[Q] I'm so very confused. - Epic 4G General

Alright, So I recently just moved from an Evo to the epic. And I'm glad I did. The evo was great, But I missed having a keyboard and the epic hasn't dissapointed.
I have a couple questions though,
Rooting on the evo was super easy, I'm still confused on how to use the one click root for epic. People are saying it doesn't work? And I read on some website if you just want to change roms and change kernals just to flash a custom recovery onto it and don't root, because rooting will only let you get root-only apps.
Please? Explain on how to root with the one click root method because I'm Completely lost on how to do this for the epic 0_o

The one click root does work. I followed the instructions and my phone is rooted. I'm new to android and to rooting but not new to modding phones/computers/software. After rooting you can still download none root apps in addition to root apps. From what I've seen most of the rooting issues come from people not following the instructions or not truely understanding them. I haven't flashed to a new rom yet. I'm waiting on froyo. So I can't say for sure but its my understanding that you have to have root premissions to flash a custom rom.
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As far as how to root with the one click root I installed the samsung usb drivers for my operating system (win 7 64bit) Note: after reading several posts the driver installation takes a little bit. Click on the installing drivers message to bring up the install window. I let the installtion run for almost 15 minuted and it still gave me an error but after turning on usb debbuging on phone connecting with usb, mounting sd card, and running the one click root my phone restarted and I was rooted. If you search other posts you'll find more detailed instructions.
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Correction. You don't have to root to flash a rom I don't know what I was thinking when I typed that. All you need is clockwork recovery.
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The only problem you'll encounter, if any at all, with rooting is with driver installation. If u follow the guides tho and don't try to experiment, u shud be good to go. These roots are one click as well as it involves running a simple bat file. Some phones are more finnicky than others, but they shud give u no trouble if u know what ur doing. Good luck.
And yes, the keyboard on this rules
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.....and the winner is?

What is the best way to root the EVO
Toast is the best method.
nick325i said:
Toast is the best method.
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Does everything works with Toast's root method?
Considering Toast's method is the only way to load custom ROMs I think his is the clear winner.
I started off with Unrevoked's and it was great for things like Titanium backup, but I decided to follow Toast's guide and it was really pretty simple.
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Considering Toast's method is the only way to load custom ROMs I think his is the clear winner.
I started off with Unrevoked's and it was great for things like Titanium backup, but I decided to follow Toast's guide and it was really pretty simple.
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I cant use the adb with the evo, no matter what i do windows dont find the drivers.
If i root with toast method, do i need to flash a custom rom? does everything works on yours?
For the drivers you have to goto the htc sync folder on your sd card and install the htc sync program.
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You can't flash custom ROMs with unrEVOked. Instant fail. I also like having my ROM actually rooted, and not just reliant on some other app.
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For the drivers you have to goto the htc sync folder on your sd card and install the htc sync program.
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I dont have any htc sync folder, do i have to?
The poll should read what is the best way not what did you use. It is misleading.
Toasts root is the best because of the recovery. That is needed for custom ROMs, nand backups, and a host of underthings.
A lot of people used unrevoked because it was easy and are new to android so they don't know the difference yet at least.
Toast method ftw! Been following his work since the hero. What's the point of rooting if you can't flash custom roms???
mikevillarroel said:
I dont have any htc sync folder, do i have to?
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Did you format your sd card? you can just download it from htc. goto the evo support section at htc.com and it is in the download section.
mikevillarroel said:
I cant use the adb with the evo, no matter what i do windows dont find the drivers.
If i root with toast method, do i need to flash a custom rom? does everything works on yours?
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I hope this isn't insulting but just to cover all the bases, you have USB Debugging turned on, right?
I had a Hero before this so I didn't have to mess with drivers and cannot remember exactly how difficult it was with the Hero. What Operating System do you have? You can easily find adb drivers by Googling.
mikevillarroel said:
What is the best way to root the EVO
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Toast with OMJ rom and Toast radio update.
