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Htc new answer to evo 30fps limitation..

I sent several complaints to htc and got response from different reps.
Rep#1
"Thank you for your reply. You are correct that the Sprint EVO 4G is locked in at 30FPS. Since the HTC EVO 4G employs a unique HDMI output to deliver video in HD quality to an external display, the hardware graphics driver interface on the HTC EVO 4G uses significant resources for the HDMI output and therefore displays graphics at 30 frames per second on the integrated display. This is a hardware, and not a software, limitation. It’s important to keep in mind that content including most movies and television, are created to run at between 24 and 30 frames per second. The 30FPS is a hardware limitation. This should not present a major issue for most Android applications; however, the customer may have some issues with some 2D or 3D applications. We have also found that some games may be impacted by this limitation.
The device has been locked at 30 FPS due to enhance overall performance in the device. By lowering the FPS of the device the CPU works less. This increases the battery life of the device. There may be third party options available to remove this limitation; however HTC does not condone the use of, support the use of, or offer technical assistance with regard to these third party solutions. I do apologize for any inconvenience you may have experience."
Rep#2
"Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC America Technical Support via E-Mail with your comment regarding the fps of your HTC EVO 4G. I understand how important it is for your device to function to your specifications and I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you.
We are investigating the viability of claims that the limitation of 30fps can be overcome by software changes. As soon as we finish our investigations, HTC will announce its findings. There may be third party options available to remove this limitation; however HTC does not condone the use of, support the use of, or offer technical assistance with regard to these third party solutions.
If we can be of further assistance with setting up your sync program, please don’t hesitate to call 1.866.449.8358. We are available Sunday through Saturday 6:00 a.m. until 1:00."
Its htc really trying to find a solution or are they just full of it?
What do you think?
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Please.... This belongs in the general section.

really really wish mods would temp ban people for this

Jykinturah said:
Please.... This belongs in the general section.
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Sporkman said:
really really wish mods would temp ban people for this
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i feel like this is a development issue thats is why it was posted here so if you are not a moderator and cant help me move it to general. keep it to your self. im just trying to input some info for all the evo owners that are in question by this. " if im worng by putting this here this can always be deleted and posted somewhere else.

Yeah but if you actually read other sections on this site your responses have already been given to other people by HTC. These are not new, we have heard them before. This really should have been rolled in to the other pre existing threads. Why would you not post it in the general section and ask if it should be placed in development? I think I know the answer to my own question....
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Darn, I was hoping it was something new from them.

Wow! People really need to chill out. Why is everyone so easily bent out of shape recently here and at ppcgeeks?
EVO on Tapatalk

mlin said:
Wow! People really need to chill out. Why is everyone so easily bent out of shape recently here and at ppcgeeks?
EVO on Tapatalk
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Do you really want to know?
Well this is a development forum. There is a slightly higher standard here and if you can't follow some basic rules then you have no business posting here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695844
Those are pretty clear to me. Pretty easy to follow for anyone with a brain stem. No one expects perfection or you to write source code the fastest but at least read the ****ing directions and follow the basic rules of our home.
This had no business getting posted in development, it has no business in general when there is a massive 600 something or whatever posts on this exact same crap. Not to mention multiple other scattered threads.
Best part is there is already a hacked solution to this with working camera / everything else working, that at least for now is more than enough. So anyone that really gives a **** already has the fix and this isn't even an issue.

Seriously!!! You ****ing losers need to calm down. You act like its ****ing blasphemy that this poor guy posted in the wrong place. What? Did you waste 10 seconds of your worthless lives reading his post and find something you already knew. Congrats!! If you dont have the power to move it then **** off. So much of this lately.

