VOICE navigation is useless... - Fascinate General

Why in the world is the volume so loud? I have it at full volume and it's like having my droid on 10% volume. Can't hear anything. Weird thing is that this phone has a louder speaker than my droid on anything else (calls, etc), but on navigation its useless.
Is there a fix for this?

Yes, there is a fix for this.
My account is too new to be allowed to post a link, but if you google "samsung fascinate navigation volume low" you should get a droidforums.net topic in the search results that has a fix for this.
I haven't tried it yet but plan to in the near future. Hope it helps!

bradlove17 said:
Yes, there is a fix for this.
My account is too new to be allowed to post a link, but if you google "samsung fascinate navigation volume low" you should get a droidforums.net topic in the search results that has a fix for this.
I haven't tried it yet but plan to in the near future. Hope it helps!
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Thank you very much for the link, works great! (and kudos to the guy who figured that all out in the first place!)

bradlove17 said:
Yes, there is a fix for this.
My account is too new to be allowed to post a link, but if you google "samsung fascinate navigation volume low" you should get a droidforums.net topic in the search results that has a fix for this.
I haven't tried it yet but plan to in the near future. Hope it helps!
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Link
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/tech-issues-bug-reports-suggestions/85987-facinate-g-nav-volume-too-low.html

atrich0608 said:
Link
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/tech-issues-bug-reports-suggestions/85987-facinate-g-nav-volume-too-low.html
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This change doesn't stick in DJ05, has anyone discovered a way that can make it stick? Or perhaps another way to get the navigation volume increased? It is a real important feature for me and I won't change to DJ05 if I can't increase the volume.

It's funny, isn't it: with DI01, you can't figure out where to go because GPS is busted; with DJ05, GPS works but you're still lost because you can't hear the directions.

jerkules said:
This change doesn't stick in DJ05, has anyone discovered a way that can make it stick? Or perhaps another way to get the navigation volume increased? It is a real important feature for me and I won't change to DJ05 if I can't increase the volume.
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plug it into your stereo
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I wasn't aware that the gps volume fix won't stay for DJ05. Does anyone know what resets it back to it's stock volume?

neh4pres said:
plug it into your stereo
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I do that. But every time I get a call I need to unplug it to have call go through my cars bluetooth.
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Related

[REF] Possible GPS Fix Epic 4G System File (experimental)

Anybody try this yet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=759976
If you do report back with your results.
Phaze13 said:
Anybody try this yet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=759976
If you do report back with your results.
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I have done it on my JH2 rom. Seems to be locking on marginally faster, but I haven't tested it with tracking yet, and probably won't be able to until tonight. The track that I saw using it did look better, but who knows if it will be that way for everybody.
Have you noticed any issues related to the change, ie worse call performance/quality, etc. as reported on some of the other posts regarding this issue and possible fixes?
There is a thread on this allready posted in general.
Is there mod who can merge these two so propel wont have to watch both threads and all reports are in one?
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jneilliii said:
Have you noticed any issues related to the change, ie worse call performance/quality, etc. as reported on some of the other posts regarding this issue and possible fixes?
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I haven't seen anything regarding those side effects with GPS fixes. No, I'm not experiencing anything like that. Phone still performs must like it did before.
chvybeatsford said:
There is a thread on this allready posted in general.
Is there mod who can merge these two so propel wont have to watch both threads and all reports are in one?
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I would merge the threads but the fixes are not the same. This fix is can be flashed in recovery. I would use this fix if you are running I9000 rom. I read in the original thread that there my be some differences in locations of the files for the captivate and vibrant so the fix may not put every thing in the right location. They are working on versions for captivate and vibrant. I loaded stock I9000 jm5 rom and applied the fix. It helped with accuracy but there is still lag.
Edit: It may be that just the vibrant is different.
Case_ said:
Now this is interesting. Trying to make that revert package for Vibrant...and the ROM is entirely different GPS-wise from I9000 and Captivate ROMs! There's no /system/bin/gpsd folder, there's no /system/etc/jupiter.xml and there's no /system/lib/libgps.so...
I wonder why...
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This has made GPS on my Captivate seems like it's not even trying to get a lock. :-\
I've got an Epic 4G waiting for me at home today. Any dev requests, just ask!
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InsaneJester17 said:
This has made GPS on my Captivate seems like it's not even trying to get a lock. :-\
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That is unfortunate. It seems to be helping me on JH2. I've changed my settings back to Standalone instead of MS based and I'm still locking onto as many satellites as I was before. Still not sure if it is holding a lock, but it is giving me 5 meter accuracy from inside my apartment. I'm hoping that the standalone mode does better at tracking than ms based.
dontshakepandas said:
That is unfortunate. It seems to be helping me on JH2. I've changed my settings back to Standalone instead of MS based and I'm still locking onto as many satellites as I was before. Still not sure if it is holding a lock, but it is giving me 5 meter accuracy from inside my apartment. I'm hoping that the standalone mode does better at tracking than ms based.
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I guess I should note I'm on JF6 in case it matters.

