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I have an HW 003 Novatech EVO built on May 19th.
Like many others I want to return my phone for a new one because of the light leakage and screen separation issues.
However, after reading a few posts and confirming my thesis, there is no point in returning your phone now as the replacement will more than likely have the same defects.
I spoke to a Sprint representative today and she recommended doing this: wait until HTC announces they have shipped newer HW models such as 004, or just a new batch with fixed screens.
Again, save yourself the trouble of unrooting, returning, rooting, etc...
Update: HTC has said they have partnered with several different vendors including Sony to make the screens for the new batch of EVOS. You can read an article about the EVO shortages on Buzzbox. I am not allowed to post the link here..
Hmm, I guess perhaps I should not plan on getting another Evo within the next few weeks. I'm reading a lot of bad stories about the Samsung Galaxy, I don't like the look of the Droid X and this iPhone 4 I just got has a small screen that just doesn't do it for me like the Evo's large screen. But I def do not want to get another Evo and have screen issues again. Oh what to do, what to do......
The replacement I received has no screen separation or like leakage issues. Maybe it takes awhile? my other one had it right off the bat.
Plancy said:
The replacement I received has no screen separation or like leakage issues. Maybe it takes awhile? my other one had it right off the bat.
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My launch day Evo had leakage from day one but the screen wasn't rising until about week later. Now When I last cleaned the screen I could feel movement that I hadn't felt in the beginning. The big deal for me is that I don't want to use an Evo for many months and then the glue problem starts and then the device has the chance of becoming something I can't sell on ebay and would probably not want to give away to friends or family with a faulty screen. It would be nice if HTC could just open up and talk about it and explain how they've fixed the problem and how we have nothing to worry about down the road anymore then we would with another touchscreen phone.
AshMa said:
It would be nice if HTC could just open up and talk about it and explain how they've fixed the problem and how we have nothing to worry about down the road anymore then we would with another touchscreen phone.
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Indeed this would be nice. However, HTC is notorious for not responding to the real issues even though they are aware of them.
As we know, not every EVO has these issues; furthermore, not every EVO has these issues right out of the box. My EVO had no problems until about a 2 weeks after use.
I would recommend playing it safe and just waiting for a newer batch from HTC and then exchange your phone.
We will all probably end up better off
These threads really are not helping my O.C.D.
Hope you guys get everything squared away with your phones. Sucks to hear that the problems can occur even a few weeks down the road
Thats why i'm glad I have an accidental damage warranty. My screen has no separation issues but if it ever does I have a feeling I might accidentally drop this one.
I as well am paying for the warranty, 7$ a month. There is still a 100$ deductible on the new phone.
I've heard screen separation a lot with the novs
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I ordered online (sprint.com) launch day, and got a 002 with screen separation, called 2 weeks ago when sprint.com had some in stock, they made me verify the problem at a local sprint authorized reseller (nearest corporate store is 3hrs away) and by the time i got it verified and called Order Support back they were sold out, they sent me the return kit (i have to return it by August 1) yet its been almost 2 weeks since then and they havent had any in stock to ship me a replacement. Its a little ridiculous as i need to get the replacement through sprint.com, and they are never in stock. I'm terrified of just getting another broken one and having to go through this fiasco again.
If you have screen separation issues, try gently heating the edges of the screen with a hairdryer while pressing down.
dehelflix said:
I ordered online (sprint.com) launch day, and got a 002 with screen separation, called 2 weeks ago when sprint.com had some in stock, they made me verify the problem at a local sprint authorized reseller (nearest corporate store is 3hrs away) and by the time i got it verified and called Order Support back they were sold out, they sent me the return kit (i have to return it by August 1) yet its been almost 2 weeks since then and they havent had any in stock to ship me a replacement. Its a little ridiculous as i need to get the replacement through sprint.com, and they are never in stock. I'm terrified of just getting another broken one and having to go through this fiasco again.
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Strange , I spoke with a sprint rep on Thursday, 7/8, for a exchange, received my return kit today and received email confirmation that the replacement was shipped as of Saturday 7/11. You may want to contact Jerry. 3 day turn around for replacement.
By the way, my return kit states: return original package, manuals, battery, sdhc card, and phone..... I have all of these, but come on original package and manual.
Phone 1 Bad Earpiece speaker
Phone 2 None functioning headphone jack
Phone 3 Screen kept shutting off, but still could recieve calls so it was not a lockup, bad screen maybe?