cpiddy said:
Seriously!!! You ****ing losers need to calm down. You act like its ****ing blasphemy that this poor guy posted in the wrong place. What? Did you waste 10 seconds of your worthless lives reading his post and find something you already knew. Congrats!! If you dont have the power to move it then **** off. So much of this lately.
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I spent 20 seconds Not wasted mind you I knew what was going to ensue after I read the OP's post.
Each and everyone one of you have done this when you are new to a board. You only learn from experience. We were all NOOBS at one point. We didn't graduate to Geekdom overnight.
When I first came on here I was treated like a red-headed step child for not understanding how to ROOT. I read and read and eventually learned how on my own mostly due to the RUDE responses from some of the people who thought they were entitled to treat newcomers like 3rd rate citizens.
I have given my share of smart assed remarks and have called people out on some things. But when someone new posts a relink or asks a question that they could have searched for I just help because its no BIG deal.
Yes you can say they are lazy or perhaps you might have to consider they are new and aren't well versed in searching. Who really knows. If they are repeat offenders then call them out otherwise its just a simple post that anyone can choose to ignore and not contribute.
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I don't think tech knowledge is the issue here and in other threads. I think the issue is forum etiquette. And on a tech/informative forum, the standard should be a little higher than that of a lounge type forum. People should have informative titles (which this one does). Posts should go in the relevant thread (possibly an issue on this one). Searches should be made before making any new thread. And content should be relevant, accurate, and informative (I'm guilty of that first with regards to this post). It can be a delicate balance between over regulation and under regulation. The forums with the highest signal to noise ratio tend to be over regulated but there is such a thing as going too far and pissing off your membership.
There is one forum that I am a member of and have been so for about five years now and I have not made one single post. I am a very outspoken person and I still have not posted there. Why? Because I haven't had anything extremely relevant that will bring knowledge to any of the threads I've seen there and if your post doesn't "bring the tech", you're banned. That's possibly taking it too far but I can say that it is one of the most well behaved, most informative forums I have ever seen. If I just want to hang out and shoot the breeze, I can do so on other forums. So, I just linger and watch, as newbs should do, until I have something to add.

Minjin said:
There is one forum that I am a member of and have been so for about five years now and I have not made one single post. I am a very outspoken person and I still have not posted there. Why? Because I haven't had anything extremely relevant that will bring knowledge to any of the threads I've seen there and if your post doesn't "bring the tech", you're banned. That's possibly taking it too far but I can say that it is one of the most well behaved, most informative forums I have ever seen. If I just want to hang out and shoot the breeze, I can do so on other forums. So, I just linger and watch, as newbs should do, until I have something to add.
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Hahaha... I bet you're talking about elitistjerks.com
Please. Just get over yourselves. It's a good thing that new people are coming to the forums. That means the Android community is growing and moving into more mainstream. Educate and direct people... don't spank them. Otherwise, you'll send them right back to their friendly iPhone forums.

Sounds to me like some 35 year old men need to get out of their moms basement and meet people face to face and learn how to treat others.
Holier than thou attitudes will run people away and along with that the innovation that comes with new ideas. I've been in many environments where a closed loop could not resolve an important issue because they were addressing the issue as they always have. It took someone new looking at the problem, with different experiences, in order to resolve the issue in the best possible way, if you don't like it, or your pride gets hurt, then you probably don't need to be part of the team.
I have also known people who could give Einstein a run for his money, but because they lacked the people skills, they couldn't get in with any major position enough where people would listen, they usually got sent to the corner of R&D and played with obscure possibilities.
As you can tell, I hate arrogance, and because I don't post much in this forum, doesn't mean I can't kick your ass in every other aspect of technology, worldly issues, and life in general.... So put down the mountain dew, and get up out of the basement, and maybe just maybe, you'll find that your high horse isn't high at all.

mrmomoman said:
I spent 20 seconds Not wasted mind you I knew what was going to ensue after I read the OP's post.
Each and everyone one of you have done this when you are new to a board. You only learn from experience. We were all NOOBS at one point. We didn't graduate to Geekdom overnight.
When I first came on here I was treated like a red-headed step child for not understanding how to ROOT. I read and read and eventually learned how on my own mostly due to the RUDE responses from some of the people who thought they were entitled to treat newcomers like 3rd rate citizens.
I have given my share of smart assed remarks and have called people out on some things. But when someone new posts a relink or asks a question that they could have searched for I just help because its no BIG deal.
Yes you can say they are lazy or perhaps you might have to consider they are new and aren't well versed in searching. Who really knows. If they are repeat offenders then call them out otherwise its just a simple post that anyone can choose to ignore and not contribute.
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100% with you, if i can help i will, if i need to call someone out, i will do it too, but not arguing, i just click the "report post button" and that's it. I think there are to many people here that want to be forum moderators and act like one, it's happening a lot lately!

mikevillarroel said:
100% with you, if i can help i will, if i need to call someone out, i will do it too, but not arguing, i just click the "report post button" and that's it. I think there are to many people here that want to be forum moderators and act like one, it's happening a lot lately!
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Some of the pictures of the old school phones brings back memories. Too funny!!

mrmomoman said:
Some of the pictures of the old school phones brings back memories. Too funny!!
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lol, I know, the Teletack 250 was the first cellphone i could afford back in Venezuela 10 years ago or so, the next one whas my first phone here in the states with Voice Stream.

