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How many of you use a task killer?

I have seen people saying you need one and others saying you dont. Even Android devs posted a blog a few weeks ago saying you really dont need one. I installed ATK and it showed things running that made no sense to me and way more then what my running processes showed under my settings, how is that possible?

task killer vs no task killer... its like automatic vs. manual transmission. many new cars have automatic, but than does not mean that its better than manual (tho sometimes it IS, but rarely).
i do use task killer, but only when needed. sometimes i like to kill my browser to clear out the history and open windows, and once in a while i get an app that's simply not behaving.

frifox said:
task killer vs no task killer... its like automatic vs. manual transmission. many new cars have automatic, but than does not mean that its better than manual (tho sometimes it IS, but rarely).
i do use task killer, but only when needed. sometimes i like to kill my browser to clear out the history and open windows, and once in a while i get an app that's simply not behaving.
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This man speaketh the truth. There's no way to end some apps in Android, but to use a task killer. Browser/Internet is one of them.
The more I deal with Android, the more I realize how unpolished its code is. For example, to decades old WinMo.

acrh2 said:
This man speaketh the truth. There's no way to end some apps in Android, but to use a task killer. Browser/Internet is one of them.
The more I deal with Android, the more I realize how unpolished its code is. For example, to decades old WinMo.
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Windows has a built in memory manager. I use autokiller to manage the memory manager.
Check out Flipz's FAQ behind why you should not use a task killer.
Also check out Flipz's FAQ about how Autokiller works.

danknee said:
Windows has a built in memory manager. I use autokiller to manage the memory manager.
Check out Flipz's FAQ behind why you should not use a task killer.
Also check out Flipz's FAQ about how Autokiller works.
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Thanks, I checked those (or like those) out many months ago, when I was playing with N1.

I have the option for one (SystemPanel), but it has no auto features and I never use it. I use it more for monitoring my device and battery usage.

Advanced users are going to use them. Performance starts to suffer in the system when memory drops to around 100 and gets really noticeable sub 50.
Generally I have 200+ free because I'm on froyo so its not as necessary but on stock the htc **** is just insane. Damage rom does a great job of taking stock and making it useable.

I always used one until FroYo, now I have generally around 260mb free. It's perfect

I was using one (Advanced Task Killer) and finding it frustrating as it would show apps open that I had never used. I would kill them when I found them and then I set it to autokill when the screen turned off. Didn't work, they would still be there when I turned it on. I finally just said the hell with it and uninstalled it. Since then I've noticed that the phone seems to run a lot better with less lag. I like it much better since I dumped the task manager.

I don't use one and normally I uninstall the default browser (it annoys me i cant exit it) and install Dolphin HD as my default.

I used a task manager when I first got this phone, did more research as I tweaked the phone and read about why not to use a task manager. So far its been a week without a task manager and I'm noticing better battery life, and while I don't notice an improvement in performance of any kind, I also don't notice a drop in performance.
I think I will be sticking with no task manager for the time being. Its also really nice not having to worry about what's running or not, and having to run the task manager to exit applications or what not. Its also one less program I have to worry about.

Best Task Manager for Galaxy S (Sorry if this has been posted before)

Hi guys,
Sorry if this has been posted before, i searched for it, and couldnt find a decent reply to what I was looking for. I also googled it, and it only came up with results that were either outdated, or not very helpful.
Can you guys here tell me what kind of task manager you're using? And whats good/not good about it?
I am currently using TaskPanel. I've tried advanced task killer, and android system info (something along those lines) and found TaskPanel to be the best and simplest to use so far.
Thanks!

You don't really need a task manager app.
Read this http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
The key part is: "applications may seem present to the user without an actual process currently running the app; multiple applications may share processes, or one application may make use of multiple processes depending on its needs; the process(es) of an application may be kept around by Android even when that application is not actively doing"
This means that the taskmanagers can't properly manage the running apps. Also, android has a built in task manager, which should keep the running apps in check, and close any if more memory is needed

qakgob said:
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This means that the taskmanagers can't properly manage the running apps. Also, android has a built in task manager, which should keep the running apps in check, and close any if more memory is needed
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Thats correct, but some oif the Apps are not good implemented and the Android build in Task Manger isn't able to control them complete. So there is a smal need for a Taskmanager in Android also, yust use it carefully and do not use any AutoKill features or Apps.
Regards
Christopher

I use minfree manager or autokiller to adjust the minfree mem setting on android. Works like a charm on my galaxy with agressive "82, 90, 98" setting.
Its not a traditional task killer, but instead tweaks the OS to free up ram alot sooner than usual. I didnt have any good results with normal task killer apps in the past.
Also with this setting, I find in unnesassary to apply PO's lag fix from modaco, phone runs great as it is. (JF3 firmware)
I should mention that you require root to adjust minfree settings.

