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how do you update the radio rom??

Hi Folks.
Just been issued heros at work and wish to update the radio rom...How is this accomplished??
regards
Lohtse

Firstly it needs to have a recovery image installed I recommend Amon-Ra v 1.6.2.
Secondly you need to find the radio rom you wish to flash and put it onto the root of you phones sd card.
Thirdly enter the recovery image you have installed by holding power and home button from the phone being off.
Then select the radio.zip to flash.
Everything I have said here can easily be found how to do via searching this forum or its wiki.
also www.theunlockr.com will help with installing the recovery image.

lohtse said:
Hi Folks.
Just been issued heros at work and wish to update the radio rom...How is this accomplished??
regards
Lohtse
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First you will need to install the custom recovery console if you haven't done so already.
Then download your updated radio, put it on your SD, load into the recovery, then apply update. DONE!
If that is too brief,... let me know,...
EDIT... Ooops,... too late.

way to complicated...
Too much to do and can screw up..... At least with winmo and symbian was a few clicks...
hmmmmm think will ditch android.....

really? its not complicated at all when you know what your doing. In fact I can say its a damn sight easier (and safer) than modifying blackberry roms and from what I hear also Windows Mobile.

Lennyuk said:
really? its not complicated at all when you know what your doing. In fact I can say its a damn sight easier (and safer) than modifying blackberry roms and from what I hear also Windows Mobile.
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I came from wimo to android, and as it is said, it's quite hard to catch the thing at the beginning, but after everything seems easier than in wimo !! and more reliable... you have almost no chance to brick your hero after you installed the recovery boot.
radio : boot in recovery then select the good option.
rom : nandroid backup / install whatever rom you want / if you don't like it go for nandroid restore ( all you need is two Sd card.. the good one and the one for the "tests" ).... etc....
But at the beginning i was totally out but with a little time.. reading some posts (here and on the web) ... one day everything was more clear !
Ciao
Fred

lohtse said:
way to complicated...
Too much to do and can screw up..... At least with winmo and symbian was a few clicks...
hmmmmm think will ditch android.....
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Its not hard at all. You can have the recovery installed and the radio updated in 5 minutes.
For step by step instructions follow the "Installing a recovery image" section in BTDAG's guide linked in my signature.
Then further down the same post, in the second yellow box there are instructions on "Updating your Radio".

Guys, the OP said he was issued the Hero at work, then two hours later said he was going to ditch Android... so what then, he's quitting his job? Troll alert. Don't feed the troll.

As to troll comment(yes offence has been caused)....hmmmmm.... Am going back to the trusty Kaiser... WE DON'T HAVE TO USE THE HERO.... We live in free(ish) world.. And the Phones are issued as an update to our old duty phones... Also I'm not the only one who uses them that feels the same.
Now to updating being easy. Gulp I must be eeer dum!!! Du hu Du HU must be the TROLL in me!
I have tried to install recovery image thing and well just cant get it to work... And now I find I have to root the hero too so things will install to sd card!!!! WTF this should all be standard like winmo and symbian etc...
I have been using smart phones since the Ericsson r380 and so far Android has failed to impress to the degree I am beginning to hate it....
Am far to used to having simply andfull access to everything..
Android is a HUGE learning curve that I suspect I may not have the patience for..
regards The TROLL sorry I mean Lohtse

Now I have finally managed to get recovery image on and updated the radio...Being called a troll did it !!!!!!.....LOL
My final questions are this how do I root so I can install to sd card(just point me in the right direction) And do I have to unlock Phone to any network to have custom roms on..
regards
TROLL

lohtse said:
Now I have finally managed to get recovery image on and updated the radio...Being called a troll did it !!!!!!.....LOL
My final questions are this how do I root so I can install to sd card(just point me in the right direction) And do I have to unlock Phone to any network to have custom roms on..
regards
TROLL
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Wahey!!!! Good job man.
Ok,... So now you have the recovery image all you need to do is pick a custom ROM. Personally, I highly recommend MCR3.2 (link in signature at botom). It is an Android 1.5 ROM but is stable and fast, what more could you want for a work phone.This ROM is rooted and has apps2SD enabled. Once you have installed the ROM you will need to remember to create an ext2 partition on the SD card (easily done through the recovery). Then you are set to go!!!!

lohtse said:
Now I have finally managed to get recovery image on and updated the radio...Being called a troll did it !!!!!!.....LOL TROLL
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You're welcome And what ddotpatel said. MCR is fast & clean. By installing a custom recovery you've already done the only tricky bit.

