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Was wondering..
I seen once you update to the early 2.1 update floating around there's no going back to 1.5, which is fine.. I've done the update and have no problems.
However, if they were to tweak more and make the 2.1 update better by the time the official one releases, will our phones still receive the update? Or will it register as already having 2.1 and not pick up on it?
First off please search the Forum and the entire internet before asking questions. I am not trying to be a jerk it is just that if everyone started a new thread for a question this place would be horrible.
Second of all if you have a question related to something you already see a thread started about feel free to drop in and post the question after you have used the search function. Again not trying to be a jerk but about half of the 70+ pages in the 2.1 Leak thread are repetitive questions.
So use the search function and if you still don't find the answer ask it in the 2.1 Leak thread.
Thank you and good luck on the search!
j18yo said:
Was wondering..
I seen once you update to the early 2.1 update floating around there's no going back to 1.5, which is fine.. I've done the update and have no problems.
However, if they were to tweak more and make the 2.1 update better by the time the official one releases, will our phones still receive the update? Or will it register as already having 2.1 and not pick up on it?
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Well, for one, I'm okay answering questions again. IF HTC releases another 2.1 ROM, we can update if we recieve the PB00IMG.ZIP. From what I"ve heard, most of the 2.1 upates won't be OTA, they'll be a process you have to do with a rom update utility from your computer. So we'll recieve that PB00IMG.zip and be able to update just like we did here.
If they release an OTA, they'll have to put two out. One for the 1.5 users, and one for the hacked 2.1. OTA's are designed to update from a certain version to the next, they contain files that are overwritten, not a complete new firmware. That is why the last two OTA updates were 11mb, and the leaked rom was 103MB.
Simply put. If we get an RUU (Rom Update Utility), we will be able to update. If not, I'll give verizon a call and tell them the update failed, I contacted HTC, and they told me to get the Rom Update Utility from them. If we get it, we'll have the newest update
Enjoy!
tdavis42 said:
First off please search the Forum and the entire internet before asking questions. I am not trying to be a jerk it is just that if everyone started a new thread for a question this place would be horrible.
Second of all if you have a question related to something you already see a thread started about feel free to drop in and post the question after you have used the search function. Again not trying to be a jerk but about half of the 70+ pages in the 2.1 Leak thread are repetitive questions.
So use the search function and if you still don't find the answer ask it in the 2.1 Leak thread.
Thank you and good luck on the search!
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and you realize upping my new thread and yet not answering does no help to the forum being clogged either right? lol you may as well have answered it or not responded at all
anyways thanks zifna appreciated was just curious
I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread regarding everything that's going to happen regarding Sprint's official 2.1 update, including steps we should take if we want to use it, and what the consequences will be. I'm not an expert on these things, but there are lots of people here who are, and centralizing that information will probably be very helpful to lots of folks once this update is rolled out.
For starters, what will we have to do if we want to install the update? wipe, restore nandroid backup, receive OTA update?
Secondly, will there be anyway to maintain root on the device and also install their official 2.1?
Thirdly, will there be any real advantage to installing the official sprint update?
If anyone has any answers to these questions, or wants to ask other questions, or has any other pertinent information on what this 2.1 update process will entail, please post it here so we can all learn. Thanks!
ASULutzy said:
Secondly, will there be anyway to maintain root on the device and also install their official 2.1?
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Not that I'm aware of. Nor is it clear that we will be able to root the same way as we did the 1.5.
ASULutzy said:
I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread regarding everything that's going to happen regarding Sprint's official 2.1 update, including steps we should take if we want to use it, and what the consequences will be. I'm not an expert on these things, but there are lots of people here who are, and centralizing that information will probably be very helpful to lots of folks once this update is rolled out.
For starters, what will we have to do if we want to install the update? wipe, restore nandroid backup, receive OTA update?
Secondly, will there be anyway to maintain root on the device and also install their official 2.1?
Thirdly, will there be any real advantage to installing the official sprint update?
If anyone has any answers to these questions, or wants to ask other questions, or has any other pertinent information on what this 2.1 update process will entail, please post it here so we can all learn. Thanks!
