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[Q] What to do after rooting?

I perma-rooted my T-Mobile G2, but now I'm lost.
Since I can't flash official ROMs, what can I do to update OS? Are there any options besides CM7? If I switch to CM7, does it mean I lose all my previous installations? And does it mean I'm stuck with CM forever? When do you expect official version of CM7 to be released?
Thank you in advance.

You can flash any ROM you want. There are many good solid ones in the Development forum here and other android forums of course.
If you're looking to back up your apps before you install a ROM (because you must wipe all data when installing new ROMs) I'd advise you download an app called Titanium Backup. I use it regularly when switching ROMs and it really is necessary. This can back up all apps, app data, and even system data if you want. You can then restore after flashing your new ROM.
CM7 is at RC-1 (Release Candidate) which means that it has been declared stable enough with few enough bugs for the general public. I've personally been running nightlies for a few weeks now with no issues, and the RC-1 seems to be similar. There really is no date for when it will become an official release, but if you're up for waiting that's totally understandable.
If you don't wanna go with the CM7 RC route, you can always go to one of the other Sense-based ROMs, or even CM6 which has been extremely stable for a long time now. You can always just check out one of the stock 2.2 roms as well, they're often optimized with no bloatware and often run quicker than the stock ROM with perm root you have now.
Changing ROMs is easy, and just because you decide one doesn't mean you can't switch to another. Just use the app "ROM manager" to backup, wipe, and install different ROMs as you see fit.
Basically which ROM you choose is up to you. Just look through the dev forum and check out the offerings, read then ask questions and try them out. I definitely recommend reading some of the stickies about backing up/flashing/etc. before you get going.
Kinda hard for me to give more info because it seems like you're pretty new. I'd just advise that you read up on everything and always do backups before you flash any ROM or update in order to restore if you run into issues.

tulgaa said:
I perma-rooted my T-Mobile G2, but now I'm lost.
Since I can't flash official ROMs, what can I do to update OS? Are there any options besides CM7? If I switch to CM7, does it mean I lose all my previous installations? And does it mean I'm stuck with CM forever? When do you expect official version of CM7 to be released?
Thank you in advance.
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1. Download and install ROM Manager and within ROM Manager flash ClockworkMod Recovery. This will allow you to create and restore complete backups of your phone. This should be the first thing you do. Second, create a backup (a Nandroid). It will be almost impossible to screw things up permanently with ClockworkMod Recovery installed and a backup on your sd card.
2. After you have a backup created, you can start trying different ROMs and if you don't like it, just try another one or restore your backup. You can even have multiple backups of different ROMs and switch back and forth if you want.
3. You are going to see a lot of references to gapps, which is short for Google Apps. Many ROMs come pre-loaded with gapps - Cyanogen was stopped by Google from incorporating them into his ROM's so the package is made available to flash immediately after you flash a CM ROM. Once you log in to Google with your account (use the same one every time) all your market apps will start downloading from the market automatically - that is all the apps that you had actively installed before you switched ROMs. Your phone will be sluggish at first while it updates all your market apps. To backup apps that you've installed from your sd card, download Titanium backup.
4. Now that you're rooted you aren't stuck with anything. Your options are wide open. Just look over the XDA site. It'll be obvious how much you can do with your phone now.
I'm on CM7 now and its very stable. Download build #41 - 42 should be out by the morning. If you decide to go with that, you won't believe how much more your phone has to offer than the stock ROM. I don't believe you'll ever want to go back to stock again, but if you do there's information here in the forums to do that including unrooting your phone.

I agree with this, read about the different roms in the G2 Development Section especially.
It's a bit confusing with all the roms, but as long as you backup your rooted setup now, you should be free and fine to try several different ones. (See step 1 about by EdKeys).
I recommend purchasing Titanium Backup...it will allow you to reinstall all your apps relatively quickly and keep all saves/settings.
Try out a sense rom (for example Virtuous) as well as CM7. I tried out sense before, but it makes the phone feel slow despite being very cool. When I first rooted my G2 I went straight for Cyanogenmod 6.1.1, as it was the stable version. Cyanogenmod 7 RC1 is way better.
Good luck and I hope you find something you like!

