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Forget Cupcake, Donut Update? O.o?

Cupcake = 1.5
Donut = 2.0
Apparently if Rosie aka HTC Sense is going to be released OFFICIALLY to Dream and Magic, its gonna be the Donut update (2.0)? can anyone confirm?
I found this comment on youtube regarding Hayrukos Hero/Rosie rom
If you buy an HTC Magic it is very likely (though not impossible) that you will never get the 'Rosie' skin. Rosie was developed by HTC to enhance the look and feel of Android like they do with WinMo. You will certainly get the update to succeed Cupcake (1.5) for Android which is known as Donut (2.0) This is because the update is to underlying software, not the look. Hope that makes sense!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiU3v_VLmcY

HTC Sense is only being released on HTC-branded HTC phones, not Google-branded HTC phones. That means for example it will go out to HTC Magic phones but not T-Mobile MyTouch phones (which run the same hardware but are branded and supported differently).
HTC Sense is a replacement launcher/UI for Cupcake. Donut is a completely new build of Android. In otherwords, installing HTC Sense would be like putting a paint job on a car while installing Donut would be like installing a new engine and powertrain. In other words, they are completely different things.

besides.... donut was never a build, neither was cupcake.....
Android 1.5 is just that, android 1.5. Android 2.0 will be 2.0. Cupcake is a development branch where developers can upload their contribution outside of the read-only main branch. What you see right now in cupcake will (probably) be in android 2.0, and 2.3, and 2.7, and 3.0, and so on. Cupcake, as google said, is very much a work in progress. I'm not sure where donut comes in, I think it's cupcake's unstable branch, so things that have yet to be tested have to go through donut first, and then if they're approved, they'll be moved to cupcake, and then whenever google feels like it, they'll import whatever they want into the main branch (which nobody but google can write to, but everybody can download the source and build their own flavor of android off of it).
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besides, HTC had already said they'd try to bring sense (pun intended) to their existing android phones, though they won't be doing it to google branded ones. That means, though, probably a rosie port to dream, but only adp version, which shouldn't be much problem to port over, right guys
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/06/25/htcs-sense-ui-not-coming-to-any-google-branded-phones/
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actually, i don't know because i'm not in canada, but isn't roger's dream NOT a google phone? it's easy to find out, if it says "with GOOGLE" on the back, it's a google phone, if it doesn't then it's not. That means that roger's might get sense, then we can port it

That would be awesome, as I own an ADP

Dredge said:
That would be awesome, as I own an ADP
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You don't need to own an ADP phone to run these... Just an ADP based ROM

Rosie on a non rooted g1 would be amazing

a stable rosie with no bugs and fast speed would b amazing.

let me correct myself, posted very late at night after work, according to whackypedia, though android is open source, all development goes on under a private development branch. for the parts that are being privately developed, cupcake was created to show the world what is being worked on, but this is read-only. donut is the open contribution branch, where google's android team will usually find worthy projects and then import them to their main branch.

jubeh said:
That means, though, probably a rosie port to dream, but only adp version, which shouldn't be much problem to port over, right guys
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If im not mistaken ADP1 is a "with google" phone. Regardless of whether it is or isn't, my intuition is that Rosie is a product that will only be pushed out to HTC's own marketed-for-consumers phones, so I doubt it will be released for ADP1. Only phones that are sold under their HTC original names (e.g. Dream, Magic, Hero) should receive Sense.

jubeh: The Rogers Dream is NOT a "with GOOGLE" phone because it has Microsoft's Exchange support and for the record it dose not have "with GOOGLE" on the back cover not like that would really matter since its just cosmetic and you can change the back cover.

so if i scratch off "with google" on the back of my phone ill b able to get the update OTA right? (lololol joke, don't take this seriously and start flaming)

you're missing the point :facepalm:, but yeah, thanks for confirming rogers is not a google phone

If you have a rooted phone then you shouldn't even care if your phone is "with Google" or not. The rooted devices don't receive OTA updates at all. Updating has to be done manually on these phones. Just install the modded rom when it becomes available. However, if you have a non-rooted "with Google", you will never get HTC Sense without rooting it first.

alright cool thanks for clarifying guys.

