methods etc..?
I'd really like that start up pic gone if I can!
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No, like has already been said, the only way to get rid of this is to re-flash the device. You should be able to only flash parts of it though which would leave the OS (and all apps, settings etc) intact. I'm guessing it's the bootloader image that includes the logo you're seeing, so would start there.
emigrating said:
No, like has already been said, the only way to get rid of this is to re-flash the device. You should be able to only flash parts of it though which would leave the OS (and all apps, settings etc) intact. I'm guessing it's the bootloader image that includes the logo you're seeing, so would start there.
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Do you have anyway to do this? There's no tool I've heard of which can replace specific parts of the ROM?
It's a full reflash or nothing, I think.
Casey
Casey_boy said:
Do you have anyway to do this? There's no tool I've heard of which can replace specific parts of the ROM?
It's a full reflash or nothing, I think.
Casey
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For now it is. Even with WinMo 6.5 we had to flash the 2nd start up screen. Then we had full access to the core of OS. Right now we dont. So only way to get rid of it is to flash a brand free rom issue by samsung and not a carrier
Any updates on this now?
Anyone know a registry key that is associated with the start up logo?
evolutionqy7 said:
For now it is. Even with WinMo 6.5 we had to flash the 2nd start up screen. Then we had full access to the core of OS. Right now we dont. So only way to get rid of it is to flash a brand free rom issue by samsung and not a carrier
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Are you absolutely certain about this? The ROM comes in parts and I would assume we could flash only part 1 or 2 if we so wanted?
Gp. said:
Any updates on this now?
Anyone know a registry key that is associated with the start up logo?
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There IS NO registry key for this. The boot logo is displayed long before the OS has even started booting.
I've also installed the firmware from samfirmware.com and I've had no issues at all. I've managed to update to Pre-NODO and NODO without any pain (apart from having to use the Hungarian Hack to get NODO early).
I've seen no downsides from my perspective.
The only risk I can see is that no carriers will have tested WP7 against this firmware until it's officially released by Samsung.
if you have a 4.10.1.9 bootloader, there's no possibility to change your rom....forget it.
right now, this bootloader fail to upgrade... no download mode ability at omnia 7
mughalgxt said:
change to a different firmware, vol up+camera+power button > download mode> samfirmwares.com firmware(unbranded)! Thats currently the only possibility.
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Hello everyone, Im new to the site. I too purchased, what I thought to be unbranded, a mobile over the internet that was branded with T-Mobile Germany. Im in Australia. I can use my Optus SIM Card. But what was worrying me is what affects a branded phone (especially from another country) would have on me and my usage, especially with the new Mango update.
Now unless someone can tell me that it really doesnt make any difference to how the phone will work, I want it unbranded for safety sake. That being said, my quote above, This firmware, obviously it sounds custom and not official. If I install this firmware, any Windows Update up until this point (Not Mango), will it still install via zune? and will it take on the Mango update when thats out?
Thanks guys
ChisPydtank said:
Now unless someone can tell me that it really doesnt make any difference to how the phone will work, I want it unbranded for safety sake. That being said, my quote above, This firmware, obviously it sounds custom and not official. If I install this firmware, any Windows Update up until this point (Not Mango), will it still install via zune? and will it take on the Mango update when thats out?
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I believe samfirmware just releases leaked firmware. They are therefore all "official" in a sense and the unbranded ones should just be firmware for the unbranded devices.
If you're using a branded phone, the official updates will roll out when the original carrier certifies it. Apart from that and the boot branding, there shouldn't be many differences.
ChisPydtank said:
Hello everyone, Im new to the site. I too purchased, what I thought to be unbranded, a mobile over the internet that was branded with T-Mobile Germany. Im in Australia. I can use my Optus SIM Card. But what was worrying me is what affects a branded phone (especially from another country) would have on me and my usage, especially with the new Mango update.
Now unless someone can tell me that it really doesnt make any difference to how the phone will work, I want it unbranded for safety sake. That being said, my quote above, This firmware, obviously it sounds custom and not official. If I install this firmware, any Windows Update up until this point (Not Mango), will it still install via zune? and will it take on the Mango update when thats out?
Thanks guys
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Branded won't make any difference to your experience. But you can flash the unbranded ROM it's easy enough and you should still get the Mango update.
So?
GP, have you gotten rid of it yet?
Sherwet said:
GP, have you gotten rid of it yet?
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Just flash an unbranded ROM dude, really easy
The second screen, the carrier logo, is simple mologo.bmp file... If you replace it with some file explorer, you are done

[Q] For warranty its ok any RUU or do i need theone from my contry orfrom my carrier

hello,
1 ive saw that for warranty i cant give to htc one wildfire with a custom rom, otherwise they will ban my wildfire from future support thats right?
2 to have supporto i need to restore the phone with a ruu from htc and in this way i will get warranty support, thats right?
3 do i need a ruu from my country or the one exactly from my carrier as i will lose warranty and any support if htc will discover ive changed the ruu on my phone with one different, different language or just with one that is not the one from the carrier who sold the phone to me?
SORRY ive just saw this is the wrong forum, can somebody move to the general one? thanks
1.Yes
2.Yes
3.At the time of purchase if your phone was carrier locked then you should need the carrier RUU.
or else get the RUU for your country.if you cant find one then go for WWE RUU.
actually my phone never had any lock, nor carrier locks. it just had a logo fromthe carrier starting up and didt yet get the froyo update cause the carrier should roll it out and still didnt
does this mean that i could install the wwe ruu generic keeping the warranty support or do i need any italian rom or still i have to install the same carrier ruu otherwise i will lose warranty support?
raniero1 said:
actually my phone never had any lock, nor carrier locks. it just had a logo fromthe carrier starting up and didt yet get the froyo update cause the carrier should roll it out and still didnt
does this mean that i could install the wwe ruu generic keeping the warranty support or do i need any italian rom or still i have to install the same carrier ruu otherwise i will lose warranty support?
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i got mine fixed twice, i installed the india ruu. it wasnt the version it came with though. an older one. but doesnt matter.. they dint even check that.
I'd recommend ur country ruu, if there is one. else wwe. i dont think you lose warranty if you install any htc ruu on ur phone stock.

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