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hi all
i am a complete technology newbie. i would like to know if its possible to port the developer build/final build (i know its not available yet) of windows phone 7 on dell streak? i am sure streak meets all the hardware requirements. i just want to know if its possible at least in theory?
I have fallen in love with dell streak but i dont like android that much. i would be on top of the world if dell streak could run windows phone 7 as i believe it is the OS of the century!!
are you for real?
from what ive seen of wp7 it looks like a really boring OS. blank screen with text....yawn.
yes the streak is awesome, yes it does suck having 1.6 on it but once the updates or hackers start messing about its going to rule.
i do have to agree, why would you want to? the hardware isnt supported anyways. i want is htc sense. still android! but prettier.
Not going to happen I'm afraid!
People managed to get windows 98 running on the Nexus One (although it was pretty pointless; no wifi drivers, no double click, no right click, no click and drag, etc.)
I'd rather get XP running on the Dell than WM7 anyday
I would definately be up for WP7 on the Streak!
vinokirk said:
I would definately be up for WP7 on the Streak!
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thanx vinokirk!! i almost got blasted for asking that question.
I would be an interesting challenge, I too am intrigued by WP7.
Android is growing on me, but it feels half baked at times, too reliant on 3rd party apps for the best experience. Maybe 2.2 will sort allot of that.
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Hopefully the streak will get WP7 through some hacking to get it working. WP7 may look boring to some, but I think it looks amazing. Also, since it supports XNA its going to have some amazing games on it.
As much as I like android, its just not very polished.
courtlandre said:
Hopefully the streak will get WP7 through some hacking to get it working. WP7 may look boring to some, but I think it looks amazing. Also, since it supports XNA its going to have some amazing games on it.
As much as I like android, its just not very polished.
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Yeah I think it would be awesome if it did happen! But it's getting people that have the knowledge and time to put into it fingers crossed though!
wm7 will be out in October i have just read and there will be loads of devices that are running it so i don't see the point of putting it on this device, it was built for android, just buy a wm7 tablet i know of 4 manufacturer's that have said they will be building a wm7 tablet/phone
I doubt any will be a 5" device. Plus, its fun hacking phones and putting new OS's on.
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I doubt any will be a 5" device. Plus, its fun hacking phones and putting new OS's on.
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exactly!! i can put dell streak into my pocket but a 7 inch tablet or larger is not pocketable and all i hear is that wp7 tablets will all be 7 inch or more...no rumour or anything of that sort on a 5inch device running wp7..
moreover, i just love the design of dell streak and would love to have a polished OS running on it.
who would actually prefer this over android...it seems cool but it would probably get boring after 2 or three weeks
is this convosation still going on.
wp7 = countless plain screens with text, 1998 called they want their phone back
sahirhussain said:
hi all
i am a complete technology newbie. i would like to know if its possible to port the developer build/final build (i know its not available yet) of windows phone 7 on dell streak? i am sure streak meets all the hardware requirements. i just want to know if its possible at least in theory?
I have fallen in love with dell streak but i dont like android that much. i would be on top of the world if dell streak could run windows phone 7 as i believe it is the OS of the century!!
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+1.
I love the current iteration of the 5" device in my pocket.
But I would love to have a 5" device in my pocket which can be WP7 or Android.
WP7 on Dell Venue Pro, why not on Streak?
I would love to see dual boot Android/WP7 on the Dell Streak!
Saad73 said:
I would love to see dual boot Android/WP7 on the Dell Streak!
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WP7? Another dumbed down iphonesque straight jacket OS, more Apple than even IOS? With no flash, no multitasking, and minimum possibilities for personalization? I personally really don't care for any operating system that assumes I am too dumb to use a phone and that I have to do everything just the way big Daddy wants me to or I will mess it up.
HansTWN said:
WP7? Another dumbed down iphonesque straight jacket OS, more Apple than even IOS? With no flash, no multitasking, and minimum possibilities for personalization? I personally really don't care for any operating system that assumes I am too dumb to use a phone and that I have to do everything just the way big Daddy wants me to or I will mess it up.
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ya did you guys really want an os that can't be your own that's the beauty of android you can it make so personal..... I just think android has to get a little more polished up.... but for developers who want play and see if they can do more power and maybe a dual boot would be cool to show off lol
Well a dual boot would be awesome, if nothing then pure awesomeness by the developer
excuse me for my question i'm really a newbye.
is it possible a dual boot for the streak with windows mobile or windows 7 and android ?
or the dell streak with windows mobile only?
I ask this, because it's possible the contrary for example htc hd2 with dual boot or with the rom android.
Thanks.
