Hello, I'm using Mdeejay Froyo Sense 2.4 with hastarin 7.1 kernel.
I noticed that when I'm charging the battery in Android it never goes to 100%. It reaches 96-97%, voltage goes to 4.197V and the led stays red. If, after that, I restart the phone, both in WinMo and in Android, the indicator shows 100% and the led is green.
I'm worried if the battery charging is performed correctly in Android.
I would be glad to read your opinions on that.
Thanks!
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In the hyperdroid thread there is a command to "calibrate" your battery or something.
Turn your phone completely off. Charge to full - green led instead of amber. Boot back up and restart android. You should be good to go.
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jdwrrzmm said:
In the hyperdroid thread there is a command to "calibrate" your battery or something.
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jelliottz said:
Turn your phone completely off. Charge to full - green led instead of amber. Boot back up and restart android. You should be good to go.
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Both of these are good advices; and remember when switching from build to build, you'll probably have to do this a few times.
u most likely have an extended battery ... it configures itself to your other battery , thats why its telling you that ... btw , it does charge too full battery (4.197v) only the % value is wrong
oi. hasnt this been answered 1111111 times by now? ..please people use the search feature, its not just a pretty button.
Thanks!
Thanks to all of you for the advices!
souljaboy said:
u most likely have an extended battery ... it configures itself to your other battery , thats why its telling you that ... btw , it does charge too full battery (4.197v) only the % value is wrong
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To souljaboy: No I'm using the original battery.
malaeus said:
oi. hasnt this been answered 1111111 times by now? ..please people use the search feature, its not just a pretty button.
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To malaeus: I used the pretty search button, but I didn't find anything similar, maybe because I didn't include the word 'calibrate' (I didn't know that I'll have to "calibrate" the battery). And if you had read my whole post, you probably would had noticed that this is only the first part of it. I also wrote that: "I'm worried if the battery charging is performed correctly in Android. I would be glad to read your opinions on that."
So, with no offence, I think you overreacted a little bit.
Thanks!
The full charge battery voltage is not 4.197 it is 4.202
LI-ION charges to 4.2 volts, this is 70% of full charge, after this a "Topping Charge" is applied, this can take longer than the original charge to 70%
once the battery stops absorbing charge current this is when the battery is 100%
I would suggest using "Current Widget" to observe this, android will often state a 100% charge when the battery reaches 4.202 volts, but current widget continues to show a charge current, wait until its below 50mah or so then unplug the charger, delete the batterystats.bin and reboot the phone, that should calibrate android perfectly.
If you can live with your phone turned off for a while, delete the batterystats.bin and shutdown, then charge with the phone off. this will perform a total and complete charge with full topping charge.
Just one bit of advice... do not leave your phone on the charger all night every single night after getting a perfect calibration like this, having a LI-ION battery sitting on 4.2 volts for like 7 to 8 hours a day will simply kill the battery in under a year if not within 8 months.
Visentinel said:
The full charge battery voltage is not 4.197 it is 4.202
LI-ION charges to 4.2 volts, this is 70% of full charge, after this a "Topping Charge" is applied, this can take longer than the original charge to 70%
once the battery stops absorbing charge current this is when the battery is 100%
I would suggest using "Current Widget" to observe this, android will often state a 100% charge when the battery reaches 4.202 volts, but current widget continues to show a charge current, wait until its below 50mah or so then unplug the charger, delete the batterystats.bin and reboot the phone, that should calibrate android perfectly.
If you can live with your phone turned off for a while, delete the batterystats.bin and shutdown, then charge with the phone off. this will perform a total and complete charge with full topping charge.
Just one bit of advice... do not leave your phone on the charger all night every single night after getting a perfect calibration like this, having a LI-ION battery sitting on 4.2 volts for like 7 to 8 hours a day will simply kill the battery in under a year if not within 8 months.
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Very informative! Thank you very much!
Is my battery or adapter getting broken? I did both types of calibration and I never saw a value bigger than 4.197V. Even when I fully charged the phone while off and booted to Android the indicator was at 4.154V.
