a500 as movie player - Acer Iconia A500

hi, just wanted to share my experience on finding a worjing solution for my movie playing needs:
- my phone is a galaxy S and i expected tegra2 to outperform it in every way, movie-wise, that's not the case.
- normally i use mvideoplayer but since it relies 100% on native decoding, it wont open most of my files, avi, mkv, etc
- i installed vplayer, rockplayer (normal and optimized), qqplayer, moboplayer, besides the bundled nemoplayer and none was able to correctly decode a 720p mkv (1.5gb game of thrones episode). a couple were able to play it with sound, but they all lagged too much.
- for SD XviD rockplayer worked fine but it doesnt support subtitles, qqplayer displayed subtitles but it dropped frames. moboplayer + armv7vfp3 codec decoded the avi correctly and with subtitles.
- 720p youtube "rips" from tubemate worked fine on mvideoplayer, they use mp4 container and most likely base or main profile.
so... for tv shows from torrent, use avi and moboplayer. for hd content, hopefully they'll be 720p and main profile.
anyone knows what kind of file are the "BRRip" flying around on the net?
cheers.
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edit: this should have been in general, sorry, my bad.

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I had an identical problem: I was also dismayed at not being able to watch a Game of Thrones MKV file!
I gave up on MKV and tried watching a 720p AVI (BRrip in Xvid/AC3) on moboplayer, and it worked flawlessly--even got the subtitles file to work. It's a huge pain in the ass, but converting to xvid/AVI might be the best bet. I'm going to do it remotely on my home PC while I'm at work

yeah, MKV files not working properly or at all is a bit of a bugger, but now i've been converting them into high def (720p) mp4's using some custom settings for Handbrake that i found either here or another forum (can't remember which, lol), works a treat and looks great on the A500!

i looked around for 720p avi files, i didnt think they would look so good.
i still saw some dropped frames but that could have been because i was using CIFS to acces the 2tb hdd on my htpc.
but i still wonder the mp4 BRRips, there's something weird with those filesm even the galaxy S refused to play some of them...
anyway, in short, if available prefer 720p avi...
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fortelv999 said:
moboplayer + armv7vfp3 codec decoded the avi correctly and with subtitles.
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How did you get the subtitles to work? Did you use .sub or .srt subtitles? And witch program to convert?

I have found that if you use rockplayer in hardware mode and your videos are x/h264 video and AAC audio the results are very acceptable playback

@Ramius71: no conversion, just an SD .avi file with .srt subtitles
the .avi was a 174mb tv episode and the .srt downloaded from opensubtitles
@Yatyas: could you give an example please? .mkv or .mp4? i have several .mp4 that play well but most are ripped from youtube or things like that...
downloaded HD movies and TV episodes don't work for me, even in rockplayer...

has anyone tried VLC on the Iconia yet?

fortelv999 said:
@Yatyas: could you give an example please? .mkv or .mp4? i have several .mp4 that play well but most are ripped from youtube or things like that...
downloaded HD movies and TV episodes don't work for me, even in rockplayer...
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I have found that as long as it is encoded with x.264 or h.264 on the video and AAC on the audio regardless of the wrapper .mkv or .mp4 I get very good performance from the hardware decoding when using Rockplayer.
I have found many .mp4 and x264 files that have AC3 for the audio and I re-encode using handbrake changing just the audio to AAC and everything seems to work well

