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go to everythinghd2.blogspot.com it has a guide to installing android on your hd2 leo
so do the stickies on these boards.
Another non searcher/reader to add to the masses, sigh........
This gets at me too, but lets not flame.
and let this thread die its death now
It's a nice straight and to the point guide. The guides here are a bit complex and cover a lot of issues that may not apply to everyone.
OP, I think you need to include the possibility of flashing a new phone ROM besides just the radio. Froyo had some glitches when using a stock tmous rom, I had to flash to chuckyrom for instance. You should mention this, because there is a 90% certainty users will need to use one of the available roms out there.
Other than that, a think his guide has merit. The guides on here are a bit daunting to look at, especially with all the bold capitalized letters with silly character symbols and different fonts trying to get your attention, it's almost more distracting than just using plain text. But thats another story.
I think there needs to be more simplistic guides like this that let users try a predefined series of steps first for quick and easy installation, then if that doesnt work you can go through all the work of learning what you're doing and getting in-depth in the forums.
I searched this site for guides and that when I was looking for a way to get android on my hd2, but i found i'd be jumping from site to site trying to figure out how to do steps as they all assume you have experience with the hd2, so i thought i'd try making a simple step by step guide with a little more detail
If you can't figure out how to put android on this phone using XDA, then you shouldn't be using android on your handset.
That said, if you are going to use information from xda developers I hope you give proper credit.
Just wanted to let OP know that I just used his guide today after a buddy of mine bought an HD2 (after seeing me run android on my own hehe). I had kinda forgotten exactly the steps and weblinks with proper builds to get er done, and while Im sure I would have figured it out again quickly, having it all in one tight little place with simple to read & to the point instructions helped a lot.
Thanks again op!
I was going to rant but I decided not to. Instead I would like to say that I hope proper credit is given where credit is due.
Xda is home to the android to hd2 port!!!!!
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I was going to rant but I decided not to. Instead I would like to say that I hope proper credit is given where credit is due.
Xda is home to the android to hd2 port!!!!!
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Hear Hear!!
Great But the Guy is Right!
Simple and step by step to the point!(thats how instructions to do something should be written, now I'm no expert but Half the time I cant even find the download links or they don't work. But basically Its a problem of...(fill in the blank), laziness perhaps lack of caring and or attention to details?? in my opinion. It may take a couple more sentences to get the exact point across but I personally think most every tutorial should be written as if for a complete noob. Because I want everyone who possibly can do actually be able to do it just makes sense from a marketing point of view I mean anyone can get into this sight so enough said. But I must admit XDA is always my first choice and usually answers my queries the best!
I know its kinda weird but I was just wondering does anyone else like "watching" the dev's work, I like going to the custom rom thread and reading the post for fun even tho I hardly know what they're talking about O_O
i often find myself doing the same ... mainly looking for a post saying Custom Roms now possible.
I do the exact same thing
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I do the same, I just wish all the people who did watch the tread, only watched and stop asking Devs silly questions.
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spent about an hour last night reading trhough most of it lol
I like to follow it as well. Did some basic linux scripting so I know some of the commands here and there but it's all beyond me. Still fun to read though
I read it all the time, I actually have a shortcut directly to the dev section on my X10 and watch it once in a while for updates... To be honest, this phone is keeping me quite entertained (As opposed to my iphone 4 which I got tired of within 2 days)
I read it regularly. I'll be honest and admit I don't understand everything they're talking about (I'd like try and help if I did), but it still makes for an interesting read and keeps my hopes of success up.
Although (or rather because) i used one of the most user-friendly linux distribution (Unbuntu) for some time, i don't have a clue about linux at all. in the beginning i didn't understand a thing, but just reading the thread regularly lets me understand a little bit about what they're talking. A VEERY little bit...
Developes thread is one of the best places to just read and see how they work. Specially when there is a dscussion about new findngs.
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Hey guys can someone translate the so far progress on the cynogen mod and stuff thanks?