Phone 4. Ok so far except for light leakage at the bottom. Every one of my replacements had light leakage though, so i wouldnt be returning your phone at this point if light leakage is your only problem. Remember these phones have a 1 year warranty, so if the screen seperates you will get a new phone (refurb)
I dont think HTC as addressed the screen issue, its still very hit and miss with people getting phones that are perfect, and the ones who are, sounds like some are having the issues after a couple weeks use. My newest phone was built on 6-21, and when i got my newest replacement, my brother joined my plan with an evo and both phones had light leakage. My buddy works at sprint, and every employee there that has an evo has light leakage.
Getting a refurb too may be even better, because if they replace the screen, maybe the new screen will be installed properly with a new type of glue, but who knows.
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My Sprint repair store replaced the screen... HTC is sending screens to key repair centers. I ended up fighting til I got a new phone though.
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Strange , I spoke with a sprint rep on Thursday, 7/8, for a exchange, received my return kit today and received email confirmation that the replacement was shipped as of Saturday 7/11. You may want to contact Jerry. 3 day turn around for replacement.
By the way, my return kit states: return original package, manuals, battery, sdhc card, and phone..... I have all of these, but come on original package and manual.
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called them back today, had to escalate call 3x, got a order number should get new phone in 3-5 days, thanks.
I picked my EVO on launch day, it was a 002 with a nova screen. Exchanged it 29 daya later due to the light leak / screen separation problem. I got a 003 with an Epson screen and no problems in the last week and a half that I've had it.
Return was done at the Sprint store I purchased it from.
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My Google I/O EVO has always had it. I am going to try the hair dryer trick, and if that doesn't work I will just wait for a new hardware revision.
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It's easy as heck to fix, most all phones suffer from this it's just more noticeable on the EVO due to the lights but when you hear reports of dust under the screen etc on other phones its usually from the same thing. The adhesive doesn't have time to properly set during the initial huge runs of these phones so some of them will dry with the screen not secured as flat as possible. All you have to do is use a heat gun (blow dryer will work just takes longer) run it around the edges that are lifted long enough for the adhesive to melt then push the screen down flat and hold it long enough for the adhesive to set and you have a perfectly flat screen with no seperation.
It's a pretty common thing, I do this with every new phone I purchase and even with some laptops to make sure the screens are sealed properly to avoid problems down the road even if I don't see any problems initially. Better safe than sorry!
Hey guys I have had zero issues with mine. It’s a 003 Novatec screen....it’s too bad some of you have had so much trouble. I’m just curious since many of you have actually exchanged your phones. Can you just call and do an over the phone exchange?...When I had t-mobile this is what I always did. Sometimes for really stupid issues, but was always nice to get a scratch less replacement. They ship you a new one and you just ship it back? I also have the TEP plan but I would rather not pay 100 bucks if I do run into an issue since I think these should be warranty claims.
so I was an unfortunate user who had dust under their screen and it was only getting worse. Rooted and unlocked I decided to go the swap route plus I didnt want to be N1less for a while. Any who, I call up HTC and explain my situation and without a prob I take the swap option. So 3 days later or so I recieve my refurbished N1. Everything looked well. I immediately rooted it with Cyan6 back to my old ways. So I go to play Home Run Derby and the screen goes white for a few seconds and I notice the entire screen has a burnt image on it. You can see the notification bar, the 3G symbol and entire keyboard in portrait mode. I start to notice it more browsing web and what not.
My plan is to call HTC on monday and get another phone as I hope it will not be a problem. I am also glad the new rooting methods are much easier then they were and I can just go back to stock. Lets hope they dont give me a prob with my old one...lol I will report back monday
I had the same dust under screen problem with my original Nexus One and called HTC to do a swap about 3 weeks ago. I received refurbished N1 two weeks after I first called and even before I had sent back the original I turned on the swap one they sent me, put my information in, and it rebooted.
Turns out they sent me a refurbished unit that constantly rebooted so much I couldn't even use it
I called again immediately and HTC said that I would need to send the original phone back (w/ the dust problem) and then a week later they will close out the ticket and then I can call again after that to do another swap on the one they sent me that is constantly rebooting :Sigh:
So I call again a week later once they close out the ticket and get a 3rd Nexus sent out to me. Well once I get the 3rd one I turn it on and lo and behold I can't make any calls unless the phone is on speaker mode!!!
I have a baaaaaaaaaad feeling that I'm just going to continually get sent refurbished units that don't work over and over and I'm not quite sure what to do about it
My experience with a swap hasn't been much better.
I sent my n1 for the power button issue and the swap unit I received was in terrible shape.
* screen burn in
* dust under the screen
* dead pixel
* very loose usb port
Needless to say I called and asked for another device.
All I can say is that their incompetence has led me to have 2 n1s now. Sometimes incompetence leads to good things.
