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4 front buttons - build quality?

Hey all,
I've had my Legend just over 6 days now, must say the handset is very solid and built very well.
Only reservations are around the four front black buttons...
All Legends I saw in the shop had obviously been subject to lots of prodding from potential customers and all 4 buttons [ok ok there are 3 actual/physical buttons] lost their solid 'click' feel and had worked their way loose.
I'm posting because my HOME button seems to have worked its way a tiny tiny bit loose. Not enough to send it back or anything, but now, if I tap it with my finger, there is slight movement, it rocks side to side and can now hear a little clicky sound ...without actually pressing the button....this is after 6 days .
Anyone else experienced similar issues?

the same

pe3ksve3k2 said:
the same
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same
Should it be ignored or we should demand a replacement

Bump for this. I've noticed my HOME button has worked that little bit looser. Again.
Not fantastic for such a 'well built' device after just 3.5 months ownership.
Anyone else?

Same. I noticed it when I got it. Hasnt really got any worse and I don't think it will break but it has like a dead 'rock' to it
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Same with the back button
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Same, only ever use my menu button, rest are still 'solid', menu is 'squishy'.

Yupp. Menu feels solid only on one side of the button.

Same. It's just not as 'tight' as it should be.
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Yeah these buttons are the major flaw of the Legend.. if it had capacitive buttons it would be amazing

My back button is not as good as it used to be :-( have to really push it down sometimes hard for it to work

do you know if it is possible to buy replacment buttons anywhere ?

lukbeat said:
do you know if it is possible to buy replacment buttons anywhere ?
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I'm sure you can....
Trying to install them though may prove a little trickier.

Same here
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Got exactly Them same problem, pretty annoying.
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liltbrockie said:
I'm sure you can....
Trying to install them though may prove a little trickier.
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Can you give me a link to the shop selling them ? I was able to open the phone and I have access to them...

I guess it requires soldering...
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Corra said:
I guess it requires soldering...
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no thay are not, thay are attached by two screws. The problem is that it's imosible to find shop selling them.

HTC HD2
Also having this problem now. HTC HD2 about 2 months old.
The back button does not click anymore and feels soft when pressed.
This is my first HTC smartphone. Their quality is horrible a phone that cost U$500.00. Haven't they figured out how to make buttons??

Mine has been fine so far, although I've noticed that the buttons' clicking part isn't correctly centralized and in perfect angle with the plastic button itself.
So I've always pressed a specific corner of them (it changes from button to button).
Like the Home and Menu ones, the correct place seems to be the lower right corner, the Back one, in the lower left.
So pressing indiscriminately would definitely wear it quite easily.
Yes it sometimes gets annoying, but to avoid future headaches I recommend you try to feel it and adapt to the design flaw.
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Xperia Play Notification LED + Sanded Sides [little MOD](hardware)

I speak portuguese, but you dont need to understand everything.... the only thig that i says that is important is that the side with the triggers was just done and that after a day it would loses its white marks and became like the other
I have my play for a year now and it is in pretty bad state.... the construction quality is not the best...
and what more I care about is the power button because it is pretty much gone, I'm using apps to lock the screen and the home button to unlock...
found out that some one used a nail file to fix it, so I tried and it was better for the first 3 presses.... I noticed that the light was passing though the part I sanded down, so I did the same on the whole button.
I think It looks pretty cool and all the button lights up and catches more attention..
when its off, it is ice/transparent with the power icon in the middle...
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I'm the kind of guy that has no limits, if I something cool, I keep doing it till it finishes bad... but not this time!! I sanded down the side that has no triggers and it looks like a very dark wood with a lovely texture on it... have to fell it...
Tip. Try to do it all ways in the same direction, along the side so that you have these tiny lines right. Or use a very smooth(?) /for more delicate things sand paper and don't put any pressure on it...
Pics from the update here
https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B3UKRg_ISzYKcFJUTXBUN09WOG8/edit
Sorry because I have to accept... can't make it public somehow.... just ask permit ion and I'll give you as fast as I can...
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Wow that looks hardcore. I'm gonna try it cause I have the same issue too

That's so badass, I'm filing mine down right now even though my button works fine. It's looking awesome
I can't imagine why they covered up most of the LED to begin with...

I'm going to do that. I sanded down my other buttons so they're now black. Never thought to do the power button.
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How can filing down the surface of a button make any difference to its responsiveness? surely the problem lies beneath the button with the connector?
I agree with you on the build quality. My power button hasn't gone yet but its probably on its way out. It didn't work at all a couple of days ago until I kept pressing it and luckily went back to normal normal responsiveness after that, can't be a good sign though. That and the R trigger on my device has lost its springiness, it goes down with little to no effort now. Still raises back to the surface so I suppose I should count myself lucky.
Looks cool anyway and might make it so the LED light can actually be seen in normal circumstances.

