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I know Froyo was just recently announced, and the incredible has yet to be rooted, but assuming that it eventually does get rooted, is it unreasonable to assume there will be a way to get a stock 2.2 ROM onto a rooted incredible?
I just read over on engadget that "most" HTC devices will get Froyo by the end of the year, and being a sense-based device, I would assume it would be receiving a Sense-ified 2.2. Thanks for all the help.
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I know Froyo was just recently announced, and the incredible has yet to be rooted, but assuming that it eventually does get rooted, is it unreasonable to assume there will be a way to get a stock 2.2 ROM onto a rooted incredible?
I just read over on engadget that "most" HTC devices will get Froyo by the end of the year, and being a sense-based device, I would assume it would be receiving a Sense-ified 2.2. Thanks for all the help.
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Just a few threads down this is being discussed. It looks like Evo, Droid, Incredible will be getting it in June. This is not a huge leap like it was going from 1.6 to 2.1. It shouldn't take too long for this to be rolled to all.
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Just a few threads down this is being discussed. It looks like Evo, Droid, Incredible will be getting it in June. This is not a huge leap like it was going from 1.6 to 2.1. It shouldn't take too long for this to be rolled to all.
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Where'd you hear we're getting it in June?
Its the same URL you posted in a previous thread-
http://www.timesnewsline.com/news/F...Motorola-Droid--Nexus-One-In-June-1274383704/
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Its the same URL you posted in a previous thread-
http://www.timesnewsline.com/news/F...Motorola-Droid--Nexus-One-In-June-1274383704/
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The Droid Incredible and the Droid are two different phones by two different manufacturers.
For our phones there's no specific information, just that Droid Incredible and other flagship phones are a priority.
I would guess that if the EVO gets it, we are too, considering they're both CDMA, SenseUI, and are the flagship android phones for the carrier they're on. it wouldn't make sense not to.
Yes yes, as I pointed out in that thread. I was piggy backing off of your hope and optimism. My bad.
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Yes yes, as I pointed out in that thread. I was piggy backing off of your hope and optimism. My bad.
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I never implied we were getting it in June. All I ever said was that the N1 and Droid were getting it in June, because they're both stock Android.
The only way we're getting it in June is if we manage to root by then and can install a port.
Even if we don't, we'll be among the first SenseUI phones to get it. When exactly that is depends on a lot of things, how different the API for 2.2 is, how long it takes HTC to produce Sense for 2.2, how long carrier testing takes, whether there's an early leak, etc
Well I can tell you this much, jit and sense do not play nice together, so it may be awhile for HTC to get all the bugs worked out.
Its supposed to be way faster than even 2.1 so on our device it should be awesome. I just wish (though I doubt HTC will do it) they would give us the option to turn off Sense UI. Its nice but it really should be optional. That would make 2.2 complete for me without rooting. Otherwise this phone will never be complete for me until rooted.
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Well I can tell you this much, jit and sense do not play nice together, so it may be awhile for HTC to get all the bugs worked out.
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Sorry if this question has been asked in any of the other threads involving Froyo - but are there any specific reasons why SenseUI and JIT don't work well together? Is this based on experiences with custom ROMs for other devices using JIT and SenseUI or is this something that's a bit more officially recognized?
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Sorry if this question has been asked in any of the other threads involving Froyo - but are there any specific reasons why SenseUI and JIT don't work well together? Is this based on experiences with custom ROMs for other devices using JIT and SenseUI or is this something that's a bit more officially recognized?
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This is based off of others using a incomplete version of JIT from eclair and attempting to use it on eclair.
as soon as my incredible has root with custom recovery i will be releasing a 2.2 custom froyo rom based on stock 2.2 as well as porting any 2.2 sense leaks that are released. all we need is root
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I never implied we were getting it in June. All I ever said was that the N1 and Droid were getting it in June, because they're both stock Android.
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n1 already has froyo
Edit: Nm, maybe I'm wrong?
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n1 already has froyo
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Like ONE person on the interweb claims he's gotten an OTA update...
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Like ONE person on the interweb claims he's gotten an OTA update...
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And that person has alot of credibility.
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Like ONE person on the interweb claims he's gotten an OTA update...
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A lot of us actually.
For those of you interested in what HTC has to say about phones getting 2.2.
Prodded on the subject by Pocket-lint, the company has replied that it's starting out with the Desire and Incredible and working through other "hotly anticipated new phones,"
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/htc-most-phones-launched-in-2010-will-get-android-2-2/
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For those of you interested in what HTC has to say about phones getting 2.2...