Also your not the only one, I keep a eye on those threads but don;t fully understand what they mean
very first thing i do when i visit XDA is go right there to dev thread and read ... even though i dont understand a bit ..
Lol, its nice to know I'm not the only one. Its also nice to know that most of are waiting patiently for a custom rom while others moan.
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Hey guys can someone translate the so far progress on the cynogen mod and stuff thanks?
Also your not the only one, I keep a eye on those threads but don;t fully understand what they mean
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I think that the devs are trying to:
(In order of 'best' approach?)
-Create (or complete) an autobootable bootloader to allow us to run custom roms.
-Run another firmware on top of the current one (but a certain file, (build.prop?) has to remain in place (one of SE's checks, i think). At the moment, the devs seem to be fixing problems one by one, and at the moment the phone doesn't reboot anymore, but there are still some other problems.
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I like to follow it as well. Did some basic linux scripting so I know some of the commands here and there but it's all beyond me. Still fun to read though
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i dont know much Linux but still like to read the progress they make
can't help it...!!
Hello, I was wondering what the benefits of rooting the My Touch 4g would be? Would this allow me to remove the bloatware that came pre-installed on the phone? Also I've heard talk of a possible better rom to put on the phone. Would someone be able to explain why this would be better and what rom might be better?
Thanks
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Hello, I was wondering what the benefits of rooting the My Touch 4g would be? Would this allow me to remove the bloatware that came pre-installed on the phone? Also I've heard talk of a possible better rom to put on the phone. Would someone be able to explain why this would be better and what rom might be better?
Thanks
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Disclaimer/Advice/Humble Opinion:
My advice (without trying to hurt anyone's feelings too much) is DON'T ROOT. I would suggest you familiarize yourself with everything (Linux, ADB, XDA, Google) before diving in head first.
Despite popular belief, having root does NOT in fact make you cooler.
Way too many new users are trying to root because they think it's cool or heard it's cool. You need to learn your device first.
If you don't know how to perform a Nandroid backup, or restore a previous ROM backup, flash updates, install custom ROM's etc, then you should NOT root. You should browse the forums here, read everything until you know it well. Google search related topics. Exhaust all available avenues, then ask questions. After you've executed all of these options you might consider rooting and starting to tinker with your device.
I second what CBC has said. They lock these phones down for business and support reasons, mainly that having root lets you pretty easily screw things up. You shouldn't root unless you have a good idea of what's actually going on, how to back out of it, etc. Just page through some of the root/unroot threads and look at all the stupid questions people post. If they don't look stupid to you, please read read read before thinking any more about rooting.
Don't take any personal offense to this, it just that there's a real chance you can brick your device. The software root itself is fairly safe but at least the original method to disabling the write protection--flashing the engineering hboot--modifies your last line of defense in fixing a broken device.
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Hello, I was wondering what the benefits of rooting the My Touch 4g would be? Would this allow me to remove the bloatware that came pre-installed on the phone? Also I've heard talk of a possible better rom to put on the phone. Would someone be able to explain why this would be better and what rom might be better?
Thanks
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Benefits to you zero. If you can't do a simple search of google to find out the benefits or if rooting is even for then I can say it will have no benefits to you
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Benefits to you zero. If you can't do a simple search of google to find out the benefits or if rooting is even for then I can say it will have no benefits to you
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Wow, so much for friendly forum help huh...
Sorry not trying to be rude or unhelpful I'm just blunt I could've sugar coated it but what would be the point. You obviously found us using one of the many search engines out there just change your query and you won't get flamed.
As a side note anyone else in the future please do some research before asking this.
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Sometimes the benefits are little things that are not found in change logs. Things that are only discovered through usage by people who have already rooted their devices.
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Sometimes the benefits are little things that are not found in change logs. Things that are only discovered through usage by people who have already rooted their devices.