Navigation mount with EB13

Does the audio out on the mount work with this official update now?
I just tested it, and no it does not.
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Can anyone else verify that th audio outisnot working on the gps mount?
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won't be able to till tomorrow
I've actually seen a few posts on this, neither the car dock nor the desktop dock have audio out with eb13
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Sh0wNuF said:
I've actually seen a few posts on this, neither the car dock nor the desktop dock have audio out with eb13
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I know profanity is frowned upon, but my brain is screaming a verb (or 'doing' word) directed towards samsung...
Patch from the fascinate
See this from the XDA portal this morning. It might put you on a path to fixing this issue.
Gersonian said:
See this from the XDA portal this morning. It might put you on a path to fixing this issue.
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Damn you beat me to it.
Going to try it out when I leave for school this afternoon, but if this is indeed true, I will be beyond furious. The navigation mount's BOX says that when FroYo is released for the Epic, the audio jack will become functional. WTF
Gersonian said:
See this from the XDA portal this morning. It might put you on a path to fixing this issue.
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I just tried the car_cradle_patch.zip on my phone using CWM, and it put the phone into super slow motion mode when I restarted. I can't do anything, it takes MINUTES for anything to respond. Looks like I'll have to be wiping my phone again.
tw_car_dock.zip added a "car cradle" application, but the music player didn't play out of the line out on the car or desktop docks.
It was built for the Fascinate. Someone would probably have to mod their mod to get it working correctly on the Epic. Try putting a request out there and see if any devs bite. Might take a few days for someone to get to it because I am sure they are working on updating ROMs, etc.
I pulled apart the original and the modded version that were posted and there is literally one line different between the two (assuming I did it right, and I think I did). If it isn't working properly on our phones it's likely something to do with difference between our phone and the Fascinate/standard Galaxy S. Might help if we can get a logcat dump from the phone while the app is doing it's thing.
gremlyn1 said:
I pulled apart the original and the modded version that were posted and there is literally one line different between the two (assuming I did it right, and I think I did). If it isn't working properly on our phones it's likely something to do with difference between our phone and the Fascinate/standard Galaxy S. Might help if we can get a logcat dump from the phone while the app is doing it's thing.
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Sound like it is as simple as changing the audio channel its using. Maybe there is one not listed in the UI that is the usb audio out?
Audio is working with the fascinate mod.
I used cwm earlier today.Just make sure to place the zip in the root of your micro sd card and boot into cwm then select and flash.It is working perfectly with no force quits or lag after a reboot. Are you using the aosp music player patch or samsung music player patch? He has 2 different versions up. The aosp music player patch is the one i was able to use with no errors or lag.If you are using the samsung music player patch that will not work.
So I bought two docks home and car that said it would work with 2.2
Big surprise.......it doesn't. Awesome samsung.
I just spent 2 days dishwasher shopping. spent 800 bucks. guess who was off my list before I even LOOKED at them! That's right, samsung, you didn't even get on the list to start for reasons exactly like this.
Bump for y'all to see rpro95's post.
@ J3ff, if you have nothing constructive to say just hold off on posting as it looks like there are a couple of people in here who are willing to try and get this working or help the Epic users get it working/troubleshoot. I think most people in here are tired of the anti-samsung semantics.
I do not have the dock, but I am just trying to be helpful in this thread by tossing ideas out there. It seems like this is something that, in time, the community should be able to get working.
car dock AOSP audio out fix for music only.
This might work on the home dock as well.test it. I don't have a home dock.I know it works for my car dock.
If you need to have your tunes playing from your car dock do this.It will not work for third party apps.Only for the AOSP music player.You will get a prompt when you dock.Just select and you will get screen showing your dock icons for
phone:Music:Maps and voice search.
1. Need to have cwm to flash this.
2.download the patch from here on xda developers Adrynaylyne mod thread for the fascinate. http://adrynalyne.us/files/patches/car_cradle_patch.zip
3. Put on your SD card. I put mine in root.This worked for me.
4.Boot into cwm. Select zip and enjoy music on your epic through your cars speakers.This might work on the home dock as well.test it. I don't have a home dock.
Here is the solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966588
There is a version of the car home up on the market specifically for epic now.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.samsung.spr.carhome&feature=search_result
Geekybiker said:
There is a version of the car home up on the market specifically for epic now.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.samsung.spr.carhome&feature=search_result
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That's the version that was out months ago that got pulled from the market. Doesn't really do anything
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CM7 THUNDERKANG - "I love the smell of KANG in the morning" Edition - IN CALL AUDIO!