Donut/1.6 on HTC Hero

Hey Guys,
I was wondering that since Google is already sharing the Donut Love with G1's and Magic's when are we gonna see some Donut love for our lovely piece of Hardware we all know as HERO ...
I am guessing Htc is working on the 1.6 SDK provided by Google to integrate it with ROSIE, but i am thinking the Developers here are alot faster than the guys and HTC.
So can we get a Rosie with 1.6 which is rooted ofcourse but nothing else... no other modifications i mean.
Respect to all.
Cheeers

nadeemhasnaat said:
Hey Guys,
I was wondering that since Google is already sharing the Donut Love with G1's and Magic's when are we gonna see some Donut love for our lovely piece of Hardware we all know as HERO ...
I am guessing Htc is working on the 1.6 SDK provided by Google to integrate it with ROSIE, but i am thinking the Developers here are alot faster than the guys and HTC.
So can we get a Rosie with 1.6 which is rooted ofcourse but nothing else... no other modifications i mean.
Respect to all.
Cheeers
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Good question, I would love to see that as well... BUT I suppose it is not possible without the kernel sourse, unless Sprint's Hero comes out with 1.6 and then its ROM is ported to our European Heros. That's up to the devs!

Well the Sprint Hero HAS to come with Donut... It's CDMA, and that's only supported in Donut, so I'm almost 100% positive it will ship with Donut.

chaoscentral said:
Well the Sprint Hero HAS to come with Donut... It's CDMA, and that's only supported in Donut, so I'm almost 100% positive it will ship with Donut.
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That was what I thought. But Joshua @ Engadget told me that their Sprint Hero review unit only has Android 1.5 on it. Well, Android 1.6 added support for CDMA does not necessarily mean that one cannot write a driver for Android 1.5 to support CDMA.
But anyway, I do think that it is almost likely that HTC will release a 1.6 update for the Hero in a not too distance future.

The Google experience G1s and Magics are purely that - stock Cupcake ROMs. The Hero presents a slight challenge as HTC put a lot of love into the ROM, with the addition of SenseUI. Hopefully, it won't take that long to cook a Donut ROM with SenseUI, but just making the transition of the great innovations from HTC for the Hero will be the stumbling block for a Donut-based ROM.

HTC Response to my Donut question.
I asked when they'd release a ROM using Dognut ( 1.6 ) for the Hero.
Their reply:
Good Morning, HTC do not release the ROM updates. Google do. If you have any questions relating thier operating system, the updates, its benefits and release dates please visit www.android.com for further support. Here at HTC, we manufacture the hardware on the device and release hotfixes for when reported bugs needs resolution. If you have a technical support related query regarding the device, please do not hesitate to contact us again. Kind Regards, HTC Europe
This has constantly been my experience with HTC - ask them a question and they say contact Google.

J-Zeus said:
I asked when they'd release a ROM using Dognut ( 1.6 ) for the Hero.
Their reply:
Good Morning, HTC do not release the ROM updates. Google do. If you have any questions relating thier operating system, the updates, its benefits and release dates please visit www.android.com for further support. Here at HTC, we manufacture the hardware on the device and release hotfixes for when reported bugs needs resolution. If you have a technical support related query regarding the device, please do not hesitate to contact us again. Kind Regards, HTC Europe
This has constantly been my experience with HTC - ask them a question and they say contact Google.
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Man thats so frustrating innit. I am sure if we ask google, they wont comment either coz our hero is not with "GOOGLE EXPERIENCE" ..... what a load of cr*p
well i actually snooped around and heard a couple of ppl say that it should not be a difficult task for HTC to induce Rosie into 1.6, infact one of them even said " should be a peice of cake" so i am a hopless optimist and hopefully it'll be sent as an OTA upgrade or " HOTFIX " by HTC soon...
I'll call HTC too and see if i can get any more info out

update
Just got off the phone with a customer support officer from HTC UK. And she said that while they dont have the exact date on when HTC will issue and update bundled with Donut, It is under works and will be sooner rather than later..... now the waiting games begin

correct me if I'm wrong, but 1.6 doesn't bring that much for us Hero owners right? When the first announcements came I looked through the "Whats new" list and I didn't start shouting from excitement

dipje said:
correct me if I'm wrong, but 1.6 doesn't bring that much for us Hero owners right? When the first announcements came I looked through the "Whats new" list and I didn't start shouting from excitement
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well the only notable improvement might be of the speed and performance, although google didn't shout about it so i m thinking it'll be minimalistic ... however detailed battery usage, universal search and test to speech are a few things i wouldn't mind having....
But actually for me its just about getting the latest updates on the Android flagship device...

dipje said:
correct me if I'm wrong, but 1.6 doesn't bring that much for us Hero owners right? When the first announcements came I looked through the "Whats new" list and I didn't start shouting from excitement
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One benefit will be being able to run any future apps that require 1.6 (use 1.6-specific API features). We already have apps that run only on 1.5 or higher...

system-wide search feature would be nice...