Lol wow... This forum is full of it... Higher standard? On the Internet? Lol....hilarious...

rotflmfao
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720242

Rage Against the Carrier and Samsung Machine

Hey Guys,
Just wanted to share a pretty heated thread over on the Captivate Forum.
Please post your comments and show your support!
We need to band together and stick it to the man!!!
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=958214
Thanks in advance

Your link just takes me to the Captivate > General forum.
I assume you mean this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=958214

I dont get what they are complaining for. They seem to have a ton of roms and devs, which is sure better than some update that is bloated.

If you notice, they're specifically banning the kinds of questions that we XDA users (as opposed to average users who don't know the difference between android 2.1 and 2.2) would like to ask: i.e. "How the hell does it take so long to deliver an update other manufacturers have pumped out in barely five months, even with their modifications".
I'm more inclined to believe that XDA is selling out than anything will actually end up being done...

Advocatus Diaboli said:
If you notice, they're specifically banning the kinds of questions that we XDA users (as opposed to average users who don't know the difference between android 2.1 and 2.2) would like to ask: i.e. "How the hell does it take so long to deliver an update other manufacturers have pumped out in barely five months, even with their modifications".
I'm more inclined to believe that XDA is selling out than anything will actually end up being done...
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If that is the case, I wonder why samsung is even asking for questions on xda forums. They should go to some forum filled with people saying "my phone awesome, whats android 2.2?".

Sorry Guys, wrong link in the OP Edited

Epic dev fallout

Here's my two cents on the issue.
I'm not privvy to all the "behind-the-scenes" info, but I have seen some crap in my time here on XDA, which has solely been in the EPIC community.
Not relevant in all cases, but for instance when BThomas was still kickin' around with Viper, he almost threw in the towel on numerous occasions after anonymous dev\mods with influence or power got butt-hurt and tried to get his work banned. That kind of crap is no doubt one reason why some devs have disappeared, not to mention whatever happened with some of the ACS devs.
No doubt people get all crazed with their interwebz power, get jealous, and try to throw some weight around. Maybe that works in the workforce when people get a paycheck, but the last thing someone wants is for morons to start complaining about how your volunteered time is hurting their ego.
...maybe we need to front the $$$ for a whaaambulance, might clean few things up around here.

I'm leaving here soon! .. But not all is devs crying over a thanks .. Some of us members are part of the reason too!
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dcowboys2184 said:
I'm leaving here soon! .. But not all is devs crying over a thanks .. Some of us members are part of the reason too!
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Its not for a thanks, its for credit.
And a "thanks" is the least you can do to give back.
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dcowboys2184 said:
I'm leaving here soon! .. But not all is devs crying over a thanks .. Some of us members are part of the reason too!
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To be sure, for every one of us that supports by money or time, there are those that choose to piss and moan.
But as was said above, being butt-hurt has little to do with receiving a thanks but the opposite when a thanks is deserved...and also going to silly measures to satisfy your jealousy/ego.
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thanks to the name of the phone all news regarding it is instantly over-sensationalized..
EPIC dev fallout sounds pretty.. uh.. epic

Yeah, it is rather punny =D

Nothing against you MeetFace.. But don't you think we have enough threads about devs. It seems like every week after one falls off the frontpage a new one is started. Adding another one in the General section isn't going to do anything but make more people coming to this forum just move else where. If the Devs get into it with each other we should let them sort it out and not get involved. Besides the Evo section has always been worse than ours..

If had noticed/felt that I was being redundant or "preaching to the choir", I would withheld my remarks.
I don't check the forums as often as I used to, and I check the general section even less, so forgive my lack of noticing what apparently may be a problem. I was merely responding to an issue that was raised in a closed thread, felt like there were some words that needed to be said.
If you think my comments are wrong or misplaced...then you are naive, because I speak of real situations. I won't go into any more detail, but I will say this:
If you can't man up an be civilized, then you should keep your mouth shut, and regardless of your contributions, whether they be developing or support, you are doing a major disservice to a "community" when you try to tear people down in public, instead of trying to build them up.