Otherwise, when fully charged, the battery lasts in Android almost as much as in WinMo - 40-48 hours.
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Visentinel said:
The full charge battery voltage is not 4.197 it is 4.202
LI-ION charges to 4.2 volts, this is 70% of full charge, after this a "Topping Charge" is applied, this can take longer than the original charge to 70%
once the battery stops absorbing charge current this is when the battery is 100%
I would suggest using "Current Widget" to observe this, android will often state a 100% charge when the battery reaches 4.202 volts, but current widget continues to show a charge current, wait until its below 50mah or so then unplug the charger, delete the batterystats.bin and reboot the phone, that should calibrate android perfectly.
If you can live with your phone turned off for a while, delete the batterystats.bin and shutdown, then charge with the phone off. this will perform a total and complete charge with full topping charge.
Just one bit of advice... do not leave your phone on the charger all night every single night after getting a perfect calibration like this, having a LI-ION battery sitting on 4.2 volts for like 7 to 8 hours a day will simply kill the battery in under a year if not within 8 months.
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-same here. Thanks. Very informative. I noticed it when i reach 95%, it is still charging but the rate becomes lower until it returns to my normal reading (full).
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Thanks for the info! I never charge my battery in Android, but I noticed, that percentage indicator readings is different between Android and WM.
One more thing, I searched for "calibrate" in HyperDorid thread, and here is what I found "charge full in windows then remove battery and charge full in android to calibrate..."
I do not get it. How can I boot Android without battery, and how can I charge already charged battery?
I copied this from another thread here, it has worked for me well.
Fully Charge while Device is Off before first boot, then upon first boot go to terminal and enter these (without the quotes) and press enter after every line.
"su"
"rm /data/system/batterystats.bin"
Ensure that Keypad Lights are on when Haret is launched and you will be healed.
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Silencer23 said:
I copied this from another thread here, it has worked for me well.
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Hey that sounds familiar, lol
Haha is this yours ? I saved it on a txt
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Haha is this yours ? I saved it on a txt
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That was my post yeah. my complete tutorial is here:http://leoandroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=212&t=168
I got one for reversing the whole android process too. Im working on more install, tweaks, and any other usefull HD2 info.Ill be posting all of them there
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Is it just me or everyone else that is experiencing a super long time in charging their phone to full battery? I am running the froyostone latest build and I have already followed all the guides in this forum to save battery life. The issue I am having is that it takes many hours to recharge the battery to full when connected to a wall charger.
It took 5 hours to go from 30% battery to 90%.
*no i wasn't charging the phone with the phone turn off*
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Is it just me or everyone else that is experiencing a super long time in charging their phone to full battery? I am running the froyostone latest build and I have already followed all the guides in this forum to save battery life. The issue I am having is that it takes many hours to recharge the battery to full when connected to a wall charger.
It took 5 hours to go from 30% battery to 90%.
*no i wasn't charging the phone with the phone turn off*
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I have a stock battery, which I can charge from 25% or less to 100% in about 30 minutes to an hour. I think there is something wrong with your charger.
its actually not taking that long, it probably got to 90% VERY quickly, you just checked on it later... they're false numbers... what you need to do is this; run your battery all the way down.. then charge it for about 1-2hrs, until it gets somewhere in the 90's then, while plugged in, shut the phone down, remove the battery, put the battery back in, boot up the phone (the phone should remain plugged in) then load up WM, load up android with the hard buttons backlight on, then once it boots you should show higher than what you had before (if not 100%) from this point android will remember your charge and you will be able to go to 100% all the time now. (until you load a new rom)
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I have a stock battery, which I can charge from 25% or less to 100% in about 30 minutes to an hour. I think there is something wrong with your charger.
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I got stock battery also. No idea why it taking so long.