So if I sand down my power button it will make it do that? GENIUS. I never thought of that. Time to go find a nail filer.

Sweet. Going to try this in a few

I just tried it out, and the power button felt a bit weird so I licked my finger and got it a little wet, but with the case on you don't even feel it. But my god, it looks 100x better. Thank you dude.

Totally awesome. Made my other buttons black b4. Didn't think about power either. Awesome now I can actually see my notification light
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Beautiful!
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LordBattleBeard said:
How can filing down the surface of a button make any difference to its responsiveness? surely the problem lies beneath the button with the connector?
I agree with you on the build quality. My power button hasn't gone yet but its probably on its way out. It didn't work at all a couple of days ago until I kept pressing it and luckily went back to normal normal responsiveness after that, can't be a good sign though. That and the R trigger on my device has lost its springiness, it goes down with little to no effort now. Still raises back to the surface so I suppose I should count myself lucky.
Looks cool anyway and might make it so the LED light can actually be seen in normal circumstances.
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The surface between the back of the button and the back cover...
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Glad you guys liked!
I'll sand the buttons because they re wearing off anyway... didn't think of that...
Have any one though about the sides of the device, make it all black? From like the first mouth the paint/metal effect has came out a little... I'll do that when I get home
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LordBattleBeard said:
How can filing down the surface of a button make any difference to its responsiveness? surely the problem lies beneath the button with the connector?
I agree with you on the build quality. My power button hasn't gone yet but its probably on its way out. It didn't work at all a couple of days ago until I kept pressing it and luckily went back to normal normal responsiveness after that, can't be a good sign though. That and the R trigger on my device has lost its springiness, it goes down with little to no effort now. Still raises back to the surface so I suppose I should count myself lucky.
Looks cool anyway and might make it so the LED light can actually be seen in normal circumstances.
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I think the R button loses its springiness because of the way the phone is held. At least when I hold it its usually being pressed.
To get back on topic, how is the surface of the power button when sanded?
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What do you mean sanded down? I dont understand English much. Will the sleep button work when i mod it?
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MilkyJoePD said:
I think the R button loses its springiness because of the way the phone is held. At least when I hold it its usually being pressed.
To get back on topic, how is the surface of the power button when sanded?
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Not to go off topic again but I had to replace the back cover underneath the battery. As the triggers started to get sticky and not move as they looked liked they were pressed all the way down. So bought a new backing and bang... works like like new. Now.... back to our regular scheduled topic on hand.
I did this last night... so much nicer to finally see the danger led as the whole button rather then what looks like a pin needle
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leetxperia said:
What do you mean sanded down? I dont understand English much. Will the sleep button work when i mod it?
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Use something like this
You can find this on nail cutter or swiss army multipurpose knife. Gently scrub it on your power button. You can use sand paper also which you can find it on any hardware store, but I don't prefer sand paper because the sand will come off and run into your device

360porcento said:
I have my play for a year now and it is in pretty bad state.... the construction quality is not the best...
and what more I care about is the power button because it is pretty much gone, I'm using apps to lock the screen and the home button to unlock...
found out that some one used a nail file to fix it, so I tried and it was better for the first 3 presses.... I noticed that the light was passing though the part I sanded down, so I did the same on the whole button.
I think It looks pretty cool and all the button lights up and catches more attention..
when its off, it is ice/transparent with the power icon in the middle...
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Is that a crack in your back plate by the power button? (White line in first pic)
Just wondering as I have a crack on mine in the exact same place
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Growling Clover said:
Is that a crack in your back plate by the power button? (White line in first pic)
Just wondering as I have a crack on mine in the exact same place
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I had the same crack as well
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Lol that does look cool!
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Growling Clover said:
Is that a crack in your back plate by the power button? (White line in first pic)
Just wondering as I have a crack on mine in the exact same place
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Lol... I haven't noticed it before 0.o yep, its a little crack.... I got I big one on the aperture where you put the your nail to take the back cover... do you have that one too?
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Power button too recessed

I might be in the minority as couldn't find much info on this...
Not only the power btn is placed on top thus less easy to get to while using one hand, but is simply too recessed on my device. I got it 3 days ago, it is almost perfect quality build wise, but it'll take me much more to get used to this feature.
I have to press really hard, and even then has to be perfectly centered, I find it easier keeping the phone in my right hand or else have to use both hands for this.
Trust me really bad choice having placed this button this way. Hope they will change it next iteration.
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Flash custom ROM, volume or HTC logo to wake, problem solved.
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That might be the way..
I hope the HTC logo hack will be made available for unlocked stock though.
In the meantime I am adjusting to it I guess, set up higher inactivity timeout, when done with it just let the timeout expire, etc.
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Why give a free pass for QC issues? Return it and get another.