Damn this sounds bad. I hope I don't have these issues. I called and they said I have to wait for the ticket to close. Guess ill report back next week
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My plan is to call HTC on monday and get another phone as I hope it will not be a problem. I am also glad the new rooting methods are much easier then they were and I can just go back to stock. Lets hope they dont give me a prob with my old one...lol I will report back monday
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I doubt you will have any problems with the old one. I sent my unlocked rooted phone back for a power button issue. Did a swap, received a refurbished phone and although it appeared to be fine, I tried recording a video and low and behold all I got was static for sound. I called HTC, explained the problem and within a day or so had another phone which has been fine. The unlocked/rooted phone was not a problem and showed service complete on the website.
If you are returning your phone for valid hardware issues, I doubt very much that HTC is going to give you a problem although I guess YMMV. As long as the HTC Website shows as "service complete", you are good to go on the unlocked/rooted device. I would suggest putting the phone back to factory software and unrooted. That's what I did beforehand. You're right about the newer rooting methods, it is a bit of a challenge to root, but well worth the extra time while alleviating the stress of "What If?" when you need warranty service.
Good Luck!
so my last one cleared and they are sending me a new one as we speak. Ill report back mid next week.
and yes it cleared with an unlocked bootloader running Cyan6 morphed up
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sou can see the notification bar, the 3G symbol and entire keyboard in portrait mode. I start to notice it more browsing web and what not.
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The ENTIRE keyboard? Man, you must have gotten a phone from a 12 year old girl if they were using the keyboard that much.
Did 3 swaps earlier this year:
- original phone: bad microphone or something
- 1st replacement: really pink screen
- 2nd replacement: horrible reception
- 3rd replacement slightly pink screen (this is the one I kept)
It is possible to keep the original phone and send in the replacement.
Its been over 2 weeks since I sent back the swap device for another and they still haven't sent out another replacement.
Multiple calls to htc support hasn't gotten me anywhere. They've repeatedly said that they would escalate the issue but nothing results from that.
So far, very disappointed with htc support.
I'm probably going to pick up the mytouch 4g just for the tmobile support which is excellent...
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dwang said:
My experience with a swap hasn't been much better.
I sent my n1 for the power button issue and the swap unit I received was in terrible shape.
* screen burn in
* dust under the screen
* dead pixel
* very loose usb port
Needless to say I called and asked for another device.
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My BTC swap experience... updated 11-10-10
so i got my 2nd replacement and all is well and went smooth.... and they excepted 1 unlocked bootloader and a rooted device
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All I can say is that their incompetence has led me to have 2 n1s now. Sometimes incompetence leads to good things.
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I got two car docks like this.
I just wanted to ask you all why you exchanged your epic to get another one. What problems were you having? I'm on my second one and about to be third. My first one I got 3wks ago and came out of the box with dg27and would not update itself to di18. I did it myself but still I called sprint and talked to tech and they said it was a software issue. I have no idea. Second one came out of the box updated but freezes and backs out of apps. Also if I'm using wifi and turn it off my 3G icon doesn't immediately show up for like hours. Sometimes a battery pull is required to get the 3G to come back on and when it does if I'm downloading something the arrows that show something is being downloaded doesn't light up but it still loads webpages. I'm just worried I'm gonna get another one that won't update itself if I take this one back. I dont mind using odin but i shouldnt have to. What issues did you all have? Do you think if I exchanged mine now that it should come out of the box with di18. It's been out long enough?
I'm on my second one, I was past the 30 days so I was given a refurb. Surprisingly this refurb is better than the new one, which to me is quite weird.
Anyway, I had to return my original one because the Ambient light sensor stopped functioning.
I thought that if it's covered under the manufacturers warranty you got a new one not a refurb? That's what I get for thinking.
Wow. Where do I begin. I had a whole laundry list of problems. Still do. Apparently most were software and may or may not get fixed. But hardware-wise, I had a massive battery drain problem. Bought mine at launch, and Sprint replaced it after the 30 days, and that's without the extended warranty crap. That's good customer service. Finally got one without major problems, but I'm trading mine for an Evo in the next couple days, so it don't matter either way.
I'm on my 4th Epic!!!
My 1st phone the qwerty keyboard got all scratched up from opening & closing. From #3 to #6 all the way to the bottom
The 2nd wouldn't update the PRL, Firmware or Profile! I'd get an error message. It was (according to Sprint) a software problem
On the 3rd my 4G wouln't turn on. I'd pull the notification bar down, hit the 4G icon & nothing would happen. Sprint tech said basically the 4g radio was never "turned on" & it couldn't be fixed at the store. Also the door for the charger didn't click when I opened it so it would slide open & close by itself.
