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Which is the better GPU and why ?
I'm not sure of the technical reasons why, maybe people are just going off benchmarks, but the general consensus is that Adreno 220 has better gaming performance.
However, unless you are planning some hardcore gaming; Mali-400 MP or GeForce ULP will be just fine.
MALI-400 MP is imo a faster GPU but it really lacks stuff needed to be a good GPU. Also on the low level some of the major 3d scores are even lower than Adreno 205. So the quality here sucks. It misses many compression texture formats so low compatibility. Most games will come up with a solution for that but with time and that time could really end the life cycle of the gs2. Mali 400 is slower than adreno 205 in Geometric Tests, Common Tests, Exponential Tests. Adreno 220 will be a slightly slower GPU in synthetic tests but with more compatibility, better quality from the lower level, more texture compression formats and will be compatible with all games since start as adreno gpu games are already abundant in the market. So its more like a Samung delivered the fastest GPU with major flaws. Here Adreno 220 is like ATI and Nvidia and Mali-400 is like any other generic GPU from another company. And Galaxy S 2 coming in tegra 2 would really mess up the compatibility of Mali-400 seeing that Mali will be missing the number of devices so Mali - 400 could be a left out here.
Right now the game here is a Faster GPU (by a small margin) vs a more Compatible GPU. Better - if u can wait with no definite future mali and if u want everything now and in future its adreno
With CF working on compat I wouldnt be surprised if we're all playing Tegra Zone next month.
bilboa1 said:
With CF working on compat I wouldnt be surprised if we're all playing Tegra Zone next month.
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I agree. (10char)
Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked 1Ghz Mali 400
Dual Core Snapdragon GPU Performance Explored - 1.5 GHz MSM8660 and Adreno 220 Benchmarks 1.5Ghz Adreno 220
Should give you a rough idea of what to expect.
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Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked 1Ghz Mali 400
Dual Core Snapdragon GPU Performance Explored - 1.5 GHz MSM8660 and Adreno 220 Benchmarks 1.5Ghz Adreno 220
Should give you a rough idea of what to expect.
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No, it's not even close.
My Galaxy S II scores 42.2 fps in the same benchmark, Adreno scores an impressive 38 fps but this is with the CPU at 1.5GHz.
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Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked 1Ghz Mali 400
Dual Core Snapdragon GPU Performance Explored - 1.5 GHz MSM8660 and Adreno 220 Benchmarks 1.5Ghz Adreno 220
Should give you a rough idea of what to expect.
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No, this one is not accurate.
Just look at the firmware, SGS2 was running Android2.3.1 at the time, it was not a retail device.
Retail SGS2 outperforms anything currently in GLbench.
"Originally Posted by iwantandroid
I cried when I lerned this phone i got from tmobile didnt have Android. Can sum1 help me get Android on my new G1 and then tel me how to jailbroke it please"
LOL OMG
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Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked 1Ghz Mali 400
Dual Core Snapdragon GPU Performance Explored - 1.5 GHz MSM8660 and Adreno 220 Benchmarks 1.5Ghz Adreno 220
Should give you a rough idea of what to expect.
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these tests are kinda misleading, between non-final device/software and capped framerate
i'm a bit disappointed that it comes from anandtech since they usually try to have stuff all squared out on PCs ;-)
lol, you guys are very defensive about your phones, understandably.
What you should be able to ascertain though is that the 1Ghz Mali benchmarks are decent and you can expect better performance with it clocked at 1.2Ghz.
Conversely you should be able to see that the Adreno at 1.5Ghz, though impressive, will be less so clocked at 1Ghz like in the Sensation, which will also have a higher resolution screen.
I only provided the links so that people could make up their own mind by using the same logic.
Are you sure the Mali-400 is clocked at 1.2Ghz ?
Because when I overclocked my SGS2 to 1.5Ghz I saw a 25% performance increase in computing performance, but almost no increase at all in graphics performance (using GL Benchmark), so I thought the frequencies of the two were totally unrelated.
I dont know what the clock speeds of the GPU are, but CPU speed bumps will also help with 3D performance.
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I dont know what the clock speeds of the GOP are, but CPU speed bumps will also help with 3D performance.
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Well in my case it did not. I guess a dual core 1.2Ghz CPU is not a bottleneck on a smartphone lol.
Ive heard there are FPS caps on the Galaxy line, not sure how true this is, usually benchmarks should see an increase when handsets are overclocked.
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Ive heard there are FPS caps on the Galaxy line, not sure how true this is, usually benchmarks should see an increase when handsets are overclocked.