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Amen! I could read all day long till I am blue in the face and I have. I did not think asking people who are familiar with the process would be such a bad thing..
Good job with the flaming though. I'll just chalk it up as internet small man syndrome...
@spazfishy
I first started tweaking my phones with a couple WM HTC devices. I did it mostly to increase performance and become a member of a community of geeks (for lack of a better term). BTW, when I say tweak I don't mean building ROMs or writing code. I'm an idiot in that regard.
I'm a year and a month into having Android phones and I still don't know anything about SDK, very, very little about ADB push/pull, etc. Still, I've managed to have fun with my phones and have rooted and toyed with them without any issue worse than a boot loop here and there. It's fun to be the first guy to get an update for a ROM because you're eagerly hitting refresh on the supporting thread. There's also a satisfaction in reading a ****load of info on these forums and figuring out something by yourself or with a little input from the guys here.
I can agree that you should read as much as you can about how these phones work. However, you don't need to know as much as you might think. What helped me was watching some youtube videos...walkthroughs of rooting and tutorials for installing ROMs.
It's **** like this, XDA.
Instead of telling this guy "sorry, rooting is too difficult for your little brain to comprehend, you're just going to end up bricking you're phone" why don't you try to help him with his problem?
I've been following XDA for a while now, and it bothers me that many of you would rather treat this as some type of subculture when we're only talking about ****ing cell phones. Instead, why not try to grow this little community, and show carriers that consumers not only desire open source, they demand it in products they spend their hard earned money buy.
Things will only get there if we can rely on developers and enthusiasts to help spread their knowledge. Modaco and Cyanogen already do a really good job of it, and so does AOSP.
I say to spazfishy, yes. Root you're phone, but not right now. Wait a bit. As more stable ROMs became available, this is actually a good way of getting your phone to behave the way you want it to. And if you've been on this website before, you know the risks involved so do you're homework, and happy hunting.
Hopefully you'll find someone with talent willing to help you.
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I say to Daryllh, yes. Root you're phone, but not right now. .
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your post was good but it was spazfishy who was asking the question. it's all good.
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Instead of telling this guy "sorry, rooting is too difficult for your little brain to comprehend, you're just going to end up bricking you're phone" why don't you try to help him with his problem?
I've been following XDA for a while now, and it bothers me that many of you would rather treat this as some type of subculture when we're only talking about ****ing cell phones. Instead, why not try to grow this little community, and show carriers that consumers not only desire open source, they demand it in products they spend their hard earned money buy.
Things will only get there if we can rely on developers and enthusiasts to help spread their knowledge. Modaco and Cyanogen already do a really good job of it, and so does AOSP.
I say to Daryllh, yes. Root you're phone, but not right now. Wait a bit. As more stable ROMs became available, this is actually a good way of getting your phone to behave the way you want it to. And if you've been on this website before, you know the risks involved so do you're homework, and happy hunting.
Hopefully you'll find someone with talent willing to help you.
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I SECOND this sentiment. yes, I agree with the overall concept that people should do a search on the forums first and that we don't "need " several separate threads with the same info... however how much better is it really to have a bunch of threads floating around (taking up just as much space as the redundant threads that everyone treats as a plague) chastising and mocking people who just want a little help with their friggin phone??
I've recently been spending a lot of time on these forums after picking up my mt4g and as useful as these forums are - every third thread is someone belittling a poster for asking a simple question. it's pathetic and not beneficial to our community.
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I SECOND this sentiment. yes, I agree with the overall concept that people should do a search on the forums first and that we don't "need " several separate threads with the same info... however how much better is it really to have a bunch of threads floating around (taking up just as much space as the redundant threads that everyone treats as a plague) chastising and mocking people who just want a little help with their friggin phone??
I've recently been spending a lot of time on these forums after picking up my mt4g and as useful as these forums are - every third thread is someone belittling a poster for asking a simple question. it's pathetic and not beneficial to our community.
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Great. Then why don't you and Sl3PR be the first to start helping. Your turn.
