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Vega / Mobii and MKV

Hi
any news about mkv (h.264) videos whith this tablet?
Hardware is the problem? or android is the problem?
regards

AFAIK, the Vega can't play MKV as this is a limitation of Android (as opposed to the tablet). perhaps in 2.3 / 3.0 we'll see MKV support introduced.

thanks
I can to play mkv with h.264 files, but it's too slow, 4-6 fps only with any players (vital player, meridian, etc)...
saludos

Did you try rockplayer? Have good experiences with it, but haven't tried mkv yet...

You can always use a program like Handbrake to convert it to mp4/h264, which works fine for me.

Remember that MKV is just a container if the base AOSP build of Android suddenly gained the ability to parse Matroska containers it would not magically give you the ability to play High-profile 1080p H.264 video streams, or DTS/AC3 audio that may be contained in the MKV.
Rockplayer and all the ffmpeg-alikes are able to parse the containers but _none_ of them will be able to use the native hardware acceleration and as such will be useless for HD content.

SilentMobius said:
Rockplayer and all the ffmpeg-alikes are able to parse the containers but _none_ of them will be able to use the native hardware acceleration and as such will be useless for HD content.
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This is the problem
I use vital player, the best for mobii/vega, because I can view all videos with AC3 without problem (divx or wmv with AC3). MKV with vital player are slow too...
The best codec for mobii/vega 720p? mp4/h264? wmvhd? I have a lot of mkv/h.264/mkv...
regards

Funny thing is my first tablet the ZT-180 was able to play mkv 720p high profile with DTS beautifully! It stuttered a bit on 1080p, watchable though. This is on a low budget machine, on the vega it should fly! This was in real player for android by the way. Explain that

demonknight9 said:
Funny thing is my first tablet the ZT-180 was able to play mkv 720p high profile with DTS beautifully! It stuttered a bit on 1080p, watchable though. This is on a low budget machine, on the vega it should fly! This was in real player for android by the way. Explain that
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this is the big question WHY??!!!

demonknight9 said:
Funny thing is my first tablet the ZT-180 was able to play mkv 720p high profile with DTS beautifully! It stuttered a bit on 1080p, watchable though. This is on a low budget machine, on the vega it should fly! This was in real player for android by the way. Explain that
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I second this. MKV was perfect on the ZT-180's 2.1 rom. Proof that this is not a limitation of android.

hi,
i have installed rockplayer and mVideoPlayer. it seems that they install some codecs because now i can play 720p and partly 1080p MKV videos on my mobii tegra (vega rom + modaco) via the video player that comes with the rom.
greez

ndroid2k11 said:
hi,
i have installed rockplayer and mVideoPlayer. it seems that they install some codecs because now i can play 720p and partly 1080p MKV videos on my mobii tegra (vega rom + modaco) via the video player that comes with the rom.
greez
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really? witch rom are you using? addons? I can play 720p MKV, bur slowly, at 5-10fps
regards

I can play the mkv files but just no sound.. running vega rom with modaco.

dopeh said:
I can play the mkv files but just no sound.. running vega rom with modaco.
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you can use vitalplayer, the best for me.

demonknight9 said:
Funny thing is my first tablet the ZT-180 was able to play mkv 720p high profile with DTS beautifully! It stuttered a bit on 1080p, watchable though. This is on a low budget machine, on the vega it should fly! This was in real player for android by the way. Explain that
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Because that tablet its _so_ dodgy that the OEM built in MKV/DTV/AC3 decoding into android (like Samsung/etc) and released it without paying for the licences (for DTS and AC3).
If dolby et al notices then the retailers will get a lawsuit.
Though it does mean that there is Android source floating around China that includes MKV parsing. Latest Gingerbread update add WebM so lest see if that comes with a full matroska parser.

pildo said:
really? witch rom are you using? addons? I can play 720p MKV, bur slowly, at 5-10fps
regards
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Advent Vega 1.09 ROM + MoDaCo r8
when i play the movies with rockplayer or mVideoPlayer it's slow, too. But with the original player it works fine. Don't know why

Hi all
Apologies for the thread revival. There's no need to use any third party apps to play MKV files, you can play MKVs using the built in media player. I use Astro file manager and do the following: navigate to file, long-press on the file itself, select "Open As", select "Video", then choose the default media player. It might be easier to have the app recognise it as standard, but this method works. I've tried quite a few 1080p x264 vids and the only thing the Vega struggles with is the audio codecs - it supports AAC, but AFAIK it doesn't support AC3.
EDIT: I should probably mention that I use the default 1.09 ROM, modded with MCR R8.
The reason that third party apps probably get a low FPS is that they do not use the Tegra2 hardware accelerated decoding - the built in player does however.
The core Android system actually supports the MKV container format - it's listed on the spec page; I guess implementation is obviously different for each device. As someone pointed out though, the important thing is the codec in use for each video/audio stream; MKV is just a container format.