It's really simple. Adhere to the GPL and the XDA rules against advertising other sites that require registration to download custom ROMS.
A "donation" to obtain access to GPL or similarly licensed code violates the GPL (or the respective license) and will get your ass sued by the FSF. Thusly, linking to a site that violates the law will land XDA in trouble.
RMS would **** bricks over what some of the devs here have done.

I get that, and for those situations, it overrides anything I said here in this thread.
But that's not the whole story in all situations...thus the thread I created.

MeetFace said:
I get that, and for those situations, it overrides anything I said here in this thread.
But that's not the whole story in all situations...thus the thread I created.
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Sorry, I wasn't replying to you. I just want to make it clear the reason why the mods/XDA has reacted to some devs the way they have. It's to cover their own asses from legal repercussions.

No hard feelings, just wanted to clarify that I wasn't implying the above was the case with those types of issues. Didn't mean to sound abrasive, gotta love voice-less text =]
But again, I do agree with, people should follow the rules, people should not take things so personally, and in and open source environment, people should get so selfish.

I fully agree with you. And the loss of emotion and everything else by using text-only is something that completely enrages me when I want to actually talk to my friends who live half-way around the world but they refuse to use webcams or even voice. I've just resorted to telling them to screw off unless they call or video-call me. Far too much meaning is lost otherwise and only causes trouble.

dcowboys2184 said:
I'm leaving here soon! .. But not all is devs crying over a thanks .. Some of us members are part of the reason too!
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You're right. It is some of the members too. The members that bash people because they ask a noob question and feel that they are so far above the person that they have to put them down. There's bullying in this forum and to the point where I've almost stepped in and said something in defense of the person. That kind of **** has no place here, just like the other crap doesnt either.

You'll like this:
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/02/70179
I've read the actual study years back in one of my business classes back at the old University.
This is why you can't take things personally all the time...will save you some butt-hurt =D

I don't really have anything to add to this conversation, but I just wanted to say that "butt-hurt" is my new favorite internet phrase. That is all.

MeetFace said:
You'll like this:
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/02/70179
I've read the actual study years back in one of my business classes back at the old University.
This is why you can't take things personally all the time...will save you some butt-hurt =D
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Or add in a " " and make someones day! Lol
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djbacon06 said:
I don't really have anything to add to this conversation, but I just wanted to say that "butt-hurt" is my new favorite internet phrase. That is all.
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I'll have to admit, your appreciation of my usage of the phrase afforded me not a few audibly deep belly chuckles.
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I started a thread about this a while ago. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002595
I have a slightly different take on all of this. While I'm glad that most of today's issues are resolved these problems will arise again. This whole thing went down today because someone complained about pieces and parts of a developers ROM. Then I got dragged into this because I use the Bonsai kernel that I made NO changes to. Apparently all I had to do was post a link to the Bonsai source code and the problem went away. There are not a lot of us left here in the Epic forums for various and often times preventable reasons.
There is to much inconsistency with how these forums are moderated. Is impaler gone now? I mean it's like one day everything is ok and then the next day it's a problem. In all fairness to the mods they are over worked and simply not paid. Perhaps, xda should think about paying these guys a little something for their efforts. Perhaps XDA is growing to fast for it's own good. I mean in my opinion is quality over quantity.
My other issue is the in-fighting. We have people here that live to make drama and start flame wars. I'm not singling anyone out on this but it happens and a lot more often in the past few weeks. I don't know why we don't focus more on purging the forums of problem people rather then productive developers that choose to venture away from xda. We also need to be very careful about publicly accusing people of being in violation of a GPL. Falsely accusing someone of something should not be taken lightly. All it serves to do is misinform the community and cause confusion for the users as to what really happened. Not to mention the damage done to someones reputation.
XDA would be nothing without the developers and users that make it up. I realize that XDA makes the rules and are well within their rights to do so. But sometimes some of these rules need to be revisited from time to time to make sure they are applicable especially when a site is growing as rapidly as XDA is.
This place used to be an escape for me. Something I enjoyed participating in but anymore it serves to cause more stress then it helps to manage. If we want this community to survive we ALL need to think about how we carry ourselves here and what kind of behavior and attitude we deem acceptable. I'm very frustrated with the direction this is all going in and I have really tried to keep us going in the right direction. We all play a part in the negativity and we ALL NEED to play a part in making things better.
For the record, I thought today was handled pretty well as far as transparency goes. So Thank You.