I'm not sure if anyone has noticed this, but I signed up to point it out:
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/tattoo/specification.html
http://developer.htc.com/htc_tattoo_developer.html
The Tattoo will be shipping with Android 1.6, and it uses the Sense UI. That should mean that it isn't too far off for the Hero.

Looks promising! and the Tatoo is Due to launch orange UK this month

VPN and Global search are the two main features I am most excited about in the Donut

It's supposed to be faster also.

Does 1.6 not also include the improved App Store for Android?

mjames_84 said:
Does 1.6 not also include the improved App Store for Android?
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yes it does

http://drop.io/g1i9pj0 hero is getting donut....you might also be getting a snapdragon hero.

I installed donut on my girlfriends g1 yesterday and it seemed much faster than cupcake.

Dream getting Sense but no 2.1

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Just got an email from HTC saying that the HTC Magic and Dream on Rogers will both get upgrades which add the HTC Sense user interface. This upgrade will keep Android at version 1.5
Later this year the HTC Magic (NOT the Dream) will get another upgrade which will bring Android up to version 2.1.

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Just got an email from HTC saying that the HTC Magic and Dream on Rogers will both get upgrades which add the HTC Sense user interface. This upgrade will keep Android at version 1.5
Later this year the HTC Magic (NOT the Dream) will get another upgrade which will bring Android up to version 2.1.
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Nightmare.
Obviously at the request of robbers...
And further confirms everything I've said about robbers before regarding the DREAM.....
They are TRYING their BEST to make the hardware appear inadequate. Now they are loading it with stupid ugly bloatUI.... rather than upgrading it to the latest system image.

Official Android 2.x Sense UI for HTC Magic 32A

Anyone knows if 32a is getting 2.x? When will it be released......
updates:
With reference to This Thread
The HTC Magic will be upgradable to 2.1 by mid-year.
http://twitter.com/RogersHelps/status/10927130422
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Yes, by May 2010 we should all have it on our Magic (if HTC keeps up to its promises).

rawr. may seems so far now...

Per this link, it will be June or July by the time it makes it to the public. Maybe it'll leak before that time...
http://androidforums.com/rogers/52738-we-met-rogers-good.html

Got this off HTC Singapore Facebook Wall.
Dear XXX, the Hero Upgrade would be in May 2010. For Magic and Tattoo users, there would not be any upgrade. Please call our service hotline at 1800 238 7788 if you have queries. Cheers
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Hi XXX, as confirmed by our product manager, there will not be any andriod 2.1 update for Magic and Tattoo. So sorry if any of the teams had give you a wrong idea. My sincere apologies.
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What kind of service is this?
And do they know the difference between hero and magic is the camera..

He may have meant the magic 32b, which is not getting an update.

From what I know, Singapore's Magic is 32A... Oh well, hope he's referring to 32Bs...

Can anybody tell what version of sense is this?
http://www.noverca.it/shop-aggiorna-htc-magic-con-sense

This is what has been said: (coming straight from HTC, not from any official channels though, this has been posted on phandroid forums from a HTC rep. This agreement was started between HTC and Rogers)
By mid-year, HTC will issue an upgrade to Android 2.1, including the highly acclaimed HTC Sense experience for the HTC Magic.
However, due to certain limitations on the HTC Dream, the software path for the HTC Dream will be terminated after the next Android 1.5 update. While we regret not being able to offer the same updates to both devices, by bringing this upgrade to the HTC Magic, we are delivering the best solution possible given the situation at hand.
We also want to emphasize that the situation with HTC Dream and HTC Magic devices is true across markets, and is not limited to Canada. While “Google Experience” devices built on the same platform (like the T-Mobile G1) do have different upgrade paths – this is due to the use of a stock Android build, rather than a custom build used on the HTC Dream and HTC Magic.
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I wouldn't trust too much on facebook pages or HTC support channels.