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its actually not taking that long, it probably got to 90% VERY quickly, you just checked on it later... they're false numbers... what you need to do is this; run your battery all the way down.. then charge it for about 1-2hrs, until it gets somewhere in the 90's then, while plugged in, shut the phone down, remove the battery, put the battery back in, boot up the phone (the phone should remain plugged in) then load up WM, load up android with the hard buttons backlight on, then once it boots you should show higher than what you had before (if not 100%) from this point android will remember your charge and you will be able to go to 100% all the time now. (until you load a new rom)
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I have already tried this but still no luck.
10507 said:
I have a stock battery, which I can charge from 25% or less to 100% in about 30 minutes to an hour. I think there is something wrong with your charger.
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What kernel are you using?
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What kernel are you using?
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I am using hastarin r8 kernel, but I was experiencing the same issue with previous versions and the default kernel.
I just tested the charging rate by connecting my HD2 to a stock charger from HTC which I borrowed from a friend. Charging was a lot faster.
Since I bought my HD2 used, the charger that came with it, is not the stock charger from HTC.
But I still don't understand what is causing the charging to be very slow.
How to calculate charging time
Charging time = capacity of battery x 1,4 / charging current
HD2 stock battery= 1230mAh x 1,4 / 1000mA = 1,7 hours
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Two things on charging batteries:
1) First, make sure none of the pins in the battery compartment is bent. This dramatically slowed charging for me once.
2) Android keeps battery stats in a file that gets loaded with your build. THese stats are often wrong. Be sure to fully charge under WinMo, then with power still attached, boot into Android. This will adjust some of the stats and charging in Android should be fine then. There's a thread somewhere on more details here if you want to tweak your stats. The battery slows down its charging when it gets close to the full state. If for some reason your charger thinks the temperature is getting too high or the state is getting near full it dramatically slows the charging rate. Both of these could be erroneous interpretations of the battery data. Also, if you have an extended battery, make sure to use a Kernel that is compatible with extended batteries, like Hastarin 7.x.
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I just tested the charging rate by connecting my HD2 to a stock charger from HTC which I borrowed from a friend. Charging was a lot faster.
Since I bought my HD2 used, the charger that came with it, is not the stock charger from HTC.
But I still don't understand what is causing the charging to be very slow.
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Not all chargers are built the same. Some usb charger provide more juice while others provide less. Maybe your non stock charger came from a non smart phone...
Zythyr said:
Is it just me or everyone else that is experiencing a super long time in charging their phone to full battery? I am running the froyostone latest build and I have already followed all the guides in this forum to save battery life. The issue I am having is that it takes many hours to recharge the battery to full when connected to a wall charger.
It took 5 hours to go from 30% battery to 90%.
*no i wasn't charging the phone with the phone turn off*
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Current Widget from the Market can tell you how many mA your phone is getting when it's charging.
this is just an approximation formula. a lithium ion battery charger is more sophisticated than this. it first brings battery voltage up to 20% safely (because any voltage below this is the harmful zone of operation), then it stuffs the battery at full capacity upto 80%. then in the 3rd stage, the current drops linearly with time.
over the past year, my stock battery gives me the following profile:
20-80% -> 1 hour (800-820ma constant, unless phone is awake)
80-100% -> 1 hour (800 -> 0ma)
by 100% i mean 0ma charge current. not 100% on the battery icon. you should be aware that the battery is still charging even after the indicator reaches 100%. but the current is insignificant (10-20ma)
even though the charger is rated at 5v 1A, it supplies only 820ma current at the maximum. this is normal. also for a lion battery the safe operating regions are around 20-90%. by safe i mean prolonging battery life. this roughly corresponds to 3.6v - 4.0v. avoid overcharging your battery frequently.
also someone mentioned current widget as a good approximate tool to study battery performance. you might also want to delete batterystats.bin and condition your battery once (i.e. fully discharge and fully recharge). this will force android to re-determine the new 0% and 100% levels. search the android forums for this.
hope this helps.
