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Just made the jump to my DHD from my HD2, was cheffing for the HD2 for 18 months so thought i would start again LOL
i have made myself a build, was wondering if anyone would be interested in it if i share
its going to be for the not particularly experimental people who need and want a really stable, stock(ish) CM rom
Froyo CM 6.1.3, uber stable
Really clean, no junk apps at all
Several performance tweaks, quadrant ~ 2300
Standard CM kernel (until i build my own)
thoughts please
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gosh darnit i have put this in the wrong section, would a MOD mind miving it to the rom development section please
Unable to comply mate as any "ROM coming soon" thread is not allowed. Feel to post your downloadable file on this thread, PMme and "then" I'll send your thread to the right area.
Cheers,
M_T_M
PS: Do not post a thread over in development 'till your ROM is ready to be released, please.
No problem, on thinking about it it is probably better here until I release anyway!
How about cm7 with fixes and all since cn7 looks a helluva lot better than froyo
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Yeah man,MrYuiM is right.Gingerbread is a lot better and more nice looking.Froyo AOSP is ugly butt.Plus,I think you should release it anyway;New roms are always welcome around here!
g.lewarne said:
i have made myself a build, was wondering if anyone would be interested in it if i share
its going to be for the not particularly experimental people who need and want a really stable, stock(ish) CM rom
Froyo CM 6.1.3, uber stable
Really clean, no junk apps at all
Several performance tweaks, quadrant ~ 2300
Standard CM kernel (until i build my own)
thoughts please
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I appreciate you've probably put a lot of work into this for your own use, but all your really proposing is CM 6.1.3 with all the crap removed and some tweaks thrown in, I agree with the latter posters that you'd better serve the community by getting your development prowess behind teamdouche in the push towards CM7 stable than releasing this.
already got my GB rom well underway, just finalizing it really (it will be a direct port of CM7 RC2 at the moment)
g.lewarne said:
already got my GB rom well underway, just finalizing it really (it will be a direct port of CM7 RC2 at the moment)
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Why do another CM7 port, what the DHD needs is a really light aosp rom like adam g's oxygen for the desire
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AndroHero said:
Why do another CM7 port, what the DHD needs is a really light aosp rom like adam g's oxygen for the desire
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Hmm, he might be lightening, we never know. What we really do need is a CM7 ROM with Lee/Mike/Segio's performance and tweaks included. Now that is a ROM from heaven But Lewarne, your work is much appreciated
i shall say nothing other than let my reputation with HD2 roms speak for itself
i wont release it for a while though
Patience is a virtue I'll look at your HD2 ROMS
i have to say though im not that impressed with CM7+2.3.3
i find it quite unstable (tried lots of the rom ports on here) and a little laggy compared to froyo.
eg, im making the same basic rom (same apps, general system tweaks etc)
CM6+froyo - quadrant of 3300 @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - quadrant of [email protected] 1.5ghz
Now i know that quadrant is not a good benchmark, and is highly vulnerable to synthetic changes. However, nearly a thousnd points is a lot of variance, so i ran a linpack run on each, taking an average of 5 runs
CM6+froyo - 49 mflops @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - 45 mflops @ 1.5ghz
that is again quite a large disparity! visually, i actually prefer froyo as i find GB a bit too dark, and its certainly mature and stable. Even checked out the battery drain on my froyo rom, getting around 10ma or less on idle consistently, and thats with the standard CM kernel !
i dunno, would you guys at least like to try.look at my froyo build? im much more confident in it than i am GB at the moment.......
If u can get one of the recent battery drain fixes for cyanogenmod in ur Rom I certainly would love to try ur Rom, performance tweaks in combination with battery fixes sounds good to me!
Looking forwArd to seeing ur work in action
i was living quite fine with froyo, before flash cm7, some tweaks are really hard to leave. specially long press in search button to open an app and long press in back button to close an app... and beside it, i'm getting 3~5 mAh of battery draining with mad patch in gb and with stock cm6 kernel it is 12~14...
these are the main 'problem' with cm froyo build for me! =oP
i agree with you that cm7 is really unstable when compared to froyo, cm7 has wi-fi problems, gps problem, rotate problems, radio problem... quite annoiyng to be fixing point by poiint.
if you realese your rom, certainly i'll flash, but i think your knowledge would be more appreciated fixing issues from cm7. =o)
I am sure the inspire 4G community would appreciate it as well .