06ms6 said:
I hope this isn't insulting but just to cover all the bases, you have USB Debugging turned on, right?
I had a Hero before this so I didn't have to mess with drivers and cannot remember exactly how difficult it was with the Hero. What Operating System do you have? You can easily find adb drivers by Googling.
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I've got it now, i was missing the HTC Sync part, gonna start backing up and see what happen, oh....can i unroot or uninstall unrevoked?
mikevillarroel said:
I've got it now, i was missing the HTC Sync part, gonna start backing up and see what happen, oh....can i unroot or uninstall unrevoked?
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Don't worry about it, you'll be flashing a ROM over it. I was using unrevoked before I did Toast's method and it went fine.
Did you flash back to the .1 shipped software (upgrade was the .6)?
Go toast! though unrevoked is nice for those who don't want to tinker too much with the phone but want root
Unrevoked by far. Very clean and simple.
To reverse it? takes 20 seconds..
The REAL winner is who gets r/w access. THATS a rooted phone in my opinion.
flashing custom roms is awesome, but what good is it if you can't r/w the system. pfft.
I have faith that all the devs working on r/w access will pull through. Your work is so very appreciated!
VoXHTC said:
Unrevoked by far. Very clean and simple.
To reverse it? takes 20 seconds..
The REAL winner is who gets r/w access. THATS a rooted phone in my opinion.
flashing custom roms is awesome, but what good is it if you can't r/w the system. pfft.
I have faith that all the devs working on r/w access will pull through. Your work is so very appreciated!
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With toasts you have r/w access once you go into the recovery mode...
06ms6 said:
Don't worry about it, you'll be flashing a ROM over it. I was using unrevoked before I did Toast's method and it went fine.
Did you flash back to the .1 shipped software (upgrade was the .6)?
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well i root but the wire less tether wont work, going to flash a custom romand let you know.
Never mind, i got it working now!

[1 Click Root] I Have Two Questions...

Ok, i just heard of the one click root app now out for the nexus one.. I always wanted to root, but every time I did, i was never able to get it. So anyways back to my questions...
*[1] I have stock froyo frf91.. I manually updated all the versions leading up to frf91 not once did I receive an ota update... Once I root, will that cancel my ota's? (even tho I manually update them) will I still get an ota update to gingerbread if I root?
*[2] Once I do this root thing, i want the best rom that includes a fast, clean, eye candy, all black theme. (Including the notification bar) after I find this, how do I go about and apply it? How do I install it?.. Isn't there an app in the market where I can look at the newest roms and themes and just apply them from there?
Sorry for the noob questions guys, i just want to witness what all of you have.. I want to unleash the potential of my nexus one! Lol.
** On a side note, i also heard that once you get a cyanogen rom, it is a must that you download the titanium back up app.. is that right?.. because that rom deletes everything...?
Thanks guys, very much!
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Never heard bout the Backup thing issue,
But No, once rooted you dont get OTA's (due the fact you change recovery image and rom)
I believe if you still keep things stock like Recovery, and Official ROM you do! (but unsure of this)
Also there is a adb way to root which is simple and thats how i rooted my phone!
you can give that a try instead of one click!
there are no roms in market..
Also try to look through the Dev section, to even apple Dev roms you need to flash custom recovery then do a nandroid back up, then from ther you use the apple from sd!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736271
this is the method i followed
-note if this is gonna be your first time rooting, i suggest you read all info possible bout it, then read it again.. the think on how your going to do it , then reread the info then apply.. while applying stil read the info
woah there. He'll still get the OTA notification and can even download it. You just can't apply the OTA updates. You have to use a rooted one, generally available here before you'll ever even see the OTA notification on your phone.
if you are rooting for the first time do it the loop adb way. Its a bit more involved but once you do it you will learn a bit about adb and other methods that you will need in the future.
One-Click root is going to make the more fun parts of modding harder in the future. The guide in the stickies is very easy to follow and it will pay off in the long run.
Or fastboot oem unlock it and have the badge of honor
That's the thing, i've tried doin it the adb way.. it just never worked for me..