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1. The update might wipe your phone. Expected to be OTA.
2. Nobody but Sprint knows if the root exploit is patched. Wait for release, dont update right away, wait for confirmation of root.
3. The way I see it, the only benefit is that 2.1 ROMs will have everything working "officially". Sprint stock ROMs are full of crapware.
just wait till it realeased and your questions will be answered no one knows what the updates going to do or included in it
Regarding whether or not the same root exploit will work, I'm not a real expert on phone development or Android, but I am a software engineer and a real Linux nerd.
Presumably the 2.1 images will also include a much newer kernel that has long since patched that old fs pipe exploit. But who knows, maybe they won't. Either way, there are always occasional local root exploits found within the linux kernel, so it would just be a matter of time.
The way I see it is the Eris users finally have root on 1.5 but whoever updated to the leaked 2.1 can't get root... If Eris = Hero, 2.1 < 1.5. Hahh.
Kinda off-topic here, but the OP needs to fix the title of the thread. If you go into the OP, hit Edit, then hit Advanced Edit, you can change it
Root can only take so long. Once the source is released there's no way to stop people from baking an AOSP with root.
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Kinda off-topic here, but the OP needs to fix the title of the thread. If you go into the OP, hit Edit, then hit Advanced Edit, you can change it
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Thanks! lol, I thought it would be under advanced thread tools and when it wasn't I gave up looking
Once we get a ruu of the stock upgrade we should be able to extract the necessary files to make a full update.zip of the stock rom with root already applied. So if you dont want to lose root access then don't jump the gun when the update Goes official.
The only thing that I seem to be missing with Damagecontrol is certain webpages refuse to load. 99% of the webpages I access work fine. AFAIK all other features function 100% and I've had BETTER battery life after flashing this with the updated PRL.
I have a feeling it'll be a while before I finally migrate to a ROM based on the official build being that I'm so satisfied with this one.
You can take this with a grain of salt. I just finished a chat with a sprint tech using the chat feature on their site. This person said that the update will be OTA and that there was no specified date yet.
"It will be OTA. We are actively working on having the Android 2.1 platform available to our Hero and Moment customers over the coming weeks. However, there is no fixed date has been mentioned here."
So if this tech has the correct info then I doubt the 26th of March is going to be the date as some have stated. But this person may not have access to everything that is why I say take it with a grain of salt.
Just updated to 2.1 OTA. Not bad, kind of sluggish, but to be expected from an official version.
............yeah no. So much for March eh?
MrTrip said:
Just updated to 2.1 OTA. Not bad, kind of sluggish, but to be expected from an official version.
............yeah no. So much for March eh?
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march isn't over yet.
....i say more like april or may tbh. i heard the nexus launch might be in june so it makes sense to release 2.1 closer to that considering the n1 runs 2.1.
fixxxer2008 said:
march isn't over yet.
....i say more like april or may tbh. i heard the nexus launch might be in june so it makes sense to release 2.1 closer to that considering the n1 runs 2.1.
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Oh well, thanks damageless for 2.1 on my Hero all ready.
I'm new to the forum and I'm not a developer but I thought I would give out some information regarding the recent update I did for 2.2. Just a few issues since the update (build ERE27):
*I've had to reboot my phone a couple of times to restore 3G
*Had to reboot my phone to get the Gmail icon to open Gmail (instead it would open a browser that wouldn't load)
*The trackball has been lighting up without any notifications
Those are the only issues I've noticed so far. Aside of that, 2.2 has been great.
beaniejones said:
I'm new to the forum and I'm not a developer but I thought I would give out some information regarding the recent update I did for 2.2. Just a few issues since the update (build ERE27):
*I've had to reboot my phone a couple of times to restore 3G
*Had to reboot my phone to get the Gmail icon to open Gmail (instead it would open a browser that wouldn't load)
*The trackball has been lighting up without any notifications
Those are the only issues I've noticed so far. Aside of that, 2.2 has been great.
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Hmm don't have any of these issues.
