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some small things worrying me before i purchase a nexus one.

ok so i am 99% sure i will buy the nexus one, i just have some concerns.
for one i have been hearing ever since the phone was released about the dust issue, also heard that htc knows about this and would fix what was needed. so the qeustion about this is if this is a valid reason for me to hold of on buying a nexus one?
the second thing is that i am not sure i want to root yet (probably willl^^) but the concern is that the stock kernel as i understand it only supports half of the ram in the nexus one leaving the other half useless. will google deploy a kernel update anytime soon and how much does it show when using the stock device that such a big part of the ram isn´t used?
thanks in advance

ignore the fud... hundreds of thousands of people are very happy with their stock N1..
if you get it, and are not happy with stock... you got options.
can't say that about the other contenders.

i got mine yesterday.
the screen itself seems fine. the screen cover isn't peeling up but i have a rather large spec of dust under it? no idea if it was there from when it was built or magically worked it's way under there...
good thing it has a 12 month hardware warranty i guess? i wonder if unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty for something so obviously unrelated.

crazy talk said:
i got mine yesterday.
the screen itself seems fine. the screen cover isn't peeling up but i have a rather large spec of dust under it? no idea if it was there from when it was built or magically worked it's way under there...
good thing it has a 12 month hardware warranty i guess? i wonder if unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty for something so obviously unrelated.
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just got off the phone with HTC support. if you root/unlock the boot loader the entire warranty is voided. even if it has dust under the screen.
hopefully someone figures out how to relock it soon..
but ANY dust under the screen will be enough of a reason for a hardware replacement within the 12 month warranty period if you haven't done anything to void the warranty.

I've had mine since launch with no dust issues. The RAM thing was originally brought up by Google developers who said they are working on implementing it.

Also had mine since launch with no dust issues or any other bugs! It still flies with the current ram (should get more ram update from google soon). Play with it a while before you want to root!

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Also had mine since launch with no dust issues or any other bugs! It still flies with the current ram (should get more ram update from google soon). Play with it a while before you want to root!
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does the N1 really only have 256MB of ram currently accessible? that would explain why i only tend to have ~110MB of ram free after shutting all applications down.
and seriously, 10 minutes in the hacking and development sections or the theme area and you want to root.

Red MacGregor said:
ignore the fud... hundreds of thousands of people are very happy with their stock N1..
if you get it, and are not happy with stock... you got options.
can't say that about the other contenders.
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+1
Been very happy. Never had a problems with dust or the stock rom. Plenty of customization options out there for the stock N1's too.
Go for it and it you have smooth sailing after a few months maybe you'll root it.

mardox said:
ok so i am 99% sure i will buy the nexus one, i just have some concerns.
for one i have been hearing ever since the phone was released about the dust issue, also heard that htc knows about this and would fix what was needed. so the qeustion about this is if this is a valid reason for me to hold of on buying a nexus one?
the second thing is that i am not sure i want to root yet (probably willl^^) but the concern is that the stock kernel as i understand it only supports half of the ram in the nexus one leaving the other half useless. will google deploy a kernel update anytime soon and how much does it show when using the stock device that such a big part of the ram isn´t used?
thanks in advance
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the dust issue is a very isolated and rare case... you will get a new phone no charges toward you if you have this issue...
as for the stock kernel, there is plenty of memory... i ran stock for the first month and a half before i rooted to the dark side... never had a big slow down issue and even then just get a task manager... i was getting like 100mb of ram on stock with almost everything closed

crazy talk said:
does the N1 really only have 256MB of ram currently accessible? that would explain why i only tend to have ~110MB of ram free after shutting all applications down.
and seriously, 10 minutes in the hacking and development sections or the theme area and you want to root.
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Yes on only 256MB active on the N1! There is a hack in development if you need more and can't wait for the ota.
True about the fun after root for most, but this was the op's 1st post.

Two things... what does "fud" mean? As for the 256mb, it hasn't been an issue yet. My phone's logged over 220 hours of uptime without any slowdowns and I haven't killed a single task in that time. Stock ROM..not rooted and locked bootloader. I'm confident that Google will update the kernel soon...hopefully along with a better tweak to the 3G connectivity.

Thanks for all your answers! Im definently buying i nexus one soon was thinking about getting desire instead but hate sense and the droid eris still has not been rooted so the same could happen with the desire.
Thanks again!