best solution... Reboot the S boots in like 30 secs anyways..

bushrat said:
I use minfree manager or autokiller to adjust the minfree mem setting on android. Works like a charm on my galaxy with agressive "82, 90, 98" setting.
Its not a traditional task killer, but instead tweaks the OS to free up ram alot sooner than usual. I didnt have any good results with normal task killer apps in the past.
Also with this setting, I find in unnesassary to apply PO's lag fix from modaco, phone runs great as it is. (JF3 firmware)
I should mention that you require root to adjust minfree settings.
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sounds good! I will give it a try someday, but i'll need to root my device.
I know this is off-topic, but is rooting risky?? I come from a Samsung i900 omnia, and flashing that device could mean instant brick, rendering the device completely useless, i don't want that happening to my GS.
cheers!

When i had the Desire i didnt require any killer apps. But with the Galaxy S n the lag/blackout issues i needed to install task killers coz it was getting really really slow. I now have Auto Memory Manager installed which does a decent job.
Come on Samsung, show the world that u do care about your customers. The world is watching....

Autokiller is very good!
bushrat said:
I use minfree manager or autokiller to adjust the minfree mem setting on android. Works like a charm on my galaxy with agressive "82, 90, 98" setting.
Its not a traditional task killer, but instead tweaks the OS to free up ram alot sooner than usual. I didnt have any good results with normal task killer apps in the past.
Also with this setting, I find in unnesassary to apply PO's lag fix from modaco, phone runs great as it is. (JF3 firmware)
I should mention that you require root to adjust minfree settings.
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Autokiller is very very good! I used to use the advanced task killer and set to auto-kill in crazy mode everytime screen is off. But even then, memory drops very fast to 30+ mb in less than 1 day of usage, with no other processes running. Yesterday I switched to autokiller and memory from morning till now never drops below 110mb! Phone feels and behaves alot snappier!

autokiller
bushrat said:
I use minfree manager or autokiller to adjust the minfree mem setting on android. Works like a charm on my galaxy with agressive "82, 90, 98" setting.
Its not a traditional task killer, but instead tweaks the OS to free up ram alot sooner than usual. I didnt have any good results with normal task killer apps in the past.
Also with this setting, I find in unnesassary to apply PO's lag fix from modaco, phone runs great as it is. (JF3 firmware)
I should mention that you require root to adjust minfree settings.
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+1
first tried different task managers, but it doesn't work as good as the internal one

***AutoKiller memory optimizer***

This is a well ranked application on free android market!
It's so nice; it uses android way to kill applications not task killers!
Those are 2 threads on it:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666
and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645539
Did someone tried it on any android build?!
Coz i tried it on my phone with the "Ultimate" preset (which must kill applications when RAM goes less than 250MB but i'm not seeing any change!?!
Thx

What this application does is tweak froyo's ability to kill task when needed. If it see's no reason to kill the task it wont.
Further more seeting autokiller to aggressive will cause it to kill forground apps such as the clock or the market.
These things have no bearing on the performances of android and should be left alone.

what settings are you guys using now for this app
im currently on AGRESSIVE and seeing little difference, LOL

I run it on Optimum. Which isn't that far off the default values for Desire HD.

I was running it with fairly good results on my Evo with FreshEVO. Now I am running MIUI and for some reason it always resets to straight zeros. Does anyone have an idea if this is a fixable issue?

[Q] Are task killers safe for your phone?

I've read some posts and people said they are killing more battery.Other people said that they're good.So are they safe for your phone,or they can harm it.
I've used task killers since I got my phone and hadn't got a problem.

I found the answer by myself:
http://lifehacker.com/#!5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them

I tested ATK with 2.1 2.2.1 2.3.2 using my phone (Gps, 3g - ON) with same apk on board each ROM and modarate killing and my battery last longer without ATK.
Peace
Sent from my GT540 using XDA App

panoramixus said:
I tested ATK with 2.1 2.2.1 2.3.2 using my phone (Gps, 3g - ON) with same apk on board each ROM and modarate killing and my battery last longer without ATK.
Peace
Sent from my GT540 using XDA App
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I got rid of my task killer.I will provide some feedback after some use.Thanks for the reply by the way.

its good n safe if u use it wisely
i ever killed a running system n my phone become frozen

I've been using AutoKiller Memory Optimiser which utilises presets and works well with rooted phones.

i think not

Task killers aren't necessary for Android 2.1 and above. Google has optimized the system so that if you run out of memory, it will start automatically killing unused apps in the background. Even though you might see that only around 20MB of RAM is available doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It means that you can load up your recently used apps more quickly as it is already "cached" in your memory.
Killing apps may also disrupt other system processes that require it to run properly. However, if you want to save that extra battery then a task killer is good to use. Otherwise, task killers are not necessary. I would recommended downloading an app called "Watchdog" in the market. What this app does is monitors your running apps for any memory hoggers. This allows you to kill that app or uninstall it.
This is just my thoughts and may not be entirely correct. Anyone wishing to correct me is welcome to.