Maybe you didn't wipe properly when flashing froyo? I'd say try to reinstall it, looks like it's not FroYo problems, but something went wrong upon flashing/configuration.
Side note, did you originally have ERE27 or did you have to download it? (I see in your signature that you have the ATT version)
beaniejones said:
Side note, did you originally have ERE27 or did you have to download it? (I see in your signature that you have the ATT version)
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I am Nexus One AT&T user could you tell me how to upgrade to Froyo. I dont really know anything about Androids. Im a newbie I got it on Friday
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I am Nexus One AT&T user could you tell me how to upgrade to Froyo. I dont really know anything about Androids. Im a newbie I got it on Friday
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Seriously? Don't. Do a lot of reading, and then read some more. Once you're done, read more again. Once you've read all you can, and you feel you know enough to not call yourself a noob, you're almost there. Now start reading all over again.
If you really really want to do something, don't go for froyo. Flash a custom rom like cyanogen, and get acquainted with the flashing process. The froyo release is more of a beta/pre-release version, and a noob shouldn't want anything to do with it. Wait for the OTA if you really want froyo.
flash froyo. Then wait for cyanogen to make a froyo rom, then flash that. Or, you can just wait for the OTA update. IF you need to know how to flash, there are wikis and tutorials at the beginning of forums. Read those b/c if you just ask, you will be destroyed.
How much of a threat is the OTA/radio to future roms and rooting. I want to flash but not if it will jeopardize future endeavors....unrevoked twitter says not to...
As for the official ota that will be pushed by verizon I would not install it until unrevoked took a look at it, the leaked ota can be returned to stock and is fairly safe if you know what you are doing and have taken some time to read.
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jbizzle, MachString's right. Its safe to update to leaked OTA 2.2, and you don't lose root in the process. I recommend SkyRaider 2.0.1 once you've installed the leaked OTA 2.2 Radio and ROM as it's De-Odexed and give a much needed boost of performance w/ CityID and Footprints removed. Follow the steps to update to Leaked 2.2 and then download ROM Manager from Android Market and install SkyRaider 2.0.1 that way
Third
I am no stranger to rooting or to modified ROMs. I will tell you that I am not installing the "buggy beta" that everyone else has jumped on.
Personally, my plan of attack is to wait until unrEVOked gets the real OTA and sees if they can root it. If they can, then this is a no brainer ... avoid the "buggy beta" at all costs, install the pure ota with the proper radio, and root.
If unrEVOked cannot break it; then its a different question and up to your tastes.
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I am no stranger to rooting or to modified ROMs. I will tell you that I am not installing the "buggy beta" that everyone else has jumped on.
Personally, my plan of attack is to wait until unrEVOked gets the real OTA and sees if they can root it. If they can, then this is a no brainer ... avoid the "buggy beta" at all costs, install the pure ota with the proper radio, and root.
If unrEVOked cannot break it; then its a different question and up to your tastes.
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Its actually not too buggy. I understand your perspective, but I encourage you to give the rom a try for yourself. Its reversible!
There is also a thread in the dev section outlining all of the confirmed bugs. All of which are minor, and most have been patched. There are no deal breakers here.
The only potential for failure lies within flashing the radio. Do your research on the process.
It's very usable for me.
It is very usable. I even made a Rom based on it.
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I'm actually surprised how many posts there are about the Leaked 2.2
Personally, I'd wait until the official one is released and then wait until it can be installed without the OTA. Then you preserve your root and other capabilities.
For those who can afford to mess up their phone and play with new stuff, I can understand... but a lot of people are clearly doing this that shouldn't be.
People who don't have patience, able to read and follow instructions and pull their batteries after waiting a minute or two, shouldn't be doing this.
Also, wait until the official release and try to search for help with all the leaked messages that have been posted. Will make getting real info for the real release harder to find.
Welp
Regrettably, unrEVOked just learned that the 2.2 for the EVO does remove root; and I have to assume that it will be the same for the Incredible. For those of us not willing to use the "buggy beta" this is bad news. I am sure they will be working on it, but it means sitting on 2.1 for a longer time.