I highly recommend Virtuous.
Also, this isn't stated anywhere normally, so I'll share with you: I absolutely suggest using ROM Manager for most everything - it's a GUI for Clockworkmod, basically, and makes things a bit easier.
HOWEVER
The only ROMs you'll find in ROM Manager are ones that the developer has submitted. Not all devs care that much, so you'll find a TON more ROMs to try in the Development subforum. To flash one of those, simply download the .zip file of the ROM to your memory card (it doesn't matter where, you could put it on the root or you could create a 'romstotry' folder if you wanted).
Once you have the zip file on your memory card, open ROM Manager, choose 'Install Zip from SDcard' and show ROM Manager which zip file you want to use. IT'll then pop up and ask if you want to wipe, and if you want to backup your current ROM.
If you're switching between two different ROMs, you *always* want to wipe. Always. If you're simply installing a new version of the ROM you currently have installed, you don't *need* to wipe (unless the dev specifically says that you need to, so read the changelogs), but it's a good idea to do so anyways. You'll have a bit more setup to do, but wiping will prevent most problems that people seem to have.
hope that helps.

Thank you very much all. I installed CM 7 RC1 and it works great. I will try other ROMs when I get familiar with CM.

tulgaa said:
I perma-rooted my T-Mobile G2, but now I'm lost.
Since I can't flash official ROMs, what can I do to update OS? Are there any options besides CM7? If I switch to CM7, does it mean I lose all my previous installations? And does it mean I'm stuck with CM forever? When do you expect official version of CM7 to be released?
Thank you in advance.
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Hi - the first thing I did after perma-root was change the boot animation for my G2 - you can do it by hand, or you can use an application located in market - just search for 'boot animation.'
After that's it's straight to the custom ROMs - I'm using Sense Virtuous 1.0.0 and loving it.

[Telus T959D Fascinate] - Install MIUI, CM7 and More!!

Follow Steps at own Risk
MIUI or CM7 Installation:
1.) Depending on what you want to install, download either the I9000 Miui 1.11.11 Rom or the CM 7.1 Stable Rom.
2.) Download the Glitch-V13-DEV-TelusFascinate+ kernel. I chose the Medium Leakage Kernel.
3.) Move both ZIP (ROM and Kernel) files over to the Root of your Internal SD Card (USB, Bluetooth, etc)
4.) Make sure you DISABLE all Lagfixs if you have it enabled.
IMPORTANT:
Froyo 2.2.x (Not Tested):
We need to be able to boot into CWM. Easiest way to do this if you are on Froyo is to Flash the SpeedMod kernel or the Voodoo Kernel. I suggest following all steps which includes installing Darky 9.2 just to be sure. I haven't tried flashing Miui or CM7 from right from the SpeedMod CWM.
Gingerbread 2.3.x (Tested):
If you running a custom ROM that is based off Gingerbread you will be required to flash the Darky Resurrection Edition 9.2 (Froyo) via Odin. This is to insure that the proper boot loaders updated before installing MIUI or CM7. Download the Darky 9.2 package from the above URL, the ONLY files that we need from here are: Odin3 v1.3.exe, darky_odin.tar.md5 & s1_odin_20100512.pit​
Follow Ficeto's Instructions below to flash Darky 9.2 and remember to backup all your stuff before starting.
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5.) Next step is to get your phone into Download Mode. If you are unsure please search the forums here.
6.) Now, open ODIN and connect the phone to the computer. ODIN will say 'Added'.
7.) Tick the 'Repartition' option, and then select the following files in ODIN (from the folder you extracted the base package in):
[*]PDA: darky_odin.tar.md5
[*]PIT: s1_odin_20100512.pit
8.) Press the Start button and wait for it to finish. Once it finishes, disconnect the phone from the computer after the phone reboots.
9.) After ODIN completes procedure and the phone reboots, a screen will come on the phone with 'Android system recovery <2e>' written at the top, and the following text will be written at the bottom:
"E:Invalid command argument
--Install from package--
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Installing update...
#MANUAL MODE#
-- Appling Muti CSC...
Installing Muti CSC"
Don't worry about this.
10.) From here the next step is to reboot your phone, your POWER / SELECT button will not work so you will have to pull the battery out. Once you put the battery back in and start up the phone, it should automatically boot into CWM Recovery.
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11.) Next we want to do a COMPLETE WIPE (Factory), also deleting Partition Cache and the Delvik Cache.
12.) Once the phone has been cleansed, you want to make your way to the option "Select ZIP from SD Card" and select the ROM zip file located on the SD Card. Start the Installation.
NOTE: Once you start the installation, your phone will reboot part way through, then will continue the rest of the installation. The total time for this installation could take up to 10 minutes, so please be patient and do not touch the phone!
13.) DONE!! You have now successfully Flashed either Miui or CM7 on your Fascinate!.
14.) Actually, one more Step which I have ONLY tested with Miui 1.11.11:
Once you have checked a few things out, we are going to want to Flash the Glitch-V13-DEV-TelusFascinate+ kernel. So boot back into CWM Recovery and Flash it the same way you flashed the ROM.
Optional:
BASEBAND UPDATE:
I would also suggest Flashing the I9000UGJK3 Baseband or another of your liking because I had crappy cell signal with the Stock Miui Baseband. Just download it as you normally would, move the ZIP to the internal SD Card, boot into CMW recovery and flash it. Click on the Link Here and find the modem that you would like to flash.
4WAYREBOOT MOD:
I think this Mod is a MUST for anyone running Miui, it completes it!! It basically adds the additional reboot options like Recovery, Hotboot, etc. to the 'reboot' list when going to reboot the phone. Install the ZIP the same way as usual, through CWM recovery. Download the 4-Way Reboot Mod Here.
ENJOY!!!!
I will add to this post with some additional and helpful information.
Other helpful information:
- With Miui or CM7, you will want to install the ROM Manager Application. It contains a bunch of additional downloads and is a must when using Miui or CM7.
- Please do NOT USE 'ROM manager' Backup option to create a nandroid. To create a backup, boot into CWM recovery normally via ROM manager or if you have the 4-Way Reboot mod installed. Just don't use the 'Backup option' in ROM Manager
- I haven't tried Launcher Pro yet, I've actually stuck with the Stock Launcher that Miui comes with, Launcher2.apk

