How is the GPS working with Froyo vs. Eclair? - POLL - Galaxy S I9000 General

I tested again with JP6 now and my results are very disappointing! Before with Eclair it was all much better!
JP6: almost impossible to get a fix and always inaccurate
JF3, JM5: fix in 15 seconds and very accurate!
JM7 was slightly worse then JM5 and JF3 in my experiences.
How the hell is that possible? I thought / read that JP6 / JPM is much better with GPS :S

FYI: We say "Worst"
And the title is biaised, you "tell" that the GPS is worst, and ask if we agree... you can only assume that the result will tend in that dirrection.
On the topic, well, since none of those release are "official", I can't realy judge on speculations and pre-release!
But then, I don't have massive issue running JH2... On a 6km run I got about 200m of "distortion", so it's only about 3% margin of error.

t1mman said:
FYI: We say "Worst"
And the title is biaised, you "tell" that the GPS is worst, and ask if we agree... you can only assume that the result will tend in that dirrection.
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In the context OP is using it, it's actually just "worse"

Motjida said:
In the context OP is using it, it's actually just "worse"
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http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_worser_a_word

My GPS seems better and locks on more or less straight away

I'm in the car now and it's magnificent for once! can't text much lol.

MY gps is more worse. please fix it

aarisaanig said:
MY gps is more worse. please fix it
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And now a double infinitive..
I hate bad GranDma

Mine is the worstest.

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gps poll on new leaked firmware