leehobin said:
Charging time = capacity of battery x 1,4 / charging current
HD2 stock battery= 1230mAh x 1,4 / 1000mA = 1,7 hours
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silenced3 said:
this is just an approximation formula. a lithium ion battery charger is more sophisticated than this. it first brings battery voltage up to 20% safely (because any voltage below this is the harmful zone of operation), then it stuffs the battery at full capacity upto 80%. then in the 3rd stage, the current drops linearly with time.
over the past year, my stock battery gives me the following profile:
20-80% -> 1 hour (800-820ma constant, unless phone is awake)
80-100% -> 1 hour (800 -> 0ma)
by 100% i mean 0ma charge current. not 100% on the battery icon. you should be aware that the battery is still charging even after the indicator reaches 100%. but the current is insignificant (10-20ma)
even though the charger is rated at 5v 1A, it supplies only 820ma current at the maximum. this is normal. also for a lion battery the safe operating regions are around 20-90%. by safe i mean prolonging battery life. this roughly corresponds to 3.6v - 4.0v. avoid overcharging your battery frequently.
also someone mentioned current widget as a good approximate tool to study battery performance. you might also want to delete batterystats.bin and condition your battery once (i.e. fully discharge and fully recharge). this will force android to re-determine the new 0% and 100% levels. search the android forums for this.
hope this helps.
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wow ! thanks alot !
Is it bad to let my charge over night overnight? I thought it would stop charging when it got full to avoid overhanging.
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Since I have access to a a battery simulator and charger... the best way to recondition a battery is:
1. Create a low battery scenario by lowering the input voltage to just a hair above 2.7 volts (I had to create a shim to get to the battery receiver leads).
2. Boot with full 4.2 and in ClockWork remove battery stats
3. Drain and Charge battery to 4.2
I get enterprise email and I get a lot of mail daily that I have to read and respond to (150 or more -- no I don't respond to all of them), plus the phone calls, RSS reading and some texting plus a pic here and there and maybe a couple of you tube videos. I get more than 24 hours until the 15 % comes up. 50 hours would be nice but that did not even happen in my black berry with Edge only.
Mine improve 3 fold from sub 7 hours to 24 plus (yes I sleep late so probably the phone gets a 6 hour rest but the enterprise email and text is pushed down even then as I work with folks from Asia and Europe as well.
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Since I have access to a a battery simulator and charger... the best way to recondition a battery is:
1. Create a low battery scenario by lowering the input voltage to just a hair above 2.7 volts (I had to create a shim to get to the battery receiver leads).
2. Boot with full 4.2 and in ClockWork remove battery stats
3. Drain and Charge battery to 4.2
I get enterprise email and I get a lot of mail daily that I have to read and respond to (150 or more -- no I don't respond to all of them), plus the phone calls, RSS reading and some texting plus a pic here and there and maybe a couple of you tube videos. I get more than 24 hours until the 15 % comes up. 50 hours would be nice but that did not even happen in my black berry with Edge only.
Mine improve 3 fold from sub 7 hours to 24 plus (yes I sleep late so probably the phone gets a 6 hour rest but the enterprise email and text is pushed down even then as I work with folks from Asia and Europe as well.
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How do I create a low battery scenario by lowering the input voltage to just a hair above 2.7 volts?
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Is it bad to let my charge over night overnight? I thought it would stop charging when it got full to avoid overhanging.
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Yes, the "charger" that you plug into the wall is just a power supply, the actual "charger" is in the phone, and when it detects the battery is full it stops charging.
[Q] Wifi Tether: Subject to $15 T-Mobile Charge?
Curious about this. Currently I'm connected to my laptop for the past 15 min just fine; no alert came up that said I had to get the $15 fee that T-Mobile charges for the "privilege" of tethering on my current plan. Does that mean that an unlocked phone isn't subject to T-Mobile's tampering?
If so, is this the only value for rooting right now? I don't see any other need for root with this phone except if it fools T-Mobile.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
I know there are numerous threads about battery life, but this one isn't about the life itself really.