thanks so much! save me tinkering time

Thanks! On my to do!
EDIT - thinking about this on the way into work. Should we include a step (if the complete wipe doesn't do it) to wipe the battery stats? Could be done in CWM after flashing the ROM, or through an app like battery calibration on boot up. Also, we should note on the coming from froyo that you only need speed kernel if you do not have an option to get CWM. When I ran froyo I had a voodoo kernel so could get to CWM that way.
Also, is miui EXT4 out of the box (no need for a lagfix)? Given its next to latest GB I'm assuming it is
Just some thoughts - hoping to do this tonight, but one quick question for the group - flashing - so do you all make sure you have a full battery before you flash? I've not always done that in the past, but believe its a best practice.
NEW EDIT - almost forgot, great work as always Adam!

jpmccarthy said:
Thanks! On my to do!
EDIT - thinking about this on the way into work. Should we include a step (if the complete wipe doesn't do it) to wipe the battery stats? Could be done in CWM after flashing the ROM, or through an app like battery calibration on boot up. Also, we should note on the coming from froyo that you only need speed kernel if you do not have an option to get CWM. When I ran froyo I had a voodoo kernel so could get to CWM that way.
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Thanks Jeff, the Voodoo kernel should also work as well. In regards to wiping the battery, I never did but it might be a good idea just in case. I haven't run into any issues as of yet. (knock on wood)
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Also, is miui EXT4 out of the box (no need for a lagfix)? Given its next to latest GB I'm assuming it is
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Not 100% sure on this at the moment, but I do know that there is no need for Lagfix with Miui or CM7.
jpmccarthy said:
Just some thoughts - hoping to do this tonight, but one quick question for the group - flashing - so do you all make sure you have a full battery before you flash? I've not always done that in the past, but believe its a best practice.
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It definitely is good practice to Flash a new ROM when the battery is almost 100% full. Now saying that, I have flashed ROMS when my battery has been as low as 40% - 45% and never had any issues.