So, whoever is running this and tested GPS, what's your take on how it fixed your GPS or didn't.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780906
For me its great. I get good locks and fast. Tracks me very well on Google maps and mytracks. Rerouting is almost instantly and precise. It is definitely good enough now for me to be happy...
Edit: this thread was intended for those that flashed the whole firmware, but has gotten mixed with the flashed GPS fix.SO, THOSE WHO FLASHED ONLY THE GPS FILES PLEASE SPECIFY IN A POST FOR BETTER POLL RESULTS. THANKS
Regardless lets rejoice this is working a whole hell of a lot better...
I'm waiting for the OTA myself, but that is definitely good to hear!
works great here!
locks on to 7-10 sats in mere seconds!!!
tracks well, accurate
THe GPS nows locks on within 10 seconds and I am getting from 5-8 sats out of 10 or 11. A drastic change from before when it would lock on in about 45 seconds to a minute, if it locked on and at all and have from 0 to1 and if the moon was right 2. Also before this update it would lock on and off continually and now in a day and a half it seems to just stay locked on. Very happy with it now as it is now usable. Cardio Trainer now works and is consistent as is My Tracks. I must say a world of difference.
Before flashing this I was lucky to lock onto 2 sats. After flashing I locked onto 6/9. Seems accurate enough. Will test with mytracks tomorrow.
Excellent here, Tracks perfectly, Locks onto 9 sats w/o issues, Those that said it was a hardware issue, I expect a full apology, LMAO.
Put just the GPS fix from this thread and tremendous improvement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782242
Locks 10/10 sats outside and 20 ft accuracy!
A great improvement. Locked on in 3 seconds flat. It's pretty much gone now.
And people said samsung was horrible.
This message is brought to you by my Samsung Vibrant, using the XDA app.
I didn't feel like flashing the entire rom so I just used the GPS Update file and its working great. I have never had a lock indoors with the Vibrant and it locked in a few seconds to 6. In the morning I will try it outdoors.
rakeshchn said:
Put just the GPS fix from this thread and tremendous improvement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782242
Locks 10/10 sats outside and 20 ft accuracy!
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People doing this shouldn't post here because there could be other changes under the skin that DON'T change with this method.
heygrl said:
People doing this shouldn't post here because there could be other changes under the skin that DON'T change with this method.
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Do what? Sure there may be other changes but why say they shouldn't post here?
Personally I could give a rip what other changes there are or to come. The fact is the zip file either works or it simply lowers the required threshold of the GPS to get a lock.
So either we are really seeing an improvement or Samsung is basically lowering their standards and hoping we will too. To say we shouldn't post here is well I don't know insane. The GPS still needs work, but its one step farther than we have been since the phone came out.
For the record I voted: gps is better but still needs work
10meters is still bad in my opinion, but its better than 30meters that I had before and I'll take that since it was what 30seconds worth of work on my behalf.
kizer said:
Personally I could give a rip what other changes there are or to come. The fact is the zip file either works or it simply lowers the required threshold of the GPS to get a lock.
So either we are really seeing an improvement or Samsung is basically lowering their standards and hoping we will too.
To say we shouldn't post here is well I don't know insane. The GPS still needs work, but its one step farther than we have been since the phone came out.
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zoid_99 said:
Do what? Sure there may be other changes but why say they shouldn't post here?
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Because it's pollution, it's not the same thing we've done. Why don't we just have people posting with stock Vibrant's too? The OP and Title specifically states "GPS with New Leaked Firmware" and not files pulled from the firmware that probably changes half of what needs to be changed.
kizer said:
For the record I voted: gps is better but still needs work
10meters is still bad in my opinion, but its better than 30meters that I had before and I'll take that since it was what 30seconds worth of work on my behalf.
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I agree with this. To me it looks like you nailed it saying they lowered the threshold for individual sat locks. Accuracy is still bad and I still drive through buildings using mytracks.
Tried the fix, the GPS still isn't any better. Still hoping for the best from Samsung.
versedout said:
Tried the fix, the GPS still isn't any better. Still hoping for the best from Samsung.
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What "FIX"? ugh
zoid_99 said:
I agree with this. To me it looks like you nailed it saying they lowered the threshold for individual sat locks. Accuracy is still bad and I still drive through buildings using mytracks.
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It quite obviously receives the signal a LOT faster than before, lowering the "threshold for a lock" won't improve that. You need a signal before you can get a lock
My Vibrant with the firmware updated is sitting next to MOTOROLA CLIQ at 5M, while the CLIQ is at 3M both in GPS Status and not Google Maps. Not only that but the compass is pointing in the right direction! I wonder how the .zip file fixes that.
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Do what? Sure there may be other changes but why say they shouldn't post here?
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zoid - you have no idea who you're arguing with - don't waste bandwidth
as to the unofficial firmware, i flashed it, and all i can say is "wow" - where my gps had gotten so bad it's accuracy circle was somewhere in the area of 1 mile, never getting a steady lock on more than 2 sats, after the flash it went to 7-8 locked out of 12 in view
did a 9 mile circuitous drive, all secondary roads, even did a circle in a gas station that had a huge metal canopy over the pumps - MyTrack logs was perfect except for one anomaly - it showed me clipping my neighbor's lawn by maybe 10 ft when i turned the corner at his house. Odd thing was i stopped before making the turn to look at the MyTracks map and it showed me at the very corner - it was later looking at the log i saw what it had recorded.
the other changes were all great, but this was what i was looking for, GPS wise - the entire trip it showed me in the actual lane i was in (some of those roads were 4 laners), and except for the one incident above never showed me in the weeds or 75 ft over in someone's yard or driving thru their house
i had the lag fix before flashing and was pulling 2000 - 2200 benchmarks before, now i'm pulling 850-900 but everything is as snappy to open as with the lag fix, markets, camera, etc
unfortunately i sent the vibrant back to tmo yesterday - had a 16th of sept return date, and there was one other issue with the screen that had developed, and in doing the flash something happened to the volume button - it had been loose, and it got "rattly" loose when pulling up the download screen
figure i'll wait till the g2 comes out and see if i like it better or buy another vibrant, but thumbs up to sammy on this firmware - i really had gotten cynical they would or could pull this off
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What "FIX"? ugh
It quite obviously receives the signal a LOT faster than before, lowering the "threshold for a lock" won't improve that. You need a signal before you can get a lock
My Vibrant with the firmware updated is sitting next to MOTOROLA CLIQ at 5M, while the CLIQ is at 3M both in GPS Status and not Google Maps. Not only that but the compass is pointing in the right direction! I wonder how the .zip file fixes that.
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I can tell you how it the .zip file fixes it.... It doesn't.
The reason I said it appears to be lowering the threshold is that it looks to me like the signals are no different than before the "zip fix" however in GPS Status 6-8 of them go green and "fix". That appears to be the only difference. I'm not seeing any difference in accuracy.
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Because it's pollution, it's not the same thing we've done. Why don't we just have people posting with stock Vibrant's too? The OP and Title specifically states "GPS with New Leaked Firmware" and not files pulled from the firmware that probably changes half of what needs to be changed.
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I agree with this. If you didn't flash the whole rom but only gps files, who says your getting the whole fix?
I say 10 meters is good enough for me. Maybe not some of you but I can find the other 10 meters with my eyes that the GPS wont. No biggie.
I agree also with heygrl as now this poll isn't proper, it was supposed to be the whole leaked rom not just files, so now we may be getting 2 different results...
Whatever the case, both the leaked rom and GPS files seem to be working nicely. Just don't know if the majority of those good now are from the whole rom or just GPS files etc.
I did the whole ROM, and glad that I did.
It is much better than the JFD.
Plus, I don't need a lagfix.
I didn't buy the phone to run quadrant on it.
If it feels snappy and fast, that's good enought for me.
No lag here on JI2