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[Q] MKV Playback

Removing a bunch of preloaded bloatware, I also tossed the My Files app and have been searching for a way to get MKV play back to work. I'm noticing RockPlayer has a way to force System Player, which I would assume is the phones default video player.
I've loaded 3 videos onto my phone, all of which have subtitles. One is a 480p with subtitles, plays fine perfect frame rate, etc. however there are no displayed subtitles. Rockplayer does have subtitles enabled.
Second video is a 720p with subtitles. Video plays fine and smooth, no subtitles displaying.
Third video is also 720p with subtitles and those are working. However, the MKV uses codecs for variable frame rate, which make the video lag terribly in certain parts. Playing this file directly through RockPlayer causes a ton of artifacting and lag about four times more than I am experiencing with the stock player.
Does anyone know how to fix these subtitle problems, or know if there is an additional or better way to load the videos than using RockPlayer?
Edit: And on that note, is there a way/app that will allow choosing specific audio track for a video, or will it always be stuck on the default for the file?
Couple things. The default media player on the epic has ZERO options. You can not configure it as far as I know. However, it plays 720p\1080p MKV files flawlessly. I usually navigate to my video files with a file explorer and open them with the default video player. If subtitles don't work out of the box, then you're pretty much screwed. I'm willing to bet the movie player on the other SGS phones have more options.
Rock player is a piece of doodoo. While it can play MKV files, it chokes on anything remotely high definition. Video playback is all kinds of terrible. Doesn't seem to be able to make use of the Epic's graphics processing.
Until Sammy gives us a video player with more options, I think you're out of luck with subtitles
Just a suggestion but hardcode the subs to the video file.
i too been looking for a video player that can play mkv with the subtitles
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i too been looking for a video player that can play mkv with the subtitles
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You can try rock player, but it's really choppy with high quality movies. I think it supports subtitles. You can try it. It's free on the market.
hydralisk said:
However, it plays 720p\1080p MKV files flawlessly. I usually navigate to my video files with a file explorer and open them with the default video player.
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For some reason, I can't get any of my 1080p mkvs to work. Do they need to be encoded in any particular way?
my problem is that the stock video player wont play any mp4 or mkv vids with more than 2 channels of audio. almost everything i have is 6 channel and wont play on the stock player. as stated above, i find rock player also to be boo boo at hi def playback. i can use headphones and get 5.1 audio, but not through the device speakers. any help?
"5.1" is simulated using a filter, but that method requires headphones to work, so that it can control exactly what each ear hears.
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Hey..if you guys haven't noticed mvideoplayer added MKV internal subtitle support for SGS phones..and from what I hear it uses the default hardware acceleration rather then software like rockplayer
austin thats another video player for you to try lol..if not I suggest taking it to the i9000 forum as for now all the development has been there and they had the phones longer.
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Hey..if you guys haven't noticed mvideoplayer added MKV internal subtitle support for SGS phones..and from what I hear it uses the default hardware acceleration rather then software like rockplayer
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Oh thank you for pointing this out! I just tested a few 720p MKV files and they played great! Not only that, but it was made by the same person who crated act1 video player. It remembers the position of every video you start and stop. I love it
I was hardcoding subs until I foudn mvideoplayer a couple of days ago. works fine on 80% of external subtitle formats, even allows positioning and font control. it is great.
no more hardcoding subs or worrying about demuxing and increasing audio gain for me!
Cool, thanks for the recommendation. RockPlayer couldn't do HD, so I was looking for another player that was actually hardware accelerated.
And it's free to boot!
I love you guys. This is exactly what I needed.
works perfect with my 720p anime videos with subtitles. had been looking forever and finally this program did the trick. thanks guys
I loaded up an MKV TV show with 720p h.264 and 6 channel AC-3 and it worked flawlessly. I tried playing a 1080p mp4 file with 6 channel AC-3 and couldn't open it. I'm going to try a 1080p mp4 with 6 channel AAC.
If that doesn't work then I'll be pretty disappointed but not by much. I know the S5PC110 supports 1080p recording and playback. It's likely Samsung lowered the DSP clock to save power.
arashed31 said:
I loaded up an MKV TV show with 720p h.264 and 6 channel AC-3 and it worked flawlessly. I tried playing a 1080p mp4 file with 6 channel AC-3 and couldn't open it. I'm going to try a 1080p mp4 with 6 channel AAC.
If that doesn't work then I'll be pretty disappointed but not by much. I know the S5PC110 supports 1080p recording and playback. It's likely Samsung lowered the DSP clock to save power.
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The only point in trying to put on a 1080p movie is if that is the format you already have. If you're ripping your own movies, you should probably rip them to the resolution of the phone. Anything higher than 480p is overkill. 1080p is double the resolution of the phone. Have you tried a 1080p MKV?
For some reason when i try to copy over a 1080p movie that is 6GB, it says the file is too large for the destination device's file system... even though I have about 11GB free.
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The only point in trying to put on a 1080p movie is if that is the format you already have. If you're ripping your own movies, you should probably rip them to the resolution of the phone. Anything higher than 480p is overkill. 1080p is double the resolution of the phone. Have you tried a 1080p MKV?
For some reason when i try to copy over a 1080p movie that is 6GB, it says the file is too large for the destination device's file system... even though I have about 11GB free.
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Thats normal..you have to break it up into either 2gb pieces or 4gb pieces (don't remember off the top of my head)...and it will work...this is actually where Kies I hear is good for..it automatically breaks up the video file for you if you use it. (unfortunately due to TW3 being missing we can't use Kies)
The limit is 4GB and this is due to the FAT32 file system. If android could read exFAT or NTFS there wouldn't be that limitation.
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The only point in trying to put on a 1080p movie is if that is the format you already have. If you're ripping your own movies, you should probably rip them to the resolution of the phone. Anything higher than 480p is overkill. 1080p is double the resolution of the phone. Have you tried a 1080p MKV?
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The only 1080p MKVs I have are over 4GB. Even if the phone could play 1080p MKVs, it can't play the DTS audio in the movies I have.
I usually get m2ts contained movies with AC-3 audio that stream perfectly to my Xbox 360 and also work locally on PS3s.

