i just started using android 2.2 on my HTC HD2 and wondering if i should download a task manager...anyone have any ideas? please let me know what you use.
There is an argument over whether task killers are necessary/useful in 2.2. I believe those who are for them recommend autokiller memory optimizer.
polo735 said:
There is an argument over whether task killers are necessary/useful in 2.2. I believe those who are for them recommend autokiller memory optimizer.
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well if they are against the task managers...how do they close unused programs to save battery life? thanks polo
check this out - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755504
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Is a task killer needed on froyo or can it manage without one?
If you dont use one, does the list of running apps get larger and larger?
i heard task killers arent good but eh, i keep one just in case
I haven't used one on Froyo and it runs fine.
325i. said:
Is a task killer needed on froyo or can it manage without one?
If you dont use one, does the list of running apps get larger and larger?
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Android can handle the tasks better then you..dont use the task killers they are bad for the long run..
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
Specifically Froyo is more aggressive than Eclair. The tasks are killed by the system more often than I'd want to.
if i don't use a task killer my browser will eat up all my internal memory and will stop my phone from getting text messages..
asdfasd2 said:
if i don't use a task killer my browser will eat up all my internal memory and will stop my phone from getting text messages..
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Clear browser cache - better and simpler than using task killer, no?
uberamd said:
I haven't used one on Froyo and it runs fine.
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Same here! Used a Taskkiller nearly every day on Android 2.1
I still have a light one installed but I actually never kill any app.
I sometimes close some services with Applications / running services thing.
Apps like PingChat! for example.. apps I don't use regulary
Jack_R1 said:
Clear browser cache - better and simpler than using task killer, no?
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Do you know where I can get widget for that?
The built in running tab in 2.2 is better than any task killer i know. Its under manage applications. you shuold see four tabs "Downloaded\Running\All\On Sd card". Why the need for a third party task killer?
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Do you know where I can get widget for that?
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1:0 to you If you need to use it THAT much - perhaps you're better off using task killer for that. Did you try setting up old-school Apps2SD to free some internal memory?
I don't use any task killers. But I do use system panel which is the best out there by far.
The browser gets large over time, but if you just go in and close all your windows, the browser releases all the space.
if task killers are not needed then why when I open the task killer there is always a whole page of tasks running?
Gallery69 said:
if task killers are not needed then why when I open the task killer there is always a whole page of tasks running?
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Because those processes barely use your system resource, so there's no need to close them in case you might want to use them any time again.
Gallery69 said:
if task killers are not needed then why when I open the task killer there is always a whole page of tasks running?
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Old winmobo habit is kinda hard to get rid off isn't it? =)
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if task killers are not needed then why when I open the task killer there is always a whole page of tasks running?
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They aren't really running. Most of them don't have any system usage when they're idle. They're just "running" (not really) to start things faster.
When you kill them most stuff will start slower and this is using more battery
I've found that task killers generally hurt more than they help, draining batteries faster for little benefit.
Furthermore, in the rare situation where there really is a rogue app eating up RAM, you can kill it using the built in Running Applications tab under Settings.
Gallery69 said:
if task killers are not needed then why when I open the task killer there is always a whole page of tasks running?
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Because that's how android functions, it purposely loads those things, and they are static, frozen in the background not using any resources. By fighting the OS to keep killing those, you waste battery cause the OS will just keep opening them and the task killer will keep closing them, over and over, killing your battery.
You guys can test this yourself using the app system panel. Enable monitoring and see what's using your CPU, you will see exactly what is using resources and why it has no effect on your battery.
Gallery69 said:
if task killers are not needed then why when I open the task killer there is always a whole page of tasks running?
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This is why:
http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
Does anyone recommend this? I used it all the time on my myTouch and it worked wonders...but wondering if I should use it on my vibrant? Before you comment, please make sure you know what I'm talking about. This is not a regular task killer that you just click and kill. It's basically an internal task killer. If you do use it, what presets do you recommend?
This is the application I am talking about http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller
Shouldn't need it.
I've used it, but I prefer MinFreeManager. My settings on MFM are :16, 32, 56, 84,96, and 102.
auto killer and min free are and does the same thing .. both came out about the same time .. The autokiller dev site has a lot of info on android and memory management... Please read and be informed .. great programs .. makes you see just how wrong the idea of task/app killers is ..
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auto killer and min free are and does the same thing .. both came out about the same time .. The autokiller dev site has a lot of info on android and memory management... Please read and be informed .. great programs .. makes you see just how wrong the idea of task/app killers is ..
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Link:
http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller/details
Bottom line is, AutoKiller simply tweaks the built-in process management already in Android, which is itself a more fine-grained implementation of how Linux deals with low-memory situations.
Does the vibrant need a task killer? was considering getting Advanced Task Killer, but I've heard that the vibrant lags with it more than without
don't use those applications. The one built in our phone works well.
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Does the vibrant need a task killer? was considering getting Advanced Task Killer, but I've heard that the vibrant lags with it more than without
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Any recent Android phone doesn't need a task killer.
Task killers are pretty much worth a bucket of rocks
Task killer
yea task killers=battery drainers
Task killers are nice to catch runaway processes, or to kill processes that you cannot otherwise (other than the kill command that is.) I agree with everyone else here, though. Don't use a task killer just to kill off processes that you might think that you are not using.