Threads like this need to go away. Drama explaining the drama. Wish the mods would just delete any drama threads here.

ATRIX forum turning me off

I check all over this forum for all known kinds of phones and used to be very active over in the captivate forums. And theres one difference here a lot of you guys are just rude. Its kind of making me not even want to be a part of xda anymore. Its like most of you are just here to be douchebags.
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I have to agree with you...it does appear that some people here a lot less cordial than over at the Captivate forum...if it wasn't for my 1006 with the terrible GPS I probably would have kept it and waited for the Attain.
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We are so roods! Let's come to a forum and troll a bunch of people trying to recover from bricks
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Hydro360 said:
I check all over this forum for all known kinds of phones and used to be very active over in the captivate forums. And theres one difference here a lot of you guys are just rude. Its kind of making me not even want to be a part of xda anymore. Its like most of you are just here to be douchebags.
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I agree... people are attacking devs and making false accusations saying that they are full of **** just because they haven't released anything yet or that it dosent work right out of the gate. Maybe once everyone calms down and decides to be a bit patient then maybe people will be able to get some work done instead if dealing with all the whiners. I feel bad for all the devs for having to put up with it all.

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...which.. forum turns you on? ;D
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i agree, the atrix forum is filled with a bunch of kids. the captivate forum was way better =/

coming from a background of development and being involved with computers from young age and doing actual work I can easily assume that most people that have atrix are people that have decided to pay $$ for a good phone. Most of these people do not have background of normal programmers so it is understandable that they cannot comprehend how much effort goes into writing each line of code and making sure each line of code works flawlessly with the rest of the code.
I would simply suggest that if people were more patient and let people with more experience to TEST all new releases for bugs before doing it themselves we would have a much better atrix forum

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i agree, the atrix forum is filled with a bunch of kids. the captivate forum was way better =/
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I'd say most came from that area. Unfortunately, it spoiled some people due to the success devs had with that phone. Now that we're unlocked, hopefully we can get away from those dark days

Nothing of this happen if devs say something "i will release xxx on next xxx weeks", even if its a lie, or maybe "i'll not release this, period". Simple.
Forum is a community like a city, do you imagine live on a city where the govern doesn't say nothing and make what they want? Revolution like is happening on some afrika countries.
Bad compare, but true. No one is obliged to do something, but when you say in public that you are developing, you have commited to do, so people wait some ETA, status of developing etc...
I was developing some app for students around the world, but when my atrix got bricked i loose the will to do, but i had not promised to anyone or advertise to anyone.

LMAO
This forum really did turn into a flamefest in the last month or two. I've never seen a sub forum full of so much hate!!

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This forum really did turn into a flamefest in the last month or two. I've never seen a sub forum full of so much hate!!
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And everyone will loose, community will enter in a war, and motorola and others manufactures will win the right of control our lifes.

Long time lurker
As a long time lurker i have to agree, people seem to forget that people here are donating their time and skill free of charge. Some times things don't go to plan other times real life gets in the way.
The devs here deserve our support and respect. I joined just after I got my HD2 and the number of times i have been rescued from bricking my phone is beyond count. I love this forum, at the moment the atrix forum does remind me of chat avenue, any one remember that site?

i think its much nicer coming from the x10 forum o.o

Hydro360 said:
I check all over this forum for all known kinds of phones and used to be very active over in the captivate forums. And theres one difference here a lot of you guys are just rude. Its kind of making me not even want to be a part of xda anymore. Its like most of you are just here to be douchebags.
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OP I couldn't agree with you more.
We have a couple of known users here that think they are above the "XDA Community". This doesn't help when new users sign onto XDA, and think this type of behavior is the norm.
I understand that rookie mistakes can be frustrating, but were supposed to help and not put down others around here.
For anybody that started XDA before the Atrix, it's easy to tell how sour this place can get at times.
Hopefully more people stand up, and help clean up some of that "stuff" around here...