Yep installed 3.2 from modocca. seems nice but how do you know if the apps are installing to sdcard???? I'm not sure they are lol..

lohtse said:
Yep installed 3.2 from modocca. seems nice but how do you know if the apps are installing to sdcard???? I'm not sure they are lol..
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You need to create an ext2 partition on your SD card through the recovery again. I cant remember the exact wording but something like "create ext2 + fat" or something along those lines.
As far as I know, once that has been done all apps will install to SD.
Someone with more knowhow than me correct me if I am wrong?... CAULI?,... LENNY?

Can someone who knows please answer this question:
Are you 100% sure that flashing the Radio ROM does not affect the phone RF Calibration ?
Thanks!

ddotpatel said:
You need to create an ext2 partition on your SD card through the recovery again. I cant remember the exact wording but something like "create ext2 + fat" or something along those lines.
As far as I know, once that has been done all apps will install to SD.
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Yup, certainly as far as MCR is concerned. On the first reboot it will move all files from /data/app to /system/sd/app (& similarly for app-private) Nb /sysytem/sd is the mount point for the ext2 partition. All it does is move the files over & then replaces the /data/app (& app-private) directory with a symlink to the new location. That way future installs, updates etc all automatically go to the new location.
You can always check yourself with a terminal emulator & the command ls -l, or using a file manager like Root Explorer, if you're curious. Some people think it's not working because they see available space in internal flash drop as apps are installed, but that's because app data & the dalvik cache remain on internal flash, principally aiui for reasons of access speed. The saving you make just from shifting the apks to sd is more than enough for most people it seems.

cauli said:
Yup, certainly as far as MCR is concerned. On the first reboot it will move all files from /data/app to /system/sd/app (& similarly for app-private) Nb /sysytem/sd is the mount point for the ext2 partition.
All it does is move the files over & then replaces the /data/app (& app-private) directory with a symlink to the new location. That way future installs, updates etc all automatically go to the new location.
You can always check yourself with a terminal emulator & the command ls -l, or using a file manager like Root Explorer.
Some people think it's not working because they see available space in internal flash drop as apps are installed, but that's because app data & the dalvik cache remain on internal flash, principally aiui for reasons of access speed.
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hmmmm I certainly noticed a drop in available memory on the phone to the degree of only having 54 megs free...

SebHTCHero said:
Are you 100% sure that flashing the Radio ROM does not affect the phone RF Calibration ?
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what is rf calibration?

What is radio rom used for by phone?

kendong2 said:
what is rf calibration?
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A set of tables usually stored in NVRAM that takes into account the slight differences in the components used to build your phone. Every single phone is calibrated during manufacturing.
If the calibration is erased, it will look like it works but you can have all sort of problems from poor battery life to random drop from the network or poor sensibility (not to mention the higher than expected radio levels you could be emitting right next to your brain )

Package File Invalid

My phone wont download apps from the marketplace or my sdcard anymore. It keeps saying the "package file invalid" and with apps from my sdcard it just says not installed. What gives? After a soft reset I was able to download one thing but after than nothing would install

amallama said:
My phone wont download apps from the marketplace or my sdcard anymore. It keeps saying the "package file invalid" and with apps from my sdcard it just says not installed. What gives? After a soft reset I was able to download one thing but after than nothing would install
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Helpful information:
What ROM you're using?
What was the last thing you did before this began happening?
Did you make Nandroid back up, if so -- have you restored?
Have you tried reinstalling the market application?
Have you tried changing to a different ROM and seeing if the problem occurs?
We're here to help, just gotta give us a little more info.