You guys better not be fibbing.
Im gonna be so mad if this thing sucks.
Does anyone use swype on it instead?
I use it on my G1, im just curious anyones opinion

docsparks said:
You guys better not be fibbing.
Im gonna be so mad if this thing sucks.
Does anyone use swype on it instead?
I use it on my G1, im just curious anyones opinion
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Constantly use swype. Haven't typed a text in landscape since I started using it a few weeks ago. I text pretty much all day too.

crazy talk said:
10 minutes in the hacking and development sections or the theme area and you want to root.
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Yeah.. xda-developers membership is like an addiction. Once to root(android)/HSPL(WinM) you can never go back... every next phone you buy, you want to flash it with custom ROMs.

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Two things... what does "fud" mean?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt

i think i would consider holding off on buying a new one, or atleast be prepared to send it back...
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Two things... what does "fud" mean? As for the 256mb, it hasn't been an issue yet. My phone's logged over 220 hours of uptime without any slowdowns and I haven't killed a single task in that time. Stock ROM..not rooted and locked bootloader. I'm confident that Google will update the kernel soon...hopefully along with a better tweak to the 3G connectivity.
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fud: Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt.
a commonly employed technique by fanbois...

BB got more evo's in, i'm going to replace mine!

I got called about more evo's today at BB, so i'm going to replace mine, wish me luck!
I'll post here with the hardware code and such to see if it's a brand new batch.

tell us if you find anything.
mad curious --- but the possibility of a new batch already is kinda low right? i mean would HTC put a new better batch into production this fast? if they do, damn our massive amounts of emails are helping.

chim4ira312 said:
tell us if you find anything.
mad curious --- but the possibility of a new batch already is kinda low right? i mean would HTC put a new better batch into production this fast? if they do, damn our massive amounts of emails are helping.
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Very likely no changes yet, they are just pushing out very little. Curious note, the store got one single evo in, not a whole shipment, just one.
Old:
HW:0002
problems:
screen pealing
light leak
grounding problem
bad wifi
bad battery life
New:
Hw:0002
no light leak
screen is stuck firm(for now)
Problems:
Grounding (still present)
Headphone jack is fine on both and i'm still testing the wifi and battery.
I had them put my name back on the list at the bottom so maybe I can get a different batch next time.
I showed the BB people the screen grounding issue and they were like holy crap, then tried their test unit and it did the same thing.

hm. just one? just yours?
could that hint that sprint stopped production for a bit and are trying to fix the issues and readying for a new batch??

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hm. just one? just yours?
could that hint that sprint stopped production for a bit and are trying to fix the issues and readying for a new batch??
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I'm hoping so, i mentioned to a friend earlier that the huge delay could be that htc is fixing things before putting out more phones. Dangerous thing to do given that cell phones get 'old' VERY quickly but if it's what they are doing then they are amazing.

That sucks both have the screen issue.

do u think that radio shack will be getting more preordered evos in today..idk if radio shacks affiliated with best buy or not

radioshack is not affiliated at all with bestbuy lol
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radioshack is not affiliated at all with bestbuy lol
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Ohh lol..i had a airhead moment..thanx..but do you think they would cuz it seems sprint,radioshack and bestbuy get them around the same time on fridays? ive been waiting for mne since last thursday

Radioshack told me to call back on Friday. If not they probably won't get any until next Friday.
Bestbuy has no idea and don't expect anything this week.
Either HTC Evo production is more backed up than Incredible or Sprint/HTC is shutting it down to fix issues.

jerryparid said:
Radioshack told me to call back on Friday. If not they probably won't get any until next Friday.
Bestbuy has no idea and don't expect anything this week.
Either HTC Evo production is more backed up than Incredible or Sprint/HTC is shutting it down to fix issues.
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The BB didn't even know they had this one coming in, called them to confirm that they had my name on the list and 30min later they called back saying they had one for me

mrono said:
Very likely no changes yet, they are just pushing out very little. Curious note, the store got one single evo in, not a whole shipment, just one.
Old:
HW:0002
problems:
screen pealing
light leak
grounding problem
bad wifi
bad battery life
New:
Hw:0002
no light leak
screen is stuck firm(for now)
Problems:
Grounding (still present)
Headphone jack is fine on both and i'm still testing the wifi and battery.
I had them put my name back on the list at the bottom so maybe I can get a different batch next time.
I showed the BB people the screen grounding issue and they were like holy crap, then tried their test unit and it did the same thing.
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chim4ira312 said:
hm. just one? just yours?
could that hint that sprint stopped production for a bit and are trying to fix the issues and readying for a new batch??
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I'm hoping so, i mentioned to a friend earlier that the huge delay could be that htc is fixing things before putting out more phones. Dangerous thing to do given that cell phones get 'old' VERY quickly but if it's what they are doing then they are amazing.
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The thing is that there's only like 15 days left, I've calling them since past Monday without luck.