Captivate Froyo Leak

As we are aware that there has been a official Froyo release for the captivate. Ive done some reading and cannot find conclusivly if things have been fixed as this may well be a good view of what the international version will look like.
The questions i have is
1. Is the GPS fix a completed fix and all is now well with teh gps.
2. Is JIT enabled and does it improve the speed.
3. Is the lag issue no gone or will we need to do a lag fix.
4. What other improvements are there? and whats not fixed?
Cheers guys if anything this will allow us to discuss the leak from our i9000 point of view.
You know there's a thread for this in the Captivate forums, right?
To save you some time, here's what I've gathered from the mammoth thread:
immyh said:
The questions i have is
1. Is the GPS fix a completed fix and all is now well with teh gps.
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Some claim that the GPS is working better. Some also claim that it hasn't made much difference.
2. Is JIT enabled and does it improve the speed.
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JIT is enabled but the software hasn't been optimised for the SGS' processor yet.
3. Is the lag issue no gone or will we need to do a lag fix.
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According to some, there is less lag. But as with the GPS fix some are still claiming that there is still lag.
4. What other improvements are there? and whats not fixed?
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See this article and this xda-developers thread.
thanks for the update but i had seen those and like you mention its a mixed bag so i just wanted to get an overall feel of what the version is like as alot of people complain endlessly and they seem to be the ones posting well as the ones that are happy post less as they have nothing to complain about.
immyh said:
thanks for the update but i had seen those and like you mention its a mixed bag so i just wanted to get an overall feel of what the version is like as alot of people complain endlessly and they seem to be the ones posting well as the ones that are happy post less as they have nothing to complain about.
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It is unlikely that lag has been fixed as Samsung is still using the RFS file system. The problem with the lag is that it gets worse over time so even those claiming they have no lag immediately after installing new ROM will probably get it after a few days.
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GPS is definitely NOT fixed.
Leaked FROYO on Captivate - excellent so far
ATT Captivate
One of the pre-Nov 6, 2010 Korean machines - and, yes, it has had the random turn-off issue both pre and after upgrade to FROYO.
Use LauncherPro for the Home Screen.
Used SuperOneClickv1.7-ShortFuse to root.
Working around the random turn-off with NoBars app - we'll see if it works.
RESULTS:
Phone is WAY faster than 2.1
GPS works fine
Good new additions and look in Settings
Apps I use simply do NOT FORCECLOSE! ...like some did incessantly with 2.1
Of course, voided warranty, but phone is now fast, stable, and seems to be much more reliable.
Andrew
Orlando
ATT Captivate FROYO update re random shut-down....
Well, I know there are threads about this - ones I've seen are closed.
So, a quick update just in case anyone finds this useful:
The random shut down continued, despite NoBars app.
Installed APN OnOff. Turned it ON, disabling 3G/EDGE/GPRS, and after 3 hrs, no turning off. Turned it APN back off, and noticed the screen would go blank, and I could bring it back by pressing power button without then having to enter my security code, every time something accessed 3G/EDGE/GPRS. Put phone into standby - shut itself down within 10-15 mins.
Solution I am trying: following above I went into sync settings and disabled Background Data, and Auto-sync. So far so good - no shut down.... if it does, it does look like the APN OnOff app will prevent this, you'd just have to turn it off when needing to use the 3G/EDGE/GPRS.
Andrew
Orlando