PapaRhino said:
Flash custom ROM, volume or HTC logo to wake, problem solved.
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Which ROM hás the ability to use HTC logo?
That's awesome. But wouldn't that make the phone turn on every time you have it in your pocket?

My button is slightly recessed or only raised a bit above the phone, but I find it very easy to press and I can press anywhere on the button. If I were op, I would definitely exchange it or just simply return it, you only bought it a few days ago right?
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htc logo? how?

ksarius said:
Which ROM hás the ability to use HTC logo?
That's awesome. But wouldn't that make the phone turn on every time you have it in your pocket?
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mr.dj26 said:
htc logo? how?
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tbalden's kernel -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2244620

Replace it! I just received my new device and the difference is staggering. I can actually hear the clickity clack of the button now. Also other defects are gone (overhang)

Thanks for your replies.
I was trying to get a pic of this but giving up.. Really tricky.
I will go to some stores holding the demo, see how it compares. Until then, I got a better idea how to explain this: holding my phone while typing this, I swipe my fingernail fro right to left over the power btn, no resistance, flush with body. Doing the same thing, the other way round, I meet a very slight resistance, ie the left corner is slightly raised, maybe 1mm. Is this normal?
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millicent said:
Thanks for your replies.
I was trying to get a pic of this but giving up.. Really tricky.
I will go to some stores holding the demo, see how it compares. Until then, I got a better idea how to explain this: holding my phone while typing this, I swipe my fingernail fro right to left over the power btn, no resistance, flush with body. Doing the same thing, the other way round, I meet a very slight resistance, ie the left corner is slightly raised, maybe 1mm. Is this normal?
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Mine seems to be slightly raised on the left side also, but I don't have as much trouble as you are having. I cant press it very well from the right side though. Maybe the IR blaster is in the right and the actual button is on the left? Needs more info I guess.

explode1991 said:
Mine seems to be slightly raised on the left side also, but I don't have as much trouble as you are having. I cant press it very well from the right side though. Maybe the IR blaster is in the right and the actual button is on the left? Needs more info I guess.
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Mine is slightly raised but it has a clicky noise to it.. normal? I wish the button was more raised.
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Another reason to root. You can install a number of different kernels that allow you the ability to wake and put the device to sleep without using the power button.

Reviews have complained about the button being recessed its downright horrible thing from HTC to not think through such an important thing even when they seem to care so much about the little details of the phone. And no using some custom ROM/kernel is not the right solution at all.
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Exactly same here less than 1 mm extended and left is slite up and right side is sink in dip or exactly flush or levelled with surface this is my 3rd HTC one 1st 3rd got exactly same button only 2nd one has acceptable but not perfect
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Mine is exactly the same. Power button is flush to the device with no resistance if i wipe my finger across, and the left side of the button is less than a mm higher than the phone. I bought a case it its near impossible to power on the device without really digging in. I went in store for them to have a look at it but they practically laughed and smirked at one another and said they aren't going to fix it as the button still works. They wouldn't even get another handset out to compare the two buttons. Looks like i'll have to put up with it. Either that or go out my way to visit another store.

Is there anybodyr report better buttton after replacement?
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Seen 3 demo models in as many stores today. Two of them were unfortunately showing similar recessed buttons. Only one had a slightly, maybe 1mm, raised button, however it felt much better, much easier to press.
For this reason only I guess I am going to ask for a replacement next week.
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As an aside, all the dummies on display had 'normal' raised power buttons, maybe even 3 mm or more.
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onlinejobwork said:
Is there anybodyr report better buttton after replacement?
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Mine is perfect after my first replacement. I'm on Sprint btw and complained specifically about the button. The overhang was gone as well but the second device still has a bit of a gap. Nothing major.

Sunk in home button, normal?

Picked up my 32 GS4 yesterday and now I am noticing that the home button is sunk in. It's completely flush with the screen. Doesn't stick out at all. It works completely fine, but makes a really audible clicking noise. Obviously Samsung doesn't manufacture these all the same. I am worried if it will get worse in time. A google search brought many results with the GS3's home button. Apparently some think its normal, some don't. I am really fussy when it comes to QC on flagship phones.
Just wondering if anyone else has a sunk in home button?

its normal.

I don't have one yet, but I just wanted to say that I really wish they would have used a capacitive button instead. I work construction, and dust/sand etc. destroys the physical buttons. Also will miss the search button that I have on gs2 I like pressing and holding it for voice search
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Yup. Flush. You're good.
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It's not normal. My s4 didn't have that and one of them did. It should be slightly raised.
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jetlitheone said:
It's not normal. My s4 didn't have that and one of them did. It should be slightly raised.
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Yeah. I have noticed a couple Note 2's home buttons being flat, while others were slightly raised. I don't know if its considered not normal, as it functions just fine.
I do not like the loud audible click the button makes. I might try to swap it towards the end of my 14 days.
EDIT: Ok, looking at it really closely, its not completely flat. Maybe a tad lower than the other phones. I don't know, I would hate to return a phone because I'm too OCD.