I'm glad I have insurance. Going to wait about 3 months then file my claim

rutter9 said:
I'm glad I have insurance. Going to wait about 3 months then file my claim
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I am doing the same, although I certainly hope they dont patch the rooting by then and have that preloaded on new phones...that would be a tough choice then....defective screen with root or fixed screen without root

WTF ATT!!

So I got my phone today and low and behold I have some serious (at least to me) blemishes and scratches on the back. Some pics below. I know they may not seem too bad but come on, this is a brand new phone, and unexceptable if you ask me. So I actually go to my nearby ATT store to see if they have stock already so they can swap it out and they don't have any yet. You could see it in the eyes of the workers that they hadn't seen one yet. Borderline oogling over it.
Anyways, they say call ATT and they'll send me another. I call and low and behold they CAN send me a replacement (not overnight mind you, I'd have to pay for that), but as I had to remind them, there is a backorder for it so they couldn't tell me when I'd get it. All this time I wouldn't be able to activate the phone. I say screw it, I'll keep it but you gotta give me something here. All they can do open a customer credit report and see if it goes through. Suffice it to say.....I'm pissed.
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Yeah this is a total case of WTF. Must have happened in the flashing process when they added all their carrier crap.

Wow. Was it shipped in bag full of rocks?

Thats how mine is from GPlay! Not as bad as yours but the same type of marks.... Seems like it was slid around and there was a bunch of dust/debris in the box on the phone.. I called them up right after I saw and they were gonna set me up with a new replacement but there is a problem with there system with that apparently...:roll eyes: So I have to wait for them to fix that then get in contact with me to set up the replacement... Im using this one in a case in the mean time but it definitely shouldn't fly to get one that looks this way!

Looks like someone was skate boarding on it before shipping. Lol I would return it. There is no fu#king way I pay over $700 for a screwed up phone.

Probably happened while they were tattooing that sweetass globe on the bottom. Well worth the sacrifice, IMO.

h0bnail said:
Probably happened while they were tattooing that sweetass globe on the bottom. Well worth the sacrifice, IMO.
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Sorry about the phone man - Thankfully sprint didn't add any type of logo..
But this comment had me rolling for like 5 mins..

h0bnail said:
Probably happened while they were tattooing that sweetass globe on the bottom. Well worth the sacrifice, IMO.
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Hilarious
Seriously, that is unacceptable. I'd be pissed. Hope u get the replacement soon, you never feel like its quite yours until you get the replacement.
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h0bnail said:
Probably happened while they were tattooing that sweetass globe on the bottom. Well worth the sacrifice, IMO.
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Hahaha this comment had me rollin as well. Sorry about your phone OP. Hopefully they give you some type of credit or something.

That valiant phone fought tooth and nail and tried to resist being tramp stamped. In the end the handset torturers won

h0bnail said:
Probably happened while they were tattooing that sweetass globe on the bottom. Well worth the sacrifice, IMO.
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You sir win the internet for the day.
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How is that AT&T's fault? Lol.

"A Lenovo company..."
I would try blast them Motorola and ATT on social media. No way you fork over that much cash money for A defectove unit. I also suggest you QC the camera carefully. It may have got the lense.

Motorola QC issue.

I was at my tmobile store when they unboxed their demo unit and it had the same nonsense. We considered that maybe they just purposely sent the ****ty ones to stores for demo purposes. Hope this is not a widespread issue

That's what you get for purchasing a phone from the devil.

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How is that AT&T's fault? Lol.
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They would have touched it last when flashing their splash screenand doing the logo on the back. But a previous commenter said his gplay device was the same. I would look at how the phone fits in the retail packaging. Does it have room to move around at all, is what i would be looking at.
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Cy_n_ic said:
They would have touched it last when flashing their splash screenand doing the logo on the back. But a previous commenter said his gplay device was the same. I would look at how the phone fits in the retail packaging. Does it have room to move around at all, is what i would be looking at.
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I think it has some room to move because there doesn't seem to be anything keeping it in place or anything protective it has to sit on. Its just sitting on indent of the phone with the documentation. I think it happened during shipping possibly especially if it was man handled it could bounce around and scuff up but idk? i don't see how sliding on cardboard could cause marks like that.
Im also still waiting on Gplay to reply and fix there system to get me a new replacement...

Did you have any issues getting AT&T to initiate the return? This is ridiculous, mine has this too.

