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[Android] Paid apps

Most of you know that if you use the Market Enabler you will be able to see (and presumably purchase) paid apps in the Market. Since I change my Android build sometime several times a day, is there a way to "keep" paid apps and move them from build to build, or even phone to phone? (I have a TouchPro, RAPH800 and am trying to help with debugging Android there, too.) Also, being able to back up phone logs and sms might be nice in order to move from build to build or phone to phone, if anyone knows of apps that do this. I find I really like Google keeping my contacts synced. Thanks.

You can write a script which will copy your data folder to a folder on sdcard. You will need to run this script from adb or terminal in the build.
I may write a bat file sometime this afternoon if someone does not come up with better idea.

sshark said:
You can write a script which will copy your data folder to a folder on sdcard. You will need to run this script from adb or terminal in the build.
I may write a bat file sometime this afternoon if someone does not come up with better idea.
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Two things. First, I'm not sure I want to reuse the whole data file, as sometimes I'm moving from, say Hero to Eclair. (I'm about to get my laptop out and to format an SD card to ext2 and load Shidell's new Eclair build.) Also, not sure I could reuse the whole data.img, moving from Vogue to RAPH800, either. I really only want apps, sms and maybe phone logs.
Second, could we have a decent terminal app in all the builds, please! Sometimes the add-on apps won't install, or I've had trouble installing a good terminal app from the Market. I once used an SU app and had to write one line at a time. I couldn't see what I was doing. It got the job done, but it was crude.
Thanks.

smarcin said:
Most of you know that if you use the Market Enabler you will be able to see (and presumably purchase) paid apps in the Market. Since I change my Android build sometime several times a day, is there a way to "keep" paid apps and move them from build to build, or even phone to phone? (I have a TouchPro, RAPH800 and am trying to help with debugging Android there, too.) Also, being able to back up phone logs and sms might be nice in order to move from build to build or phone to phone, if anyone knows of apps that do this. I find I really like Google keeping my contacts synced. Thanks.
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I use MyBackup from the market. It's only a 30-day trial...but that renews every time you switch builds. For example, when I switch to a new build, I just go into market, download MyBackup, install it and restore my apps. You can backup apps, contacts, sms, phone log, maybe more I can't recall.

drewden123 said:
I use MyBackup from the market. It's only a 30-day trial...but that renews every time you switch builds. For example, when I switch to a new build, I just go into market, download MyBackup, install it and restore my apps. You can backup apps, contacts, sms, phone log, maybe more I can't recall.
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Are you backing up to your SD card or using their online option?

smarcin said:
Are you backing up to your SD card or using their online option?
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SD. Just backup to sd and when u reinstall mybackup on a new build it will find your backup on your sd.

[Q] Auto-install APKs at First Boot?

Did some searching on this but it came up blank, so maybe someone has a brilliant idea for this
Almost every other day we are getting new builds for Android. I'm sure many of you are like me and have a set of APKs you install with every build. For example SWYPE.
I would like to know if there is a way, when installing a new build, you can have certain apps auto-installed. This would really save me time.

Can't you just put them in the "AndroidApps" folder that usually comes with every build..?

shadiku said:
Can't you just put them in the "AndroidApps" folder that usually comes with every build..?
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Wasn't sure if that was the proper way it was done. I tried that once, needless to say it didn't work out to well. Had to eat a hard reset.
Anyways, can anyone confirm that this is the best way to do it, or if you know of another that would be great. Please share!

Yup!
yes, i'm 99.9% sure that this is a way to auto-install apps onto your phone, as i've read this in other threads which say the same thing

I did this myself with darkstone's builds. I just loaded up the android apps folder. On second boot I had issues so I then deleted all those apps through winmo and everything was fine again. Not sure with this folder that everytime you boot it tries to reinstall or not. Would like some clarification on that.

Not worked for me

I would suggest downloading 7zip file manager, then when you download your desired rom then just open it up. Navigate to the data/apps folder and drop your apps in there, when you flash the rom then your personal apps will be flashed and installed as if they came with the rom already.
That's what I do and I have never had an issue.

Or there always is ADB

HypoTurtle said:
Or there always is ADB
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there are some adb apk tools that could probably do a batch install

Am i right that after putting those in your folder, after hard reset all those apps that were there will reinstall(those that you wanted, and those you uninstalled)? Or there will be trouble uninstalling as it is part of ROM?
Personally i used one of those App Backup & Restore apps from market. I had to spend 10 minutes pressing "Accept" cause they install by regular way, but it was quite fast anyway.