Divx

Can anybody confirm if Divx files stream?
If you use qqplayer, vplayer or a number of other market players u can download, you can play divx, mkv, xvid..what ever ur heart wants.
Do they work good. I tried rock pplayer but it doesn't seem to be hardware acceletated
VPlayer loads and I've tried a xvid .avi, and a mkv and neither play. It acts like it's going to but then takes you back to the file list.
Rock player played my MKV but no audio, wouldnt play the avi.
Would love to know if the Xoom can play at least a 720P mkv file. With the hardware it has, it SHOULD be able to play a 1080P mkv file if it had hardware acceleration, which it doesn't.
If the Galaxy tab 10.1 is anything like Samsung's smartphones it will have hardware acceleration on avi and mkv files.
Rockplayer worked fine for me, watch a divx and a mp4.
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If you use qqplayer, vplayer or a number of other market players u can download, you can play divx, mkv, xvid..what ever ur heart wants.
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Just tried vplayer and qqplayer on Xoom. Although they install, they do not work. vplayer will not even play the video and qqplayer attempts to play but the video is jerky and the progress bar is across the middle of the screen.
why not try moboplayer?
it's also a great player, it can play plays a wide array of formats, i enjoy my HD mkv and mp4 files on my XOOM, i just can say it's great indeed!
Buy dice player.
The only player that plays your files with HARDWARE decoding which can save you precious battery life.

So now i have this new Galaxy 10.1v tab... how do i watch videos??

Anyone struck this hurdle yet ?
Got my tab all set up yesterday... charged it over night, played with it today... thought, right... about to go to bed, might load up a few videos to watch...
Well... I think i was expecting to much for it to play anything out of the box when i went looking for the video player app and there isnt one. You can open files in Gallery... but there is another issue... divx/xvid files with avi extensions do not even show up as being on the device. MKV files do. And they play... all be it with no sound. This started me on a quest... over to the Xoom forums to have a look at those guys... download all of their suggestions... Ok, got the divx sorted. every video player i downloaded would play divx/xvid files with ease. no surprise there... still no files showing up in gallery...
The closest i got to playing a 720p mkv file was with rockplayer... but i ran into the similar issues with rockplayer. when i used it to play the mkv files, if i used hardware decoding, crystal clear picture... no sound. If i used software decoding, sound works... but now the picture it all chopped up and way out of sync...
For the moment it looks like it's back to encoding the mkv files back to xvid... As for this device being able to play 1080p video... i wont hold my breath. From what i have seen of how it plays 720p, it may come in the next update, but for now it even appears to be struggling to play 720p let alone 1080p...
Any ideas, tips or trick you have found that works for playing different video types???
I'm using MoboPlayer which downloads the needed codecs from the Android Market. Tried both divx and xvid, works great.
Also using rockplayer. Will try mobo.
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I've also tried QQPlayer which isn't bad and Vital Player, which so far seems to be the smoothest player I've used so far.
I haven't tried mobo yet though.
mobo rulles
no suggestions on MKV yet ??
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no suggestions on MKV yet ??
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MoboPlayer is supposed to support the mkv container format (haven't tried myself).
Quote from MoboPlayer official site:
"The current Mobo version will not support mkv, mov container format which have built-in subtitle streams, but we will complete this feature as soon as possible."
So, it supports MKV as long as it doesn't contain built-in subtitles. I will try it later tonight and report the results.
mVideoPlayer: mkv + subtitle
Mobo player plays .mkv incl. streams. That is ofc on a Galaxy S phone. On a tegra 2, device as far as I have read, there isn't much luck plying .mkv files as the soc doesn't support them. Go figure.

[Q] Copy Movies ??