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They would have touched it last when flashing their splash screenand doing the logo on the back. But a previous commenter said his gplay device was the same. I would look at how the phone fits in the retail packaging. Does it have room to move around at all, is what i would be looking at.
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AT&T wouldn't have done it themselves, just semantically speaking.
They would have made a deal with the OEM (Motorola) to make the modifications on their behalf before packaging.
Not defending AT&T or anything, of course.

LG G4 Recall

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Haven't heard anything and like you, a search turned up nothing. Keep us updated if you hear anything else. Seems really strange. What could be so bad that would warrant pulling remaining stock?
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I haven't heard anything either. Keep us posted.

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Very interested if this would be happening with Verizon too.

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Then they haven't been working there long enough to remember the LG Rumor debacle, or the Palm Pre. When I was fixing rumors due to shredding flex cables and faulty charging ports, our manager authorized free replacements with brand new Rumor 2s, which broke... Just as much, really. Seriously, the original Rumor's port would snap off if a baby sneezed in the same zip code. I have nightmares about that phone and the 65 billion screws it had.
The Palm Pre had the Oreo effect, where the two halves would just start twisting freely, like you were taking apart an oreo. And of course, Palm wouldn't let us repair them, so we had to just swap them with refurbs. We had people that were on their 7th, 8th, 9th devices, but didn't want a different model because of Palm loyalty, and the fact that the Pre had a REALLY nice OS, as compared to early Android.
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I've talked to a few repair centers. This is most replaced device in the history of Sprint.
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I've already order the accessories, but not the device. Guess I have to wait a while, I really don't want to end up with the Nexus 5X.

hellot1M said:
I've talked to a few repair centers. This is most replaced device in the history of Sprint. The galaxy s2 is a close second. Most stores refuse to sell the device because of so many returns.
One of the main hardware issues is the screen splitting down the middle and then becoming unresponsive.
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The forum does not seem to be exploding with this issue, most we find is this thread on it here and see my post lower down that links to sprint users. All of two pages
Things are quiet because LG is replacing the screens under warranty. In my market they offer a 6 month after purchase screen replacement offer. Samsung does the same as well. This means if this problem does not occur within 6 months then it ain't going to happen.
Knowing that this issue may happen and if it does all it takes is a simple screen replacement that too under warranty means i would be less excited if this occurred. An inconvenience to head off to the service center but at least i know i will get it back very likely on the same day because this thing is easy to repair.
Not knowing this can happen otoh would be frightening.

Will be interesting what Sprint will say when I take mine in tomorrow......I will show them this for sure if I get any hassle......I just want my phone!! Grrrr!!

EU model H815
Any idea if the EU model is also affected? I'm waiting for my new G4 to be delivered. Was happy until I saw this thread...

joaste said:
Any idea if the EU model is also affected? I'm waiting for my new G4 to be delivered. Was happy until I saw this thread...
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All i found was the recall for sprint model.
I think its only the first batch of sprint models affected.
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Hmm, makes me wonder if it's just the Sprint CDMA model.
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DirgeExtinction said:
Hmm, makes me wonder if it's just the Sprint CDMA model.
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It's a recall that only effected the Sprint, not necessarily CDMA as Verizon is not impacted, but something Sprint added software wise that created a hardware issue. The major symptom is the screen half snow or static, but other issues such as overheating, freezes, bootloops, stuck on LG logo during boot, touch response issues and network connectivity issues. This effects all models manufactured prior to 10/5/15, in which LG modified the hardware to not have an issue with what ever Sprint does with their software. Knock on wood, the only issue I have had is the network connectivity (average 30% without signal) and constant dropping signal and jumping between 3G and LTE. Kinda a pain in the butt, but I do have to say its improved with ZV6, even though not completely gone. Mine was manufactured May 2015.
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Can someone comment on exactly what the "issue" is?

Is this sprint only
Is this sprint only

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Is this sprint only
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Read up a post or two.

Is this a horizontal split or vertical? My girlfriend's G4 has a horizontal split that we're not sure how it came to be.
https://goo.gl/photos/7KKUxQjU2UsiWfwL6

Tx Redneck said:
Is this a horizontal split or vertical? My girlfriend's G4 has a horizontal split that we're not sure how it came to be.
https://goo.gl/photos/7KKUxQjU2UsiWfwL6
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This is the issue as found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63041563
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Wow!