okay
Im using the Fresh Rom,
the last thing I did was install an app of my SdCard.
I didnt do a restore, only because I haven't done a backup in about a week, and I didnt want to lose all the stuff I've done since then.
I dont really know how to reinstall the market app, but does that also control installs from the sdcard?
and ive been using this rom for about 3 weeks with no problems so I dont know if that was the problem

amallama said:
okay
Im using the Fresh Rom,
the last thing I did was install an app of my SdCard.
I didnt do a restore, only because I haven't done a backup in about a week, and I didnt want to lose all the stuff I've done since then.
I dont really know how to reinstall the market app, but does that also control installs from the sdcard?
and ive been using this rom for about 3 weeks with no problems so I dont know if that was the problem
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Hmm...interesting.
The first thing you should do is make a back up. Save all the stuff you have. Then, while still in recovery, I would restore your OLD back up and see if anything changes.
I've created an update.zip file that will automatically delete your Market application (Vending.apk) and then reinstall it. This might or might not fix your problem. Download the file below and copy it to your SD Card, then flash it through recovery.
Tell me what happens.
EDIT:: File was removed due to bad update-script, please see post below.

thanks for the post. I would flash this but when I tried it said that the directory didnt exist. I think it has to do with the permissions or something and I haven't the slightest clue how to do it... grrrr!!!

amallama said:
thanks for the post. I would flash this but when I tried it said that the directory didnt exist. I think it has to do with the permissions or something and I haven't the slightest clue how to do it... grrrr!!!
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Directory didn't existed? I've never heard of that error. You have rooted your phone phone and installed a recovery image, correct?

yes my phone is definitely rooted. Irony is I did a restore from a previous backup, but now its doing the same thing!!
But this is what I get when I try to flash it,
E:cant chown/mod /system/bin
(No such file or directory)
E:Failure at line 10
set_perm_recursive 0 2000 0755 0 755 SYSTEM:bin

amallama said:
yes my phone is definitely rooted. Irony is I did a restore from a previous backup, but now its doing the same thing!!
But this is what I get when I try to flash it,
E:cant chown/mod /system/bin
(No such file or directory)
E:Failure at line 10
set_perm_recursive 0 2000 0755 0 755 SYSTEM:bin
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Well, I'll be honest, I know exactly why you're getting that error... the update script I included in the update.zip file was incorrect. However, I've fixed the problem and uploaded a second version of the update.zip. Please download this file, copy to your sd card and flash. You shouldn't have any problems this time.
Again, this will remove your Market application and then reinstall it. Hope it works, tell me if you have problems. Sorry again.

Thanks! It worked like a charm..Lets hope it stays that way!

amallama said:
Thanks! It worked like a charm..Lets hope it stays that way!
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Well, I'm glad to hear that! Hope things work out. Good luck!

Darn, it worked now Im back to not being able to install stuff again! Im at my wits end with this!

amallama said:
Darn, it worked now Im back to not being able to install stuff again! Im at my wits end with this!
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Wow. Are you using Apps2SD? Also, maybe you should try running a Sprint RUU on your phone, bringing it back to the original factory settings and see if you have problems. If not, try installing a ROM again and see what happens. Otherwise, I'm not sure what's going on here.

Yea I am using App2SD. Im not sure what it is either. It works and then it doesnt sometimes. Its very strange. Reinstalling the Market did work for a little bit, but I don't know. I just keep clearing out the caches and stuff. Maybe that has something to do with it.
Thanks for all your help!