CM7 THUNDERKANG - "I love the smell of KANG in the morning" Edition - IN CALL AUDIO!
Same as the second release from slayher and the gang, except this bad boy has in call audio fixed
Update: Oh wait i forgot i also edited gps a little....dunno what the side effects are but gps is working on my end so all seems well.
Important update: you dont have to flash anything before this, its fully independant.
Enjoy!
http://www.multiupload.com/KPT2CY207F
Md5sum: 4cbe9fecd06e5521b26e4e7f62fbc41e
use the regular universal gapps from goo-inside.me
Note: I am not responsible for anything you do.
Note: Slayher and toastcf did most of the work, i just got tired waiting for source.
Note: Full credit also goes to the random woman who called me and i couldnt understand you and got frustrated enough to fix this. thanks lady
Edit: if your talking to someone on a non-fixed rom, the feedback is most likely still half as nasty.
ADVANCED USERS:
You might be able to improve your sound further by editing the following settings in build.prop:
htc.audio.alt.enable=
htc.audio.hac.enable=
1 = enabled 0 = disabled
let me know if you do play with this and find any improvements.
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Haven't made a call yet. Installing over top of my v2 now. Thanks for the fix
just made a call and it sounds much better!
GPS seems to lock and work in Google Maps. GPS Status/Tools (from the market) confirms locks.
Confirmed here.
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Can this just be flashed over first release or do we need to wipe?
tia,
jc
I'll be flashing this tonight! I was having a ton of trouble with the original because my audio was so terrible. Good looks man!
So tempting... must... fight.....temptation. I will most likely cave tonight.
Flashing now, let u know any issues
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mrchambo said:
Can this just be flashed over first release or do we need to wipe?
tia,
jc
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I flashed over slayher's initial release without wiping, without issue.
EVERYTHING IS WORKING FOR ME EVEN AFTER REBOOT
great great job here we finally got CM7 folks
Hate the 4 bar signal though.. always shows no signal for me at work lol.. Really want the 6 signal bar mod.
Excellent JOB! almost went back to BAMF due to the no GPS, but it is confirmed that now it works great, got a lock under 1 sec
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Does this fix the one speaker headphone issue? Or is that a different issue?
And the 4g icon is nothing short of aweful lol
Everything else is excellent
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Which radio does this newest fix work with? Or does it matter?
Any suggestion to get my GPS working?
No but its easily fixed by using voice to text once, you don't even need to send the text.
suzook said:
Does this fix the one speaker headphone issue? Or is that a different issue?
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Amazing. Mics are fixed and my gps is 100% working and is super accurate and locks on FAST. Thank you guys so much
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Now we just need some themes!!! LOL Thanks for all the devs hard work.

Google NAV fix, plus a ?