I can charge my phone to 100%, but when I unplug it, the battery indicator shows 97% right away. I plug it back in, rinse and repeat, and get the same issue. I even tried charging with the phone off.
Ha anyone had luck with using a full 100%?
allen099 said:
I know there are numerous threads about battery life, but this one isn't about the life itself really.
I can charge my phone to 100%, but when I unplug it, the battery indicator shows 97% right away. I plug it back in, rinse and repeat, and get the same issue. I even tried charging with the phone off.
Ha anyone had luck with using a full 100%?
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This is normal, search some threads
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This is normal, search some threads
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I see that some people don't get to 100% during the actual charge process, but haven't seen my issue yet. I'll keep looking. So many of these threads...thanks.
Just trying to figure out whether it's worth going back for another phone or battery. What would you do?
Id keep it, there was an article posted in one of the threads stating why phones do this...the N1 did a similar thing where after it charged going from 100-96 percent went really quickly
i would equate it when you buy a 16 gig SD card and it shows as 15.6 gigs
Same thing here... pretty sure it's happening to most people.
Read this: http://byrong.com/PowerTesting/
allen099 said:
I know there are numerous threads about battery life, but this one isn't about the life itself really.
I can charge my phone to 100%, but when I unplug it, the battery indicator shows 97% right away. I plug it back in, rinse and repeat, and get the same issue. I even tried charging with the phone off.
Ha anyone had luck with using a full 100%?
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Mine did this until I calibrated the battery. Charged it to 100%, then drained it all the way. Charged it back up to 100%, and now not only does the battery last longer, but the percentage seems to go down in a more linear fashion.
Read on...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
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brianbrain said:
Mine did this until I calibrated the battery. Charged it to 100%, then drained it all the way. Charged it back up to 100%, and now not only does the battery last longer, but the percentage seems to go down in a more linear fashion.
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Same here, I've done this two nights in a row, but no change.
Thank you for the links, guys. Pretty insightful actually. I've got it charging right now at 99%. As soon as it hits 100%, I'll take it off and see if it drops instantly. I'm guessing it shouldn't as it JUST hit 100%. But we shall see..
Thanks again!
Same issue here afetr the caliberation and all
I really wouldnt worry about it guys, not like magical unicorns are eating your percentages
Well...I mean, it's not something anybody is "worried" about, but it does suck because I use my phone heavily as I'm in the IT field ... so every percentage counts. After I just unplugged, it went to 99% which my N1 did as well. I'm fine with 99%, but 97% seemed a bit low.
Full charge oddity
When the phone has been switched off and charging the phone shows the fully charged icon on screen when charging appears to be done. Battery Indicator Pro displays only a 95% charge when the phone is switched on. The same happens when the phone is on and being usb charged. When 100% charge is shown and the usb cable is removed the charge is then shown as 95%. This does not happen on my other devices running 2.2. They will show 100% or 99%. A device design or 2.3 bug?
Read this whole post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
The epic 4g has this problem. I think its something with samsung. You have to unplug it, plug it back in, let it charge to full again and rinse repeat until its really at 100%
Then reset your battery stats in cwm
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As noted in the stickied FAQ and further discussed in the link provided by nxt (Beat me to it!), this is by design folks.
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Q: I unplugged my phone, and my battery dropped from 100% to 95% immediately, or it won't/takes along time to charge past 99%, what gives?
This is by design. Your phone will slow down and eventually stop pulling charge at or slightly greater than ~95% regardless of what your battery indicator says. This is to extend the overall life of the battery, as constant 100% to 0% charge/discharge cycles will cause it to fail prematurely. If you're interested in really pushing it to 100%, you can use a technique that is called "bump charging" and is better detailed here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/12...battery-drain/
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<- Link has more or less the same info as nxt's.
maybe we need multiple FAQ stickies in this board..
Weird battery reading
My Nexus S was at about 16% when I put it on the charger then I did a quick reboot and it said it was at 52%. I unplugged it, powered off, pulled the battery, then rebooted and it read 28%. Even that is hard to believe after less then 5 minutes of charging. Has this happened to anyone else?