And I also don't want to unlock the bootloader
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this way should work like perfect, the other way with pulling sdard way seems kinda over that top for me..
Yea.. so if I use this one click method, i can use custom roms and themes?
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matholomus said:
Yea.. so if I use this one click method, i can use custom roms and themes?
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Yup, I did that yesturday, there are a few more steps after rooting to get custom roms to work but you can do it.
On another note, cant you just flash back to stock, then using rom manager get rid of the custom recovery, then unroot using the 1click root? Wont that put you back to stock? cant you use the ota's then?
The AndRoot app is awesome. U can turn root ON or OFF anytime (even for ota).
Orangeandblue302 said:
Or fastboot oem unlock it and have the badge of honor
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and wear it proudly! fastboot is a cinch and pretty hard to ef up. the worst part is the syntax (especially if you dont have the recovery image in the right directory). i found this link to be helpful in learning how to use fastboot.
i used fastboot to unlock and to flash amon ra. then, running amon ra, i flashed whatever ROM i wanted. later, just for s and giggles i used rom manager to install the clockwork mod recovery.
if you dont like the outcome, you can always flash back to stock which will redo the stock recovery too... but the unlock badge will remain proudly displayed.

First time rooter

I was wondering what root I should go with as a first time rooter lol..
And a link to get there maybe.... Iv heard froyo 2.2 is the best
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Deathbeaver said:
I was wondering what root I should go with as a first time rooter lol..
And a link to get there maybe.... Iv heard froyo 2.2 is the best
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depends entirely on what update ur using.. ig you want froyo.. use ota updates to get you to dl09 and then use the adb method. follow the directions carefully. here is a link to directions... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779238 im not sure if u can use the one click root with dl09 ive heard you cant but i havent tried it so i wouldnt recomend it.. heres a link to dl adb. via sdk tools.. http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-adb-and-how-to-install-it-android/
be sure you read everything over very carefully so u know what ur getting into.. good luck
DI01 is what I'm using so would I do the one click root....if so can any one recommend some roms and other stuff I would need...thanks
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HELP
so i tried the one click method with my phone and it pushes files on my phone then my phone restarts but while its restarting the one click thing keeps saying device eror device not found and does it like 10 times then says device done push any key to continue? does any one know whats going on....im using DI01 i have the samsung drivers installed... and its in usb debugging? HELP PLEASE!!! really want to root this beast!!
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so i tried the one click method with my phone and it pushes files on my phone then my phone restarts but while its restarting the one click thing keeps saying device eror device not found and does it like 10 times then says device done push any key to continue? does any one know whats going on....im using DI01 i have the samsung drivers installed... and its in usb debugging? HELP PLEASE!!! really want to root this beast!!
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like i said earlier adb is the BEST way to do it with few problems.. ive never used a one click root so hopefully someone else will b sweet and help u out.. gluck
o yes and u cant use dl01 with the froyo leak it WILL NOT WORK!!! u need to update first..
In this forum there is the stickied thread for beginners that links to AndroidCentral directions for a one click method.
I used that to get rooted without any issues.
Then I went to the devoper forum and used the How To guide for getting DL30. That worked with no issues too.
1. You need to upgrade (OTA if possible) to DL09 first.
2. Follow directions exactly as stated.
3. After root, install Titanium Backup. Its not mentioned in these directions but its very helpful and lets you back up specific apps. I only backed up my apps that have specific data or were actualy purchased. I redownloaded others, such as maps, etc.
4. Follow directions exactly as stated and be patient.
Now, the first time I had ran the one click, I got the same 'error'. no worries, just run it again. It took me two times for it to run properly.
Make sure you are following directions and have USB debugging and don't click the notification to start mass storage. Just turn on USB debugging and plug in the phone, then run Odin and files as directed.
superchunkwii said:
In this forum there is the stickied thread for beginners that links to AndroidCentral directions for a one click method.
I used that to get rooted without any issues.
Then I went to the devoper forum and used the How To guide for getting DL30. That worked with no issues too.