I don't think so and why will you do that? it's like installing windows 95 on a core i7.
I was a winmo user for a long time and the only thing that will get me back to it is Garmin XT but it is not worth it.
anyhow I beleive you need a hacked bootloader, so you can have a nice fancy menu for dual boot, but I doubt any devs here would like to drop WinMo at the streak. since we just had a release of Vanilla Froyo.
I'm ok with you regarding wm6.5 but Wm7 could be fun on it. It's being able to have the choice that make a piece of technology powerfull
Windows Mobile 7 is hardly anything like Windows 95 when compared to Android. Yes, I'm a former WinMo user happy with my Android device (HTC Desire) but that doesn't mean Windows 7 is in any way comparable to WinMo 6.x. Microsoft completely rewrote the OS, from the ground up, to run on these types of devices. I haven't had a chance to play with it but it looks to be a much more polished system that WM6.x ever was.
BrokenPixel said:
I don't think so and why will you do that? it's like installing windows 95 on a core i7.
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It's more like installing Windows Server 2008 Enterprise on 486 DX2
I guess the man wants windows mobile, because he needs a work tool, not a toy...
Actually the device will be very decent with 2 GB ROM - WinMo+Android+Lots off stuff installed on nand...
I'll be interested in that also. Win 7 interests me especially if they get the communication agrigation right as they claim.
I love Android because its open.......well kinda open.....carriers have spoilt that a bit
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BrokenPixel said:
I don't think so and why will you do that? it's like installing windows 95 on a core i7.
I was a winmo user for a long time and the only thing that will get me back to it is Garmin XT but it is not worth it.
anyhow I beleive you need a hacked bootloader, so you can have a nice fancy menu for dual boot, but I doubt any devs here would like to drop WinMo at the streak. since we just had a release of Vanilla Froyo.
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yes, so am I, because I feel better with tomtom and there's no android version,
so co-pilot , perhaps igo are compatible with it.
Oh yeah, one thing I tottaly forgot, winmo has a LOT of medical market and propietary jobs... here in my country the police uses winmo to check your id's and stuff. so I guess it's not a bad idea... but I can't imagine a police guy with a streak. Now a little off topic but there is a QIGI with 5 inch screen and WinMo 6.5 If you wanna look at it here it is
www.qigi.cc/showproduce.asp?id=52
enjoy!
I really hope we'll see dual boot Android and WP7 on the Streak
bump!!! Bump!!! BUMP!!! BUMPPPPPP!!!!!!!
I would seriously love to see WM7 boot up on the Streak. There HAS to be a possible way to make this happen.
Wouldn't mind seeing this myself
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Would be awesome to have 7 on the streak but for some reason I would prefer 6.5
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+1 on the 6.5. Although thats not fair since I haven't used WP7 yet.
hey...remember the old HTC Shift Tablet? that dual booted 6.5 and Vista...I'd imagine the Streak could pull a dual boot of WP7 and Android.
Omg yes, that shift tablet is sick! Found one at a local cell phone store. Would have got it but not willing to shell out the 1000 they were asking for. For me I have used 7 its nice but lots of things were missing that 6.5 had like a file explorer and the wifi hotspot thing.
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GARMIN XT on Dell Streak
BrokenPixel said:
I don't think so and why will you do that? it's like installing windows 95 on a core i7.
I was a winmo user for a long time and the only thing that will get me back to it is Garmin XT but it is not worth it.
anyhow I believe you need a hacked bootloader, so you can have a nice fancy menu for dual boot, but I doubt any devs here would like to drop WinMo at the streak. since we just had a release of Vanilla Froyo.
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I am a Streak 5 owner and I am looking also for Wm 7 running on Streak
The first reason is for the GARMIN XT
Is there a way to install that ?
thanks
nooo, why think of this nonsense!! devs should do gingerbread instead of windows junk
Satamototo said:
It's more like installing Windows Server 2008 Enterprise on 486 DX2
I guess the man wants windows mobile, because he needs a work tool, not a toy...
Actually the device will be very decent with 2 GB ROM - WinMo+Android+Lots off stuff installed on nand...
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This post. Serious win.
Android is quite awesome and all, but I dont leave my HD2 home. iGO8 and Office Mobile have yet to be topped. In all honesty though, just give me 2.3 for the Streak.
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i dont actually see anything that i would want from windows mobile on my android phone. i think windows phone 7 would be easier to get on the device but theres even less i would want from that. maybe im just a fan of googles services and dont care much for the metro interface.
Yep I was a die-hard winmo user and had no idea what I was missing in the android world. Android is so smooth, no sticky screens, stopped processing and hangups like I was used to in winmo.