In this evo thread someone also noticed that turning sound off on nav fixes the fc's (also mentioned in an epic thread).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090186&page=130
They think its linked to tts, which is removed in several rom's, any thoughts?
Edit::: Ill get the desktop page # and xda app page # later if the link dosn't take you directly there, I would now, but I'm at work.
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I don't use the stock robot. I use the British lady from SVOX.
Ok, but since all of my ROMs, and anderson's Simply AOSP v4 exclude tts and some language files, I'm wondering if its the problem. I don't even think NAV uses the missing files, but maybe they need to be in place.
It uses the stock tts so you may need to copy that back in. Push to system/app. Pull it out of the deodexed stock rom.
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Thanks man, but I guess I'm really looking for some insight, just want to know if not having tts installed could cause the wide spread google NAV FC problem. Anyone?
malcolmXman said:
Thanks man, but I guess I'm really looking for some insight, just want to know if not having tts installed could cause the wide spread google NAV FC problem. Anyone?
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Technically, yes since it is missing the necessary support file for the voice. I am surprised that it doesn't have an error message about "tts not installed" or something though. And is it wide spread? This is the first I am hearing about it..unlike the 6 threads on su binaries. I am guessing you are correct and it is ROM specific. Flash the full stock rom deodex and see if that fixes it for you.
kennyglass123 said:
Technically, yes since it is missing the necessary support file for the voice. I am surprised that it doesn't have an error message about "tts not installed" or something though. And is it wide spread? This is the first I am hearing about it..unlike the 6 threads on su binaries. I am guessing you are correct and it is ROM specific. Flash the full stock rom deodex and see if that fixes it for you.
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So true about the 6 su threads, lol... Ill do the testing I guess, was just trying to cut some corners. And I would say it is sorta wide spread if using a ROM that's affected, thanks man.
malcolmXman said:
So true about the 6 su threads, lol... Ill do the testing I guess, was just trying to cut some corners. And I would say it is sorta wide spread if using a ROM that's affected, thanks man.
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Haha, you can't say the world revolves around you....
Everyone knows it revolves around me...LOL!
Yeah dude, fix it and post it. Be the hero. Which ROM are you on?
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malcolmXman said:
In this evo thread someone also noticed that turning sound off on nav fixes the fc's (also mentioned in an epic thread).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090186&page=130
They think its linked to tts, which is removed in several rom's, any thoughts?
Edit::: Ill get the desktop page # and xda app page # later if the link dosn't take you directly there, I would now, but I'm at work.
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Just making sure I understand what fc you're referring to specifically; are you talking about the 'invisible' fc that happens associated with gps where it basically stops working in Google Nav? Or is this a different one? The reason I ask is, if its the one I'm thinking of, it happens in every pre-official stock Gingerbread ROM release I've tried, but doesn't on EC05, and if this is the same thing you're referencing, I'd be pretty confident in saying that a *lack* of TTS doesn't cause it anyway. If its something different you're referencing then...my bad
Well that's what I'm sorta trying to narrow down, I always used TeleNAV on GB. But in Simply AOSP v4 I do see an FC about 1min into NAV, but once muted it dosnt happen. I wonder if someone has/could try the mute trick on GB to see if that fixes "the hidden FC".
I am on Hurricane and use SVOX British Lady and don't get any FC or vibration, EH17 ROM and modem.
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Interesting....I wasn't even aware of SVOX until this thread. I don't know when I'll have cause to go somewhere long enough to try it (I live about 3 miles from where I work), but I downloaded SVOX plus the 'Victoria' UK voice you mentioned and will try it (on EG22 here) next time I'm going anywhere of more significant length. If switching off of Pico fixes this issue I'll be thrilled, I haven't been able to consistently rely on Google Nav through Maps since EC05.
Yeah, I never used Google Nav because I hated Mrs. Roboto but with the British chick it is more tolerable.
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hmm
i used to turn off the volume and the ff would go away in the past i thought everyone would do that. but the g maps is buggy on the epic. sometimes the volume would cut out on its own and freeze. or freeze for some other reasons. sorry i have used so many different roms and i used to use the gps daily when i rode the bike alot. but i havent used it in awhile for the epic. i moved to the nexus
Edit::: Thanks Kenny, it looks like it was tts.
kennyglass123 said:
Haha, you can't say the world revolves around you....
Everyone knows it revolves around me...LOL!
Yeah dude, fix it and post it. Be the hero. Which ROM are you on?
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Sorry I'm late, but I'm on Simply AOSP v4. Tts was the problem.
malcolmXman said:
Sorry I'm late, but I'm on Simply AOSP v4. Tts was the problem.
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Nice job. Did you post your fix in the ROM thread?
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Someone else did, but I had already posted thats what I thought the problem was. If anderson620 dosnt post an update.zip, or release version 4.1 with the fix, I will post the update.zip.