amallama said:
Yea I am using App2SD. Im not sure what it is either. It works and then it doesnt sometimes. Its very strange. Reinstalling the Market did work for a little bit, but I don't know. I just keep clearing out the caches and stuff. Maybe that has something to do with it.
Thanks for all your help!
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Apps2SD = All of your applications will be installed and stored on your SD Card instead of the internal memory on your phone, thus supposedly increasing performance and such. It's best to have a a decent sized card, but also one labeled "Class 6", as it has the fastest transfer rates, so again better performance. I don't think Apps2SD is your problem, but for the hell of it... if you want, you could try disabling it.
**Before trying this, you need to back up your sd card -- meaning, copying all the stuff from the card onto your Desktop or somewhere on the computer before proceeding to the next step.
To do so; go into recovery and choose:
1. Partition sdcard
2. Partition SD
3. Press Home to confirm
4. Set Swap-size to O MB (Use trackball)
5. Set Ext2-size to 0 MB (Use trackball)
6. Fat32-size = Leave that to Remainder
7. Press Home to confirm.
This will FORMAT (erase) everything on your SD card, but not the phone. After its done, you can reboot, mount your SD Card and copy what you saved to the desktop back onto the SD card, like nothing ever changed. However, what did change is that your applications will no longer be saved to the SD card, but rather the internal memory on the phone.
Also, I would reflash the update.zip that I uploaded the other day and see if this Market thing happens again. If it happens again, I'd say you're better off running the Sprint RUU (bringing your phone back to factory settings) and then starting over from scratch, but that's just me.

Okay I will try that!

[HOWTO] Speed Fix! (variant of mimocan fix)

This is a quick walkthrough of how to apply my variant of "Mimicans speedfix" using my kernels on the Captivate. The speedfix essentially consists of making an ext3 or ext4 filesystem on an sdcard, and using that as our /data directory. This method is different from the original method in many of the details, but the underlying basis is that the stock /data partition is slow as molasses so we replace it.
This method should be pretty safe. As you will notice we dont copy around stuff and create a symlink mess. We just mount a partition over the current one. Yes we still mount the old one as well, even though it wont be used unless you take your card out. If that happens the phone will mount your old /data (that will probably be very out of date at the time) but itll get you up and running right away.
Right now there are two kernels, these mount the default partition, ext3 or ext4 on the second sdcard partition, the two options are:
Stock clock speed and Overclocked.
The overclocked kernel will clock from 100 to 800 Mhz as stock, then skippinig 1Ghz going to 1.2 Ghz.
Also, before we begin make sure you have this version of Odin. I used Samsung windows drivers that I found here.
You'll also want to read this thread about download mode. here you'll learn that you will have to try real hard to actually brick these phones, and even then it may still boot.
Ofcourse you also want to have root on your captivate.
You'll also need the android sdk.
If you are on Windows or Mac you will need some software to partition and format the sdcard, this live cd will work. You could also just get an ubuntu live cd or similar.
So, now we have the necessary tools and our new kernels and can get started.
Partition the disk:
There were reports from the modaco forums when mimocan first released his fix that ext3/4 partitions larger than 2gb were a problem, so keep your 2nd partition 2gb or smaller.
Use your favorite partitioning sofware to create 2 partitions on your sdcard. the first one will be formated FAT32 (vfat), and the second one ext3 or ext4. Make sure both are 'primary partitions'. You may want to make the second partition have partition type 83 (linux native).
Copy data files to sdcard:
If you are coming from stock, (eg without an existing a2sd /data partition on your sdcard) boot the phone without your formatted card and hotplug it before starting this process.
Using the sdk you need to connect the phone and use 'adb shell' to get a prompt on the phone.
Then follow these steps:
Code:
$
$ su -
# mkdir /sdcard/mnt
# mount -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 /sdcard/mnt
# busybox cp -a /data/* /sdcard/mnt
# umount /sdcard/mnt
# exit
$ exit
Flashing the kernel
1) Disconnect USB cable.
2) Open up odin.
3) Put your phone into download mode.
4) Connect USB cable, wait a second Odin should detect your phone, if not fiddle about with your drivers and reboot windows or something. This can be a real PITA.
5) In Odin load the kernel tarfile as "CSC"
6) Click "Start" in Odin, flashing should only take a few seconds.
You may run into issues here randomly and have a phone with the phone-!-computer image (I did!). Just go read up on the 'download mode' thread linked above it tells you how to proceed.
7) When you have booted your new kernel and /data partition you may have some issues with a few widgets/apps. Reinstalling or waiting/fiddeling with them seems to solve the issue. Maps was slow to open the first time after a new /data partition was mounted for me a few times, but subsequent launches were snappy.
If you want you may donate to my beer fund. It is not necessary but much appreciated

Didn't work for me. I partitioned my external SD card, flashed the speedup2 kernel, then ran the commands you posted, replacing 'ext3' with 'ext4'. My quadrant score is still in the low 900's.
Can you explain exactly what those commands do? The mimocan fix makes a lot more sense to me. Why did you decide to take a different approach?
Thanks for your help and effort!