Is there a program which can link file extensions with app s?

I believe that mVideoPlayer literally just makes the mkv format available/viewable/whateverable in the stock player, so if you install it, you should just be able to play mkvs in the stock player (mVideoPlayer does not have any codecs, so it will only be able to play the codecs that your device can already play)

most devices can play H264 mkv, hell my phone can even play them with one player or another, the issue here is decoding, the vega simply cannot decode h264 high profile video hence the slow framerates as the player has to switch to software.
Suggesting this is possible by switching to the stock player is just nonesense, those that claim to have good frame rates are NOT playing h264 high profile, the hardware cant do it, period, end of thread.
Note: most "ripped" MKV films / tv files (1 gig usually for TV rips 6 gig + for films) that can be downloaded in 720p and 1080p will be encoded in high profile, you simply wont ever be able to play these with decent frame rates without re-ecoding into a codec tegra can handle like H264 main profile - unless the open source VLC team manage to create their own CPU optimisations when VLC finally come out, even then it wont be buttery smooth.
give it up people, you are going to have to re-encode or not bother using it as media tablet.

Divx

Can anybody confirm if Divx files stream?

If you use qqplayer, vplayer or a number of other market players u can download, you can play divx, mkv, xvid..what ever ur heart wants.

Do they work good. I tried rock pplayer but it doesn't seem to be hardware acceletated

VPlayer loads and I've tried a xvid .avi, and a mkv and neither play. It acts like it's going to but then takes you back to the file list.
Rock player played my MKV but no audio, wouldnt play the avi.

Would love to know if the Xoom can play at least a 720P mkv file. With the hardware it has, it SHOULD be able to play a 1080P mkv file if it had hardware acceleration, which it doesn't.
If the Galaxy tab 10.1 is anything like Samsung's smartphones it will have hardware acceleration on avi and mkv files.

Rockplayer worked fine for me, watch a divx and a mp4.

guardianali said:
If you use qqplayer, vplayer or a number of other market players u can download, you can play divx, mkv, xvid..what ever ur heart wants.
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Just tried vplayer and qqplayer on Xoom. Although they install, they do not work. vplayer will not even play the video and qqplayer attempts to play but the video is jerky and the progress bar is across the middle of the screen.

why not try moboplayer?
it's also a great player, it can play plays a wide array of formats, i enjoy my HD mkv and mp4 files on my XOOM, i just can say it's great indeed!

Buy dice player.
The only player that plays your files with HARDWARE decoding which can save you precious battery life.

So now i have this new Galaxy 10.1v tab... how do i watch videos??

Anyone struck this hurdle yet ?
Got my tab all set up yesterday... charged it over night, played with it today... thought, right... about to go to bed, might load up a few videos to watch...
Well... I think i was expecting to much for it to play anything out of the box when i went looking for the video player app and there isnt one. You can open files in Gallery... but there is another issue... divx/xvid files with avi extensions do not even show up as being on the device. MKV files do. And they play... all be it with no sound. This started me on a quest... over to the Xoom forums to have a look at those guys... download all of their suggestions... Ok, got the divx sorted. every video player i downloaded would play divx/xvid files with ease. no surprise there... still no files showing up in gallery...
The closest i got to playing a 720p mkv file was with rockplayer... but i ran into the similar issues with rockplayer. when i used it to play the mkv files, if i used hardware decoding, crystal clear picture... no sound. If i used software decoding, sound works... but now the picture it all chopped up and way out of sync...
For the moment it looks like it's back to encoding the mkv files back to xvid... As for this device being able to play 1080p video... i wont hold my breath. From what i have seen of how it plays 720p, it may come in the next update, but for now it even appears to be struggling to play 720p let alone 1080p...
Any ideas, tips or trick you have found that works for playing different video types???

I'm using MoboPlayer which downloads the needed codecs from the Android Market. Tried both divx and xvid, works great.