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its true for the sgs1 and 2 at least, frame rate is capped between 56 and 66 fps depending on kernels/versions etc
many benchmarks hit the cap (like quadrant)
And how does our adreno thingy compare with other phones?
Enlighten yourself please.
Adreno
so what is our adreno chips capable to do?
i doubt it supports that kind of performance
it's a gpu right?
it's for video and games right?
deedii said:
Enlighten yourself please.
Adreno
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Good answer Dee. ;-) Let me add to that
https://developer.qualcomm.com/discover/chipsets-and-modems/adreno
kingsize623 said:
it's a gpu right?
it's for video and games right?
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Yes. It's a GPU. specifically the X8 has the Adreno 200. Like its much more powerfull desktop counterparts, it assists or takes over the burden of rendering graphics output from the CPU.
Lets just say that it accelerates videos and games
THe Adreno 200 is an old GPU, the newest one is the Adreno 205, that is inside the Xperia Play.
codfreak said:
THe Adreno 200 is an old GPU, the newest one is the Adreno 205, that is inside the Xperia Play.
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Acctually newest chip is Areno 220 which is in HTC Sensation.
What processor is in the phone? I expect Exynos but I've been searching for a while and can't get any confirmation...
It is 1.4Ghz Exynos
iLiberate said:
What processor is in the phone? I expect Exynos but I've been searching for a while and can't get any confirmation...
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note-4135.php
Dual-core 1.4GHz ARM Cortex-A9 processor, Mali-400MP GPU, Exynos chipset
So is this the same processor that is found in the S2, just overclocked to 1.4ghz, or is it a completely new one?
sieepiestangel said:
So is this the same processor that is found in the S2, just overclocked to 1.4ghz, or is it a completely new one?
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I think it's overclocked, the CPU and GPU are same. I'm not sure if the clock of GPU is same are increased.
I'm wondering, was the GPU clock dropped from initially stated 533MHz?
Sorry, i'm asking about S4, not S3.
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Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
demlasjr said:
GPU [email protected]
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
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Holy ****, meant to ask about S4.
Hahahaha....you asked...I answered...LOL
- PowerVR SGX 544MP3 GPU; 3-core, 533Mhz
- Adreno 320; 4-core, 450Mhz
Now, hope that you won't tell that you were talking about Nexus 4 LMAO
So, while A15 cores were slowed down a bit from initial specs, GPU runs the same frequency as announced. Thank you
Phobos Exp-Nord said:
So, while A15 cores were slowed down a bit from initial specs, GPU runs the same frequency as announced. Thank you
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No, A15 were not slowed down. It was rumored and even released with the max frequency at 1,6 GHz, while in Korea will be clocked at 1,8GHz.
so s4 has powervr sgx 544 has anyone experience lag on high end games ex vice city gta 3 mc4 gangstar vegas rr3? Is the powervr sgx544 a dominant gaming GPU? if so these inercom phones are quad core http://www.amazon.com/inercom-Unloc...&qid=1372472174&sr=8-1&keywords=inercom+x920e and have powervr sgx 544
http://www.amazon.com/inercom-TM-Unlocked-N7300-smartphone/dp/B00CFAQNOA/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_1
if powervr sgx 544 is a superior mobile gaming gpu would anyone recommend me to those 2 cheap phone as i cannot afford i9500 due to cost and i live in USA with adreno.
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so s4 has powervr sgx 544 has anyone experience lag on high end games ex vice city gta 3 mc4 gangstar vegas rr3? Is the powervr sgx544 a dominant gaming GPU? if so these inercom phones are quad core http://www.amazon.com/inercom-Unloc...&qid=1372472174&sr=8-1&keywords=inercom+x920e and have powervr sgx 544
http://www.amazon.com/inercom-TM-Unlocked-N7300-smartphone/dp/B00CFAQNOA/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_1
if powervr sgx 544 is a superior mobile gaming gpu would anyone recommend me to those 2 cheap phone as i cannot afford i9500 due to cost and i live in USA with adreno.
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The galaxy S4 i9500 has PowerVR SGX 544MP3, im not sure if the MP3 part is any different or not, but from my experience i dont really experience lag, and i've tried it on gta vice city, MC4 and zombiewood.
From those china phones, i dont really trust their hardware and their 1.2GHz mediatek chipset, so i guess the only way to find out is to buy the phone and use it.
Other alternatives is buying 2012 phones, those are pretty cheap now and still runs good.
Jason2k13 said:
The galaxy S4 i9500 has PowerVR SGX 544MP3, im not sure if the MP3 part is any different or not, but from my experience i dont really experience lag, and i've tried it on gta vice city, MC4 and zombiewood.