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i have to say though im not that impressed with CM7+2.3.3
i find it quite unstable (tried lots of the rom ports on here) and a little laggy compared to froyo.
eg, im making the same basic rom (same apps, general system tweaks etc)
CM6+froyo - quadrant of 3300 @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - quadrant of [email protected] 1.5ghz
Now i know that quadrant is not a good benchmark, and is highly vulnerable to synthetic changes. However, nearly a thousnd points is a lot of variance, so i ran a linpack run on each, taking an average of 5 runs
CM6+froyo - 49 mflops @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - 45 mflops @ 1.5ghz
that is again quite a large disparity! visually, i actually prefer froyo as i find GB a bit too dark, and its certainly mature and stable. Even checked out the battery drain on my froyo rom, getting around 10ma or less on idle consistently, and thats with the standard CM kernel !
i dunno, would you guys at least like to try.look at my froyo build? im much more confident in it than i am GB at the moment.......
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I see where you're coming from, but also remember the drivers for the GPU for gingerbread haven't been released, nor have any of the other drivers I think. Maybe this could affect performance as the old ones are in use?
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i have to say though im not that impressed with CM7+2.3.3
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i dunno, would you guys at least like to try.look at my froyo build? im much more confident in it than i am GB at the moment.......
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Hey man! You remember me right!?!? I'm quite happy for you to see you here!
Sorry if this is off-topic! But i'm also thinking of switching to DesireHD from HD2!
I know it's been maybe only 1 week with you, but how do you find it?!
How it is compared to HD2 in terms of build quality?!
To be honest i've been reading a bit in here and i'm not assured about it
It looks DHD have many build issues (without mentioning the expected bad battery issues)!
It looks it have issues with:
-GPS fix!
-camera lens misaligned!
-battery cover and sim cover misplaced or bumping out!
-dust under screen (which means unsealed gaps!)
-died pixels!
-...
It's really freaking me out! If i haven't touchscreen issues with HD2 i wouldn't sincerely think of switching!
Life Engineer said:
Hey man! You remember me right!?!? I'm quite happy for you to see you here!
Sorry if this is off-topic! But i'm also thinking of switching to DesireHD from HD2!
I know it's been maybe only 1 week with you, but how do you find it?!
How it is compared to HD2 in terms of build quality?!
To be honest i've been reading a bit in here and i'm not assured about it
It looks DHD have many build issues (without mentioning the expected bad battery issues)!
It looks it have issues with:
-GPS fix!
-camera lens misaligned!
-battery cover and sim cover misplaced or bumping out!
-dust under screen (which means unsealed gaps!)
-died pixels!
-...
It's really freaking me out! If i haven't touchscreen issues with HD2 i wouldn't sincerely think of switching!
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Yo just to jump in. I have no problems with any of those, but I haven't really used the GPS and if there is a problem I do what many others do and install the GPS Status Toolbox Build quality for me is perfect and it looks smexy
Any updates mate?
Hey everybody, before you start bashing about me using the search butten... I did, I was just unsuccessful. The thing is, I've used so many different types of roms and most of them work fine but always there seems to be a problem. What I'm trying to say is. Are there still recently updated Sense roms witch are not Sense 3.0 because I hate unstable roms, I've had so much trouble before. I'm looking for a as fast as possible rom with Sense 2.1 and one that keeps my phone alive longer than 5 hours. Right now I can't even find Sense 2.1 roms without all the flashy sense 3.0 skins and stuff. I did find some old stuff but like I was saying, I don't really like unstable stuff since my phone is killing me with the battery drain.
Does anyone have any suggestions for a recent sense 2.1 rom witch is fast, stable and good for the battery.
Thanks
No there is nothing. The sad truth of hd2 chefs since two months : all about updates. Stability and fixes ? They don't care about. Thank u for tytung and charansingh...
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Sense 3.0 is wayyy too buggy on the HD2 and in reality little or no progress has been made over the last few months as the issues have not really been resolved so im at a loss as to why someone would want to flash it on their phone, give me a solid stable build anyday (like Hyperdroid CM7) i don't miss sense in the slightest and i really cant see why people are so preoccupied with it!
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Sense 3.0 is wayyy too buggy on the HD2 and in reality little or no progress has been made over the last few months as the issues have not really been resolved so im at a loss as to why someone would want to flash it on their phone, give me a solid stable build anyday (like Hyperdroid CM7) i don't miss sense in the slightest and i really cant see why people are so preoccupied with it!
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sense 3 can be buggy but i prefere the look of sense over a CM7 or any stock gingerbread as they look ugly compared to sense and the keyboard on gingerbread is godawful compared to a sense keyboard
Hey,
just try
[13.Apr.11][RAM HD] imilka's RAM Desire HD v2.0 [Des HD][A2SD][K:Raf1.9OC]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954369&highlight=imilka
I've used it since 13 Apr. and with the GPS-Fix it was absolut perfect. Wich means no Bugs or something.
Batterydrain was ok. 3mA in Standby with Wifi on.
Uptime with normal usage 24 Hours.
Hope it helps!
Yeah but many FC on games...