Also using rockplayer. Will try mobo.
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I've also tried QQPlayer which isn't bad and Vital Player, which so far seems to be the smoothest player I've used so far.
I haven't tried mobo yet though.

mobo rulles

no suggestions on MKV yet ??

pegaxs said:
no suggestions on MKV yet ??
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MoboPlayer is supposed to support the mkv container format (haven't tried myself).
Quote from MoboPlayer official site:
"The current Mobo version will not support mkv, mov container format which have built-in subtitle streams, but we will complete this feature as soon as possible."
So, it supports MKV as long as it doesn't contain built-in subtitles. I will try it later tonight and report the results.

mVideoPlayer: mkv + subtitle

Mobo player plays .mkv incl. streams. That is ofc on a Galaxy S phone. On a tegra 2, device as far as I have read, there isn't much luck plying .mkv files as the soc doesn't support them. Go figure.

a500 as movie player

hi, just wanted to share my experience on finding a worjing solution for my movie playing needs:
- my phone is a galaxy S and i expected tegra2 to outperform it in every way, movie-wise, that's not the case.
- normally i use mvideoplayer but since it relies 100% on native decoding, it wont open most of my files, avi, mkv, etc
- i installed vplayer, rockplayer (normal and optimized), qqplayer, moboplayer, besides the bundled nemoplayer and none was able to correctly decode a 720p mkv (1.5gb game of thrones episode). a couple were able to play it with sound, but they all lagged too much.
- for SD XviD rockplayer worked fine but it doesnt support subtitles, qqplayer displayed subtitles but it dropped frames. moboplayer + armv7vfp3 codec decoded the avi correctly and with subtitles.
- 720p youtube "rips" from tubemate worked fine on mvideoplayer, they use mp4 container and most likely base or main profile.
so... for tv shows from torrent, use avi and moboplayer. for hd content, hopefully they'll be 720p and main profile.
anyone knows what kind of file are the "BRRip" flying around on the net?
cheers.
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edit: this should have been in general, sorry, my bad.

Bluray rip
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I had an identical problem: I was also dismayed at not being able to watch a Game of Thrones MKV file!
I gave up on MKV and tried watching a 720p AVI (BRrip in Xvid/AC3) on moboplayer, and it worked flawlessly--even got the subtitles file to work. It's a huge pain in the ass, but converting to xvid/AVI might be the best bet. I'm going to do it remotely on my home PC while I'm at work

yeah, MKV files not working properly or at all is a bit of a bugger, but now i've been converting them into high def (720p) mp4's using some custom settings for Handbrake that i found either here or another forum (can't remember which, lol), works a treat and looks great on the A500!

i looked around for 720p avi files, i didnt think they would look so good.
i still saw some dropped frames but that could have been because i was using CIFS to acces the 2tb hdd on my htpc.
but i still wonder the mp4 BRRips, there's something weird with those filesm even the galaxy S refused to play some of them...
anyway, in short, if available prefer 720p avi...
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moboplayer + armv7vfp3 codec decoded the avi correctly and with subtitles.
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How did you get the subtitles to work? Did you use .sub or .srt subtitles? And witch program to convert?

I have found that if you use rockplayer in hardware mode and your videos are x/h264 video and AAC audio the results are very acceptable playback

@Ramius71: no conversion, just an SD .avi file with .srt subtitles
the .avi was a 174mb tv episode and the .srt downloaded from opensubtitles
@Yatyas: could you give an example please? .mkv or .mp4? i have several .mp4 that play well but most are ripped from youtube or things like that...
downloaded HD movies and TV episodes don't work for me, even in rockplayer...

has anyone tried VLC on the Iconia yet?

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@Yatyas: could you give an example please? .mkv or .mp4? i have several .mp4 that play well but most are ripped from youtube or things like that...
downloaded HD movies and TV episodes don't work for me, even in rockplayer...
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I have found that as long as it is encoded with x.264 or h.264 on the video and AAC on the audio regardless of the wrapper .mkv or .mp4 I get very good performance from the hardware decoding when using Rockplayer.
I have found many .mp4 and x264 files that have AC3 for the audio and I re-encode using handbrake changing just the audio to AAC and everything seems to work well

Playing 720p mkv

I was having quite a few problems playing HD mkv files, tried multiple players. The only player I found that played them well was BS player. Thought I would spread the word, I was rather annoyed that i was going to have to transcode a bunch of movies to play on this tablet but then i tried BS player and was incredibly surprised. Not sure if the pro version is worth the money, im hoping VLC will eventually be able to handle it.
EDIT: With software decoding MX player was able to play them as well. I tried DICE player as well and it also seems to work. For awhile I was having issues with those other 2 players but they seem to work fine now. It still depends a lot on other encoding settings but all these players seem to work fine with 720p mkv.

Vplayer is good also...

all these players can't play videos properly ......I would recommend u to convert video into mp4 or avi using formatfactory for PC .....once converted copy to ur tab and play using mx player or v player or stock ...........the resolution and bitrate adjustments make videos look lot smoother and plays without any hookups ......
HIT THANKS IF I HAVE HELPED

I have no problem with stock player and 720p mkv files as long as you don't use High Profile H.264 encoding. The file size will be a little bigger (than High Profile encodings) but that's about it.

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I would recommend u to convert video into mp4 or avi using formatfactory for PC ...
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Thanx for good advice
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