ICS: Tips & Tricks

With the popularity of Passion & OneCosmic posts, I'm sure there are a few Tips & Tricks people have found. Please share!!
Tip: Notification bar is accessible from 'lock screen'. No need to unlock to turn on Wi-Fi, BT, 3G, etc. or to read new SMS.
I think this is a great idea.
Let's make sure this is about Tips and Tricks and not "My GPS isn't working" or "Why can't they hear me on the other end of my call".
My tip:
USE YOUR PHONE. Unlock the potential and use it. When we see pix of CPUspy showing Deep Sleep for 20+ hours, sure you are getting great battery life, but you are not using your phone as it should be. They want to be, nay!!, they need to be used, listened to, downloaded on,...then you will truly know what your battery life is like.
In about my phone, tap 4.0.3 really quickly, hen long press the abdroid
sent from the xda app on my android smartphone.
Here's a tip to save some battery power: Settings\More\Airplane mode.
That should do it.
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folders at the bottom
I use folders in place of the trebuchet dock apps. that way my homescreen is uncluttered.
Settings >developer options >kill app back button
I use this quite often and missed it from miui.
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Woodrube said:
I think this is a great idea.
Let's make sure this is about Tips and Tricks and not "My GPS isn't working" or "Why can't they hear me on the other end of my call".
My tip:
USE YOUR PHONE. Unlock the potential and use it. When we see pix of CPUspy showing Deep Sleep for 20+ hours, sure you are getting great battery life, but you are not using your phone as it should be. They want to be, nay!!, they need to be used, listened to, downloaded on,...then you will truly know what your battery life is like.
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Well said! I used to be obsessed with battery life and realized I was not enjoying my phone's full features! I bought 2 spares and a wall charger from Ebay and now carry them with me in my car and backpack. I am ENJOYING my phone now! Feels great!
Why would people complain that others cant hear them on the other end? Is that a known problem on ics passion?
Galaxy Nexus Manual
Here's a copy of the Galaxy Nexus Manual. It has lots of good info regarding using ICS.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17980900/galaxynexus_manual (1).pdf
when using GPS, make sure to turn wifi on even when you are driving or outdoor or out of wifi range/connection.. just turn it on..
it will make a difference..
probably works on all ROMS.. i used to always skip turning wifi on when i don't get wifi connection.. LOL,
Vibrant03 said:
when using GPS, make sure to turn wifi on even when you are driving or outdoor or out of wifi range/connection.. just turn it on..
it will make a difference..
probably works on all ROMS.. i used to always skip turning wifi on when i don't get wifi connection.. LOL,
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What does this accomplish?
Would be nice to know how to disable roaming, not data cause I already know that, just having the ability to have your phone not roam ever, unless you want it to
phone_noobie said:
Would be nice to know how to disable roaming, not data cause I already know that, just having the ability to have your phone not roam ever, unless you want it to
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Settings>Press menu button> data roaming
Is that what you're talking about
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Settings>Press menu button> data roaming
Is that what you're talking about
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No he is referring to Voice roaming. So that if he leaves state people can't get a hold of him.
xriderx66 said:
Settings>Press menu button> data roaming
Is that what you're talking about
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Raistline said:
No he is referring to Voice roaming. So that if he leaves state people can't get a hold of him.
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Bingo! Like I initially said, I already know how to turn data roaming off, I want the ability for the voice roaming to be turned off. I had this feature in my previous ROM, which was Team Whiskey's Nero
Bluetooth headset - How to enable auto answer
Hi all,
using passion for quite sometime enjoying all its features, please help me in two issues:
1) While using bluetooth headset, how to enable auto answer option in the phone (Suppose I am unable to touch phone or headset to answer the call)
2) While I am talking to one person using the phone, if I want to access the phonebook, the call goes to hold, and it unholds only I resume the call, in this case what happens that I have to memorise the phone no of any contact to tell the person on call
both these features were well present in my prev ROM, bionix 1.3.1
please help
phone_noobie said:
Bingo! Like I initially said, I already know how to turn data roaming off, I want the ability for the voice roaming to be turned off. I had this feature in my previous ROM, which was Team Whiskey's Nero
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Umm freeze telephony in titaniumbackup? Will that work?
drsgon said:
Hi all,
using passion for quite sometime enjoying all its features, please help me in two issues:
1) While using bluetooth headset, how to enable auto answer option in the phone (Suppose I am unable to touch phone or headset to answer the call)
2) While I am talking to one person using the phone, if I want to access the phonebook, the call goes to hold, and it unholds only I resume the call, in this case what happens that I have to memorise the phone no of any contact to tell the person on call
both these features were well present in my prev ROM, bionix 1.3.1
please help
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Are you serious.
Read the title.
Ask passion questions in the passion thread.
This is not a Q&A thread.
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Woodrube said:
I think this is a great idea.
Let's make sure this is about Tips and Tricks and not "My GPS isn't working" or "Why can't they hear me on the other end of my call".
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xriderx66 said:
Are you serious.
Read the title.
Ask passion questions in the passion thread.
This is not a Q&A thread.
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Hmm, took longer than I thought to de-evolve into a Q&A thread.
xriderx66 said:
Are you serious.
Read the title.
Ask passion questions in the passion thread.
This is not a Q&A thread.
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Thank you for your advice Sir, I will follow this in future. Though I have read regarding this in the initial posts of the thread, I had to ask these simple questions to you learned persons as my post count is not more than 10 and so, I am not able to ask in the passion thread. I do not like to make useless posts in the forum as done by many people.
P.S.: Mods, if you think that this post should be removed you are welcome

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