Played a lot. Don't get some FC at all
Richy99 said:
sense 3 can be buggy but i prefere the look of sense over a CM7 or any stock gingerbread as they look ugly compared to sense and the keyboard on gingerbread is godawful compared to a sense keyboard
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I actually think CM7 looks brilliant, i use smart keyboard pro dont really bother with the gingerbread keyboard.
[21 APR][RAM HD] imilka's Glacier Sense v4.0 [MT4G][A2SD][K:raf1.9OC] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919148
the best stable and fully working android rom for the hd2
thanks imilka for his great effort
ham2z said:
[21 APR][RAM HD] imilka's Glacier Sense v4.0 [MT4G][A2SD][K:raf1.9OC] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919148
the best stable and fully working android rom for the hd2
thanks imilka for his great effort
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Thanks to all the Dev's who made the HD2 to this incredible phone!
jonny68 said:
Sense 3.0 is wayyy too buggy on the HD2 and in reality little or no progress has been made over the last few months as the issues have not really been resolved so im at a loss as to why someone would want to flash it on their phone, give me a solid stable build anyday (like Hyperdroid CM7) i don't miss sense in the slightest and i really cant see why people are so preoccupied with it!
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This ^
Hyperdroid and Typhoon are both EXCELLENT roms. I am running Hyperdroid right now. Battery drain is minimal.
It seems like the majority of the HD2 ROMs are Sense ROMs. Are there any good non-Sense ROMs, even stock Android ROMs for the HD2, or does everything pretty much include Sense?
Nope, Typhoon and Hyperdroid are great and faster, as stated in the post above yours...
you should try the boyppc shiftpda i have been using his Roms from the begining and never had any problems they just work good battery life but you need to manage it well but its a shame he has stoped usig the DAF install for his latest Roms but give them a go see how you like them
Any recommended stable and smooth SD ROM?
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Any recommended stable and smooth SD ROM?
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why don't you try the SuperRam froyo 1.5? it's veeeryy stable.; but the only thing i don't like, is that there is no stock battery % for the battery.. and i don't want to use widgets as they drain your battery!
i think that the only sense gingerbread rom that will be ok for hd2 will the one that finally htc is going to release for htc desire and i hope that someone of our devs will port it.personally after testing of allmost all sense roms i see that the only one that works with the smallest lags is the roms that are based in desire`s sense like first nand rom by dft or the one from bauner.the other sense roms were made for mobiles with better hardware from hd2 like better cpu and more ram and i think it is very difficult to fit in hd2.
jonny68 said:
Sense 3.0 is wayyy too buggy on the HD2 and in reality little or no progress has been made over the last few months as the issues have not really been resolved so im at a loss as to why someone would want to flash it on their phone, give me a solid stable build anyday (like Hyperdroid CM7) i don't miss sense in the slightest and i really cant see why people are so preoccupied with it!
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You are very wrong. There has been ALLOT of progress over last few months as far as 2.1+3.0 or just 3.0.
Check out the rom in my sig, its very stable and fast, Infact its much more stable and faster then the standard DHD sense roms that have allot of lag and the need to reboot various times and have to wait till system settles etc. The one in my sig has no lag and works virtually straight away.
The only bugs really are camcorder (which is nearly fixed + you can use non-HTC in mean time) and minor gfx bugs that are hardly noticeable and the added features well make up for it.
essentialjpm said:
It seems like the majority of the HD2 ROMs are Sense ROMs. Are there any good non-Sense ROMs, even stock Android ROMs for the HD2, or does everything pretty much include Sense?
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Well im not sure if you have been looking with your eyes closed or what because there is MANY non-sense roms available.
If you want a AOSP stock rom then you should get the NexusHD2 roms, either froyo or gingerbread, They are very fast, very stable and as close to stock as you will get.
DannyBiker said:
No there is nothing. The sad truth of hd2 chefs since two months : all about updates. Stability and fixes ? They don't care about. Thank u for tytung and charansingh...
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Sadly, i have to agree with this.. I dont see a point in releasing half finished ROMS and then updates that don't really fix things...
Sense (non 3) roms are less and less available, but thankfully we have guys like tytung and charansing havibg roms ou there that work for 100%
Dont get me wrong, i respect and appreciate the efforts, but i dont see the use of 20 releases where all of them have the same flaws and nobody can fix that until we have the desire source for GB.
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KrewsialNL said:
Sadly, i have to agree with this.. I dont see a point in releasing half finished ROMS and then updates that don't really fix things...
Sense (non 3) roms are less and less available, but thankfully we have guys like tytung and charansing havibg roms ou there that work for 100%
Dont get me wrong, i respect and appreciate the efforts, but i dont see the use of 20 releases where all of them have the same flaws and nobody can fix that until we have the desire source for GB.
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What you and all the other newbies here don't seem to understand or grasp is that this site is called xda-developers and this forum is for developments. Things dont always just "work" they develop. What doesn't work now will work later, that's just how it is. Even the most stable roms like NexusHD2 etc didnt work properly in beginning.