Stock 2.3.1 unrooted
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Has this happened to anyone else?
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Yes, that has been reported by a number of people. It has happened to me as well when rebooting while charging. Nothing is wrong with your battery though, it just must be a battery stats bug.
Good to know. Thank you for the prompt reply
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If you leave ur wirless tethering on while charging, your battery will charge up to 100% and stay 100 even if you take off the charger.
I hope nobody posted this method already
Nice! Ill test that later today
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charging it to 100% will shorten the battery's life.
I know but there were many threads about battery not charging up to 100% so I just decided to help a little)
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charging it to 100% will shorten the battery's life.
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can you provide more info on this?
alexvega said:
can you provide more info on this?
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It wont shorten it thats BS.
sstang2006 said:
charging it to 100% will shorten the battery's life.
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Charging to 100% will not shorten the battery life if any Lithium Ion or lipo battery, but if you discharge past 5% will kill the battery faster. This I know from using the lipo battery's on my big RC Helicopters and that the ESC's have a low voltage cutoff on them to keep from doing damage to the battery. All lipo batterys are built the same so before someone says it is not the same, YES it is!!!
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If you leave ur wirless tethering on while charging, your battery will charge up to 100% and stay 100 even if you take off the charger.
I hope nobody posted this method already
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Already posted, and already shown that it doesn't work...battery still only charges to 96-97%
And there is an issue with the firmware in the Nexus S that prevents it from fully charging to 100% (incorrect voltage cutoff level?). This is NOT a deliberate way to "save" battery life.
Charging to 100% does NOT harm the battery or shorten its life in any way. Li-Ion batteries work best and have a longer total battery life when topped up to 100% regularly.
Thanks for playing today...
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Already posted, and already shown that it doesn't work...battery still only charges to 96-97%
And there is an issue with the firmware in the Nexus S that prevents it from fully charging to 100% (incorrect voltage cutoff level?). This is NOT a deliberate way to "save" battery life.
Charging to 100% does NOT harm the battery or shorten its life in any way. Li-Ion batteries work best and have a longer total battery life when topped up to 100% regularly.
Thanks for playing today...
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hopefully an OTA will fix these issues.
Does anybody have access to a Moment,Instinct HD, Behold II? Charge your Nexus S to 95% and then put battery in one of these phones and see what battery reading you get.
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If you leave ur wirless tethering on while charging, your battery will charge up to 100% and stay 100 even if you take off the charger.
I hope nobody posted this method already
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Doesn't work...sorry.
i believe i heard 2.3.5 will fix this and many other issues we are having.
Another way to fully charge your Nexus S is by switching it off and plug-in it to a wall charger until it finish charging (you will notice that by means of the white battery icon that will show up if you press -just a single touch, do not keep pressing- the power button). Every time I charge my Nexus S this way I get a full 100% battery charge.
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Another way to fully charge your Nexus S is by switching it off and plug-in it to a wall charger until it finish charging (you will notice that by means of the white battery icon that will show up if you press -just a single touch, do not keep pressing- the power button). Every time I charge my Nexus S this way I get a full 100% battery charge.
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ive done this and i never reach 100%. the highest i have gone is 98%.
This is curious. I usually pick my phone in the morning and read some tweets and news before I get up, while the phone is still connected to the charger. When I 1st take it it has about 96-97% but after I use the phone for some time it goes up to 98 or 99%, but never got 100%.
does that 5% really make that much of a difference? maybe it helps the battery to not go to 100%, maybe it doesn't...
but are you really using the battery down to 5% before charging it where it makes that huge of a difference?
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i believe i heard 2.3.5 will fix this and many other issues we are having.
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any real input on this? or just an assumption?
fixxxer2008 said:
i believe i heard 2.3.5 will fix this and many other issues we are having.
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Let me guess... Google told you first?