Mine is slightly raised. Does it function properly? Have good tactile feedback? If so, I would say it's all good.
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americasteam said:
Mine is slightly raised. Does it function properly? Have good tactile feedback? If so, I would say it's all good.
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The home button functions perfectly fine. Since it doesn't stick out, the tactile feedback isn't that great. May take it to AT&T this week. Haven't decided. I am actually more concerned about my power button. Seems very hard to push and mushy, like its not sticking out as much as it should.

My home button is just BARELY above the rest of the phone, but it feels very responsive and a bit 'clicky'. While it's not raised so much, it at least feels really solid.
However my unlock button seems like it's really sunken in and almost hard to press at times, does anyone else have one like that as well?

americasteam said:
Mine is slightly raised. Does it function properly? Have good tactile feedback? If so, I would say it's all good.
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MentalToast said:
My home button is just BARELY above the rest of the phone, but it feels very responsive and a bit 'clicky'. While it's not raised so much, it at least feels really solid.
However my unlock button seems like it's really sunken in and almost hard to press at times, does anyone else have one like that as well?
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Same exact issue here with the power button. The home button I can live it, but the power button should be clicky and not feel so mushed.

MattMJB0188 said:
Same exact issue here with the power button. The home button I can live it, but the power button should be clicky and not feel so mushed.
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Thank god, at least I'm not the only one. This is my second s4, I just brought back my first one from HUGE battery issues. Would lose 15-20% while idle while I was asleep.
Already noticed a huge difference with my new one, except now I've noticed the mushed in unlock button. It's functional, it just feels like it has the possibility of eventually getting stuck somehow...Maybe I'm just being overly attentive and sensitive with the new one.

MentalToast said:
Thank god, at least I'm not the only one. This is my second s4, I just brought back my first one from HUGE battery issues. Would lose 15-20% while idle while I was asleep.
Already noticed a huge difference with my new one, except now I've noticed the mushed in unlock button. It's functional, it just feels like it has the possibility of eventually getting stuck somehow...Maybe I'm just being overly attentive and sensitive with the new one.
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Then exchange it. When they bring your new phone out thoroughly examine it first.

I'm very tempted, but at the same time , I don't wanna be THAT GUY who keeps bringing back phones because one very tiny detail is slightly off-putting of their OCD.

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I'm very tempted, but at the same time , I don't wanna be THAT GUY who keeps bringing back phones because one very tiny detail is slightly off-putting of their OCD.
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Yeah I know what you mean. And I've been that guy many times. Its just when signing a 2yr contract and paying $200+ dollars, one has to be persistent. They all hate me at my local AT&T store but I pay their paychecks.

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wttisme said:
I looked at 3 S4s before I picked one that I was satisfied with before I left the store. Some people don't care, but when paying this much for a phone I feel like it should be perfect.
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And AT&T kept bringing out S4's and let you have your pick? Must have been nice. My local AT&T store would never do that.

Neither would mine. Best Buy MIGHT, but it's not very nice to make them keep opening boxes of new products. Not sure if they can still sell them as such afterward.
The unlock button does seem more sunken than it should be. Might swing by the ATT store in a day or two just to check out their display...If it's that bad, i'll bring it back to best buy and see if they're willing to do another exchange . I only have 4 days left on my 15 day window unfortunately.

Did you put a screen protector

DAMN! I wish I didint see this thread because my OCD just kicked in...
Mine is raised about 1mm up. On my note II its about 2mm.
It feels normal to me...
With the Invisheild HD its flush with that....

artvandalay22222 said:
I don't have one yet, but I just wanted to say that I really wish they would have used a capacitive button instead. I work construction, and dust/sand etc. destroys the physical buttons. Also will miss the search button that I have on gs2 I like pressing and holding it for voice search
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I'm also coming from a gs2, and while the lack of a capacitive home button and search button is a bit weird, if you long press the menu button it pulls up search. I know it isn't exactly what you want, but it's close.
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[Q] Home button.

My home button cracks when I press it, I think it has some dirt inside but I don't know and I can't remember if it's like that since the first day or not. Is that happening to you?
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Anibaaal said:
My home button cracks when I press it, I think it has some dirt inside but I don't know and I can't remember if it's like that since the first day or not. Is that happening to you?
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No plm here it works smooth
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Quality on Samsung devices is terrible.
Dropped mine from 30cm and now the home button feels fidgety.

Please see this thread.