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MegaBubbletea said:
Task killers aren't necessary for Android 2.1 and above. Google has optimized the system so that if you run out of memory, it will start automatically killing unused apps in the background. Even though you might see that only around 20MB of RAM is available doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It means that you can load up your recently used apps more quickly as it is already "cached" in your memory.
Killing apps may also disrupt other system processes that require it to run properly. However, if you want to save that extra battery then a task killer is good to use. Otherwise, task killers are not necessary. I would recommended downloading an app called "Watchdog" in the market. What this app does is monitors your running apps for any memory hoggers. This allows you to kill that app or uninstall it.
This is just my thoughts and may not be entirely correct. Anyone wishing to correct me is welcome to.
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Thanks for your reply.I also think that they aren't necessary.In the link above I read that task killers are dangerous for your phone.They are slowly killing your CPU and after some time the phone may start to crash.

Well i'm using a taskkiller and it doesn't do any harm.. And I think it makes my battery last longer.. But that might just be some kind of "placebo effect"

I personally don't use them on my phone, but on my tablet, I use them as it can get very slow without it.

Haque92 said:
Well i'm using a taskkiller and it doesn't do any harm.. And I think it makes my battery last longer.. But that might just be some kind of "placebo effect"
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I also thought that they were great,but after doing some research I decided to remove my task killer.My phone is working as smooth as before.But that's just me.

[Q] AutoKiller Memory Optimizer

seems it will automatically kill my Sense UI and i need time to reload it again after quitting the app, may i ask if any one know how to prevent this? i have set the lower oom but it say this setting cant last long..
BTW it kills my alarm also..
pls suggest some task killing software in which u think is gd..thanksss!

wa_xda said:
seems it will automatically kill my Sense UI and i need time to reload it again after quitting the app, may i ask if any one know how to prevent this? i have set the lower oom but it say this setting cant last long..
BTW it kills my alarm also..
pls suggest some task killing software in which u think is gd..thanksss!
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Is there a reason you need a task killer?
Most of these are unnecessary. My understanding is that Linux uses memory different than windows and it is not necessary to kill background processes. Those apps are not using system resources, they load but generally do not use additional memory or cpu until they are needed to do something. Every time your phone has to process to kill stuff off you are using the processor, battery and resources and often android will releoad them anyways.
From my experience, I get more speed and bang for the buck by just turning off window animations.
But I could be wrong, lol, your mileage may vary..................

cyberstoic said:
Is there a reason you need a task killer?
Most of these are unnecessary. My understanding is that Linux uses memory different than windows and it is not necessary to kill background processes. Those apps are not using system resources, they load but generally do not use additional memory or cpu until they are needed to do something. Every time your phone has to process to kill stuff off you are using the processor, battery and resources and often android will releoad them anyways.
From my experience, I get more speed and bang for the buck by just turning off window animations.
But I could be wrong, lol, your mileage may vary..................
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The issue is that some apps, even when not actively being used by the user, will continue to utilize system resources. However, there are several arguments all over these forums that task killer's typically do more harm than good. I still use "Advanced Task Killer" though.

you might like to read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666

wingsaba said:
you might like to read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666
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Thanks for the link; that was very useful info, reading it now.

DonJuan692006 said:
The issue is that some apps, even when not actively being used by the user, will continue to utilize system resources. However, there are several arguments all over these forums that task killer's typically do more harm than good. I still use "Advanced Task Killer" though.
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I used to use advanced task killer for a awhile. Don't know if it was my obsessive nature checking the thing or just the program, but battery life was a bit poor, lol. In the end I just gave up and stopped using it.

I don't like task killers.
Its saves memory but increases CPU usage.

after making these changes my phone is flying. good find!

dedraks said:
I don't like task killers.
Its saves memory but increases CPU usage.
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yes, indeed...

alarm fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12043283#post12043283

http://www.dustypixels.com/blog/2010/02/01/android-app-minfreemanager-v1-5/