1. You need to upgrade (OTA if possible) to DL09 first.
2. Follow directions exactly as stated.
3. After root, install Titanium Backup. Its not mentioned in these directions but its very helpful and lets you back up specific apps. I only backed up my apps that have specific data or were actualy purchased. I redownloaded others, such as maps, etc.
4. Follow directions exactly as stated and be patient.
Now, the first time I had ran the one click, I got the same 'error'. no worries, just run it again. It took me two times for it to run properly.
Make sure you are following directions and have USB debugging and don't click the notification to start mass storage. Just turn on USB debugging and plug in the phone, then run Odin and files as directed.
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ive heard that the one click roots dont work with dl09?? did you use it with dl09??
ace5198 said:
ive heard that the one click roots dont work with dl09?? did you use it with dl09??
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Yes. It worked just fine. I think those that had errors maybe had DL09 from this dev site vs the OTA or simply didn't follow the directions perfectly.
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Yes. It worked just fine. I think those that had errors maybe had DL09 from this dev site vs the OTA or simply didn't follow the directions perfectly.
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ok.. thanks for clearing that up
I had an issue with the one click root.
The phone needed to be power cycled and unplugged from the computer during the first auto-reboot and i had to mount then un-mount the device. The mount and un-mount is on the phone after you plug it back in.
Also, I read somewhere on here that the OTA DL09 was pulled due to the emergency call issue. Not sure how true it is...
And, the froyo update was the first time I rooted and loaded a different OS.
So should I keep trying to root with the one click our should I update to DL09 then one click?
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Deathbeaver said:
So should I keep trying to root with the one click our should I update to DL09 then one click?
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You could root with one click then use Odin to flash the stock DL09 that is here in the forums.
OR, just wait for Verizon to put out their fix and of course the latest update which could just be DL30 or a fixed DL09.
So I just updated my phone with EA28 does any one know what that one does?.....it s from verizon
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http://phandroid.com/2011/02/03/samsung-fascinates-ea28-update-coming-to-fix-emergency-calling-bug/
Does one click root work with this
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Does one click root work with this
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Since its basically identical to DL09 but with the 911 bug fixed and I was able to one-click root on my DL09 without any issues, I'd say yes.
Just follow the directions in the stickied thread in this forum for "beginners". It links to Android Central. Just create a free account to see the files.
I keep trying the one click method and nothing all I it restarts my phone and all keep getting is eror device not found then it says click to continue and and the program shuts of...why is this so hard for me DAM!!!
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Deathbeaver said:
I keep trying the one click method and nothing all I it restarts my phone and all keep getting is eror device not found then it says click to continue and and the program shuts of...why is this so hard for me DAM!!!
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As soon as your phone reboots disconnect it from the USB. Wait for it to boot up then reconnect it to the USB.
That is what I had to do to get the one click to run on DL09.

Trouble with root

Ok, so I ran the superoneclick and it says it was successful and I have superuser on my phone but if I try to use any root programs like titanium backup it says I'm not rooted, any suggestions?
Super oneclick only gives you temporary root, so after you reboot you loose root. On most phones it gives you permanent root but the way the kernel is designed on the intercept it doesn't work. There is an app in the intercept 2.2 development thread at sdx-developers that gives you permanent root and flashes cm recovery to allow you to flash zips to install mods roms and themes!!easy to use!!
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Jstew83 said:
Ok, so I ran the superoneclick and it says it was successful and I have superuser on my phone but if I try to use any root programs like titanium backup it says I'm not rooted, any suggestions?
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Would highly recommend you click over to the dev section - link posted that will give you perma root. Quite simple to do.
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... the way the kernel is designed on the intercept it doesn't work. There is an app in the intercept 2.2 development thread at sdx-developers that gives you permanent root and flashes cm recovery to allow you to flash zips to install mods roms and themes!!easy to use!! ...
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I was wondering why my Intercept wasn't holding root... one thing about that app: you have to change the .ch (or is it .sh) files to use stl5. They're written for stl9.