I need to agree =/.....
but I think with unlock bootloader more serious people come where to play with atrix, I will not leave xda, I'm here since 2007 soo xD
I've been pass good moments here .....found good and exelente solutions, have a few problemes with some crazy users.....eheh

Hi,
I see the odd snarky remark from the un-socialized, but what is dragging the forums down these days is short attention span and laziness. Resurrected threads, multiple topics on the same thing. It's endless.
Cheers!

devbro said:
coming from a background of development and being involved with computers from young age and doing actual work I can easily assume that most people that have atrix are people that have decided to pay $$ for a good phone. Most of these people do not have background of normal programmers so it is understandable that they cannot comprehend how much effort goes into writing each line of code and making sure each line of code works flawlessly with the rest of the code.
I would simply suggest that if people were more patient and let people with more experience to TEST all new releases for bugs before doing it themselves we would have a much better atrix forum
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lol this is exactly why I didn't hop on the latest roms and mods yet (except for Pudding, which I "ate" right away!)
As a rule of thumb, I am never an early adopter.

xepter said:
i think its much nicer coming from the x10 forum o.o
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This is my first android phone, and first reason to come to xda. This does seem related to restlessness of not being able to mod the phone the way other phones can be. Now that the bootloader unlock is out of the bag, I was figuring I would see less hostile members, and perhaps this will be the case when there isn't an inferiority complex about being behind other phones in development ability, i.e. CM7 with overclocked kernel combination is available and stable.
Everyone could use a j and some Bob Marley.

devbro said:
coming from a background of development and being involved with computers from young age and doing actual work I can easily assume that most people that have atrix are people that have decided to pay $$ for a good phone. Most of these people do not have background of normal programmers so it is understandable that they cannot comprehend how much effort goes into writing each line of code and making sure each line of code works flawlessly with the rest of the code.
I would simply suggest that if people were more patient and let people with more experience to TEST all new releases for bugs before doing it themselves we would have a much better atrix forum
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If "anyone" doesn't have the funds for a replacement, IMHO it's best not to test the "deep end" of the swimming pool.
Let "multiple people" confirm things first, or play it safe with "Official OTAs"...
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The Atrix forums are the worse out of the ones i've spent time in (captivate, focus, inspire and Atrix). Never have I seen so much *****ing, fighting and crying over every little thing. But im here to stay either way
Sent via the power of a unicorn's horn.

The Atrix forums was the first one I've seen on XDA, the Atrix being my first device. I didnt really think much of it, since I've seen worse forums before. But once I got a nook color and saw how peaceful that section was in comparison, I've been kinda thinking the same thing.
Many people here need to realize the value of patience, the meaning of donations, the effort of actual developers and the responsibility involved in flashing untested code. And the search button.

Wow

Why would a mod close the sgs3 thread? It was a thread for fascinate owners who are considering upgrading. It was a discussion within this community by people who wanted opinions of others they have come to know and trust, not some fan boy who posts in the sgs3 forum. Why should I go there when the opinions I want are here. And it was in the general section ffs. I mean what was wrong with that, its not like it was posted in development. Get off your high horse, this is our community too.
Oh, and by the way, while you were closing this thread in general for no real reason, you missed two posts in development that don't belong. GTW
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Since xda chooses not to assign mods who are a regular part of the community, mods routinely jump in with no sense of what is actually going on in the forum and go willy nilly. Then half the forum leaves and goes to rootzwiki until the mod loses interest.
Certainly not the first time this has happened.
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Oh I know I just couldn't believe it happened to a benign general discussion thread is all.
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a bunch of bs if you ask me...im suprised chef tony did that??

Edit: Never mind

I sent him a message at least asking why... I can't find any rules that we violated. this is why I've been bugging the admin to make either me, droidstyle, some well known person in the community a mod, it happens every few months that a mod comes in here and abuses their powers or something and pisses all of us off, we need somebody who is actually a part of the community that knows what is going on.
how come none of the threads that are in the wrong section have been fixed? how come the old threads from over a year ago that we keep requesting closes on are still open? how come the excess noob posts and things haven't been cleaned up at all? all that happened is some of our fun got ruined without him even giving a reason or explanation. just because you're a mod doesn't make you part of the community, or us not part of it. doesn't matter how much power somebody gives you if you use it wrong and on things you have no knowledge about.
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Preach on. I've been on xda since the Eris and the fascinate forums since around launch. I really don't understand why xda stays with a mod system that it has clearly outgrown. The mods are good but the system sucks.
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somebody should pm sixstringsg and see if he would reopen the thread.