No dual boot for me. Android is cool !
Would it be possible to load Android onto the Dell Venue Pro? I got issued one by my company, and would prefer Android 2.2/2.3 to WP7...
then buy an android device...
y know like the dell streak...
domineus said:
then buy an android device...
y know like the dell streak...
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Let the xda-dev happen...please do not kill the thread. This is the forum where we can meet and get what we think is the best of all worlds..tweaks/roots.
sahuja said:
Let the xda-dev happen...please do not kill the thread. This is the forum where we can meet and get what we think is the best of all worlds..tweaks/roots.
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oh by all means please Please do that. You know first getting access to root commands which we haven't, find an ability to change the spl (which we haven't) and finally porting android to windows phone 7 through something not named haret...
oh yes but I'm killing the thread.
Let's be realistic. If you want an android device, get an android device. Get an HD2, but what's ruining the thread?
Users asking when can I get android like xda is waiting forever to serve your android needs.
Take my advice, get a device that runs android if you don't want the dell
SoulREX said:
Would it be possible to load Android onto the Dell Venue Pro? I got issued one by my company, and would prefer Android 2.2/2.3 to WP7...
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Perhaps when the Dell Venue comes out it may be possible, since both devices should have very similar hardware.
maybe you missed the part where he said he was issued one by his company?
PolishDude said:
maybe you missed the part where he said he was issued one by his company?
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maybe you missed the part that included selling it and getting a droid...
how nice... my post was randomly deleted for no reason.
Yay for overzealous mods?
I think if HTC HD2 (an android device) can be loaded with WP7, it's quite likely a WP7 device can be loaded with android.
HD2 is WM6.5
No, hd2 is with android, linux, meego, wm6 and wp7
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I for one would love to see a dual boot DVP, WP7 and Android.
Yeah, I have an Android phone (actually 2), and I love it, but I've also been playing with WP7 and it's great too. I actually have a DVP on order.
The big thing for me though is the hardware.
The DVP is a BEAUTIFUL phone, and I love the form factor. There's nothing else like it.
I think the next closest phone would be the BB Torch (outdated crap and no AWS), the Pre series (crap that HP will kill, also no AWS), or the Moto Spice (POS Android 2.1 with locked Bootloader)
I know it's not possible right now and I'll fully enjoy my DVP when it arrives.
I'm hoping that someone will be able to crack the DVP (wasn't GeoHot supposed to do it at Pwn2Own?) and since the Android Venue is supposed to be more-or-less the same hardware (minus the sweet keyboard), hopefully it will be possible eventually.
I own a Galaxy Tab and would second this since someone brought it up. Before my Tab I was actually eagerly awaiting the DVP, mainly for its build quality and portrait slide-out QWERTY. Didn't get it in the end cos of the teething WP7 issues, and also because it wasn't even launched in my country till today; but I would have disregarded warranty issues and imported it if WP7 didn't have all those issues.
After using Android I realised it fit my usage pattern much better, but I'm still pining after the hardware of the DVP. Would be great to have the best of both worlds.
What is it with people getting defensive about the idea of having a Dell Venue Pro running Android? I had a Touch Pro 2 that ran Android, the HD2 runs Android and HD7, Sure I can always buy an Android device (which I do, I own a Droid Pro and a Nexus One) but the hardware on the Dell Venue Pro is probably some of the best I've had (Returned the phone after a few weeks due to it being WP7)
I've started a Bounty on Android on the DVP here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13920817#post13920817
Please, contribute if you can!
Yes, I also don't get why some people mind. I do own HTC Desire Z wich is great, but wow, the DVP is stunning! I love the way it looks and feels in the hand, and shockingly the keyboard is the best I've seen, even better than Desire Z's one. (shock)
There's nothing like it on the market, but WM7 is a deal breaker. That's why if someone ports Android on DVP, I sell my Desire Z in a heartbeat and go buy a Venue Pro!
So please, someone, do it!
Anyone try the rooting technique for the venue on a venue pro yet..? I may when my replacement for this one comes. I have been playing with some Droid ROMs, and funniest thing things is lots of these Droid ROMs remind me of the Energy ROM with HTC sense on WM6.5.. so if I can get Droid on my DVP, I may ditch WM7 until Mango update.
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Why would a root exploit for android do anything to wp7? And how would you run it? All the root methods I'm familiar with are either all's (z4root, gingerbreak, etc) or require adb (superoneclick or manual methods), neither of which has anything to do with wp7
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Not owning a Droid phone wasn't sure if you could get the DVP to "connect to pc" screen and then run some kind of technique to install android on top.. I stopped hacking and generally screwing with my phones when is went from WM to WP
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can someone have a laugh and try holding down vol up and connecting usb cable to dvp while its turned off- and the same with volume down see if computer sees anything show up - anyone who owns a streak5 will know why i ask it
No flames please. If you like WP7 and think Android is crap then do not read or respond to this thread.