So far my 4th phone is working perfect.
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Wow. Where do I begin. I had a whole laundry list of problems. Still do. Apparently most were software and may or may not get fixed. But hardware-wise, I had a massive battery drain problem. Bought mine at launch, and Sprint replaced it after the 30 days, and that's without the extended warranty crap. That's good customer service. Finally got one without major problems, but I'm trading mine for an Evo in the next couple days, so it don't matter either way.
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Well I had a hero,than swapped to evo on launch day and 2 weeks ago I swapped to the epic 4g. And I mus say that I am happy w the epic...rooted running stock...
i had 1 replacement, but semi my fault. i used to only use the dock to charge and got a ghost image of the dock clock. see below.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/sprint-epic-4g/135478-anybody-wanna-see-image-burnt-my-screen.html
I returned my first unit before I even got to play with it due to some dead pixels. Second unit is almost flawless, but lately I haver noticed that the slider is getting loose. I have tep, but am reluctant to take it in because I can't tell if it's just in my head after reading about other people having that problem.
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I got a replacement phone!!.....no more problems. I bought the vibrant the first day it came out and the Gps never worked. I tried every fix posted here, flashed different roms, went up on rooftops, etc, it would never get a lock. I called Tmobile customer service last week as I was finally fed up and told them I had a faulty GPS on the phone. They said that qualified as a defect, and as my phone was still under the one year manufacturer warranty, they happily sent me a new handset which I received yesterday. The gps works quite well right out of the box, also the phone seems faster and has no gallery lag like my last one. I can't speak as to the quality of the gps which is of great controversy here, but i'm happy to have it working at all, and fairly accurate so far it seems. I highly recommend to all of those folks out there with non functioning gps....just get a new phone....this is not a cheap device and should function as intended.
Did you flash your phone back to stock before returning it? Just wondering... I've seen some talk of t-mobile not caring about flashed phones, and I'm thinking of having mine exchanged for the same reason.
I got a replacement phone too. Manufactured in November. GPS works without any problems both when I tried it stock and with Nero 1.0. No more ****ing around with it for me!
I have not flashed it back to stock. Tmobile hasn't said anything about rooting and flashing roms voiding the warranty, so I don't think it will be a problem.....I hope
How would I be able to tell the manufactured date on my phone? I dont have it here with me, but just I know when I get home...
Is it possible to attempt to replace the phone within the first year of purchase??
I got my Vibrant at Best Buy.. would I have to go to Best Buy or T-Mobile??
I seem to get some GPS locks and correct positioning ONLY when I use both GPS & Network location options... sooo I'm assuming my GPS doesnt function properly right..?? My GPS alone should be able to locate me right??
I just got my phone replaced through insurance about a week ago and noticed a increased gps lock right away
If you have the update(which everyone should have by now) and gps isnt working still, then yea I would say call it in and get it replaced. I have mine that I got when it first came out and after the update(but then this was also after flashing each and every rom/leak/etc that i went back to stock), gps works fine for me.
Just remember, dont place the phone near any large metal, or magnetic objects, this throws the compass off. And try to be in view of as much sky as possible. Being in the shadow of a building will distort the signal and throw your location/accuracy off.
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You should definitely be able to get decent accuracy/locks/location from the GPS just by itself. Using wireless networks can sometimes help enough that it masks the fact that your GPS performance is sub par. I never have the "Use wireless networks" box checked as it doesn't seem to improve my GPS's performance, and sometimes it seems to hurt it. Use an app like GPS Test to get an idea of how well the GPS is functioning, and make sure you have the wireless networks option turned off.
A quick question---Don't you get a refurbished phone if you get your current phone replaced? That is the way it has always worked with me for the last 13 years with TM. Perhaps you received a refurbished phone mfg in Nov. I am still having GPS situations and have thought about asking for replacement but am concerned that I would receive one worse than what I now have, including hard locked buttons.
They will give you a "new or like-new" phone. Mine was new but it wasn't in a retail package.
my manufacture date is 7/21/2010
my gps seems to work just fine. Thats with wireless networks not checked. sometimes i cant get a lock in a building, but thats not a huge deal for me. My gps stays connected when i get a singal, doesnt wander off the route, and seems to be fairly accurate, within a few feet. I got the phone oct 22, from radio shack.
Just used the GPS Test App;
Indoors
in view 12
in use 5
30ft
Outdoors
in view 12
in use 8-10
18-20ft
I got my replacement Vibrant last week. It was a new phone, complete with original box, battery, two back covers, headphones, instructions, usb cable, charger, and SIM card. GPS works now, locks in seconds and doesn't jump around anymore. I Odined my old phone back to stock, put it in the new box and sent it back to T-Mobile. I kept everything else.
i got my phone from tmobile off contract in august and my gps works but not very well. do i qualify for a replacement?