Got a response from Chef_Tony. Here's our conversation.
Re: fascinate forum sgs3 thread
Originally Posted by sageDieu
I don't see the point of closing that thread, it is in anticipation of the phone because nobody in the Fascinate forum has a gs3 yet... the gs3 forums are such a cluster f*** that nobody wants to try and post there anyways. we have simply been discussing the phone that a majority of the fascinate community is upgrading to, is there a certain rule or something we broke? if so then I apologize for any offense caused. we just don't see a point to taking away our discussion.
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hi,
maybe i should have given a further explanation, why i closed the thread, but since i did not read it entirely, i wouldn't want to comment on the contents.
i did not close it for a real rule violation, but simply for the reason that the fascinate general section should be exactly that, general discussion of the fascinate, tips, tricks and tutorials. of course, users of one particular device also get together to talk about other devices, but at 10 pages, i felt it got a bit out of hand, because the same thing goes on with every device and when people start talking about a number of other devices in every device's section, it might get a bit cluttered.
still, i know, what you are getting at. i am mostly active in the sgs2 forum and of course, people are discussing the sgs3 there as well, with aspects only relevant to existing sgs2 customers, like if it is a good idea to upgrade, when you already have the s2 and what plans allow you to change phone after a year and so on. i understand the fascinate thread was basically the same thing, it was targetted entirely at current fascinate users from north america, most of them on verizon plans. that is something you don't have in the sgs3 section, yet.
closing the thread was just a first step, the plan is to move the thread to the sgs3 section and re-label it to give current (and former) fascinate users a platform to discuss the sgs3, with actual s3 users to look into and maybe offer a helping hand, since they already know everything about the device, but would not actually go into other devices' forums to help people there.
this step will be done in a few minutes, then the thread will be re-opened and has a permanent re-direct from the fascinate section, so you can still visit it conveniently from your device's section.
as you see, at no point was there any issue with the thread itself, it is just some minor maintenance to keep the forum clean and organized, feel free to continue the discussion in a few minutes.
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So basically he did it so that we could have a thread in the GS3 section for once we get our GS3s. Would have been nice for him to tell us that.

lol i think there are more important things that need to be accomplished here at xda. first step would be organizing that cluster f*** of a sgsIII forum.

I was reading Chef Tony's response and at first was thinking thats bs reasoining, than he made sense and I agree with him. And its still convenient cause I check this forum not the GS3 that often, and the thread is still here is fine. I was wondering where that thread went earlier haha.

I'm not seeing the thread on my phone any more, can somebody link to it please?
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I'm not seeing the thread on my phone any more, can somebody link to it please?
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Here ya go.

Reading this thread has made me a bit nostalgic. I've become quite accustomed to the little family of Fascinate owners here, small but dedicated. It now seems very real that the sgsIIIs are packed up and ready to ship. Even our threads are leaving us.
I don't post a great deal, but I follow you guys all the time. I suppose it was inevitable that the sgsIII would break things up, but it's sad nonetheless.
For those of you heading to the next big thing, I'll almost certainly see you there eventually. For those staying, I look forward to further discussions about the little phone that could.

I echo your sentiments. It's a shame that the powers that be decided to deprive us of the ability to discuss an issue that effects the community within the community. A thread in the gs3 forums is great and all but it isn't the same as it does not have the same dynamics or personalities.
Anyway, I may eventually make it over to gs3 land but aokp and devil kernel is a really nice setup on this venerable device. I honestly don't know if I can live without aosp and aokp so I may make it there eventually or just say screw it and snag a galaxy nexus on the cheap.
It's been excellent folks. This is the first phone I've ever truly found to be superb. But most of that is because of the hard work put in from devs like jt1134, adrynalyne, nitsuj, stephen, and many many others.
Those of you who are staying, I'll see you around. Those who are leaving, ill catch up with you all eventually :beer:
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