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guys is better to charge the phone before it is <5% or not?
if you leave the screen on while charging, you can charge it to 100%, i do it a few times a week. as soon as the screen goes off over 95%, it will stop charging, at that point just unplug it, then plug it back in and leave the screen on. itll get to 100%. have patience, itll just takes some time.
Well I decided to do the thing where you charge all the way, turn off, charge again and remove battery stats, my battery wouldn't go above 95% charge even overnight. I decided to drain all the way and then remove battery stats, now it goes to 97%, any ideas? not sure if its just reading wrong or what.
keep reading, there must be over 40 threads about this
It is not reading incorrectly, it's just being honest with you. Please use the search function.
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Well I decided to do the thing where you charge all the way, turn off, charge again and remove battery stats, my battery wouldn't go above 95% charge even overnight. I decided to drain all the way and then remove battery stats, now it goes to 97%, any ideas? not sure if its just reading wrong or what.
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its only supposed to charge to 95-97%. its a feature to help preserve your battery. if you want to see 100%, youll need to bump charge it there or charge the rest of the way with your screen on.
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its only supposed to charge to 95-97%. its a feature to help preserve your battery. if you want to see 100%, youll need to bump charge it there or charge the rest of the way with your screen on.
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What simms said, watching a couple YouTube videos or anything that uses the processor above light usage will make it charge to 100% but I don't know if that's good for your battery .
As for what I know, on Nexus S the maximum charge is 96%. If you get more charge, it can damage your battery. Most of custom ROMs already have this fixed (when it's 96% it would actually display 100%).
Oogway13 said:
As for what I know, on Nexus S the maximum charge is 96%. If you get more charge, it can damage your battery. Most of custom ROMs already have this fixed (when it's 96% it would actually display 100%).
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This must be one of the changes for CM9 nightly for the 4G because for the first time yesterday I saw it showed 100% after taking it off the charger.
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As for what I know, on Nexus S the maximum charge is 96%. If you get more charge, it can damage your battery. Most of custom ROMs already have this fixed (when it's 96% it would actually display 100%).
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bmwjnky said:
This must be one of the changes for CM9 nightly for the 4G because for the first time yesterday I saw it showed 100% after taking it off the charger.
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yup, its only a cosmetic fix. its not a true 100%.
this is normal, the battery charge only 97%. 100% is only cosmetic.
So I thought this was a fluke the first time then I was just able to reproduce the issue again. Once the battery level reaches 20%, the tablet will either shut itself down using the built in shutdown command or will just simply power off as if it doesn't have any power left at all.
I've charged it thoroughly and have even drained the battery down to 1% in the past but this keeps happening now. Any ideas?
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So I thought this was a fluke the first time then I was just able to reproduce the issue again. Once the battery level reaches 20%, the tablet will either shut itself down using the built in shutdown command or will just simply power off as if it doesn't have any power left at all.
I've charged it thoroughly and have even drained the battery down to 1% in the past but this keeps happening now. Any ideas?
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this hasn't happend on my nexus yet but something similar happened to my LG Nitro HD. I basically rooted it and tried some battery calibrating apps on the Play store. In custom recoveries there's also this option to wipe batter status which i think might fix it but i've never tried it.
The battery gauge can be quite inaccurate. From what I have seen, I think Asus cut some corners in calibrating it for the specific battery chemistry - which makes things even worse.
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will just simply power off as if it doesn't have any power left at all.
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It's not as if, there is no power left. The battery gauge simply had a wrong estimate of the remaining charge and suddenly the battery voltage collapses (happens very quickly towards the end of the discharge curve) and the N7 shuts down.
Messing with the battery stats doesn't do anything useful.
If you do a full charge / discharge cycle that may help a little with battery gauge accuracy. The battery gauge does some recalibration when doing that.
After a forced shutdown, fully charge and make sure the tablet sits around fully charged for at least 1h (e.g. just plugging it in over night will do fine). Then do a full discharge cycle with the N7 not plugged in at any time (normal usage will do just fine).
Those battery calibration apps don't anything useful, beyond getting you to run a full charge / discharge cycle.