dione1200 said:
Can anybody tell what version of sense is this?
http://www.noverca.it/shop-aggiorna-htc-magic-con-sense
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There's only one version of Sense for HTC Magic. Sense is just the framework, not the telephone firmware. As of now, officially, there's is only Android 1.5 with HTC Sense. The Android 2.1 release will include an updated version of the Sense user interface.
The picture looks like the theme is modified for the network supplier.

fregor said:
There's only one version of Sense for HTC Magic. Sense is just the framework, not the telephone firmware. As of now, officially, there's is only Android 1.5 with HTC Sense. The Android 2.1 release will include an updated version of the Sense user interface.
The picture looks like the theme is modified for the network supplier.
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Yes, that's what I meant. I wonder if it's 1.5 or 2.1

dione1200 said:
Yes, that's what I meant. I wonder if it's 1.5 or 2.1
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Then it's probably 1.5 since 2.1 isn't released yet.

android 2.x for htc tattoo, come or not???

HTC Tattoo To Be Upgraded to Android 2.1
12th March , 2010
HTC have confirmed that the HTC Tattoo will be upgraded to Android 2.1, which is the newest version of the Android operating system.
The current version running on the HTC Tattoo is version 1.6, which to be honest is really quite dated now so the update will be greatly appreciated.
The update to Android 2.1 will bring many benefits to the HTC Tattoo with the first being improved speed, reliability and efficiency across the whole platform. Additionally, you can have five home-screens on Android 2.1 , meaning you can have one for work, play, social networking and so on.
Android 2.1 also adds “Quick contact” functionality, which enables you to easily switch between address and social network contacts.
The HTC Tattoo has a 2.8 inch touch-screen, a 3.2 mega-pixel camera, FM radio and full 3G support. When we reviewed the HTC Tattoo here at 3G we concluded that “If you're hankering after an Android phone, this comes up with the goods for a (relatively) low price.”
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/March2010/HTC-Tattoo-To-Be-Upgraded-to-Android-2-l-3G.html

"Newest version"? LOL Haven't they heard of FroYo?

Would like to know from where this reporter dude got this information...

Someone on android forums has said they got a reply from HTC saying that the latest update was to prepare for a2.1 update. Don't know how much to read into that though...
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Sent from my HTC Tattoo

This is one of the 'brilliant' bits of journalism that sparked the Frandroid article.
Its all listed and discussed in the other much longer thread here on XDA.
In essence, it was a HTC customer support answer that was posted and discussed here and then ended up on Frandroid. All complete nonsense, as is that article above -- that piece above about Android 2.1 on the Tattoo shows a complete lack of knowledge about the Tattoo, they talk about 2.1 bringing five screens for f sake.
I would post all the links, but can't be bothered. The OP should have read the other three or four threads with the heading Android 2.1 that are right below this one.

laughingcavalier said:
Someone on android forums has said they got a reply from HTC saying that the latest update was to prepare for a2.1 update. Don't know how much to read into that though...
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The HTC Support person may be getting confused with the Hero update, they do that a lot ;-) as the announcements for the Hero did say it would be a minor ROM update at the begining of June followed by 2.1 later in June.
OR, us Tattoo owners could be in luck!
Somehow I don't think so though :-/

HTML:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/March2010/HTC-Tattoo-To-Be-Upgraded-to-Android-2-l-3G.html

nelenzi said:
HTML:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/March2010/HTC-Tattoo-To-Be-Upgraded-to-Android-2-l-3G.html
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Where is the sense in quoting the link??

Someone on android forums has said they got a reply from HTC saying that the latest update was to prepare for a2.1 update. Don't know how much to read
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The HTC Support person may be getting confused with the Hero update, they do that a lot ;-)
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Updated, this was the case...
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I don't who said him that but I hope that will true, even if we've got the 2.1 for when it will be release that is the question

HTC UK posted a ROM-upgrade. I hope the other country's get one as well:
Look at HTC.com and set your country: UK.
(I'm not allowed to post links in this post, because this is my first one)

look here read here
h--p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=692749
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i can't wait this 2.1!!!!