The Android Conundrum - Vibrant General

Interesting article here on the state of the Android OS, Samsung Galaxy S, and updates:
http://andgeeks.com/google-android/...ust-in-time-for-gingerbread-882580/#more-2580
I think it is relevant given all of the news/anticipation for Froyo.

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MyTabletLife.com Article - No Honeycomb upgrade for Android 2.x tablets?

Just read this on MyTabletLife.com
Another big rumor hitting the interwebs over the past few days is that Android tablets that are currently running Android 2.x will not see Honeycomb upgrades. According to Eldar Murtazin, writing for Mobile-Review, Google has licensing agreements specifically preventing manufactures from upgrading to Android 3.0 on their devices. This will come as bad news for those with the current Samsung Galaxy Tab.
NotionInk has stated several times that they will be upgrading their Android 2.2 tablet to Honeycomb, so maybe the smaller manufactures did not have these agreements in place. The HYC Flyer hasn’t even released yet, and it comes with Android 2.3, and a tablet version of their Sense UI. If this announcement is true I could see many consumers skipping the Flyer as it will never see the tablet version of Android.

Samsung announced ICS update in Korea, but only for newer phones.

Samsung just officially announced that there will be no ICS update for various android based phone from Samsung EXCEPT GS2, GS2 LTE, GS2 HD, Galaxy Note, Galaxy Tab 10.1, Galaxy Tab 8.9.
Samsung also said that GS1 specially optimized for Gingerbread, so they can not update GS1 to ICS.
Some Korean users are in rage due to the fact that GS1 is strong enough for ICS.
And rightly so. no one's buying that, ever. Not only google got it running on nexus s which is pretty much the same phone as we all seen ports running great.
If they don't want to update an old phone its their prerogative but at least be honest about it.
Edit: just realized they never said sgs wasn't powerful enough, they just won't update it. I can understand the raging but can't help it if they aren't willing to do it...
I will never buy samsung phone again
why do not update galaxy s to ICS with have as more spec with Nexus S
Official? Source?
Besides that:
Nexus S = Google
Galaxy S = Samsung
It's in Korean. I will post a new post with translation.
Pretty much rules out any chance of us getting the update ever.
If I had to guess, I'd say it's because of the retarded filesystem Samsung locked stock users into. Regardless, it's a ****ty move by Samsung nontheless.
lascoul said:
why do not update galaxy s to ICS with have as more spec with Nexus S
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Because then you wouldn't buy a new phone. I suspect the file system was also a way for them to force you into buying a new phone. Planned obsolescence.
You have to wonder though, Samsung release a few phones with similar/lower specs to our phone such as the SGS+, and the Galaxy W, and their releases haven't had one year behind them. Will they really not update them?

Bad bad baaaad,no ics :( i9001 is hope?

But i9001 s plus???
Samsung has shared one of the most disappointing news of recent weeks – the Galaxy S alongside the Galaxy Tab won’t have an opportunity to taste the delicious Ice Cream Sandwich platform..
The information is certainly a big letdown for the owners of both devices, especially since the Galaxy duo had been Samsung’s flagships before the arrival of Galaxy S II and Galaxy 10.1 tablet.
According to Samsung, the update cannot be rolled out for its two award-winning products because of their hardware, reportedly incapable of running the brand new Android 4.0 platform smoothly. It is fairly doubtful that this is the true reason of the issue, since Samsung Nexus S is getting the anticipated update, and both the Samsung Galaxy S and the Nexus S are very similar devices in terms of specs.
Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich offers redesigned interface and several new features, including Android Beam, enhanced multitasking, new lock screen, control over network data, and more. http://electronicinfo.us/news/samsung-says-no-to-android-4-0-for-galaxy-s-galaxy-tab/
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2398010,00.asp
;-[
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410419

[Ics 4.0] Samsung plans to Offer ICS 4.0 for Galaxy S & Tab after Huge Demand !!