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Good to know =). Now all I have to do is wait for Asia to build my phone and send it to me... not sure which will take longer at this point o.x
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/06/mytouch3g-users-youre-wish-is-about-to-come-true/
Ran into this article and it made my day. I really hope this is true, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed. It looks legit though.
Edit: could this be the "something big" that tmobile said was happening on the 19th?
I've heard somewhere that anything released 2009 and after will have a 2.2 update given to it.
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I've heard somewhere that anything released 2009 and after will have a 2.2 update given to it.
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HTC said that *most* of the phones launched in 2010 would get the upgrade. Until now, no other 1st generation phone has had any sort of confirmation for fryo (besides the ION).
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(besides the ION).
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... which would be enough since its a 32B and therefore compatible with DREAM. In fact, it would be BETTER than a tmobile OTA since it won't be polluted with the tmobile junk and will come with root.
Watch here for updates for this device: http://developer.htc.com/google-io-device.html
Great news that Android 2.2 will be added onto the MyTouch.
With that hopefully Cyanogen can get his hands on it as well and get it going for our G1s as well
He is already out with it. It is still under test and lot of things are broken in it, but if you wanna try Froyo just for the heck of it, you can on G1 and Mytouch
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Great news that Android 2.2 will be added onto the MyTouch.
With that hopefully Cyanogen can get his hands on it as well and get it going for our G1s as well
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Actually, what this will mean is that we will be able to get a STABLE 2.2. The state of "cyanogen stable" is actually extremely unstable.
It would be nice to have an OEM 2.2 build just with a few extras... you know, the things that you actually use rather than just jamming in all the bling you can imagine.
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He is already out with it. It is still under test and lot of things are broken in it, but if you wanna try Froyo just for the heck of it, you can on G1 and Mytouch
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You seem to be confused.
There are 2.2 "ports", based on the EMULATOR IMAGE that comes with the SDK. They don't work in even a marginally usable fashion though -- they're not even worth wasting 10 seconds on.
i downgraded from cyan 6 and unrooted ... asa root was undone i got the first half of 2 files for an OTA. Ditched the phone today in favor of a keyboard (seeing as their essentially the same) before i got the rest of it. It IS coming boys!!!
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Actually, what this will mean is that we will be able to get a STABLE 2.2. The state of "cyanogen stable" is actually extremely unstable.
It would be nice to have an OEM 2.2 build just with a few extras... you know, the things that you actually use rather than just jamming in all the bling you can imagine.
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Absolutely agree. Thats precisely what i'm waiting on. It would be really nice to see other builds come out based on oem. We will see what happens soon. Enomther is waiting to start working on just that i believe. Cant wait to see what he come up with.
The Rom in my signature is based on the OTA for MyTouch/Sapphire and it is amazing.
Reminds me of my other daily driver Super D.... yes it is that good.
Full Wipe and Flash and experience it for yourself.
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Absolutely agree. Thats precisely what i'm waiting on. It would be really nice to see other builds come out based on oem. We will see what happens soon. Enomther is waiting to start working on just that i believe. Cant wait to see what he come up with.
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Enom is one of the first Roms I flashed, he is also up there for reliability.
Will see what he releases as well.
Hopefully he will have an apps2ext built into his Rom.
Honestly the black theme and the above mentioned is the only thing that is missing from the Official AOSP 2.2 OTA
There is a workaround using Titanium Backup however but would want a more streamlined approach to accomplish this.
"Google" The EVO Update As I'm Not Allowed to post links.. BOO.
The EVO gets 2.2 presumably with the SenseUI on August 3rd.. When this is released is there any chance that we will see this flavor of custom rom for our Hero devices?! Hopefully Darch and the other XDA experts wont let us go without.. We can ONLY HOPE!! Hint, Hint, Nudge, Nudge.. Surprised there isn't a leak already.. Or is there!?
There is, i am running full 2.2 100% working on my Evo, and HTC also posted the update.zip on their website, but Devs from the Evo have had sense working for awhile now, but it still hasn't been ported over because of the huge differences in frameworks
I really wish I knew what people liked about SenseUI. It just seems so bulky and slow to me.
darchstar told me many times tonight there will be no 2.2 sense port for the hero. (from the evo) the arch is different
Nfinitefx45 will be working on porting 2.2 sense here soon
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Thanks for the info!