I think that's the best comment Adam - why apply a lagfix if one is not needed!
Cannot wait to give this a run - hoping tonight assuming my little ones all go to bed, and my wife does not get too annoyed with me

[MIUI Themes and Lock Screens]
The Miui Rom is very customizable when it comes to themes and lock screens.
The Miui 'Themes' application allows you to download, install, customize and apply all different types of themes. Which I would have to say that there are at least a good 100 + or more themes out there at the moment.
I think the best feature that the 'Themes' app has to offer is that you have the option to apply different theme components to the current base theme that you have it set to!
As an example, I currently have one of the 'Honeycomb' themes applied as my base theme, my Lockscreen is based off the 'Slide Slip' theme, my Icon Set is based off the 'Seemless Dark Blue' theme and my Dialer is also based off the 'Seemless Dark Blue' theme. It feels like the possibilities are endless now when it comes to customization.
To see the different components the way the themes are broken down, choose 'Edit Theme' from within the 'Themes' app. Within here you can then assign other theme components as long as you with have the full theme installed or just that one component.
Installation of .mtz files, (Full Themes / Theme components)
Once you have downloaded a compatible Miui theme (.mtz format), copy that file to the following directory on your phone:
/sdcard/MIUI/theme
(You can also import themes from the themes application itself, all that does it move it to that directory for you)
Then open up the 'Themes' app and your new theme will be in the list.
NOTE:
If its a theme component only (Still .mtz format) , eg. Lock Screen component, it WILL NOT show up in your main Theme list. Just click on 'Edit Theme' and it should show up under the drop down for 'Lockscreen Style'. Get what i mean?
For Miui Lockscreens, check out the link below!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288096
For full Miui themes, check out the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249352
Also, the Theme app has an Online library that you can search through as well
Cheers!

<drool> awesomeness <\drool>
EDIT flashing in process - factory reset at the moment

Awesome! Thanks for creating this. Just gotta wait until the weekend to take the plunge. It's not the flashing taking too long that I worry about, but the time I spend restoring apps and settings and just playing around in general. Not to mention having time to start over if I feel something went wrong. Two more days to go!

guessing it shouldn't boot loop - I'm stuck in a boot loop
looks like it cannot find the SD card - so keep restarting looking for the miui zip - the CWM error is quick before it restarts (can't see it)
EDIT : re-downloaded the zip but same effect. Anyone hit this before with cm7 or miui? trying a few things before I attempt a restore.
I get to 'checking bml' before it reboots, and then it boot loops continuously - I tried flashing and not flashing the glitch kernel first, but nothing sticks.
EDIT : giving up, attempting a restore of my nandroid I made before I started. Any tips let me know - disappointed.
EDIT : still up, backup didn't go so well - likely cause I have odd kernels - one last ditch - went right back to froyo stock, tried speedmod (bootloop), now put on 9.2, rebooting - may give it one more shot before giving up for the night.
EDIT - SON OF A ***** - that did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I might have to provide some troubleshooting tips on that one!!!!!!!!
EDIT AGAIN - knock on wood here - I'm farther than the bootloop and I'm at a MIUI splash screen - that might be as far as I go tonight ... LOL
FINAL EDIT - so not much playing tonight. Ate into that with all this trouble shooting.
SO IF YOU ARE COMING FROM A GB ROM AND GET STUCK IN A BOOTLOOP - I would go to STOCK FROYO and then flash 9.2 and then follow the instructions. Bang on job Adam! I think I just had something odd on my phone.
I'm now up - gltich on + miui.

Wow, sorry you had such a hard time man. Only time I hit a hard bootloop was when trying to install CM7 using gingerbread bootloaders. Did you eventually get it going??
Sent from my Telus T959D

iwebsource said:
Wow, sorry you had such a hard time man. Only time I hit a hard bootloop was when trying to install CM7 using gingerbread bootloaders. Did you eventually get it going??
Sent from my Telus T959D
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yeah, see my last edits - putting on 9.2 I'm guessing didn't completely adjust the bootloaders - when I put on stock telus 2.1, THEN 9.2 - I was golden.
Didn't play much (that was after 12) but restored a few apps - but man, it is really fast. Will report some thoughts over the weekend likely.

Questions on MIUI
OK a few questions.
- downloaded google maps (navigation, etc). Start it up, but it fails miserably - bombs out and goes into a constant vibration. ANyone having similar issues with that? Suggestions?
- There's a 6 digit number in the left corner of my screen - no meaning to me - anyone know what that is or seeing something similar?
- also, pinch and zoom with the camera. Those don't seem to work - any issues you folks having with that?
- Adam you suggest a different base band - where are you getting zip - I'm only finding large tars on that link (but I"m over tired)
- The OTA updater looks great BUT is in chinese - any one have a work around for that?