The point of these releases that have bugs is so that people can test, leave feedback etc and so dev can work on developing the build.
If you dont enjoy trying new builds, tweaking roms or generally playing with them you can stick to NexusHD2 but for the people like myself who do enjoy the whole process we have a choice.
Ok ive been doing all this rooting and customization for about 3 months now and i have what i think is a big noob Question!
Q. What is the purpuse of other roms, other then stock or cyanogen?
-Do they offer different things that i dont know about, i mean i know some allow you to get netflix and better batterylife but isnt the batterylife thing really lie in the kernel?
But other then that why get a different Rom if im going to customize it the same way i have now?
And im totally sorry if this sounds dumb...still trying to really get into all this modding thing.
mightymike889 said:
Ok ive been doing all this rooting and customization for about 3 months now and i have what i think is a big noob Question!
Q. What is the purpuse of other roms, other then stock or cyanogen?
-Do they offer different things that i dont know about, i mean i know some allow you to get netflix and better batterylife but isnt the batterylife thing really lie in the kernel?
But other then that why get a different Rom if im going to customize it the same way i have now?
And im totally sorry if this sounds dumb...still trying to really get into all this modding thing.
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Well you bring an interesting spin on a simple thought. With all the options out there you can make a Sense ROM look AOSP or make a AOSP ROM look like sense... 8
Some of the ROMs are just personal preference. I use Cyanogen(mod) because that is what i've used for my entire "android life", it's what i know, it's what i like. I know what going to be included, i know where to find stuff... . I know eViL Dee has some follower in the same case, as well as TeamRoyal. It's a comfort level i guess. I mean with so many Sense Based ROMs, so many AOSP ROMs and some other, it's all about minor tweaks. Like Cyanogen(mod) and Faux123 both offer amazing AOSP ROMs. But Faux is a little more "pure" when it comes from an AOSP end point.
neidlinger said:
Well you bring an interesting spin on a simple thought. With all the options out there you can make a Sense ROM look AOSP or make a AOSP ROM look like sense... 8
Some of the ROMs are just personal preference. I use Cyanogen(mod) because that is what i've used for my entire "android life", it's what i know, it's what i like. I know what going to be included, i know where to find stuff... . I know eViL Dee has some follower in the same case, as well as TeamRoyal. It's a comfort level i guess. I mean with so many Sense Based ROMs, so many AOSP ROMs and some other, it's all about minor tweaks. Like Cyanogen(mod) and Faux123 both offer amazing AOSP ROMs. But Faux is a little more "pure" when it comes from an AOSP end point.
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#1 what is AOSP lol
#2 so really the other roms are the same thing with sort of a different look but in reality you can basically achieve that look by modding it ..
#3 so there really isnt a difference in roms is basically wat your saying..
Don't forget miui, used to hate the ios_esk ui, but there is alot of customizability without having to go through adw or lp. Super smooth super fast. You can change everything from boot ani to fonts/custom lock screen in their there manager.
Use to be a big aosp user, but got a little plain and boring. If I was still on my mt3g I would be using aosp, but with our hardware we can afford a little more eye candy and convenience without performance sacrifice.
I usually rock between evil's vf3 and royal miui. Both get about 2 days of battery life with absolutely no lag
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mightymike889 said:
#1 what is AOSP lol
#2 so really the other roms are the same thing with sort of a different look but in reality you can basically achieve that look by modding it ..
#3 so there really isnt a difference in roms is basically wat your saying..
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AOSP: android open source project. More of pure vanilla android without all the extra framework and great for performance. I've gotten up to 3500 in quadrant score on aosp and 3 days of battery life.
Sense roms: built off htc sense framework. Tons of pretty interactive widgets but sacrifice battery and performance. Your stock mt4g came with sense stuff like facebook and weather clock animated widgets. And yes you can get sense looking widgets in an aosp, but htc offers much more than you can find on the market.
Miui: kind of like ios meets android. Not everybody likes it,
You can technically make any rom type look like any other rom type. But in the core and functionality, they are world apart
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The thing is you can replicate the UIs of other phones but you never never perfectly mimic the functionality gained from a specific UI, you cant get certain MIUI features in CM, or get all the integration of Sense into others rom. You can also make you phone look like a Droid, Sony, LG, Sammy, etc... I like MIUI now since it seems to be much quicker than other roms, I've used android since like late 09, and I must say MIUI is so different even though it's android at the core.
Joker Fuel said:
AOSP: android open source project. More of pure vanilla android without all the extra framework and great for performance. I've gotten up to 3500 in quadrant score on aosp and 3 days of battery life.
Sense roms: built off htc sense framework. Tons of pretty interactive widgets but sacrifice battery and performance. Your stock mt4g came with sense stuff like facebook and weather clock animated widgets. And yes you can get sense looking widgets in an aosp, but htc offers much more than you can find on the market.