After one of the biggest online revolt against Korean Giant Samsung Electronics by its consumers after announcing straightaway that it won’t be coming out with ICS Android 4.0 for its 1st Generation Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab line up, now it seems like Samsung had to bow down to the reaction of its customers. Samsung today announced that it will be going to review its decision for not rolling out ICS for Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab which clearly suggests that Samsung Electronics will soon be going to unveil the ICS Android 4.0 version.
This decision comes after so many forums reported that when unofficial ICS Android 4.0 builds are taking rounds for its 1st generation line up of Samsung Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S then why can’t Samsung can optimize for the same. Some of the leading forums also kicked off an online petition request which was supported by users in a huge number and in turn has really shaken Samsung and is now forced to review its decision.
just hope that this “Review” will soon be converted into a speedy roll out of ICS Android 4.0 for its 1st generation Galaxy devices which includes Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S. Do, share with us your reaction and thoughts on this as it will further help us and to you as we will be passing this feedback to Samsung.
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Yeah Bow to the power of internet ^^
I already felt like a dupe buying SGS I 3 months before the SGS II (exact same price)...
Refund us and give us all a SGS II
The power of the internet! Truly amazing!
bad news : http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_to_get_a_value_pack_update_instead_of_ics-news-3583.php
Guess we need to push harder then.
i just read that too
the reason samsung gives out is a lie. they just want to shrug off their responsibility
if ram is the main problem then what fate will come to the newly released galaxy s plus, and galaxy w, and galaxy Y. they all have 512 or less mb. HORRIBLE SUPPORT is the main problem here. look at SONY ERICSSON and learn samsung!
My next phone will be a Google phone.
Nexus rulz!
LOL extra bloat above bloat instead of AOSP when you give the performance excuse?
You can't be serious.
juno14 said:
i just read that too
the reason samsung gives out is a lie. they just want to shrug off their responsibility
if ram is the main problem then what fate will come to the newly released galaxy s plus, and galaxy w, and galaxy Y. they all have 512 or less mb. HORRIBLE SUPPORT is the main problem here. look at SONY ERICSSON and learn samsung!
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Don't see why they should learn from Sony Ericsson. They are not faster than samsung updating their phones. Samsung has 2.3.6 for most of their phones while SE has 2.3.4.
Never really saw the reason to release the Galaxy S Plus. Atleast, here in Sweden it costs more than the S2. That's Samsungs main problem. All these models that are the same as the others. They have Gio, Ace, Mini, Galaxy Y? They are mainly the same phones. If they would instead only release two of them, like the Ace and the Mini, they would have time to upgrade all the phones. WAKE UP, SAMSUNG!!!
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Don't see why they should learn from Sony Ericsson. They are not faster than samsung updating their phones. Samsung has 2.3.6 for most of their phones while SE has 2.3.4.
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but all those phones will be updated to ICS. yes u read that right! ALL, not just their latest flagship device!
juno14 said:
i just read that too
the reason samsung gives out is a lie. they just want to shrug off their responsibility
if ram is the main problem then what fate will come to the newly released galaxy s plus, and galaxy w, and galaxy Y. they all have 512 or less mb. HORRIBLE SUPPORT is the main problem here. look at SONY ERICSSON and learn samsung!
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It's just Sony now fyi.
I usually don't join in these discussions; however your statement is untrue.
My wife's SE X10 flagship smartphone from 2010 is NOT getting an update to ICS.
How do you explain that? This phone was released with android 1.6 and would not get an update to gingerbread at first, also the phone was uncapable of multitouch and would not get an update... I doubt many would agree with you that SE update policy was great back then.
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but all those phones will be updated to ICS. yes u read that right! ALL, not just their latest flagship device!
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I think your best bet for updates is to go with the Nexus phones.
get back to the topic guys,.. we need to do something,..
Ontopic; Samsung might also consider to release drivers for the hardware for coming android versions... although a vanilla android 4 from samsung would be nice.
How much flashmemory does ICS with touchwiz need and how much does the SGS have?
I know 2 things
1. i9000 can run ICS unoffically
2. can run Modern Combat 3 smoothly
So Samsung - don't be lazy, it will hurt your business! i had i5700 spika that wasn't updated, i9000 that wont be updated - i will not make this mistake for the 3rd time...
People at Samsung mobile are so stupid they think that we will buy S2 when we don't get ICS on S1
Samsung U can't force us!
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Ontopic; Samsung might also consider to release drivers for the hardware for coming android versions... although a vanilla android 4 from samsung would be nice.
How much flashmemory does ICS with touchwiz need and how much does the SGS have?
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Probably 1GB of RAM like the SGS II. Touchwiz in its current incarnation for the SGS II is a memory hog, and probably would not work on the SGS with ICS if they tried.
They would most likely need more than one branch of Touchwiz to bring it to other devices, and this is probably the reason why it won't be released for the SGS and devices with less than 1GB of RAM.
I don't think its not possible, I think Samsung just does not want to spend dev hours on older devices in which they won't see a return in investment. (and of course, you won't be going out to buy a new device)
Like it or not, Apple has changed consumer expectations for updates. I understand its much easier to do such a thing with a limited amount of devices, but in the eyes of the average consumer, that is not their problem.
Don'r exite guys, it is just a rumour confirmed by GSMA!!
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_to_get_a_value_pack_update_instead_of_ics-news-3583.php
I think this was a final decision. CM9 is coming.. so there is no problem.^^
please start read stickies....

How can download the official ICS Canada version?

Patience is a virtue that many Android users get to exercise when it comes to waiting for carriers and manufacturers to bring their smartphones up to speed with the latest Android flavor.
The wait for Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich is over for some Canadian folks, since Samsung Canada announced that it has started rolling out the ICS software update for Samsung Galaxy devices. The update will be available on select devices starting now and will continue to reach all devices and carriers.
Samsung devices that can soon hop aboard the Ice Cream Sandwich express include the Galaxy S2, Galaxy S2 LTE, Galaxy S2 LTE HD, and Galaxy S2 X. Tablets aren’t forgotten either, since the Galaxy Note, Galaxy Tab 7.0, Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, Galaxy Tab 8.9 and Galaxy Tab 10.1 will also receive the ICS update soon. And yes, we’re every bit as surprised as you are to see the original Galaxy Tab being listed there.
Rolling out an upgrade across so many variants and carriers takes time you know, so don’t be alarmed if you don’t see it on your Samsung Galaxy device today. Some manual checking won’t hurt either if you want to somewhat speed up the process, though the fresh new version of Android will still be heavily adorned with Samsung’s TouchWiz. Also, keep in mind that the rollout depends on the good will of the carriers too, so your mileage may vary.
Hopefully Samsung Canada’s move will be followed soon by their US counterpart. Samsung has already detailed last week which devices will be eligible for the upgrade, but failed to mention any specific dates. Interestingly, unlike the Canadian list, the original Galaxy Tab 7 isn’t on the US list.
So, have you received your ICS update yet? Tell us in the comments below.
There wouldn't be any sense in downloading the Note ICS update that's being pushed to canada because it is for the LTE note which is a completely different device than the one you presumably have if you're in this forum.
Not the right place bub!!
Canadian Update is not for N7000!!
OTOH
Wazzup Ganjaman!!
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This is not the correct device, even it it was, this should be posted in the ICS sticky.​

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