Again, sorry about all the issues you had with installing and such. My very first time
jpmccarthy said:
OK a few questions.
- downloaded google maps (navigation, etc). Start it up, but it fails miserably - bombs out and goes into a constant vibration. ANyone having similar issues with that? Suggestions?
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Weird man, I actually installed google maps a few days ago. First time I used it (Navigation) was yesterday to test out the GPS. Had no problems at all with the apps yet.
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- There's a 6 digit number in the left corner of my screen - no meaning to me - anyone know what that is or seeing something similar?
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That is your Service Provider. With CM7 and Miui, I noticed it doesn't resolve the provider. Its no harm unless you don't like looking at numbers there. I did find a work around though, just install the Miui Extended Menu Mod and you can change it to what ever you want:
http://forums.miuiandroid.com/showthread.php?7738-MOD-Extended-Settings-Menu-Options
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- also, pinch and zoom with the camera. Those don't seem to work - any issues you folks having with that?
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Pinch and Zoom? Unsure what you mean, is that just the touch-point focus? If not I haven't tested that yet.
jpmccarthy said:
- Adam you suggest a different base band - where are you getting zip - I'm only finding large tars on that link (but I"m over tired)
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Guess I better check my links more better. Stupid site.
For now use this one. I know your in the same geo area as me, I haven't had any issues with this one, use the one attached.

Oh, don't use the OTA updater, just use ROM Manager. Or download the Miui updater app from the market.
I'm guessing MIUI originally was developed in China, lol

iwebsource said:
Oh, don't use the OTA updater, just use ROM Manager. Or download the Miui updater app from the market.
I'm guessing MIUI originally was developed in China, lol
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OK - maybe I should reflash. I actually have ROM Mgr premium - but its telling me I need CWM installed to work (which I obviously have).
And no apologies needed - we're all guinea pigs here
EDIT - Also, on the camera - used to be able to pinch like a website on Darky's to zoom in and out. Maybe that was a custom camera but I think it was generally samsung stock.
EDIT - Reflashed (1.11.18 actually - am I the first ) and GPS issue solved - might have been tied to the modem as I flashed yours Adam (THANK YOU!!!!!!) Keeping moving forward

jpmccarthy said:
OK - maybe I should reflash. I actually have ROM Mgr premium - but its telling me I need CWM installed to work (which I obviously have).
And no apologies needed - we're all guinea pigs here
EDIT - Also, on the camera - used to be able to pinch like a website on Darky's to zoom in and out. Maybe that was a custom camera but I think it was generally samsung stock.
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Might be the best thing to do. I've read that some people prefer to >> Flash the ROM first >> Flash Kernel >> Boot into Kernel CWM >> Re-Flash ROM again.
Yeah, if you do there is no need for the Darky steps anymore.
Just boot into CWM, do factory wipe, partition and dalvik cache, fix permissions, then flash miui again.
Oh, in regards to ROM Manager and CWM, just select 'Flash ClockWorkMod Recovery' >> Select I9000 (MTA) and choose version 3.
Then reboot into recovery to test.
It actually still uses the Glitch CWM from the Kernel. This is just so that ROM Manager will recognize that you have a selected CWM

Looks like Miui 1.11.18 is now out. I'm going to Flash and test it out shortly.

iwebsource said:
Looks like Miui 1.11.18 is now out. I'm going to Flash and test it out shortly.
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Already on it - best you for the FIRST time!

jpmccarthy said:
Already on it - best you for the FIRST time!
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I'm loving Miui and the glitch kernel man. There are a few other Kernels out there that we can try as well. I maybe testing the platypus kernel out soon, it is also built for our phone too
From what I've read so far though, Glitch is one of the best so far.

iwebsource said:
I'm loving Miui and the glitch kernel man. There are a few other Kernels out there that we can try as well. I maybe testing the platypus kernel out soon, it is also built for our phone too
From what I've read so far though, Glitch is one of the best so far.
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when you get 1.11.18, go to ROM manager and select update ROM - does nothing happen? I have it registered now with a CWM which is fine, it shows my current version (which is latest) so when I click check for udpates nothing happens (no - 'no update available' or anything like that). Just wanted to see if it was working correctly.