I get 1716 scores in quadrant, but with real world running tests Touchdown and Dolphin HD browser still lag like holy hell.
I originally had the "method 2" hack (moving apps to the NAND) and that worked wonders, especially with these apps.
Can anyone test these two applications and see if there is lag for you?
Dolphin - try opening a new tab, closing it, and goto a large page and scroll with the volume buttons - it should all be smooth and quick
Touchdown - It should be very quick going between emails, I get a 5+ second delay before showing the email
Also in Quadrant, even though I get 1700 scores, do you guys get stuck at I/O Database writes for a good 3+ minutes?

The captivate speedup kernel link is dead. Can soneone please post a mirror? Thanks

Worked great for me using ext4 partition/kernel. It brought my quadrant to 1817! Thats with a poor little 4gig, class 2 micro sd card. Im also running the i9000 JM2 firmware with Samset 1.6.
Thank you for all your hard work!!!! My phone is now complete (for now lol).

andy2na said:
I get 1716 scores in quadrant, but with real world running tests Touchdown and Dolphin HD browser still lag like holy hell.
I originally had the "method 2" hack (moving apps to the NAND) and that worked wonders, especially with these apps.
Can anyone test these two applications and see if there is lag for you?
Dolphin - try opening a new tab, closing it, and goto a large page and scroll with the volume buttons - it should all be smooth and quick
Touchdown - It should be very quick going between emails, I get a 5+ second delay before showing the email
Also in Quadrant, even though I get 1700 scores, do you guys get stuck at I/O Database writes for a good 3+ minutes?
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Might be tome for you to pick up a new SD card. I have used both fix's and find this fix to be way better. I get no lag in Dolphin HD.

_Opiate_ said:
Might be tome for you to pick up a new SD card. I have used both fix's and find this fix to be way better. I get no lag in Dolphin HD.
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Its a brand new Kingston 8gb class 4 card, havent used it before applying this hack

Postal76 said:
Didn't work for me. I partitioned my external SD card, flashed the speedup2 kernel, then ran the commands you posted, replacing 'ext3' with 'ext4'. My quadrant score is still in the low 900's.
Can you explain exactly what those commands do? The mimocan fix makes a lot more sense to me. Why did you decide to take a different approach?
Thanks for your help and effort!
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All you do is copy the files from your original /data partition onto the root of your ext{3|4} partition on the sdcard. Then that is mounted on reboot ontop of /data so you can use the new data partition from your card.
I feel this is a MUCH cleaner method than the original Mimocan fix, that copis a full copy of data into the root of the device (unnecessary backup since you still have your original /data partition as well), then it mounts your sdcard on /disk and symlinks that to /data.
I just don't see the need for the symlinks and stuff and honestly I thought this was a simpler method, no symlinks or anything.
If you arent seeing any speedups I'm betting something didn't go right, you are probably still running of the old /data partition. Are you sure you are running the speedup2 kernel and not the ext4 only kernel?

spyz88 said:
The captivate speedup kernel link is dead. Can soneone please post a mirror? Thanks
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It seems to work from here...

_Opiate_ said:
Might be tome for you to pick up a new SD card. I have used both fix's and find this fix to be way better. I get no lag in Dolphin HD.
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Except the Quadrant scores do you notice any real speed boost?

andy2na said:
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Also in Quadrant, even though I get 1700 scores, do you guys get stuck at I/O Database writes for a good 3+ minutes?
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yeah database I/O takes forever still.
Like I said in the other thread, try to reinstall the apps, Dolphin is very very fast here (thanks for getting me a new browser btw.)