I use "Advanced Task Killer Free," but I don't use it very often.
Why do I not just use the built in task killer? It doesn't see all of the running processes.
You can use Task manager or system panel or some of the others like that. They do not use really any resources but are a convenient way to close programs in one spot.
Solo Task killers apps aren't really needed with the newer roms
I've read some posts and people said they are killing more battery.Other people said that they're good.So are they safe for your phone,or they can harm it.
I've used task killers since I got my phone and hadn't got a problem.
I found the answer by myself:
http://lifehacker.com/#!5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
I tested ATK with 2.1 2.2.1 2.3.2 using my phone (Gps, 3g - ON) with same apk on board each ROM and modarate killing and my battery last longer without ATK.
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I tested ATK with 2.1 2.2.1 2.3.2 using my phone (Gps, 3g - ON) with same apk on board each ROM and modarate killing and my battery last longer without ATK.
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I got rid of my task killer.I will provide some feedback after some use.Thanks for the reply by the way.
its good n safe if u use it wisely
i ever killed a running system n my phone become frozen
I've been using AutoKiller Memory Optimiser which utilises presets and works well with rooted phones.
i think not
Task killers aren't necessary for Android 2.1 and above. Google has optimized the system so that if you run out of memory, it will start automatically killing unused apps in the background. Even though you might see that only around 20MB of RAM is available doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It means that you can load up your recently used apps more quickly as it is already "cached" in your memory.
Killing apps may also disrupt other system processes that require it to run properly. However, if you want to save that extra battery then a task killer is good to use. Otherwise, task killers are not necessary. I would recommended downloading an app called "Watchdog" in the market. What this app does is monitors your running apps for any memory hoggers. This allows you to kill that app or uninstall it.
This is just my thoughts and may not be entirely correct. Anyone wishing to correct me is welcome to.
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MegaBubbletea said:
Task killers aren't necessary for Android 2.1 and above. Google has optimized the system so that if you run out of memory, it will start automatically killing unused apps in the background. Even though you might see that only around 20MB of RAM is available doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It means that you can load up your recently used apps more quickly as it is already "cached" in your memory.
Killing apps may also disrupt other system processes that require it to run properly. However, if you want to save that extra battery then a task killer is good to use. Otherwise, task killers are not necessary. I would recommended downloading an app called "Watchdog" in the market. What this app does is monitors your running apps for any memory hoggers. This allows you to kill that app or uninstall it.
This is just my thoughts and may not be entirely correct. Anyone wishing to correct me is welcome to.
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Thanks for your reply.I also think that they aren't necessary.In the link above I read that task killers are dangerous for your phone.They are slowly killing your CPU and after some time the phone may start to crash.
Well i'm using a taskkiller and it doesn't do any harm.. And I think it makes my battery last longer.. But that might just be some kind of "placebo effect"
I personally don't use them on my phone, but on my tablet, I use them as it can get very slow without it.
Haque92 said:
Well i'm using a taskkiller and it doesn't do any harm.. And I think it makes my battery last longer.. But that might just be some kind of "placebo effect"
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I also thought that they were great,but after doing some research I decided to remove my task killer.My phone is working as smooth as before.But that's just me.
Anyone know which advance task killer is better?
Advanced Task Killer Pro by reChild or Advanced Task Manager Pro by Infolife.
Thanks.
akoni1p said:
Anyone know which advance task killer is better?
Advanced Task Killer Pro by reChild or Advanced Task Manager Pro by Infolife.
Thanks.
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I'm sure either will drain your battery like a mofo. I wouldn't recommend running a task killer at all.
This is one of the most persisting myths about android that you need a task killer. Maybe it was useful with 1.5 or 1.6 but with 2.2 and higher it is waste.
The best on it the one that you don't use. But if for some reason you feel compelled to kill a task, use the one built into android: Menu > Manage Apps.
I would recommend reading the thread 'android memory management' before using any task killer. Link to it is in my signature.
diablo009 said:
I would recommend reading the thread 'android memory management' before using any task killer. Link to it is in my signature.
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What I still don't understand is why Motorola integrated a task killer in Blur. I get now always this annoying popups that google voice uses battery etc even though I have not one application in the auto kill folder.
mgymnop said:
What I still don't understand is why Motorola integrated a task killer in Blur. I get now always this annoying popups that google voice uses battery etc even though I have not one application in the auto kill folder.
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Exactly! That's the point. If an application uses too much battery when phone is in sleep it pops this up. Esp useful when u r sleeping. Add the app to auto-kill list, and if it realizes it as a memory hog, it will auto-kill it.
I was logged in into gvoice the other day and there was a heavy messages transfer in n out, and that is when the popped up the message. I added it to auto-kill list, and started to save a ton of battery. When I wake up in the morning, I see it starting to work again. I am not sure how this killing/starting takes place, but its saving me a ton of battery esp at nights.
Edit: U can always freeze this in TiBu.
I'm no expert in android but I sell cellphones. When people have problems on android they like to come in and complain. I find a task killer on most of the buggy phones. The customer usually admits that they kill tasks several times per day. It's not exactly scientific, but I'd say there is a correlation between task killing and buggy phones.
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