I flipped through the EVO dev forum (reluctantly) and saw that they are already up and running on the latest froyo build which is awesome! I'm glad to see that all hope is not lost and that there will be some development for 2.2 with sense. To answer Zardos66 I personally like the facebook contact linking and the look of the UI. It has nothing to do with performance and everything to do with functionality and usefulness. The SenseUI is a bit clunky but I haven't found a happy medium with any of the roms that don't have the SenseUI. Just something I'd like to see and If it can be done I trust that the XDA Pros will knock it out of the park.. I'm very excited to see what can be made of this!! XDA FTW!
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I really wish I knew what people liked about SenseUI. It just seems so bulky and slow to me.
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I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.
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I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.
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Even with OC, Sense still lags. It's is easy to mimic with less ram taken up.
Launcher pro
2x4 people widget - free
Messaging Widgets - free
Weather and toggle widgets - $1.99
feels good man.
Supposedly we can't port the EVO 2.2 release over to the Hero because the EVO build is designed for a much faster processor. Our Hero couldn't handle such a port without A LOT of tweaking....in other words, almost impossible.
Whenever the HTC Legend gets their 2.2 release, that is probably the build that the devs here will try to port over for us. A couple people have already committed to doing this.
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I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.
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Darch released RC0 a few builds ago, i am currently running Not my dog too build and all is pretty well. Camera app is still pretty much useless but Camera Magic is a quick fix. The gallery is pretty messed up with auto rotate and such, but aside from pictures it is a MAJOR improvement over eclair. My Hero runs like a champ!
does it change anything that the desire got a sense 2.2 today also?
http://goo.gl/fb/Z0kfj
I'm not familiar with the desire to know if it would work... hopefully it's closer to ours.
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does it change anything that the desire got a sense 2.2 today also?
http://goo.gl/fb/Z0kfj
I'm not familiar with the desire to know if it would work... hopefully it's closer to ours.
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no still built on the snap dragon processor and is HDPI (high res) this is why we are waitng on the legend , it is the cousin to the hero in terms of processor and the fact that it is our exact resolution MDPI (medium). the legend is supposed to be on froyo within the next two months.
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the legend is supposed to be on froyo within the next two months.
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If it is gonna be anything like eclair release, I'm not holding my breath till around christmas, which is when the next major version of Android is supposed to be released. I bet by that time Sprint drops all support for their 6 month old Evo like they did with out Heroes, too!
Sigh I want froyo with sense.
(Sprint: "What's the evo? Oh that ole thing )
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Sigh I want froyo with sense.
(Sprint: "What's the evo? Oh that ole thing )
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the bottom line is the hero should of got the 2.2 update. sprint isn't doing a good job of supporting their phones at all. i owned the evo for a week and while i liked the speed & size the pitfall was the battery life. none of the tweaks worked and you had to disable every feature of the phone.
The nexus one looks so good. Still. So much support for it. Being googles baby it will probably get gingerbread. Just saying almost a year old and still one of the best phones. ("Did I get ripped off?" I sometimes wonder)
i just heard droid users are getting froyo today. this is a bunch of bull**** and im pissed at htc. i should of kept my evo. talk about dropping the ball with the hero!
There will be no port from the Ego since there's wayy to much things to change its almost impossible, but our hope of 2.2 is from the legend!
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There will be no port from the Ego since there's wayy to much things to change its almost impossible, but our hope of 2.2 is from the legend!
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i hope so because im not digging the aosp stuff. id like a sense port so i can get the htc goodies.
guesses? rumors? news? anyone? lots of hype about this. but it kinda seems like vibrant is gonna get left in the dust seeing as how we are still on 2.1. from what i have been reading, 2.3 (gingerbread) will be out within a week! so us vibrant users will be 2 versions behind! (wtf tmo and samsung?) my thoughts are maybe they didnt update us cuz they where just waiting for 2.3 to come out and wanted to get all the updating done at once. but i do kinda live in a fantasy world (drugs are bad mmmkay) so what are the thought from the fine folks here at xda on this matter?
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guesses? rumors? news? anyone? lots of hype about this. but it kinda seems like vibrant is gonna get left in the dust seeing as how we are still on 2.1. from what i have been reading, 2.3 (gingerbread) will be out within a week! so us vibrant users will be 2 versions behind! (wtf tmo and samsung?) my thoughts are maybe they didnt update us cuz they where just waiting for 2.3 to come out and wanted to get all the updating done at once. but i do kinda live in a fantasy world (drugs are bad mmmkay) so what are the thought from the fine folks here at xda on this matter?