Marquo said:
Am i right that after putting those in your folder, after hard reset all those apps that were there will reinstall(those that you wanted, and those you uninstalled)? Or there will be trouble uninstalling as it is part of ROM?
Personally i used one of those App Backup & Restore apps from market. I had to spend 10 minutes pressing "Accept" cause they install by regular way, but it was quite fast anyway.
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Now which folder are you referring to? When I mentioned placing apps, I was talking about putting them into the data/app folder of the rom zip you are flashing so they will be installed on first boot.
As for backing up and restoring apps, I suggest using MyBackup as it does apps plus their associated data as a batch backup/restore. It doesn't require you to accept each one.
Please mybackup will do sms/mms, call logs, browser shortcuts, and so on. Here is the market link for it: MyBackup

chrisrj28 said:
Now which folder are you referring to? When I mentioned placing apps, I was talking about putting them into the data/app folder of the rom zip you are flashing so they will be installed on first boot.
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I got you right, and i thought that as they are part of ROM, they will be saved and restored when hard reseting(even if you uninstalled them on purpose).
Thiss app sounds really nice, i shall try it out.
EDIT
Look what i found when i came to forum by main site of xda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23291051
Seems nice.

Perfectly Clone one Vibrant to another vibrant

I have a Vibrant with fusion 1.1 that is going back to T-mobile. Is there a way to just clone everything on this phone to the new phone.
Can I just copy Titanium backup form the old phone and put it on the sd card of the new one. Is there a better method?

You need to flash back to stock using odin, just go to the development section and click om the.sticky, under odin roms. Click the.stock one and flash,
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iwillkillyou said:
You need to flash back to stock using odin, just go to the development section and click om the.sticky, under odin roms. Click the.stock one and flash,
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That wasn't his question... Like at all...
I'd do a nandroid and back up the apps and data in titanium and save them to the SD and then put that SD in the new phone that comes.

Oh haha sorry I didnt read the whole thread, yea peform a nandroid
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kuhan said:
That wasn't his question... Like at all...
I'd do a nandroid and back up the apps and data in titanium and save them to the SD and then put that SD in the new phone that comes.
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What would happen if I copied all the contents of the internal memory (all files ,all folders) then copied those over the contents of the new phones internal memory?. Nandroid and TB are not normally saved to the external SD card.
Or should I just load the new rom on the new phone and just copy the TB folder to the new phone and restore from that?

Nandroid and titanium are a good start but neither of those will do things like modem files.
So I would add on the new phone do a base install of fusion 1.1 with the appropriate kernel, i think you said was your rom, then a nandroid restore and that should get you there

ransome7 said:
I have a Vibrant with fusion 1.1 that is going back to T-mobile. Is there a way to just clone everything on this phone to the new phone.
Can I just copy Titanium backup form the old phone and put it on the sd card of the new one. Is there a better method?
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I'll chime in with my opinion. Granted my opinion comes from my experiences constantly experimenting with different roms. I've flashed the phone this month almost as often as I've received actual phone calls for crying out loud!
The amount of time expended on looking for such a perfect method seems to be greater than the amount of time spent merely reconstructing an equivalent environment.
Keeping all of my contacts on google and using appbrain to have the ability to keep a known inventory of apps...I can reconstruct my daily driver environment from one rom to another in about 30 minutes max without the need to explicitly backup anything.
Though this may not work for everyone, it surely would work for most. Just a thought...

Using AppBrain would mean you would have to constantly re-download your apps. Also, this does not save the settings and what about apps that are not on the market?
I use Titanium Backup if I want to transfer all my apps and settings. Nandroid would be very appropriate to transfer over all the of phone's data, granted you also manually include the correct modem and kernel.
Doing a Titanium Restore surely takes less time then redownloading and installing from the market, especially if you have the Pro version as it is MUCH MUCH quicker.

kangxi said:
Using AppBrain would mean you would have to constantly re-download your apps. Also, this does not save the settings and what about apps that are not on the market?
I use Titanium Backup if I want to transfer all my apps and settings. Nandroid would be very appropriate to transfer over all the of phone's data, granted you also manually include the correct modem and kernel.
Doing a Titanium Restore surely takes less time then redownloading and installing from the market, especially if you have the Pro version as it is MUCH MUCH quicker.
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Titanium can save some time, but honestly not enough to write home about, at least for me. It's a matter of a few minutes different in my experience.
The reason why I do not use Titanium, despite the fact that it can save some time is that it can lead to complications especially when bouncing between 2.1 and 2.2 derivative roms, depending on what you back up of course. I'll use it when I'm staying within the domain of 2.1...or staying within the domain of 2.2. Crossing those domains however I never use Titanium. I've had more problems than not, and admittedly that may be due to my ignorance of what things are truly safe to restore across different versions of Android.
Then again I'm probably unusual compared to the OP, in that I experiment with EVERYTHING, up to and including a little bit of my own firmware cooking after the fact. Every firmware and experimental firmware and filesystem hack has at some point been on this phone, but that's how I roll.
Doing without deliberate backups hasn't drastically changed my restore times. Setting up the few apps that require setup takes a matter of seconds when I decide to use that app.