Miui: kind of like ios meets android. Not everybody likes it,
You can technically make any rom type look like any other rom type. But in the core and functionality, they are world apart
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Hmm ok ...so wat about cm...isnt that Rly aosp Or no
Mytouch 4G, cyg 7.02
mightymike889 said:
Hmm ok ...so wat about cm...isnt that Rly aosp Or no
Mytouch 4G, cyg 7.02
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CM straight from their site
"CyanogenMod is based on the Android Open Source Project with extra contributions from many people within the Android community."
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Someone correct me if i'm wrong on any of this
Cm was developed to work on most android phones. Most of the AOSP roms that you see in the glacier development section are based off of CM but customized to work better for our phone.
Now looking at other roms for instance take Royal Ginger.
"Is built and compiled from CM7 source code with lots of the CM7 extras and other assorted bloatery removed + a custom kernel & numerous tweaks and optimizations added in. It's sleak, it's mean, and it's fast"
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So it came from CM, lets look at the 2.0 channel log to see exactly what the Developer did to it and then after trying CM if the changes look better it may be worth trying
- entire ROM completely rebuilt and compiled from scratch using latest 2.3.4 CM7 source code. i don't just take in all of the updates/code/commits willy nilly. i check them all out and cherry pick the ones i want .. test some out, decide whether or not to keep them in, etc. (more on that later)
- bundled with my first kernel build: ckisgen-smartass-CM7-v1.0 . this is compiled using a base of zinx's latest CM7 stock source but i've added in the smartass governor (with a little inspiration from dumbfuqs source code, thanks df!) and then tweaked a couple of addt'l settings. i've bumped the default max clock to 1.1ghz. this kernel will overclock to 1.8ghz. i've got LOTS of plans for this in the future. i'm going to be working hard on it. i went with something like this for maximum compatibility with this latest 2.3.4 and all the changes that it's brought about. I def gotta give a big THANKS to FauxMoney for the colorful late night conversations and inspiration to make my own kernel...thanks man.
- FULLY working google Talk with video and audio working BOTH ways (ok maybe not 100% .. switching to rear camera FC's but we're working on that..still really solid)
- moved basically all of the remaining 'extra' CM apps and a couple of others to user storage so that they can be easily removed using the traditional uninstall method via the manage applications menu (settings/applications). i call this one the "E-Z AOSP-ify" update. these apps are:
* terminal
* xda
* DSP manager (this is the new one with the EQ presets .. very nice)
* FM
* ROM Manager
* Spare Parts
* stk
* Swype
* Torch
* YouTube
- TONS and TONS of other stuff .. optimizations everywhere .. GPS, radio, data, ETC!!!!!
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After using CM for a while this may look good so read all the comments to see if anyone was having issues and whether they liked it, was it a battery hog to slow to fast etc. Any new rom will have some minor bugs but if all the new pro's outweigh the couple cons try it.
I also saw that it was on version 2.1, so I read that channel log (I won't post here) to see what fixes or changes were made. Maybe a new theme, kernal, some new app's.
It becomes fun, get involved, learn as you go try new stuff and see what works for you. Always ask if you have a question, everyone around here is really helpful.
I just used Royal Ginger as an example to show you the difference between CM and another AOSP rom that is based of CM
Edit: Also look at the pictures that they add, most everything can be changed but a rom's pics may just look really cool that you just have to try it.
Bottom line, try it all and settle with the one you like. It'll keep you busy and entertained for months
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Rate from 1-10 in terms of:
Looks:
Speed:
Battery Life:
Stabability:
Any rom developed by aamikam
Looks:10(sense is so pretty)
Speed:7(Sense is a bit slower than aosp)
Battery:10(Sense gives me the best battery life i have ever seen on my phone)
Stability:10(everything always works)
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Currently my favorite ROM is MIUI. It's so much different than any other ROM and there's a ton of customization.
Looks: easy 10
Speed: not the fastest ROM but quick. I'll give it an 8
Battery life: easy 10. I get the better battery life than any other ROM
Stability: 8 - depends on the build but all in all pretty stable.
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man its all really personal opinion but ill give it my best review seeing as how ive used all of the ones that are available for the shift "i think"
AOSP ROMS: CM7 (Cyanogenmod 7) and Shift Deck
AOSP DEFINITION:Stock Pure Google Android. doesnt get much simpler than that.
Shift Deck: This is about as AOSP as it gets its pure stock android (think of a nexus S) Shift Deck like most AOSP roms gives great battery life. I find making it a little over a day not very hard with quite some usuage. The speed is very slick too.