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Lol JK2 was leaked. We will have an official froyo soon seing as that. And we will be able to port 2.3, don't worry
not sure what jk2 is. i am still kinda a noob. but that would be nice to get an official 2.2 update. i kinda want flash so i can watch southpark. haha
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not sure what jk2 is. i am still kinda a noob. but that would be nice to get an official 2.2 update. i kinda want flash so i can watch southpark. haha
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Jk2 is a build number of the most recent (and most important since its specifically for vibrants) froyo. Before this all the froyo roms out has been built off of other variations on diff models/carrier.
The fact that jk2 was leaked means the official ota for all tmobile customers is real and immenent.
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huh. well nice! still, im hearing rumors that they aren't gonna make an official 2.3 for the vibrant. which i dont know if i mind or not. but i still wanted to see what everyons opinion on that is?
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huh. well nice! still, im hearing rumors that they aren't gonna make an official 2.3 for the vibrant. which i dont know if i mind or not. but i still wanted to see what everyons opinion on that is?
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It doesn't matter if they do or not. Like I said above, "We can port it"
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huh. well nice! still, im hearing rumors that they aren't gonna make an official 2.3 for the vibrant. which i dont know if i mind or not. but i still wanted to see what everyons opinion on that is?
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I doubt we'll ever see an official 2.3. Samsung will probably release 2.2 somewhere between 2-4 months behind the competition. That doesn't give me great hope that we'll ever seen 2.3. Figure that it took HTC/Motorola 2-3 months to turn 2.2 final into 2.2 custom versions to OTA, then we are looking at 4-7 months from now for 2.3 if all of the same timeframes hold. That's probably past the window that this phone will receive official updates.
well seems like the ported versions of the firmware updates have problems, like the headphone jack not working. or gps lagging ect. (not to say the developers didnt do a good job{ cuz they did an awesome job}) but i use that stuff lots. i agree with lex tho. i think that we will probly stop geting updates after awhile so that the newer more awesome phones can get bought up.
Akaskriller say he has an official 2.2 froyo ready for those who donates to his site.. I saw the vid it looks good
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Tough call. I would say 1 year till official release...
mmmm im thinkin honeycomb (3.0) will be out within a year. prob not for our phones tho. we will have to upgrade to the we will have to upgrade to the galaxy t hahaha
2.3 won't be that different
2.3 won't be that different It will change the resolution mainly to allow a bigger screen Right now 2.2 really can only function on a 7 inch screen without some mods so 2.3 will have that integrated. 3.0 will have real differences, but Vibrant has become the developers phone of choice so, you will see that on the phone as soon as it gets out.
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2.3 won't be that different It will change the resolution mainly to allow a bigger screen Right now 2.2 really can only function on a 7 inch screen without some mods so 2.3 will have that integrated. 3.0 will have real differences, but Vibrant has become the developers phone of choice so, you will see that on the phone as soon as it gets out.
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ROFL.
No, not really.
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Akaskriller say he has an official 2.2 froyo ready for those who donates to his site.. I saw the vid it looks good
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it is no more official than any of the others that are out.
I doubt it will take that long. Look, the Galaxy S took a while because these are the first phones using the Hummingbird CPU. People say HTC and Motorola are more on the ball, but they're using the same Snapdragon and OMAP cores since the beginning. Heck, Froyo was originally built for the Snapdragon--no wonder Froyo is easy to port to those phones.
Now they've got Froyo on the Hummingbird, I would think future releases will be easier to port based on the accumulated experience.
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I doubt we'll ever see an official 2.3. Samsung will probably release 2.2 somewhere between 2-4 months behind the competition. That doesn't give me great hope that we'll ever seen 2.3. Figure that it took HTC/Motorola 2-3 months to turn 2.2 final into 2.2 custom versions to OTA, then we are looking at 4-7 months from now for 2.3 if all of the same timeframes hold. That's probably past the window that this phone will receive official updates.
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Froyo was out in January, wasn't it...?
That's more than 2-4 months ago.
I don't ever expect to see 2.3 from Sammy. We'll honestly be lucky if we ever see an official & working 2.2.
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Froyo was out in January, wasn't it...?
That's more than 2-4 months ago.
I don't ever expect to see 2.3 from Sammy. We'll honestly be lucky if we ever see an official & working 2.2.