Also, I've used this app about 50 times on my Intercept and it's not working. Its just adding more files to my phone, causing it to slow down more. If it doesn't work and you want a break, use adb shell to delete the files added. I tried using SuperOneClick in combination with the SDX app and that didn't work either. My suggestion is to use SuperOneClick for temp root and flash a rooted kernel and ROM, which is what I'm going to do at some point.
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caderyn19 said:
I was wondering why my Intercept wasn't holding root... one thing about that app: you have to change the .ch (or is it .sh) files to use stl5. They're written for stl9.
Also, I've used this app about 50 times on my Intercept and it's not working. Its just adding more files to my phone, causing it to slow down more. If it doesn't work and you want a break, use adb shell to delete the files added. I tried using SuperOneClick in combination with the SDX app and that didn't work either. My suggestion is to use SuperOneClick for temp root and flash a rooted kernel and ROM, which is what I'm going to do at some point.
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Hmmmm sounds like you are making things more complex then they actually are - took me about 5 seconds to gain perma root without any file name changes.
entropy.of.avarice said:
Hmmmm sounds like you are making things more complex then they actually are - took me about 5 seconds to gain perma root without any file name changes.
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That's me! I did that with my Wii also lol!
The OneClickRoot program just isn't working for me. I only mentioned the stl5 thing because someone else mentioned it in the SDX thread hosting this program, figured I'd mention it because it's several posts in. I changed mine because SuperOneClick said my mount point was /.../.../stl5 (the ...s are directories I don't remember).
[EDIT] Instead of doing all that, try the post below me. if that doesn't work, just break it down and do it manually... Flash a rooted kernel, then recovery, make your backups, then flash custom roms. I was using all stock when I first wrote the post, but now I'm using SlapKernel, bROM, and CM01 recovery. I WAS making it too complicated lol!
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That's me! I did that with my Wii also lol!
The OneClickRoot program just isn't working for me. I only mentioned the stl5 thing because someone else mentioned it in the SDX thread hosting this program, figured I'd mention it because it's several posts in. I changed mine because SuperOneClick said my mount point was /.../.../stl5 (the ...s are directories I don't remember).
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So strange. Try this: worked for me, all you need to do is check allow non market programs in your settings, download and install this apk - run it and gain perm root. Does this work for you?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135825
yes that may work
caderyn19 said:
That's me! I did that with my Wii also lol!
The OneClickRoot program just isn't working for me. I only mentioned the stl5 thing because someone else mentioned it in the SDX thread hosting this program, figured I'd mention it because it's several posts in. I changed mine because SuperOneClick said my mount point was /.../.../stl5 (the ...s are directories I don't remember).
[EDIT] Instead of doing all that, try the post below me. if that doesn't work, just break it down and do it manually... Flash a rooted kernel, then recovery, make your backups, then flash custom roms. I was using all stock when I first wrote the post, but now I'm using SlapKernel, bROM, and CM01 recovery. I WAS making it too complicated lol!
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damn glad you got it running - you are further then me now on my Intercept - all I have is root so I can use my 3g as a wifi hotspot for my Acer Iconia a500 tablet need to look into custom roms for the intercept, the Virgin Mobile stock 2.2 is so slow :-(
Stock is somewhat slow. Make sure you read the directions though with rom flashing. I messed up my phone for a few hours from not doing the steps correctly with a certain rom. All sorts of fun! I flashed a rooted stock kernel from sdx, as well as stock rom (idk if roms are rooted? Its depends on the kernel right? Ill google it...) and a kernel package that has some tweaks to the stock (or any) kernel. I gotta say, adding Zeam launcher to a rooted and tweaked stock is running quite well for me.