My rating
Looks:7 (an opinated question)
Speed:10
Battery Life:9
Stability: 10
Features: 6
CM7: This is AOSP with a lot of different features inside of it that are hard to go through all of them. but basically if you like the look of AOSP but want more customization options and features CM7 is a great way to go
My Rating
Looks: 7
Speed 10
Battery Life:9
Stability: 8.5(only because its still in nightly builds and there are a few problems)
Features:8 (more than stock AOSP and some good ones at that)
Evervolv: Think of Shift Deck with a different stock launcher. Its codenamed Creo and has a couple different features. for that purpose to me it recieves the same score as Shift Deck
SENSE ROMS
Sense in general is what the shift comes stock with. An overlay on android made by HTC to bring further customization for the purpose of length i will not include Stock Sense 2.1
Sense 3.0 Kingdom Port: This is a full Sense 3.0 port for the evo shift its elegant and sexy and jam packed with customization. Now HTC did state Sense 3.0 would only work on NEWER devices and it does show in the port. on a stock kernel it does get really laggy with memory issues.
MY rating
Looks:9.5( i dont give looks a 10 because it sort of opiniated)
Speed:5 (it works but to me unusable)
Battery Life:7 (the port defeinently takes a toll on the battery
Features: 10
Stability: 4
MikShift-G Sense 2.1+3.0: This is based off Sense 2.1 with 3.0 features added into it. Personally this is one of my favorites. Its got a great mix of 3.0 features so you dont feel left behind and out of date and with aamikams optimizing it runs beautifully. I dont notice lag per say but there are a couple times things take just a tad bit longer to load. Added Sense 3.0 Features Include -Lockscreen,Weather,Messaging, Task Manager, and probably a couple others im forgetting
Looks:9.1 (lol)
Speed.9.5
Battery Life:9 (As good or sometimes better than AOSP)
Features:9
Stability: 9.9 (even the beta was fantastic only one KB light problem that is still in the official build)
SupremeSense 2.1+3.0. So you like the sound of Mikshift-G but you miss that 3D rosie and 3D widgets from Sense 3.0? Well here you go. SupremeSense is based off Mikshift-G but with a couple nice features Including 3D Sense 3.0 Launcher, and Darktremmors A2SD. This is a little bit more memory heavy so there is some lag but definently still usable
Looks:9.4
Speed:8.5
Battery Life:9 (same as Mikshift-G)
Features: 9.2
Stability:9
MIUI ROMS
We have a few miui ports and there basically the same just newer versions so im just going to review miui in general
MIUI (I think its said like "MY-U-I") is very umm "different" or in alot of ways its not different. if you have ever used or seen an iphone then you have a sense (no pun intended) of what the MIUI launcher is like. Its based of of AOSP but it doesnt look like it. It has an iOS type feel to it. It has no app drawer all your icons are on the homescreens and you scroll left and right through them. you have the ability to make folders like in iOS which seems to be an essential part in MIUI. You have a lockscreen sort of like Sense 1.0-2.1.
Its got a different way of handling text messages. and menu systems and the whole UI of the phone has its own unique feel that you have to try out to completley understand. MIUI currently does not support 4G so if you use it your SOL. but it is definently worth checking out
It does run across MMS issues sometimes too. Miui has its own personal theme manager that will theme anything from sounds to design asthetics to bootanimations, and lockscreens including options for sense 3.0 type lockscreens. its a very complete theming process. Think of it as HTC Hub on Steroids.
My Rating:
Look:8.9(once again opiniated question)
Speed:9 (generally very slick)
Battery Life:9 (AOSP like Battery Life)
Stability: 7.5 (this is miui's lowest point)
Features. 9 (its very unique in features)
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I believe i have covered every ROM in our development section please let me know if i forgot any
Thanks for the overview notsointeresting!
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Enraged21 said:
Thanks for the overview notsointeresting!
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No problem just trying to help
and since i flash anything that has the term "flashable" in its name i thought i might as well lol
yes thanks a bunch man. covered everything lol
Lol. Your overview made me wanna tried out mik mik rom. Never tried it before, but I never was a sense type of person.
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Enraged21 said:
Lol. Your overview made me wanna tried out mik mik rom. Never tried it before, but I never was a sense type of person.
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Its an outstanding ROM. but if you just dont like the design asthetics of sense then no you wont like it.
but all the problems people say they have with sense is eliminated in the rom
I am running Supreme Sense which is based of Mikshift-G (as i said in the review lol) and at 72% battery life i am going 8 hours and 8 min (reading it off my phone as i type) with wifi going the whole time, gps, lots of texts a few voice calls and LOTS of web browsing.
The lag people expierence with sense is compltley gone it runs great and smooth just as fast as AOSP. Some apps may take half a second more to load tho
and you gotta love the sense 3 lockscreen haha
Thanks notsointeresting, I just got this phone and have been wondering what way I wanted to go on it in terms of what rom to put on it. I am coming from a Samsung Transform so almost any rom is going to run faster and smoother then the best rom and kernal package could give me on the transform. Based on your review I am trying the MikShift-G Sense 1.4 so far so good really enjoy the sense feel and look. Thinking of trying Supreme Sense but would like to find a video of it before going through the trouble of downloading it and setting it up.