GPS bug fixed with OCLF

Has anybody else experienced this? My GPS was all over the place before I ran the OCLF. Now it is spot on all the time. Fast fix AND on track all the time.
Now that's interesting. And you didn't change anything else bar installing oclf? Might be worth a try, I used to use oclf before I started using SpeedMod kernel for lag fix. What settings did you use?
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Nope, did not do anything else. Just ran OCLF v. 2
Nice....
borchgrevink said:
Nope, did not do anything else. Just ran OCLF v. 2
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it looks like it fixed mine on Captivate, leaked Froyo...
I'm getting 10 satellites fix in less then 10 seconds, 5 -10 meters accuracy...
Thanks for bringing that up, i wasn't gonna test it anyway
Cheers
Whats OCLF??
I just got my Galaxy S today and the GPS sucks at picking up signals!
It is an app used to fix some lag for the SGS.
You can find it on the market, Ryanza OCLF, it's One Click Lag Fix
Send it back - seriously - I have one and would get rid of it in a heartbeat because of such bad GPS problems. It doesn't get any sort of useful GPS fix. The Nexus S is supposedly a bit better so at least get that instead if you can't wait for Galaxy S 2
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Nope, did not do anything else. Just ran OCLF v. 2
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The thing is this... Use it for a few days with maps, nav, etc then tell us if its still fixed. A few good locks means nothing. In my experience the random inaccuracy is never really fixed... It's a faulty hardware design.
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just to point out mine always says im at my front door or in next doors house if im sitting in my dining room so in my opinion its pretty acurate on the galaxy s i have
radeon_x said:
The thing is this... Use it for a few days with maps, nav, etc then tell us if its still fixed. A few good locks means nothing. In my experience the random inaccuracy is never really fixed... It's a faulty hardware design.
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Nope, it works CONSISTANTLY/ALWAYS after I ran the lag fix (over long routes)... Worked very erraticly before.
Hey, guys! I'm not sure if it's just me, but I just can't seem to run a Direction thing. I can't get my sgs to show me the route from my location to others at all. I live in southeast asia. Whenever i try it, it says, "transits routing isn't available...bla bla bla".
P.S. I'm rolling on 2.2 with oclf lagfix. 1850 benchmark score
Any idea WHY OCLF would help? Ask Ryanza? anyone with a clean phone see if v 2.2 does the same?
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Hey, guys! I'm not sure if it's just me, but I just can't seem to run a Direction thing. I can't get my sgs to show me the route from my location to others at all. I live in southeast asia. Whenever i try it, it says, "transits routing isn't available...bla bla bla".
P.S. I'm rolling on 2.2 with oclf lagfix. 1850 benchmark score
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As far as I know, route planning and satelite navigation are not available in all countries. This is a Google thing, not a SGS thing.
How to check number of sateltie lock??
Hi, I'm using OCLF but i really don't know how to check number of
satelites lock in whenever to go Map or Navigation??
Thanks
Could it be just a speed thing?
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imkr1 said:
Hi, I'm using OCLF but i really don't know how to check number of
satelites lock in whenever to go Map or Navigation??
Thanks
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'GPS Test' free on the market place.

GPS Fix - Where is it up to???