Bionix 1.3.1 to ICS

Can someone please explain to me how to go from Bionix 1.3.1 to ICS? I have read a lot (perhaps too much) about GB bootloaders, etc. but am not sure what is required.
Do I need to have a GB ROM installed before going to ICS?
I have also seen guides for going from 2.1 to ICS, but that is not my situation.
I guess my main area of ignorance is that I have never flashed any bootloader of any kind.
If I go to ICS and want to restore my Froyo backup do I need to flash a bootloader before I do that?
Obviously I'm confused about the whole process.
Thanks for any clarification you can give me.

See my guide to go from 2.1 to ICS and one if the top lines tells you how to go from Froyo to ICS.
GB bootloaders are no longer needed but suggested. Probably the only scary part of the whole process, but it is actually the easiest.

CM7 needed before ICS or not?
From a post in the same thread as your guide:
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If you want a stable 2.2 try Toxic8 (I run this with Gingerbread theme as my "home" ROM when I am not testing), Deranged9, Bionix (no longer supported) and Bionix Fishman's version (this is supported), Bi-winning. All you have to do to flash these is follow the instructions above and when it comes time to flashCM7, skip it and flash the ROM of your choice."
Does this mean that if I have Bionix already that I don't need to go to CM7 before ICS?

There are a couple of ICS Roms where you can come from froyo. You have to probably flash it twice to get into the specific cwm.
To get back to you bionix, you have to use Odin to get back to stock.

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From a post in the same thread as your guide:
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If you want a stable 2.2 try Toxic8 (I run this with Gingerbread theme as my "home" ROM when I am not testing), Deranged9, Bionix (no longer supported) and Bionix Fishman's version (this is supported), Bi-winning. All you have to do to flash these is follow the instructions above and when it comes time to flashCM7, skip it and flash the ROM of your choice."
Does this mean that if I have Bionix already that I don't need to go to CM7 before ICS?
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This is from a different thread in a different context. Someone was asking how to flash a custom ROM, IIRC.
If you want ICS, you have to flash CM7 first, let it bootloop, pull the battery, reflash and then once it settles, flash ICS.
Also, don't apologize for being detailed or thinking that you are reading into too much, Wished more were like this.
From the Guide
This is for a clean install. You can also install straight from Froyo. Just start at the CM7 part below and skip the Odin portion.
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so any luck with getting to ICS from bionix 1.3.1...cause im still in the same spot...and im very wary as to what to do as well...so if any luck...please let me what you did...

I just did it
If you follow the instructions in the Passion ICS thread it's pretty straightforward. I had never used Odin before even though I had flashed Bionix almost a year ago. I'm not a phone guru, just somebody who likes to mess with these custom ROMs.
These steps are high level, you can find specific links in numerous places.
Here's what I did:
- Download Odin
- Download the required files to flash the phone back to stock 2.1 (.pit file and .tar file)
- Backup apps with Titanium (don't bother backing up the system it's different in newer versions anyway and all you'll have is trouble if you try to restore system settings)
- Backup anything else you feel is important on your internal and external SD cards
- Use Odin to flash the phone back to stock
- Root the phone (using the update.zip technique)
- Install clockwork recovery (I found an update.zip for this too)
- Flash the Cyanogenmod version of ICS (no longer under development but you need it for the boot loaders). You will likely encounter a boot loop in this process. Don't panic, just pull the battery once it loops a few times. Boot back into recovery and flash again.
- From this point you can now flash ICS using clockwork, following this you can restore your apps with Titanium if desired
ICS totally rocks by the way. I've been using Passion v13 RC1 for a week now. Tried the newest one Euphoria but it didn't work out for me.

I have to admit that I never tried ICS. I have been using an ICS theme for a long time so my phone looks like it has ICS on it. I was also leary of the mute/unmute problem I had read about and wasn't sure about how well good GPS was.

I've been testing out the ICS that is to become CM9 with the latest build being 16 found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1503038
It's really stable... granted not everything is implemented such as a number of the settings screens. But I was on CM7 when I installed it so I was able to just flash it direct.