Never happened on my Nexus 7, which have been taken down to 14% more than 10 times in the last 2 month. If what are suggested above don't work then use this tool to restore stock then Warranty return it or return it to store if you still have time,
Wonder if this is what happened to me last night. Was watching a video and it just shut off like the battery was dead. I wasn't paying attention to the battery but was almost positive it wasn't anywhere near zero yet. Never had the low battery pop up on me either. Hopefully it was a fluke...
there are many battery calibration issues/posts in old N7 forums. it also happened to me once in first couple weeks. what helped, I think, was shutting down the device completely with a little bit of battery left and just keep it unplugged for a few hours. Some say to preventively repeat this exercise every now and then..
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tni.andro said:
The battery gauge can be quite inaccurate. From what I have seen, I think Asus cut some corners in calibrating it for the specific battery chemistry - which makes things even worse.
It's not as if, there is no power left. The battery gauge simply had a wrong estimate of the remaining charge and suddenly the battery voltage collapses (happens very quickly towards the end of the discharge curve) and the N7 shuts down.
Messing with the battery stats doesn't do anything useful.
If you do a full charge / discharge cycle that may help a little with battery gauge accuracy. The battery gauge does some recalibration when doing that.
After a forced shutdown, fully charge and make sure the tablet sits around fully charged for at least 1h (e.g. just plugging it in over night will do fine). Then do a full discharge cycle with the N7 not plugged in at any time (normal usage will do just fine).
Those battery calibration apps don't anything useful, beyond getting you to run a full charge / discharge cycle.
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Never happened on my Nexus 7, which have been taken down to 14% more than 10 times in the last 2 month. If what are suggested above don't work then use this tool to restore stock then Warranty return it or return it to store if you still have time,
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Kohawk09 said:
Wonder if this is what happened to me last night. Was watching a video and it just shut off like the battery was dead. I wasn't paying attention to the battery but was almost positive it wasn't anywhere near zero yet. Never had the low battery pop up on me either. Hopefully it was a fluke...
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millicent said:
there are many battery calibration issues/posts in old N7 forums. it also happened to me once in first couple weeks. what helped, I think, was shutting down the device completely with a little bit of battery left and just keep it unplugged for a few hours. Some say to preventively repeat this exercise every now and then..
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I had tried completely discharging it and then leaving it to charge overnight a handful of times without any luck. I ended up just restoring it to factory state and getting a replacement via Google Play Warranty Support. The new unit works just fine. It's an 07/2013 build unit just like the first one if anyone was interested.
by any chance do you use a qi wireless charger?
I have encountered a weird bug where if I charge my nexus 7 with a qi charger to 100% and leave it on the charger itll screw up the percentage/battery stats. with my situation, itll lock my battery % to 100% and wont go down until i go into twrp. If i just go into twrp and not recalibrate the battery stats, the percentage would be off and my nexus wont show the right %, so my nexus would shut off at random % instead of the normal 1% or 0.
millicent said:
there are many battery calibration issues/posts in old N7 forums. it also happened to me once in first couple weeks. what helped, I think, was shutting down the device completely with a little bit of battery left and just keep it unplugged for a few hours. Some say to preventively repeat this exercise every now and then..
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I can confirm this!
Did help on many devices for me with battery calibration erros...
Last one was a Galaxy S2 last weekend - turned of immediately, showed 0% upon start.
Took battery out for 4 hours, put it back in then and voila... 92% and everythings fine again.
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by any chance do you use a qi wireless charger?
I have encountered a weird bug where if I charge my nexus 7 with a qi charger to 100% and leave it on the charger itll screw up the percentage/battery stats. with my situation, itll lock my battery % to 100% and wont go down until i go into twrp. If i just go into twrp and not recalibrate the battery stats, the percentage would be off and my nexus wont show the right %, so my nexus would shut off at random % instead of the normal 1% or 0.
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No, I do not have a QI charger. I was always using a USB wall charger.