Not to hijack the thread but could you tell me even in a PM your review of kernals available?
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Thanks notsointeresting, I just got this phone and have been wondering what way I wanted to go on it in terms of what rom to put on it. I am coming from a Samsung Transform so almost any rom is going to run faster and smoother then the best rom and kernal package could give me on the transform. Based on your review I am trying the MikShift-G Sense 1.4 so far so good really enjoy the sense feel and look. Thinking of trying Supreme Sense but would like to find a video of it before going through the trouble of downloading it and setting it up.
Not to hijack the thread but could you tell me even in a PM your review of kernals available?
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Believe me I would love to haha. But unless your on an AOSP rom your SOL (sadly out of luck haha) because HTC has not provided the source code for the evo shift yet so developers can not make kernels. It's a serious GPL violation an people (including me) have been sending tweets and posting on twitters face book wall saying something like ( @HTC We still need you to release the source code for the EVO Shift 4G #GPL #Android) they will have to release it soon though and I'm thinking when that time comes I might make a dedicated thread for kernel and roms and put my reviews and information on them and let people leave reviews or what not. But that would depend on if people where interested.
Also check out my EpicBlue theme for Milshift-G it finally supports 1.4
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Its an outstanding ROM. but if you just dont like the design asthetics of sense then no you wont like it.
but all the problems people say they have with sense is eliminated in the rom
I am running Supreme Sense which is based of Mikshift-G (as i said in the review lol) and at 72% battery life i am going 8 hours and 8 min (reading it off my phone as i type) with wifi going the whole time, gps, lots of texts a few voice calls and LOTS of web browsing.
The lag people expierence with sense is compltley gone it runs great and smooth just as fast as AOSP. Some apps may take half a second more to load tho
and you gotta love the sense 3 lockscreen haha
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You did leave out all the customizable lockscreens with miui, I have the sense 3 lockscreen as well running the latest miui.us.
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You did leave out all the customizable lockscreens with miui, I have the sense 3 lockscreen as well running the latest miui.us.
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Not only lock screens but customizable notification bar, icons, boot animation and fonts. All easily customized from the theme manager.
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Not only lock screens but customizable notification bar, icons, boot animation and fonts. All easily customized from the theme manager.
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I did not know the later versions had a sense 3 lockscreen? Is it a remake of it or is it a port of the exact one. I just ask so I can put it on my post.
And yes your right I did leave out theme manager for miui it does have a very simple way to download and use complete themes to change everything from sounds to looks to bootanimations.
Edit: I added that information in the first post I made. Thanks very much Rooster85 and Crump84
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I did not know the later versions had a sense 3 lockscreen? Is it a remake of it or is it a port of the exact one. I just ask so I can put it on my post.
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The Sense 3 lockscreen screen has to be added through the theme manager. There are threads dedicated to just miui lock screens, Sense 3 is just one of the many options.
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The Sense 3 lockscreen screen has to be added through the theme manager. There are threads dedicated to just miui lock screens, Sense 3 is just one of the many options.
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Many thanks man.
The post has been updated with more accurate information
I have not flashed miui since 1.7.5 I think? And then went to mikshift-G and haven't tried anything since then but looks like I need to take a look at miui again
I would highly suggest it, it was 7.something where a lot of cool changes were made. I believe the sense lockscreen its a exact port or at least it looks EXACTLY the same as the mikshift [email protected]
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I would highly suggest it, it was 7.something where a lot of cool changes were made. I believe the sense lockscreen its a exact port or at least it looks EXACTLY the same as the mikshift [email protected]
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MIUI is great and all I really like it. But until MIUI starts supporting 4G I can't use it for more than a couple hours to figure out all the features and what ill miss when I flash back.
I live in texas so its the one of the most heavily covered 4G areas (if not THE most heavily covered area) in the U.S so I need it
Edit: BTW OP I hope were not hijacking your thread here. We are talking about ROM's and our opinions so it shouldn't but were not exactly reviewing them so please let us know lol
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MIUI is great and all I really like it. But until MIUI starts supporting 4G I can't use it for more than a couple hours to figure out all the features and what ill miss when I flash back.