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If you follow the instructions in the Passion ICS thread it's pretty straightforward. I had never used Odin before even though I had flashed Bionix almost a year ago. I'm not a phone guru, just somebody who likes to mess with these custom ROMs.
These steps are high level, you can find specific links in numerous places.
Here's what I did:
- Download Odin
- Download the required files to flash the phone back to stock 2.1 (.pit file and .tar file)
- Backup apps with Titanium (don't bother backing up the system it's different in newer versions anyway and all you'll have is trouble if you try to restore system settings)
- Backup anything else you feel is important on your internal and external SD cards
- Use Odin to flash the phone back to stock
- Root the phone (using the update.zip technique)
- Install clockwork recovery (I found an update.zip for this too)
- Flash the Cyanogenmod version of ICS (no longer under development but you need it for the boot loaders). You will likely encounter a boot loop in this process. Don't panic, just pull the battery once it loops a few times. Boot back into recovery and flash again.
- From this point you can now flash ICS using clockwork, following this you can restore your apps with Titanium if desired
ICS totally rocks by the way. I've been using Passion v13 RC1 for a week now. Tried the newest one Euphoria but it didn't work out for me.
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This method works great! I used this last week and had some trouble with boot loops. But nothing that can't be fix with removing the battery. I suggest finding the youtube video that is on the ICS Passion thread. The person does it on real time, so you can follow along as you do it.
I love ICS passion. It is as smooth or even smoother than Bionix.

mikesdot said:
so any luck with getting to ICS from bionix 1.3.1...cause im still in the same spot...and im very wary as to what to do as well...so if any luck...please let me what you did...
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Just follow instructions in OP of attached link and your good.
-Download ICZen and place it on your internal sd
-Reboot to Clockwork Recovery
-Perform a wipedata/factory reset
-Go to mounts and storage and format the system partition
-Flash your downloaded ICZ rom file
-From the main menu of recovery, perform a wipedata/factory reset again
-Reboot
-On bootup, give it a few minutes to settle in, reboot and use as normal.
-Enjoy your ICZen!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499455
No need to have GB boots and if you want to go back,odin to stock to reflash Bionix and then your nandroid.
This is a great ICS rom and I'm a huge Bionix fan,with a 1.3.1 and 1.3.1 Fishman final nandroid backup.

I flashed Passion ICS rc13 on 2 Vibrants, one from Bionix 1.3.1 and another from trigger 2.2 and skipped some steps (like GB bootloader) and they are working just fine.
My steps:
1. Wipe data/factory reset
2. Flash CM GB.
3. Wipe data/factory reset
4. Flash Neobuddy ICS
5. Flash kernel.
6. Let the phone boot, sign up and do its setup.
All in all, took maybe 30 minutes first phone and 20 min second phone once I got more comfortable.

bionix 1.31 striaight to CM7 then on to ICS?
Do you have to go back to stock? Why couldn't you just flash to CM7 then go on to ICS? I am on Bionix 1.31 and this process just seems easier.

rblancrt said:
I have to admit that I never tried ICS. I have been using an ICS theme for a long time so my phone looks like it has ICS on it. I was also leary of the mute/unmute problem I had read about and wasn't sure about how well good GPS was.
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I think mute/unmute is hit or miss. But if you are worried about or need GPS, dont flash an ICS rom.
Also, when upgrading fro 2.2 -> 4.0, take out your external sd card prior to that! It might cause a bootloop when flashing the initial CM7 rom. I happened to me and also other people on youtube (where I found out, was the source of the problem)
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licktheback said:
Do you have to go back to stock? Why couldn't you just flash to CM7 then go on to ICS? I am on Bionix 1.31 and this process just seems easier.
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Yep you can, just make sure you make a back up and clear all data

licktheback said:
Do you have to go back to stock? Why couldn't you just flash to CM7 then go on to ICS? I am on Bionix 1.31 and this process just seems easier.
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It's mainly to get rid of any ghosts left from other roms to avoid any bugs not caused from the rom you install and avoid giving a rom a bad review without giving it a clean canvas to start with.
powered by ICS Euphoria

[Q] First time ever that im going to use a custom rom

Allright.. i decided to start using a custom rom, which will be CM9. but because of soo mutch information on this website i dont fully understand anymore what to do, and because im still a noob, i cant post in the original thread of CM9.
I have a Red lens Motorola Defy MB525, found out with catlog that i got the bayer camera module , non branded, stock froyo.
Rooted my defy
nandroid backup with 2nd init , made a copy to my laptop to be completely save.
did backup the apps with titanium backup
also have the app battery calibration so i can fix my battery after the custom rom.
i will write the custom rom when my battery is on atleast 50 percent, so it will not die.
So what do i have to do next?

download the correct ROM, it will come as a .zip
copy it to your sdcard, reboot to 2nd init recovery,
factory reset, and wipe dalvik cache from advanced menu.
then in recovery choose install zip from sdcard, choose your ROM.zip, install,
reboot, it will take pretty long until it boots first time because system is rebuilding the dalvik. (~5min)

Wow , thats sounds way more simple then i can find on this site.
Ill try it tommorow night! any further suggestions?