Hi all,
I have almost decided that the Galaxy S is going to be my next phone but just wanted to check what the current state of the GPS problem is (yes I have googled but can't find any definitive answer).
Have samsung fixed this and if so what is GPS reception like, how long does it take to pick up a signal etc. How does the GPS chipset compare to the HTC Hero?
Cheers,
Michael
Its not flawless....but works decent enough. The update frequency is slow and has minor accuracy issues, but something you can live with.
Why not wait for a couple months and get a dual core based phone? or even the nexus s instead
i was leaning towards the Galaxy S due to its relatively low second hand price (I have seen some go for just over £200). Moving from a HTC Hero as I am getting more and more frustrated by how much the keyboard and software in general lags and could do with a bigger screen.
Quite like the look of the HTC Desire HD but battery life concerns me.
Nexus S seems over priced for an average handset to me.
iPhone 4 very nice but too expensive and lack of Googlemaps nav is a big downer.
Everything about the Galaxy S seems nice except for this GPS issue...
It is clearly not fixed.
I tested 3 different Galaxy S with 2.1 and one that I upgraded to 2.2 (JL2) and all of them had a broken GPS. It gets a lock, but it is imprecise. Sometimes it think that you are on the next street.<
Never had this problem with: hero, milestone and optimus one.
what about the 2.2.1 roms? have heard some people have had more success with these... anyone tried these?
mine was useless but is much better with 2.2.1
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It has gone from busted to plausible, but still has a bit to go before actually being confirmed.
Sent from my personal Dis-organizer GT-I9000.
You guys should upgrade to JPY, 2.2.1
I get a lock everytime within 10 seconds
2.2.1 working great 4 me also.. no jumping around or loosing lock while navigating.. have tested 4 over 2 hours now..
BlackDino said:
You guys should upgrade to JPY, 2.2.1
I get a lock everytime within 10 seconds
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Lock time has never been an issue for me. The problem is that the GPS is wrong/not precise.
BlackDino said:
You guys should upgrade to JPY, 2.2.1
I get a lock everytime within 10 seconds
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Same with JPU 2.2.1 roms are just perfect
If locking is not your problem, Da_G has made some awesome progress in tracking over in the Captivate forum. Try out his updates. Really interesting thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881941
What we really need is tracks to show how good the latest firmware is...
exadeci said:
Same with JPU 2.2.1 roms are just perfect
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It's not an option for all of us. If I flash a ROM not made for Bell Canada, I loose support for my locale.
Auzy said:
What we really need is tracks to show how good the latest firmware is...
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Tell me how to do the tracks and I will do them. I am also experiencing very (dramatically?) improved GPS after the official update to 2.2. Previously GPS Status was showing a lot of satellites, but only a few (3-5) locked. Now it's 10/10 or 9/9 ... Haven't tested it too much around big buildings though (just briefly and was similar to results from my G1).
Auzy said:
What we really need is tracks to show how good the latest firmware is...
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I'll try to record some track with 2.2.1, but the improvement is noticeable.
Maybe it won't be accurate enough for fitness use, but at least it doesn't jump around in a 100 meter range randomly.
Now, for the first time ever my GPS is useable. Not perfect, but reaches the minimum necessary to be useable.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=200899946886418974283.000498631226c188839f0
Google maps may not be 100% accurate here. Track was recorded from a car. Galaxy S with JPY seems to overshoot on corners, but certainly it is good enough for car navigation.
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GPS works much much better since firmware based en 2.2.1. My lock time switch from 1 or 2 minutes for 5/6 satts to 10/15 seconds with 8/11 satts. Accurancy was a bit better with JPU (nearly always 5 meters) but with JPY it's now between 5 and 10 meters.
TLDR: GPS is quite usable now with 2.2.1 ROM.
Read...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881941
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878970
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853698

need info from someone running stock rom (rooted or unrooted)

i'm trying to get an approximation of how much time the android system uses the sensors. froyo, preferably EC05, but EB13 welcome too
murso74 said:
i'm trying to get an approximation of how much time the android system uses the sensors. froyo, preferably EC05, but EB13 welcome too
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Couple of pics. hope they help. Stock, unrooted EC05
thanks... wasn't expecting it to be so high on stock.. how long have you been unplugged? btw looks like u got the gallery bug going there
murso74 said:
thanks... wasn't expecting it to be so high on stock.. how long have you been unplugged? btw looks like u got the gallery bug going there
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What, you though it was a ROM bug? What a dumb idea.
k0nane said:
What, you though it was a ROM bug? What a dumb idea.
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no treats for me
i really dont' remember seeing that much sensor activity while stock... i could be completely wrong...
for the record i LOVE the rom =P
murso74 said:
i really dont' remember seeing that much sensor activity while stock... i could be completely wrong...
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I assure you, I didn't sprinkle any magic fail dust on it.
k0nane said:
I assure you, I didn't sprinkle any magic fail dust on it.
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very possible that you farted on it though
Actually those might not help. I forgot that I've been plugging my phone into the pc and out throughout the day.
Typed by Z using the Gingerbread keyboard.
Just change the filter to total since boot rather than unplugged. Sensor usage depends on how you use the phone as well not the same for everyone. If you're on the interwebs or youtube and rotating alot or using the phone the sensor for when to dim the screen, it will be much higher
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