I don't see how people are saying the beta is buggy. I've used it, I've used.sky raider.2.0, and I have developed and tested a Rom based off of it, jdfroyo v1
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jdkoreclipse said:
I don't see how people are saying the beta is buggy. I've used it, I've used.sky raider.2.0, and I have developed and tested a Rom based off of it, jdfroyo v1
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No major bugs here either, but the beta does seem to drain my battery like crazy fast and the Temp was higher than normal, I just flashed back to 2.1 to see if there will be a difference.
Edit: back on 2.1 and the battery usage seems much better and cooler, on 2.2 it was around 105°F and on 2.1 around 97.7°F
Huh?
jdkoreclipse said:
I don't see how people are saying the beta is buggy. I've used it, I've used.sky raider.2.0, and I have developed and tested a Rom based off of it, jdfroyo v1
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Really?
LEAKED Stock 2.2 ROM - **CONFIRMED BUGS**
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738634
[PATCH] Bug fixes for leaked Froyo -- Updated v3 (Fixes Gmail, Market & Superuser)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738799
Leaked 2.2 Data Connectivity Issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738995
At least they changed the topic heading of the original release thread to say "Some Bugs".
I am not going to preach from the mountaintop here ... people want to go thru these fairly dangerous hurdles to install the bugged rom, they can go for it. This is 1 cliff I ain't leaping off of (at least while there is hope that the real 2.2 will be shortly released and hopefully rooted)
I stumbled across a page a few days ago, and someone said that if you take the 2.2 update through Sprint, you'll lose your root (I know this part) but he also said you won't be able to root in the future.
Is this true? If so then I'd definitely prefer jumping on a 2.2 ROM and using that instead of receiving the update via Sprint.
I would like to use the Cyro ROM or whatever, but I don't like the idea of not having my FM radio or 4G etc etc.
Just use Fresh 3.0 (based on 2.2) then you can keep all the HTC/Sprint stuff you want.
Any official updates - past, present, and future - will break root. If you are rooted and don't want to lose root, be patient and wait a couple days for the dudes here to put out a rooted ROM without having to wait for a root exploit. When updating to an official ROM there is a likelihood that there will be no root exploit to discover and thus you will be S.O.L. when it comes to regaining root. Patience.
There are currently several 2.2 ROMs based off of the official leak (but it's supposedly not the final build). Look for the rooted ones by netarchy or whoever.
just give it a few more days. the official v2.2 should go out tomorrow. just don't accept the OTA update.
if you are planning on rooting your phone then do not accept any Over The Air updates (yes OTA can jak ur root). the official comes out on 8/3 so give it till the weekend and you should have updated ROMs using the latest greatest. anyone updating to the leaked version 'should' be ok but will prolly be updating again once their ROM gets the official updates. save yourself the stress and wait til the dust settles...unless ur big into the geeking on your EVO...then just make sure your nandroids are good.
Cyanogen will be nice. however, due to that teams philosophy on using opensource code you may not see 4G as fast as you will with some of our other devs (godspeed to madcoders fingers). I'm probably going to load the Fresh 3.0 ROM later this week...once the dust has settled. i miss my 4G.
If you want to keep root, DO NOT download anything from sprint, only download from XDA and the like.
mrono said:
If you want to keep root, DO NOT download anything from sprint, only download from XDA and the like.
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OTA has been known to cause:
Anal Seepage.
Watch.
Right after someone takes it, they are gonna come here wanting root...
If you do OTA, either wait for Root, or SHUT UP!
Don't whine, don't b!tch, and don't say you didn't know!
I am not in hurry to upgrade to 2.2, I don't mind waiting. I've had my phone two weeks and I've barely rooted it and it's still not even setup the way I want it yet because I know I'll be flashing soon anyways.
Looks like Fresh 3.0 will be the way to go, I'll just wait until a bit after the 3rd so I have the final build.
I downloaded the update just so I could have the file I don't want to actually install it. Anyone know where the file is downloaded too so I can pull it off my phone?