I'm still a complete failure and now i get stuck at the galaxy s boot screen

Nuke, after doing the ext4 only method, I only get quadrant scores of 900.
Am I doing something wrong? I go through all the steps fine and everything seems like it went well but it seems like I'm doing something wrong down the line.
one thing I do notice is that I have A LOT MORE AVAILABLE MEMORY in advanced task killer. I use to only have 100 now I have 180MB.
Is it crucial to have to flash the Speedfix2?

after i put in
busybox cp -a /data/*
nothing happens it just sits there

igm503 said:
after i put in
busybox cp -a /data/*
nothing happens it just sits there
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that part took like 15 min for me since I have a lot of application and app data

but there is no trailing dot it just repeats what i typed and then leaves a blank space

same thing it just repeats it

igm503 said:
but there is no trailing dot it just repeats what i typed and then leaves a blank space
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What do you mean by "there is no trailing dot" ? Did you type it in? You need to include the trailing dot in your command; based on what you posted it appears you did not do that.

WOW! Okay... So now I'm getting 1756...
You just have to leave Quadrant on for like 15 minutes sometimes! This is very strange!

Notice the period after the asterisk. In the old forum, someone had a problem with that.
I did this fix last night after countless times of my messing up and figuring out how to partition with my phone still being able to read the card, flash problems with Odin, etc etc. I'm using an 8gb Classic 6 and just got an 1805 in Quadrant, and the phone is incredibly, noticeably faster. Did have some weird app problems when it was first applied, but some reinstalls fixed it. Thanks again Nuka!
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[Q] Motorola Flipout rooted. How to apps2sd?

The Motorola Flipout is fairly easy to root, at least now. Universal Androot (get it here) works.
I am thinking about moving apps to the sd card. However, since I haven't reflashed the phone, and I don't have a ROM for it, I'd like to do it without reflashing. Is that possible?
If I partition an SD card correctly (ext3), copy all of /data onto that partition, and then mount that partition over /data, will that work? Or do I have to mount the card before the phone boots?
Or is it better to just copy /data/data, and mount the partition over /data/data?
It seems to me that mounting over a directory, as opposed to creating a link is least invasive, because on reboot the phone is as it was before. Is this right?
If I have to mount the sdcard before the phone boots, can I just edit one of the init scripts, or is that more complicated? I read about editing init.rc and repacking boot.img
Oh, HOWTO unpack edit and repack boot images seems to give good instructions. On the Flipout, boot is mtd4, and recovery is mtd5.
If I only modify boot, I can't brick my phone too badly? Since I haven't changed recovery, I should be able to recover (?). Can I create an update.zip that flashes the old boot.img and undoes my changes in case something goes wrong?

I just got the flipout from rogers.. Is there anyplace that has a development forum for it? And does it have the efuse ? If it does, is it possible to do what was done with the droid X to it?

How did go so far ghostwheel? I'm eager to hear what else you have figured out.

You use App2Card.apk at below for app2sd without flash:
http://www.tinhte.vn/f280/app2card-2-4-4-20-9-cai-dat-ung-dung-len-nho-phan-vung-456586/
Requires: just a rooted phone
Steps:
- install app
- click Menu / Partition button then use slide bars to create ext2 for your sd card if it hasn't been splited yet
- click Install App2card button
- phone will be rebooted and you just taste app on sd after then
Note: above page has further instruction but it is vietnamese, you must use google translate to get it. This app runs perfectly on my Milestone.
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ghostwheel said:
The Motorola Flipout is fairly easy to root, at least now. Universal Androot (get it here) works.
I am thinking about moving apps to the sd card. However, since I haven't reflashed the phone, and I don't have a ROM for it, I'd like to do it without reflashing. Is that possible?
If I partition an SD card correctly (ext3), copy all of /data onto that partition, and then mount that partition over /data, will that work? Or do I have to mount the card before the phone boots?
Or is it better to just copy /data/data, and mount the partition over /data/data?
It seems to me that mounting over a directory, as opposed to creating a link is least invasive, because on reboot the phone is as it was before. Is this right?
If I have to mount the sdcard before the phone boots, can I just edit one of the init scripts, or is that more complicated? I read about editing init.rc and repacking boot.img
Oh, HOWTO unpack edit and repack boot images seems to give good instructions. On the Flipout, boot is mtd4, and recovery is mtd5.
If I only modify boot, I can't brick my phone too badly? Since I haven't changed recovery, I should be able to recover (?). Can I create an update.zip that flashes the old boot.img and undoes my changes in case something goes wrong?
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Hi,
I'd really like to help with that (I'm a confirm dev. for Cliq and CliqXT phones).
Hopefully we can do great things like we did for Cliq and CLiqXT (upgrade to 2.1!). (check my work at http://bit.ly/adlxmod).
First thing would be to generate a system dump (a dump of all the files in the /system partition). Hopefully we then could generate a custom recovery to flash on the phone, and then custom roms, either base on the dump you provide or other roms from other files. Contact me on twitter @adumont (say it's for Flipout) and I'll guide you to generate the dump!
Looking forward to do great things for that litle phone!