EDIT: Crap. Never mind, just realized you wrote "original box". I'll call for replacement. Nothing to see here. Move along...lol
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I got my replacement Vibrant last week. It was a new phone, complete with original box, battery, two back covers, headphones, instructions, usb cable, charger, and SIM card. GPS works now, locks in seconds and doesn't jump around anymore. I Odined my old phone back to stock, put it in the new box and sent it back to T-Mobile. I kept everything else.
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The one you got, was it on a white box and wrapped in a carton-with-a-window or was it a full retail box?
I received one from insurance (Asurion) and was in a white box and indeed was refurb but all accessories in the box, including both back covers and all (was replacing a Nexus One). Got it replaced by tmo bcause the screen was greenish, and received the replacement one in an identical box, from the same address in TX, no accessories but I'd swear is new, not a single sxratch in the battery area - a telling sign (on the IMEI label under the batt says 10.07 so I assume us the nfg date). The IMEI in the box matched on both phones.
My GPS jumps all over the place, so if you definitely got a retail one, I'll ask for warrabty exchange.
I had gotten a replacement not to long ago was in original box sealed
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I had gotten a replacement not to long ago was in original box sealed
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Thanks. Based on both of your posts just called, and will get a replacement. Didn't give me any trouble at all when I asked for a replacement. However, the guy said he had no idea if I would get a new or a refurb... will call tomorrow and whine just in case.
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i got my phone from tmobile off contract in august and my gps works but not very well. do i qualify for a replacement?
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Should. They sell it. They must guarantee it. Call their cust service. Your IMEI is the key.
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mine came in the little white window box, no backplate, battery, or anything else. Maybe it's a refurbish...I don't know, however, it works perfectly and looks brand new.
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mine came in the little white window box, no backplate, battery, or anything else. Maybe it's a refurbish...I don't know, however, it works perfectly and looks brand new.
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Just like mine #2 (current). Looks and feels new. GPS jumps around when you are static? And have you used the samsung gps reset app thing?
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jstein222 said:
mine came in the little white window box, no backplate, battery, or anything else. Maybe it's a refurbish...I don't know, however, it works perfectly and looks brand new.
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Yup, that's how mine came. Manufactured in November and appears to be new in ever respect.
Hey guys, I bought the DX on the day it was released. about 4 months later I started noticing considerable dust under the screen, so I called it in and Verizon was quick to send me another one. Well the first replacement had a broken radio and wouldn't aquire a 3g signal, Verizon sent me another. That one had a broken shutter, a lot of the pictures taken with it would over expose. I stayed with that one for a couple of monthe til it got so bad that all pictures taken in the daylight would overexpose. so last week i got another sent too me. That replacement phone had a broken gps, it wouldn't aquire a signal strong enough to lock on, so verizon sent me another. This one will not recognize any videos on my sd card, it will not take any videos either, it also will not save any pictures, it will take them, then say that its saving the picture, but somehow it doesnt.
I am on phone number 5 and there is another coming tomorrow (cain't wait to see wht's wrong with this one)... Has onyone else had the same experiences with the certified phones? The company that's tasked to fix these is obviously not doing there job...
You got really unlucky back when I had my droid eris it froze up doing the ota to 2.1 and they gave me a preowned phone that worked just fine
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My first pre-owned had mad reboot issues and none of the troubleshooting methods worked. Got a replacement pre-owned and all is well. Good luck with your next one!
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Verizon is notorious for this - supposedly these certified pre owned phones pass a "100 point inspection", yet somehow most of the phones have obvious problems such as the ones you outlined above. You might have some luck going into the store, explaining your situation, and demanding a brand new one instead of a used one.
a LOT of the "recertified" phones don't actually have anything wrong with them at all. Customers return them before their 30 days is up, or they get sent in for things like a broken battery or broken SD card. So sometimes these "recertified" phones are actually brand new in box, that just never came with an SDcard (or something along those lines).
I think you just got REALLY REALLY unlucky.
Maybe go to a verizon store and give it the "wardo5757 100 point inspection" before you take it home.
What a great thread to read right after I have a replacement shipped (will be here tomorrow). Stupid mini usb port is super loose and won't take a charge.
Who am I kidding though, Verizon replaced 3 of my TP2 device to the point I got a letter saying Assurion would no longer cover me. I have bad luck with phones but have never had a problem with a replacement outside of once or twice. Better luck next time!