On the other hand, if you like the DVP but think the hardware is garbage then read on.
I've been spearheading an effort to get Android ported over to the DELL Venue Pro. I'm no developer or hacker, but I am trying to keep things organized and focused.
Here is my thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13920817
Now, Dell Streak 5/7 developer extrodinare is willing to try his hand and the DVP. He's not promising anything other than a best effort, but that's all we can ever ask of any community dev.
Anyone interested in helping, please let me know.
-Martin
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Am interested in seeing andriod on my dvp.. Bring it fast..
figured it's coming. DVP already got an android cousin to begin with.
why ruin something that works? I have had every dell device with android and it doesn't hold a candle to windows phone...
i would think more people would want a port of windows to the streak and venue
This would be interesting to see. As much as I like WP7 I wouldn't mind having the ability to switch between the two. Also, if he can get it to work maybe the method used can help with further development for WP7 stuff on DVP's.
Krad said:
why ruin something that works? I have had every dell device with android and it doesn't hold a candle to windows phone...
i would think more people would want a port of windows to the streak and venue
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Please read my original post and please don't be a troll.
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i am in if its dual boot..love win phone and like android too..would be really nice to be able to use both...
I face the following problems mentioned below. Except this windows rocks. If these issues are solved than its gr8.
1)USSD.
2)Bluetooth File transfer.
dishant.shahani said:
I face the following problems mentioned below. Except this windows rocks. If these issues are solved than its gr8.
1)USSD.
2)Bluetooth File transfer.
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i had the first problem too...but after all the updates, ussd runs fine now...
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i had the first problem too...but after all the updates, ussd runs fine now...
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which update solved this problem?? please tell me..
it was after the mango update on my dvp...can run ussd now fine..
Willing to help how I can
I already PM'd DJ Steve about this but Ill put it public here as well. Through a non-profit license my org has access to up to 200 units DVP's at $30 each.
NOTE: I AM NOT/ WILL NOT/ CAN NOT SELL THESE PHONES TO ANYONE
If it will help the process, or even just get it going- I could be willing to distribute.. I dunno, 5 or 10 of these to any developers that DJ Steve deemed worthy, or to him to distribute as needed.
No scheme, just that these would be REALLY useful to my organization if we could get them running Android - as Windows phones... ttheyre basically just $30 cameras and Skype phones as far as our needs are concerned.
heres the techsoup link if there are any other Non-Profits interested> ** I cant post links yet but its on the techsoup.org website under products>Dell. **
I dont know all the legal aspects of it, but if there are professional developers out there interested, it may even be possible for you to donate your 'time' as a Charitable Donation (ie tax write-off) - Again Im not a lawyer and that proposition might be completely unlawful, its just a thought- one that I will look into if anyone is interested.
LETS DO THIS!
-PK
DJ_Steve has been out of action for nearly a year, so he doesnt really have time to do anything dev related, much less hack bootloaders for the VP.
Do you have any VPs that are using old versions of WP7? (that wernt flashed with the FFU that is floating around?).
We are missing the URLs for unbranded VPs and the WP7 community as a whole is missing urls for the 8779 update.
Hypothetically if the bootloader was changed, I would assume it would more or less work the the V's roms, since they're like 99% identical hardware wise.
Has anyone done this? Does it work?
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Nop the only phone able to run android and mango is the htc hd2.
Guys.!!! Dell venue n dell streak 5got same rom n environment hardware too just diffrence is venue is Hdpi n dell streak is Mdpi .so why do nt we join hands n make ics work for dell or on other hand u can take advantage of our dell streak 5 formus there r few good roms like longhorn 2.8 with Hdpi support for dell Venue and Dcs 1.1.which supports both hdpi n mdpi just need to edit build.prop n may be kernel....whish u all safe cooking ...n Friends in need friend indeed ..
Max
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I can only barely understand what the guy above me said, but:
The main issue is the bootloaders, the V and VP obviously use different ones.
They're only designed to load their respective OS's, and Android/WP7 are too different to simply boot without mods.
Just as much for whoever is seriously attempting to document this, you'd likely need to document and use it's JTAG points too, as breaking the bootloader is usually a very bad thing
As far as flashing an actual new bootloader, the V can do it though android recovery and possibly though fastboot.
The VP would have it's zune composite mode(?) and zune tools?