People should off just told him the benefits of rooting so he can learn when he bricks his phone on what rooting is about.
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People should off just told him the benefits of rooting so he can learn when he bricks his phone on what rooting is about.
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You're right. I agree. Let them brick. Then be right back here begging for help.
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Its not that we are flaming anyone its just that we see the same questions over and over. If the question was I've rooted my device now what can do any pointers you would've gotten much more answers. I remember before I rooted my first device I had the same question so I googled that and it came up with pros and cons simple as that.
As far as the small man syndrome over the internet I drive a huge diesel truck with smoke stacks chew and work out endlessly but I'm 4'11" so I don't just do it over the internet. ;-)
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People should off just told him the benefits of rooting so he can learn when he bricks his phone on what rooting is about.
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Ya so he could send it back thus driving up the price of new phones and causing phone manufacturers to lose money and causing more headaches for them as well as others.
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Its not that we are flaming anyone its just that we see the same questions over and over. If the question was I've rooted my device now what can do any pointers you would've gotten much more answers. I remember before I rooted my first device I had the same question so I googled that and it came up with pros and cons simple as that.
As far as the small man syndrome over the internet I drive a huge diesel truck with smoke stacks chew and work out endlessly but I'm 4'11" so I don't just do it over the internet. ;-)
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yes, heaven forbid he not do EXACTLY what you did!
in a Q&A forum no less..give me a break. and no, I'm not gonna keep going on and on about this in this thread. i'm done.
it just proves the original point i was trying to make - which is now we just have another thread on this boards of people being a**holes and talking down to other people just because they don't possess the exact same information you do or because they aren't going about your perfect prescribed process for obtaining said information..whatever.
if someone asks a question you don't like - why don't you just go re-root your phone? or put your wife's cat in the microwave?
if you have the answer - why not take the 90 seconds it was going to take you to be a giant tool and just answer the question?
OR if redundant posts is really THAT big of a problem on here - then have moderators just delete these posts? or figure out how to become a moderator and then you can play forum cop in all of your spare time and delete these posts and actually be part of a solution not just a part of another problem.
see all you happy campers in another post
have a nice day.
(and btw - CBC - at least your initial reply had some actual information in it and geniune advice. jjackson was just being a jerk. that's what i thought was totally unnecessary. and as far it being 'my turn' - since i've been regularly reading this forum, i do answer questions when i feel like i have something to contribute..this is my first android phone and i have only temp rooted so that's why i didn't answer his post to begin with)
Ok well I'm sorry if I otherwise offended anyone with my rants.
So lmgtfy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
But do not follow those instructions they are not for our device. I REPEAT DO NOT FOLLOW THOSE DIRECTIONS. Just use that as a helpful guide for information.
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Hey, a big thanks to the people that were actually helpful. For real this reply will be short and simple but seriously to the haters. Why do you even waste your time replying if you do not like my question? Are you simply here to feel powerful and mock people? Like why would you go out of your way to call me and idiot and assume I am going to break my phone? I really don't see what's in it for you besides a self attained ego boost. Hence the small man comment...
So to the helpful people: thedroid, daryllh, Sl3PR, ckisgen and anyone else with a helpful word or two your comments are much appreciated and with your wisdom I am slightly more educated and will make a decision. And to the others well I didn't know my text took up so much space!! Good luck in scaring more new users away! I hope you guys get a lot of people to click your donation buttons!
Hey guys, looking through the various threads in general, and development I see so many people with questions from the basics up to the most complex stuff. I was thinking of doing a series of videos that go step by step through the basics and beyond to the most complex stuff. Would anybody be interested in a series of videos like that? I just ask cause I don't wanna spend all that time doing them to get nobody watching them. And if you guys have specific questions you'd like to see on there feel free to give your ideas/comments.
Thanks for your opinions and ideas
i think its great! I would like step by step to updating unoffical updates ie 3.1/3.2
WiFi root would be good. The Xoom is my wife's. Life would be so difficult if I bricked it.