I'm in touch with adlxdum to give him my dump but I think we should start a separated thread like "Custom rom, modding (work in progress)" so that we can follow adlxdum work.
And...thx in advance ;-)

flusshd said:
You use App2Card.apk at below for app2sd without flash:
http://www.tinhte.vn/f280/app2card-2-4-4-20-9-cai-dat-ung-dung-len-nho-phan-vung-456586/
Requires: just a rooted phone
Steps:
- install app
- click Menu / Partition button then use slide bars to create ext2 for your sd card if it hasn't been splited yet
- click Install App2card button
- phone will be rebooted and you just taste app on sd after then
Note: above page has further instruction but it is vietnamese, you must use google translate to get it. This app runs perfectly on my Milestone.
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Worked!
I couldn't repartition the SD card with the program, so I had to partition it myself. But once that was done, thing seem to work well. A bit slower...
I'm not totally sure how to use the app. Internal seems to still be full, but ext2 on the SD is quite empty. I can't seem to be able to tell if an app is installed to internal or external.
I have to try and install some more apps to see if I run out of memory.
Thanks!!

I'm guessing the flipout and charm are almost identical phones?
My wife has a charm and i'm one of those "i'm not a developer, but I'd like to help" guys.

MrShides said:
I'm guessing the flipout and charm are almost identical phones?
My wife has a charm and i'm one of those "i'm not a developer, but I'd like to help" guys.
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Yes, I think they are very similar.
One thing that I'm interested in is the accelerometer. On the Flipout, most apps that use it are twisted - for example wikitude, and many games (labyrinth lite works!) I wonder if things work on the charm...

the charm has the same issue.

MrShides said:
the charm has the same issue.
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thanks! Too bad....

Hi ghostwheel
I've tried installing app2card, but I'm having some problems. I got the new version 2.7.2.
As you said, the partition doesnt work. For me it says sd card is full but its empty...
How did you manually partition it?
I've found some tutorials but it was for other phones and they required a custom rom...

I partitioned the card using a linux computer, with the program fdisk.
I allocated 2GB to a partition of type ext2. But, I think there are many alternatives for partitioning a disk, see this page:
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f9/how-to-create-ext2-partition-14232/

Wow great link! Many different options! Will try this as soon as I get a micro sd card adapter. Thanks!
You mentioned in your old post that you were having problems using app2card, That you weren't sure if it was working. Have you been able to use it since? Is it working well? and if not have you found an alternative?
I just started using this phone and I'm almost running out of memory... this is quite annoying!

longlife_01 said:
You mentioned in your old post that you were having problems using app2card, That you weren't sure if it was working. Have you been able to use it since? Is it working well? and if not have you found an alternative?
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Yes, I was having problems. Mainly when restarting the phone, sometimes oodles of apps don't work, including launcher pro, and app2card. You have to remember that when the phone reboots and seems to have FC problems, don't chose any home screen as the default, in case it crashes, and keep a spare app2card to reinstall on the sdcard. I think "severe" problems I had only twice, or so.
So, I have almost no problems. Most of the time it works really well. So well, in fact, that I'm a bit afraid to upgrade it, in case something breaks. And, I totally forgot what it is like to have to delete apps to install another one.
I have more of the opposite problem - finding an app among all those installed takes a realllly long time if you forgot its name. Apps organizer helps.