Hi .
SO i just got my Glaxy tab and i am trying to move a few video files from my PC to the tab .
When i try to copy them Windows 7 suggest me to convert them .
So when i am copying MP4 files without convert they look so small that i can bearly see anything . But if i try to convert them i takes about 3 hours to copy a 500MB file ?
When trying to copy WMV file without converting it doesnt work ...
Any suggestion or best practice on moving video files to the tab ?
I have movies in mp4 and m4v and they also look small in the included video player. However, in mVideoPlayer they fill the screen just fine.
I just downloaded a 700mb file via Dropbox and it took about 25 minutes.
Convert them using your own software then transfer them over, or don't convert and use a different video player that can stretch your video (Rock Player, mVideoPlayer, VPlayer).
imo this is the place the tablet is the most lacking - default video player is absolutely balls.
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Hi .
SO i just got my Glaxy tab and i am trying to move a few video files from my PC to the tab .
When i try to copy them Windows 7 suggest me to convert them .
So when i am copying MP4 files without convert they look so small that i can bearly see anything . But if i try to convert them i takes about 3 hours to copy a 500MB file ?
When trying to copy WMV file without converting it doesnt work ...
Any suggestion or best practice on moving video files to the tab ?
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Use MoboPlayer. Its free and they have a codec for 3.1 tabs that plays anything. You can also view default size, full screen, vertical stretch, and 16:9. Definitely the was to go...just drag/drop, deny conversion, and play with MoboPlayer.
MKV Video Format Supported?
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Use MoboPlayer. Its free and they have a codec for 3.1 tabs that plays anything. You can also view default size, full screen, vertical stretch, and 16:9. Definitely the was to go...just drag/drop, deny conversion, and play with MoboPlayer.
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Does that include mkv HD movies as well?
Yeah, supports 720p mkv, dunno about 1080p.
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Yeah, supports 720p mkv, dunno about 1080p.
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It did not support 1080p for me. I had the same video file in both 720p and 1080p. Mobo played the 720p perfectly, but would not open the 1080p version.
I dont think you need to convert anything. Just copy the file and play it in Mobo Player or Rock player. I think you can ignore the Windows notification and try the playback on the Tab first.
720p works fine
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It did not support 1080p for me. I had the same video file in both 720p and 1080p. Mobo played the 720p perfectly, but would not open the 1080p version.
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I just tested the 720p and it works beautifully. Also works for mkv movies I just loaded! Fantastic!!
Another option is to use a program like xmedia recode to convert the file into native resolution for the tab; and in a container which is compatible, then push it to you tab.
This is usually how I get my movies to work on my droid; haven't tried it yet, but it's on the list of things to do tonight.
for those that say they've had luck with the MKV container, can you share your encoding profile? I've not been able to get a high profile encoded video to play in an mkv container. I can demux & remux into an mp4 container and the same video works. But, I loose the ac3 audio.
Still at work.
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for those that say they've had luck with the MKV container, can you share your encoding profile? I've not been able to get a high profile encoded video to play in an mkv container. I can demux & remux into an mp4 container and the same video works. But, I loose the ac3 audio.
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I didnt encode the mkv movie that I have...I snagged it from my brother but when I get home tonight I'll look it up and post it back here.
Transferring movies
I usually use SwiFTP and Cyberduck to transfer movies to my IO tab. Since I'm on a mac, there's no native usb transfer capability, and it only takes about 3 minutes to transfer a 700mb avi.
Thanks.
Mine are encoded with High L4.0. I think MKVs will only work if they are L3.1 or lower.
I for one would just let windows convertthem. It takes forever but it works perfectly. Did this with RED 720p and rhe movie played flawlessly in diff media playes. Didnt do it with a 720p episode of southpark and all media players had good audio but video was lagging behind. Mobo almost had it in sync but even that was off by a bit. Gonna go convert a bunch of music videos andput those suckers onhere
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I just tested the 720p and it works beautifully. Also works for mkv movies I just loaded! Fantastic!!
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then what the heck is wrong with my 10.1, it plays video great, but no sound in moboplayer

Playing 720p mkv

I was having quite a few problems playing HD mkv files, tried multiple players. The only player I found that played them well was BS player. Thought I would spread the word, I was rather annoyed that i was going to have to transcode a bunch of movies to play on this tablet but then i tried BS player and was incredibly surprised. Not sure if the pro version is worth the money, im hoping VLC will eventually be able to handle it.
EDIT: With software decoding MX player was able to play them as well. I tried DICE player as well and it also seems to work. For awhile I was having issues with those other 2 players but they seem to work fine now. It still depends a lot on other encoding settings but all these players seem to work fine with 720p mkv.
Vplayer is good also...
all these players can't play videos properly ......I would recommend u to convert video into mp4 or avi using formatfactory for PC .....once converted copy to ur tab and play using mx player or v player or stock ...........the resolution and bitrate adjustments make videos look lot smoother and plays without any hookups ......
HIT THANKS IF I HAVE HELPED
I have no problem with stock player and 720p mkv files as long as you don't use High Profile H.264 encoding. The file size will be a little bigger (than High Profile encodings) but that's about it.
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I would recommend u to convert video into mp4 or avi using formatfactory for PC ...
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Thanx for good advice
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