I live in texas so its the one of the most heavily covered 4G areas (if not THE most heavily covered area) in the U.S so I need it
Edit: BTW OP I hope were not hijacking your thread here. We are talking about ROM's and our opinions so it shouldn't but were not exactly reviewing them so please let us know lol
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Yeah, i hear ya on that... Without 4G I wouldn't have a cell phone... Where I live my 4G is sometimes worse than 3G speeds... My 3G is usually at 1x speeds and my talk varies... For all that I've tried Evervolv and it messed up my phone. Hated it. I currently use the Cyanogen Nightlies. They for me offer the best of everything. Speed, customization, battery life... With the theme chooser they can look basically how ever you want. With beautiful widgets you can get some sense like widgets and others. Many launcher options. I use ADW and its a perfect blend of stability and customization. I've heard very good things about Shift deck. In my opinion sense is super slow compared to AOSP. People have said that the Mikshift G runs like AOSP. But to me, i can see the difference. So I'm gonna vote for plain and simple cyanogen
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I am currently running NilsP Business Sense 2.1/3.0 and i was wondering what performence hit i'd take if i plunged straight to 3.5? I used early 3.0 ROMS and they were painfully slow.. I was wondering if they were the same now.
My 3.0 rom is fast. Just doesn't sound like there's a whole lot more to a 3.5 than a 3.0 so I couldn't tell you my experiance as far as speed with 3.5.
Nils Business gingersense 3.0 v2.1
Sorry, but ALL Sense 3.x ROMs drag sorry ass on this device. There's no way to get around it. The software is just too muscular for the device. You end up with a crazy amount of vm being used, and since NAND memory is some pretty slow stuff, the lag becomes something best measured in full seconds.
^^ what he said.
and anyone who claims their 3.0/3.5 roms run "super fast" and "lag free" must never have run a stock incredible lol because the stock inc is how this phone is supposed to run (sense 1.0)...sense 3 is waaaaaaay too laggy. the one thing that always pissed me off is the notification dropdown menu lag. sometimes it would take up to 5 seconds for mine to drop down, even when i was just idling doing nothing. very annoying.
The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.
I thought Joel's Sense 3.0 ROM on this was crazy fast. Then I used a 3.0 ROM on my inc2. Big difference. At the stock clock speed my phone still has no lag on my current 3.5 ROM.
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Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.
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Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.
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Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.
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I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.
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I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.
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Thanks.
Hope my nose doesn't turn to brown here, but I gotta say I always look forward to your comments and incite on things. Its always something good. I'm nervous that your gonna try my Rom even, lol. But for real I hope you like it. And as always, I look forward to your 'real' input on it.
Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.
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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.
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I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Are you using Conap's Boot Manager?
I this k many of the left over issues present in these roms aren't necessarily the dev abandoning it, but rather they can't fix it, either because it would take too much time or they don't know how/can't figure it out. MMS over Wifi is a big one on the 2.1/3.0 hybrids. I've seen many devs try to fix it but they just can't.
Like Stang said, once a rom reaches Nearly Flawless state, which is everything is fixed minus the persistent issues across all similar based roms, its development is completed. These people don't get paid to sit for hours to make every little thing work on our phone.
I think this fact causes frustration among users, that life isn't kittens and rainbows and we can't have the latest and greatest working like a champ on our aging hardware. Its not the devs fault guys.
Choose CM7 or a sense 1.0 rom if you want stability and speed. Anything else will always have little issues that frustrate you.
As for me, I like to use one of these newer roms until I get frustrated by these little issues, then go back to CM7/1.0, then once I'm bored with that I go back to a newer sense rom... Rinse and repeat
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ok, so I'm running a 3.0 sense rom in the Nils rom I have. There is no lag between home sections. (I don't have the 3d tilt accelerometer feature on of course) and as for the pull down, I will agree, sometimes it does lag, but I hardly ever use the pull down anyway, and my case doesn't make it easy to pull down anyway. I usually go through the menu button/notifications to have the pull down come down. Other than that...what lag is this you speak of? I also don't run a live wallpaper very much in order to help out the battery life a little as well. So maybe thats where some lag people are speaking of is being caused?
Maybe its just me, but I'm not experiancing heavy lag with my 3.0 rom and I am even running the latest kernel. I will agree however, if you want the fastest most optimized rom for a dinc, then get a stock rom of course. But the 3.0 rom I'm running is running smooth.
I'm Running Nil's Sense 3.5, and I love it!!
(if you have tried other Roms, make sure you follow his whole wipe guide in his Sense 3.5 post 1)
I love the speed of this rom! If you are happy with 3.0, stick with it, but I love the way the email looks and works in 3.5 (it's a little snappier, and allows for more customization)
While his 3.0 was pretty fast, I find 3.5 to be just that much faster.
Plus, gets even faster if you use Tiny's Kernel!
but when you compare either 3.0 or 3.5 against 1.0... 1.0 just sucks!
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[insert name here] released Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile.
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I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?
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I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?
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Sure its right here, lol--->
I'm using Nils 3.5, and while there is some lag here and there, its a good, stable, and fairly snappy ROM. I also have V6 Supercharger (way aggressive) and the GingerTiny kernel, and that helps.
Maybe I'm just not expecting as much...I knew it would be slower than stock, but I feel its worth it for the enhancements.
But, to each his (or her!) own.
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