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Perm Root not working

I followed multiple steps for installing perm root on a friends Mytouch and for some reason we could not get the s-off feature to work. I noticed too we do have SU access via adb or terminal but I still never could get s-off. After we got root we used rom manager to install clockwork and after the fact it installed 3.0.2 i believe it completely borked the recovery. I stepped it down to 3.0.0 and still had the same issue. The main reason i wanted to get s-off was to adb flash the recovery but I got a signature fail. Any ideas or suggestions to get this working correctly? Rom Manager will not let me install 2x cwm basically stating it can not install it period. I also tried the batch file root method same issue. Thanks for your help in advance.
Please look at the "True permaroot and S-OFF" thread in Development section, and execute step-by-step.
If your friend's MT4G is running Gingerbread (Android 2.3.3), you'll need to use Gingerbreak instead of Visionary+ to get root access.
Its on froyo and i followed that guide i have perm root but we can not get s off. I can use root access for any programs
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dynamicj said:
Its on froyo and i followed that guide i have perm root but we can not get s off. I can use root access for any programs
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If you are following the ./gfree method step by step it will root your phone.
If you are using the root.sh script and it's not working chances are you may have a bad eMMC chipset and it will not root properly.
I know HTC said they would be pushing a update to close the exploit hole that is used to root our phones but i don't think it's been pushed yet.
Im not sure but it said something about not being able to back up partition or something but either way nice HTC is becoming a motorola nice
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dynamicj said:
Im not sure but it said something about not being able to back up partition or something but either way nice HTC is becoming a motorola nice
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HTC isn't "becoming a Motorola". HTC, is completely different. We do have a locked bootloader. But it's easily unlock-able whereas Moto's aren't.
Its still not accepting the soff root which i am baffled at and with a broken recovery i need to know what to do now. Recovery just shows pc-cell logo
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dynamicj said:
Its still not accepting the soff root which i am baffled at and with a broken recovery i need to know what to do now. Recovery just shows pc-cell logo
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I don't know what to tell you. There are several threads out there regarding how to root your phone. Both in a .gfree form and a root.sh form. One of those 2 work for 99.9% of EVERYONE.
You might try finding someone who put together a .zip that can be flashed through the android recovery(white screen with boot options, etc.). Otherwise you can get the RUU and return to stock. After that follow the directions step by step and DO NOT mix methods. This should result in an S-OFF root, if you did your homework correctly.
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I did several methods via adb .sh file and .g i have root in the os Rom manager even installed cwm but i can't get into cwm i get that image.... So still lost as nothing is working on this phone for s off
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dynamicj said:
I did several methods via adb .sh file and .g i have root in the os Rom manager even installed cwm but i can't get into cwm i get that image.... So still lost as nothing is working on this phone for s off
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Until you have "s-off" no recovery image will stick.
Obviously why i posted here to get insight anyways ill just redo it for the 5th time maybe it will work....
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dynamicj said:
Obviously why i posted here to get insight anyways ill just redo it for the 5th time maybe it will work....
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What method are you using?
I have tried them all
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I have tried them all
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What errors are you getting?
Just can not get it to go soff i have root in the device otherwise. Recovery also just shows a computer and cell phone icon after Rom manager install clockwork mod 3x. I am just trying to adb install a older cwm.
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As someone already explained before, when the security is on, no matter the amount of flashing you're going to try - it won't get you anywhere, since it won't be written to the actual ROM, and will be gone on restart.
Unless you pick a guide, follow it exactly, and post here everything that doesn't look proper - I don't think the forum can help you much.
Here's one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Follow it and post anything that doesn't look good. Including your bootloader version.
The root is sticking on reboots but still no soff that's what i have been saying and i followed the guides to a t its not my first picnic rooting or roming a phone this one just has me stumped
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What does your bootloader show when you boot into it?
For the root to stick after boot, you had to have S-OFF, otherwise the eMMC wouldn't have been written to.
Having no info from you, as I said, it's impossible to help. If all this thread is just a complaint - by all means, but in that case there's no point in helping you. If you want help - you need to provide enough details for people to help you. Obviously, nobody can figure out anything from "I can't get s-off".
I do a adb reboot bootloader and i get us fast boot up top it says s-on but if i reboot to the os i still have root access for instance in titanium backup or Rom manager of that helps any
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