MZ604 walkthrough would be perfect. im a noob when comes to rooting and i dont want brick mine xoom because im not sure about guides. show everything step by step, and give direct links to apps on rapidshare etc. will be soooooo grateful.
Informational videos are always apprieciated! Most people willing to learn will definately watch them. Let us know!
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Informational videos are always apprieciated! Most people willing to learn will definately watch them. Let us know!
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I'm sure they will help people who otherwise couldn't get the full potential from their devices
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great thanks for the reply guys I'll get to work on a few basic videos for now.... rooting, ect ect. Gimme a day and I'll post a few
cool will look forward 2them
I would love to see a walkthrough of going from fully stock 3.2 (WiFi Only Xoom) to rooted and running a Tiamat 3.2 kernel or ROM.
Hell if someone could explain the difference between a kernel and ROM that would be a great start.
I know there are many "how to's" and "idiot's guides", but for me actually seeing someone do something is so much easier to understand. There are always little steps or tricks that get left out of written instructions that a video would be great. There are just as many "help my Xoom is stuck in a boot loop" or "help my Xoom is bricked" type posts that obviously this type of walkthrough would be helpfull. I know I would appreciate it. I have read many of the step by step guides and am still apprehensive of making that jump.
Is there a FAQ somewhere that comprehensively covers most of what's involved as a part of rooting the Nexus 7? Or rooting any Android device that would cover the N7? I do dev, but am new to Android.
I'm not even referring to the actual rooting process. Info for that's all over the net. My questions are more along the lines of things like:
What exactly does it mean when people say that rooting will erase the drive? Somehow, I think that's probably exaggerated. Does it really all but reformat? Does it leave the OS intact, other than unlocking and rooting and just wipe out the apps I've installed and my settings and data? Or whatever happens.
Do I have to literally reinstall all my apps from Play or wherever? Or can I copy to a computer and just copy it back again after rooting?
If the rooting process deletes all my apps, this has no effect on what Play lists as "My Android Apps," does it?
Given these questions, what's the state of the device right after I finish rooting? Is it display sort of what it was out of the box?
If I need warranty service and unroot, would Google know at a glance that it had ever been rooted? What restores it to its original state? Doesn't unrooting just remove root access and lock the device?
I'm not here to ask about this ROM or that, but why use another ROM? Would that completely replace Jelly Bean? If it does, how to I get back to Jelly Bean?
Does the Nexus Root Toolkit work on Windows XP? (I have that and a Mac. I’m running the Win 8 preview in a Virtual Box VM, but getting it to consistently recognize the N7 has been problematic. On the Mac, the Android file manager tends to drift in and out. It's possible that I have issues with my N7 USB port.)
I realize there are all noob questions, but that's where I am. I'm sure I could come up with plenty more and I'm sure plenty of others have and have had similar questions. But most of the answers I'm finding don't address nuances, they're just black and white, sweeping terms that don't really get where I'm looking to go.
I'd appreciate answers to these questions or pointers to good places to find out without having to wade through dozens of topics hoping to find some piece of what I want to know.
I might be able to answer some of your questions, give me a pm and I would love to answer them (it would be hard to put them all in a post)
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I posted this a while back. It should be a pretty good hub of information.
Hope that helps! If you have any other questions that this doesn't answer - either ask here or check google. Just make sure you read everything you possibly can - the more knowledge the better.
Lots of stuff there. Thanks. I'll take a good look.
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I posted this a while back. It should be a pretty good hub of information.
Hope that helps! If you have any other questions that this doesn't answer - either ask here or check google. Just make sure you read everything you possibly can - the more knowledge the better.
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I might be able to answer some of your questions, give me a pm and I would love to answer them (it would be hard to put them all in a post)
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PM sent, though my outbox doesn't show it. Anything you can share, Stevenator21, would be greatly appreciated.