It's nice to get a fresh install - just TB and and reinstall after!
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Oh haha sorry I didnt read the whole thread, yea peform a nandroid
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You didn't even read the title of the thread before clicking it, bro....
-bZj

if you want exact - nandroid
otherwise use TitaniumBackup Pro

This is what I would do. I would perform a nandroid. After doing so I would then copy everything in the internal sd to your computer. When the new phone comes. Copy everything into the new phone's internal sd. Root your phone, install clockwork mod. Flash a new rom if you want if not no biggy. Load up into clockwork mod, do an advanced restore, restore data only. Reboot. Reboot again. Load back into clockwork mod, clear cache and dalvik. Reboot twice. Run fix permissions. Reboot. Everything should work with no errors and it will look identical to your last vibrant. You could condense this but I wrote it so that you could install buncha diff roms without having to do titanium restore because that just takes a ****ing long time if you have a **** load of apps installed.

Mouahmong said:
This is what I would do. I would perform a nandroid. After doing so I would then copy everything in the internal sd to your computer. When the new phone comes. Copy everything into the new phone's internal sd. Root your phone, install clockwork mod. Flash a new rom if you want if not no biggy. Load up into clockwork mod, do an advanced restore, restore data only. Reboot. Reboot again. Load back into clockwork mod, clear cache and dalvik. Reboot twice. Run fix permissions. Reboot. Everything should work with no errors and it will look identical to your last vibrant. You could condense this but I wrote it so that you could install buncha diff roms without having to do titanium restore because that just takes a ****ing long time if you have a **** load of apps installed.
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Thanks for the lengthy explanation , that makes the most sense.
I will try this method . Thanks for taking the time.

Hey rancome7 - did you try this method? How did it work for you.. I may just do this right now as im in the same situation of wanting to clone my Vibrant to a new Vibrant

Question - wont restoring data from a nandroid after installing a new ROM cause the rom to act funny since the old data may not agree with it or overwrite something?

Apps won't install!

I had to wipe my data due to my phone being in a boot loop. Then I went to reinstall my apps and they all did except both angrybirds. I had backed them up with titanium backup, but it wont install from there or the market.This happened before and I googled it and what I found told me delete a file which I did. This worked however I forget what file it was and I cant find the page again. I think it was in system but im not for sure. Any help would be appriciated.

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I had to wipe my data due to my phone being in a boot loop. Then I went to reinstall my apps and they all did except both angrybirds. I had backed them up with titanium backup, but it wont install from there or the market.This happened before and I googled it and what I found told me delete a file which I did. This worked however I forget what file it was and I cant find the page again. I think it was in system but im not for sure. Any help would be appriciated.
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If it transfered the apk to your phone locate it and delete it then re-attempt

Is it in /data/app/ ? Probably something angrybirds. Not sure which app though. You might have a corrupted app in there for angrybirds.

This happened to me too. I had seasons but not the original. I've updated roms alot and this was the first time. Coming from dl09 to eb01. I just reinstalled from market. Seems to be the only program that didn't install so far. My guess is that there's a version that works on eclair and another for froyo. I base this on the fact that a bunch of programs suddenly had updates available after the update but didn't before.
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I figured out what it was. I couldn't find the file, but I knew it had something to do with angry birds installing straight sd cards. I just took out my sd card and installed it from the market. Everything worked out then.

[Q] back up utility

hi im not all that new but im new enough and i have a little experience with Roms on my hd2 and theres one i just really enjoy but i want to try other Roms out without losing all my data i have tried my backup but it takes 16 to 20 min for me to back up is there anything that can do it faster?

theted said:
hi im not all that new but im new enough and i have a little experience with Roms on my hd2 and theres one i just really enjoy but i want to try other Roms out without losing all my data i have tried my backup but it takes 16 to 20 min for me to back up is there anything that can do it faster?
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maybe Titanium Backup?

p107r0 said:
maybe Titanium Backup?
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tried it still too slow but thanks

theted said:
tried it still too slow but thanks
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How many app do you have on your phone?

10507 said:
How many app do you have on your phone?
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i have like 36 apps

theted said:
i have like 36 apps
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Wow, with that few app, I don't think it should take that long to backup with Titanium Backup or My Backup. I have around 250+app and both Titanium/My Backup back up my app in less 5 minutes. I think there's something wrong with your SDcard.

idk i just got this one after my last card died on me

I'd suggest checking the card for errors on PC plus defragmentation (mydefrag has flash drive mode),
then you could try increasing card cache size in Android:
- SD Tools to measure RW speed before & after
- SD Speed Increase to set cache size to 2048 or whatever works best for you
-> more details in this thread

Id like to know to for a backup for playlist, apps, photos, I searched for it all I came up with is titanium backup, & mybackup root; but don't work , I used titannium backup for apps it worked, but couldn't restore playlist, data, and photos
Would like to see an application for this
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Id like to know to for a backup for playlist, apps, photos, I searched for it all I came up with is titanium backup, & mybackup root; but don't work , I used titannium backup for apps it worked, but couldn't restore playlist, data, and photos
Would like to see an application for this
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Photos should be somewhere in DCIM folder on your card, so no need for backup app, when it's easier to copy it manually wherever you need.
Apps and settings are backed up by Titanium, with the exception of those installed on card (if I'm correct).
As for playlists, I'm not sure, it may depend on particular player you're using, but I shouldn't expect any problems with Titanium as well - all in all it has separate mode for system/app data and settings backup.
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