From those china phones, i dont really trust their hardware and their 1.2GHz mediatek chipset, so i guess the only way to find out is to buy the phone and use it.
Other alternatives is buying 2012 phones, those are pretty cheap now and still runs good.
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I can only buy unlocked no contract phones budget is $220, I have considered to buy GS2 i777 with mali gpu for $175, i have gs2 skyrocket with adreno 220 gpu and it is horrible I do not devices with adreno gpu. I have considered thought in nexus 7 tegra 3 or any other tablet with tegra 3.
Would anyone recommend the lenovo a820 quad core phone with powervr sgx544?
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Would anyone recommend the lenovo a820 quad core phone with powervr sgx544?
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A SGX544MP3 [used in S4 Exynos] is much more powerful than a single core SGX544
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A SGX544MP3 [used in S4 Exynos] is much more powerful than a single core SGX544
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ok so the chinese phones GPU are single core, can you compare sgx544 to the mali gpu in s2?
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ok so the chinese phones GPU are single core, can you compare sgx544 to the mali gpu in s2?
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What are you looking for with such a comparison?
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ok so the chinese phones GPU are single core, can you compare sgx544 to the mali gpu in s2?
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Erm... No?
MediaTek 6589 chips are at the very least equivalent to Tegra 3.
Ok example iPhone 5 got PowerVR SGX 543MP3 (triple-core graphics) which is very powerful gpu.
Sams i9500 got it PowerVR SGX 544MP3.
in my opinion PowerVR SGX 544MP3 is a god like until Adreno330 witch is advanced as F.
Nook hd plus has powervrsgx544 1.5ghz dual core processor and i heard it has google play store now, if this a good tablet that can be used for gaming? I can get a 32gb one for around $180 would anyone recommend this?
Powervsgx533mp3
Galaxy s4 (I9500) have PowerVRSGX544 MP3 which means it only have 3 core compred to the GPU in Th new ipad PowerVRSFX544 MP4 which has 4 core. But the galaxy s4 gpu has been overlcoked to 533 mhz. so... yeah you wont experience any lag issue i think. If u are not sure just check out the videos in utube about galaxy s4 gaming performance, theres a lot of it and you can judge yourself
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Ok example iPhone 5 got PowerVR SGX 543MP3 (triple-core graphics) which is very powerful gpu.
Sams i9500 got it PowerVR SGX 544MP3.
in my opinion PowerVR SGX 544MP3 is a god like until Adreno330 witch is advanced as F.
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Actually Adreno330 isnt THAT much Advanced . it provides a total of 3 fps plus in some benchmark and some even tend to lag behind the powervr such as fillrate ofscreen. but the adreno330 benefit from 4k Playback which i really see it as one of today must have in a GPU
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Actually Adreno330 isnt THAT much Advanced . it provides a total of 3 fps plus in some benchmark and some even tend to lag behind the powervr such as fillrate ofscreen. but the adreno330 benefit from 4k Playback which i really see it as one of today must have in a GPU
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4k video play back must have? ..
So where did you get 4k videos to play .....i dont think 4k videos will be that much common like 1080p videos
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4k video play back must have? ..
So where did you get 4k videos to play .....i dont think 4k videos will be that much common like 1080p videos
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oh sorry my bad i wanted to say its NOT a must have forgot the NOT of course it is not no one uses 4k till date
What about Open GL 3.0 which Android 4.3 and Adreno supports, Powervr won't support it.
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What about Open GL 3.0 which Android 4.3 and Adreno supports, Powervr won't support it.
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actually it would support it imagination clearly stated that they will update the device with open gl 3.0 support
see this link http://withimagination.imgtec.com/i...4mp-a-modern-gpu-for-todays-leading-platforms
nook hd/+ would it be wise to get it solely for gaming, since it has google play store and powervr sgx544?
this phone has powervr sgx544 MP2 http://www.keryet.com/deal/buysku-16-off-amoi-n850-android-4-2-quad-core-3g-smartphone
avetny said:
Ok example iPhone 5 got PowerVR SGX 543MP3 (triple-core graphics) which is very powerful gpu.
Sams i9500 got it PowerVR SGX 544MP3.
in my opinion PowerVR SGX 544MP3 is a god like until Adreno330 witch is advanced as F.
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If you take the iPad 4 into account, it's SGX544MP4 + a dual core 1.4GHz GPU is about to push the most demanding games at retina res.
If theres lag with the SGX544MP3 on the S4, it is the developer's fault and partly google
One of the reason why I choose i9500 over i9505 is the powerVR gpu...