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You don't visited the developer section much or what?
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Froyo was out in January, wasn't it...?
That's more than 2-4 months ago.
I don't ever expect to see 2.3 from Sammy. We'll honestly be lucky if we ever see an official & working 2.2.
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No. Froyo was pushed to the nexus one in late june.
HTC/Motorola pushed it 2-3 months after that and samsung will wind up another 2-4 months after that, depending on when they finally push it.
2.3 will be pushed any day now to the nexus one, so you can do the math from there if you assume the same timeline. My guess its that pushes 2.3 out of the window for the upgrade.
Guys.. Froyo should be out before Christmas. Team Whiskey and Eugene already got it. And tmobile is sending OTA to people with JI6 to downgrade back to JFD. They're preparing peoples phones.
Okay, we have froyo, now we are set... OH WAIT GINGERBREAD IS COMING OUT I AM NEVER HAPPY OTHER PHONES WILL HAVE IT BEFORE ME CRY CRY CRY CRY.
Seriously, I can assure you gingerbread is not going to come out this year.
And the N1 is the dev phone so of course it's going to be first to snatch up the latests firmware.
Heck, samsung or tmobile DIDNT PROMISE YOU ANY UPDATES. You bought the phone and that is it. They have your money, what are you going to do know? Didn't you check on the behold? I think they are stuck on 1.6 same as the Cliq. BE HPPY you got froyo.
I don't care what anyone else says, I happy with my froyo.
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Heck, samsung or tmobile DIDNT PROMISE YOU ANY UPDATES.
I don't care what anyone else says, I happy with my froyo.
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actually when i bought the phone i got ****in played man. haha the people at the t-mo store told me i would get all the updates as soon as they came out, and that i would get 4 g on my vibrant. thats when i didnt know much about the phone, or phones at all. but now that im doing my research, im finding out that none of that stuff is true! im liking t-mo. but dont like how they lied to me to buy the vibrant. i was even looking right at the g2. like 'what about this one?' 'na man! you want the vibrant' i love my vibrant. but i also am gonna want 4g and firmware updates in the future.
Froyo source is out. The last ROM to leak out was KB1, and that was almost 3 weeks ago....and it came out not long after the official Froyo KA6. Forgive me for starting this discussion (or argument, depending on how this develops), but I'm thinking that the lack of any recent ROMs in conjunction with the release of KA6 Froyo source and absolute silence by Samsung on Gingerbread for Galaxy S pretty much means there is no way official Gingerbread is coming to Vibrant. I'm just saying. Not knocking Samsung (for this, anyway, no need to rehash everything Samsung SHOULD be knocked for), because they never promised Gingerbread. I'm guessing no more official Vibrant firmware development whatsoever is taking place.
I think (and this is just my opinion) we shouldn't get too ahead of ourselves worrying about gingerbread. Especially when we have some epic ROMs to look forward to now that the froyo source is out.
I am waiting for the CM7 or teamwhiskey to port 2.3 to vibrant
If that's true, then wouldn't that mean that vibrant 4G would also not get gingerbread? Not 1 update.... at all?
Keep it in your pants buddy.
The reason there haven't been any leaks is because Samsung changed the ports on their FUS server. Haven't figured out which one it is yet.
does gingerbread even offer anything worth a damn?
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does gingerbread even offer anything worth a damn?
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The reason there haven't been any leaks is because Samsung changed the ports on their FUS server. Haven't figured out which one it is yet.
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Does FUS stand for F*ck U server? Lol
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Gingerbread is optimized for the Hummingbird while Froyo is optimized for the Snapdragon. It should give better performance. I finally had a chance to play with a NS for an extended time the other day and it is lightning fast bone stock. There are also some new api's that no one has begun to utilize...yet. It's like Eclair was - nothing special except for the processor boost. Icecream or whatever you want to call the next release is probably going to be a major upgrade with hardware acceleration and a ui overhaul.
Hey pig vomit do you play at laserquest
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All I care about is the sms bug fix which we will get once we get the froyo 2.2.2 update or even the gingerbread 2.3.2 or whatever...
Whatever, 2.2 is good
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Hey pig vomit do you play at laserquest
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Did this make anyone else lol?
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probably going to be a major upgrade with hardware acceleration and a ui overhaul.
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Can't wait for this, i will squirt over any video showing off ice cream sandwich.
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Did this make anyone else lol?
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Well, me, actually. I sorta deserved it.