Maybe you should try multiboot first just to be on the safe side.

what is multiboot and how can i do that?

Multiboot is basically the possibility to have two or more different ROMs (e.g. CM7 and CM9) installed at the same time and when you boot up you can choose which ROM you want to use. But it is a bit complicated and it wouldn't work with stock Froyo as one of the ROMs I think.
More suggestions? You should also download the latest gapps from http://goo.im/gapps and put the zip on your sd card as well. After wiping and installing the CM9 Nightly from sd go to install zip from sd again and choose the gapps .zip. After that you can reboot the system.
The gapps are the Google Apps (i.e. Play Store and some more) and without them you can't even setup your Google Account, download apps, use Gmail etc.

Ah thanks for that! downloaded it and saved it to my desktop for now.
Still need to figure out which rom i need to choose.. the epsylon?

regenboognl said:
Ah thanks for that! downloaded it and saved it to my desktop for now.
Still need to figure out which rom i need to choose.. the epsylon?
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That would be good. Try it out and see if it suits your requirements..There are many ROM's for froyo kernel. You can try those and see which suits you best.
Happy Modding.

yeaaay! Thanks for all the great help, it worked perfect and was really easy to do!
Cant wait till all the apps are back on my phone from the backups that i made and then let the modding begin! haha
- running Epsylon CM9!

regenboognl said:
yeaaay! Thanks for all the great help, it worked perfect and was really easy to do!
Cant wait till all the apps are back on my phone from the backups that i made and then let the modding begin! haha
- running Epsylon CM9!
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Congratulations, have fun with ICS on your Defy!

Questions go in the Q&A section

Been awhile, quick question regarding ICS now

So I've been out of the loop for awhile... since I've been using TeamWhiskey's Bionix and loving it - keeping it simple.
Firmware - 2.2
Kernel 2.6.32.9
Build - Bionix 1.3.1
Now, if I want to install an ICS ROM, do I have to ODIN or something along those lines to factory?
I'm lost again with all the kernel talk along with firmware version, etc.
Essentially I'm considering ICS CyanogenMod 9.
Thanks.

If you're going from froyo to ics you don't need to Odin. You can just flash over it. But turn voodoo off!
If you decide to go back to froyo you do need to Odin.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk 2

You don't have to Odin back to stock, but it's highly recommended.
Most of the ROMs have instructions on what to do for installing them but whenever I decide to test out an ICS ROM I do the following (in addition to the usual nandroid, app, and data backups):
1) Disable Voodoo lagfix
2) Perform a wipedata/factory reset
3) Format the system partition
4) Flash the ROM
5) Perform a wipedata/factory reset again
6) Clean the cache and dalvik
7) Fix Permissions
8) Reboot
You should also consider loading up the Gingerbread bootloaders using Odin before flashing an ICS ROM as well.
I also usually format the internal SD from the current ROM I'm running (Settings->SD card and phone storage) after I complete all my backups. I like starting out with as clean a slate as possible, but doing that is not necessary.
I hope you've seen the threads about the encryption unsuccessful error that can happen with the ICS ROMs, but I'll remphasize that you need to backup all your important data that's on your internal SD before you try to flash. It's not that you can't get your phone back, but that internal SD will be useless if you're unlucky enough to get that message.
PS: Read up on ICZen if you're thinking about flashing ICS. It has very active support, and is specifically for the Vibrant.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/21742-romimm76i-iczen-184-6-25-12-deficient-development/

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1464423
everything you need to know.

Its alot easier than the bad old days, prepare to have your mind officially blown, you'll never go back. Enjoy.

Thanks everyone, really appreciate the replies.
I'll take my time on this one, don't want to mess anything up.