HTC bolt half screen black

Wanting to know if anyone else is experiencing this issue of half of the screen going black and then back to normal wanting to know if it's due to the last update ( didn't start happening until I took the new ota few days ago) anyway to go backwards without complete format not rooted yet or else wouldn't care but unsure of worth rooting or nor due to not enough information nor roms or kernels yet so anyway anyone let me know of there experienced the same issue after the last update thanks

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Wanting to know if anyone else is experiencing this issue of half of the screen going black and then back to normal wanting to know if it's due to the last update ( didn't start happening until I took the new ota few days ago) anyway to go backwards without complete format not rooted yet or else wouldn't care but unsure of worth rooting or nor due to not enough information nor roms or kernels yet so anyway anyone let me know of there experienced the same issue after the last update thanks
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only way to go back is being s-off....can u post a screenshot? u sure it's not the split screen feature?

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It's not the split screen feature it's str8 black on right side and it seems to only happen after the update google on it and you will c

The same issue
I have just the same problem . To be honest, I was "5 minutes away" to go the store as my HTC 10 Evo/Bolt is 5 days old only. But if that not "my unique case" then the update may be the reason.
Did you post any info directly to the HTC?
Please stay in touch as I'll do.

Black Screen
I started experiencing the same issue in December, in addition eventually the issue progresses to screen artifacting and flickering. I am on my second phone and about to send that one in for a replacement due to re-occurrence of the issue.
HTC has about a four week turn around time, so beware. If you have really bad issues ask to speak to the escalations supervisor.

Many people are experiencing this issue. Some have gone through 3-4 replacements already with each new one having the same issue. My BOLT only experiences this when I pull it out of my pocket and unlock. Can be fixed temporarily by giving the right hand side of screen a firm tap. Anybody have any ideas on a fix?

I'm on my 3rd phone due to that issue. You just have to exchange it. No way to fix it.

Mine just started jumping around only on the right side has not blacked out yet
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Mine just started jumping around only on the right side has not blacked out yet View attachment 4113882
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my Bolt is not currently active, so I haven't been using much, but I do recall the screen jumping around once when I pulled it out to check something...just checked it again and it's fine...weird

I wonder if anyone has a perfectly working (for months) and not overheating bolt. I've gone through 3. Should be recalled.

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I wonder if anyone has a perfectly working (for months) and not overheating bolt. I've gone through 3. Should be recalled.
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I have had my bolt since the Black Friday sale and I have had zero issues and I hope it never does.

rylip said:
I have had my bolt since the Black Friday sale and I have had zero issues and I hope it never does.
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Im curious if you have taken all the OTA updates? My Bolt was fine for about 3 months before i had severy lag issues but not the screen problem. I took it back yesterday and got a new one. My new one is on an old software version 1.15.651.11 and there have been 3 updates since this version. I have not updated yet.
Thanks,

Yes, def it was after the Android OTA updates. Curious if anyone experience the problem with updating.

Just got bolt #3 let's hope this one stays good
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Just got bolt #3 let's hope this one stays good
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Im on number 2 since Tuesday. I had bad lag issue. new phone fine so far, took too OTA updates from .11 to .15 and .22. its not alerting me to the latest 1.32.651.6 however yet?? So far no issues and phone is not running hot either.

I should also mention that I am out 3 screen savers. Think Sprint will give me a bill credit on those
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Im curious if you have taken all the OTA updates? My Bolt was fine for about 3 months before i had severy lag issues but not the screen problem. I took it back yesterday and got a new one. My new one is on an old software version 1.15.651.11 and there have been 3 updates since this version. I have not updated yet.
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I have taken all updates and so far have had no complaints the only time I've had it get warm was when I was charging and playing Pokemon go. No unusual lagging or screen problems so far I am also unlocked and s off I have flashed bb rom and am currently stock right now between the two I have had I good experience so far I hope htc gets the kinks out because this phone even though has an older processor is a good device.

I took .6 so far so good haven't noticed excessive heat
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rylip said:
I have taken all updates and so far have had no complaints the only time I've had it get warm was when I was charging and playing Pokemon go. No unusual lagging or screen problems so far I am also unlocked and s off I have flashed bb rom and am currently stock right now between the two I have had I good experience so far I hope htc gets the kinks out because this phone even though has an older processor is a good device.
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I too like the phone except for the kinks. I have taken OTA for .15 anc .22 without any issues. Then after about another day it is telling me to update to the new 1.32.651.6. everything is good but i guess i will take the update and hope for the best.

Recently I've been having trouble with the screen staying black with key pad lit on wake on gesture or power button. That may have been caused by my case... But more concerning is the screen flickering. It seems to come about more as the day goes on. When it starts to happen I tried rebooting, and it does it during boot too. I wonder about the longevity of this phone