hello, i am new and i have flipout to test in poland orange network, i just root him using 1st post in this forum, great job! thanks

OK, I am having some problems with the current version of app2card. As I said, sometimes when I turn the device off and back on, app2card fails, and many apps give a FC which starting. Then one needs to fix the apps from app2card. It seems that once that is done, some apps lose some of their data. So, for example, droidwall (excellent program!!), lost all firewall data. I'll have to check if newer versions of app2card don't have this problem. It doesn't happen very often.

Instructions to root Flipout
Hi - I'd consider myself a newbie regarding rooting. I just got the AT&T Flipout - I really like the form factor. I just tried running the Universal Androot from my phone but got the security warning message about only being able to install from trusted sources.
Can someone point me in the right direction please?
Many thanks!

it says that with a lot of apps installed like that, including gmote that I downloaded from the developers site. Just look at what you're downloading like you would on any machine

go to settings > Application and tick on unknown sources to be able to install it.

No room for apps a43IT uruk 0.7

Is there some way to partition the apps size larger? Can i delete something to gain more room? ive been googling and searching but cant find anything.

5 more posts until i can ask in dev board i guess
im hoping there is just some problem with the old default archos firmware and i can remove it. ive got some other problems now also but cant seem to find any similar issues.

Check your available memory. Settings/Storage
If it doesn't show much available memory you might need to reformat the device and try again.

tried twice already. when i load default archos firmware i can isntall apps fine, its only on uruk7 that i have no room.
My linux knowledge is pretty poor but im hoping someone can help me work through it.

eggs2000 said:
tried twice already. when i load default archos firmware i can isntall apps fine, its only on uruk7 that i have no room.
My linux knowledge is pretty poor but im hoping someone can help me work through it.
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This can be not an issue of free space - I guess this message can cover vast number of subjects.
What was your installation steps, how do you try to install this apps?

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This can be not an issue of free space - I guess this message can cover vast number of subjects.
What was your installation steps, how do you try to install this apps?
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I installed SDE in the first 5 seconds of my 43 being out of the box. THen i installed gApps from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867303
Then i installed uruk7 right after that. Just followed the steps you posted to the letter.

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I installed SDE in the first 5 seconds of my 43 being out of the box. THen i installed gApps from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867303
Then i installed uruk7 right after that. Just followed the steps you posted to the letter.
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So you used "Simple" method in installation, and used SDcard? Did you copy your /data folder?

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So you used "Simple" method in installation, and used SDcard? Did you copy your /data folder?
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I used advanced, left things as default and did not copy /data. I did internal isntall not SD.

should i try removing everything and installing uruk again?

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should i try removing everything and installing uruk again?
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This won't harm. But you've missed some of my questions and this makes helping much harder
You could clarify your free space by doing in terminal (if you don't have it - grab from appstore) or over ssh
Code:
df -h
This will tell you what is mounted on your device and how much spaces is used already. Application are installed in /data filesystem.

i just removed everything. ill try fresh sde and then right into uruk using the same steps as before.

Problem solved. I have nothing but uruk installed and i made large sized partitions when going through the advanced setup just incase.
thanks for the help along the way.

I just upgaded too, and I get the same no space response. However, I backed up all my apps to a folder and then I installed them on Uruk with no problems. It must be an issue with Market because AppLib and AppBrain (web) allowed me to install as well with no issues....

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Problem solved. I have nothing but uruk installed and i made large sized partitions when going through the advanced setup just incase.
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How large (for a first time) datafs partition did you choose and how big it was created? (just to check if it's not an error)
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I just upgaded too, and I get the same no space response. However, I backed up all my apps to a folder and then I installed them on Uruk with no problems. It must be an issue with Market because AppLib and AppBrain (web) allowed me to install as well with no issues....
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Market has limitation on 2GB datafs partition size. Please tell me what partition sizes did you choose during install and please give me output of this (ssh, terminal)
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df -h