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HTC Pure Rom upgrades - your results

I'd be interested to see how many of us upgraded rom on new Pure.
Which rom you used, performance improvements, battery life, problems etc.
Did you back up stock rom?
Andy

I'll usually run the stock rom for a few weeks then start playing. I'll be watching this thread!
What I have noticed is that on a lot of the popular roms, you'll see things like "landscape/rotate will not work", or you will see nary an ATT person in there, but lots of euro TD2 owners, etc.

I have the WWE AT&T Pure and had it stock for about 4 days and decided to flash to !Amen!'s R5 Ultimate ROM which had the new TouchFlo 3d 2.5 Leo interface. As much as I liked the new interface it was sluggish and I had a few bugs that kept me from liking it a lot. I then looked into "TESS's 3.6 WinMo 6.5 TouchFlo 2.1" ROM and switched to it and haven't looked back. It's coupled with the new radio and all it's signal goodness. I have had no issues with this rom and have thoroughly tested everything from data, tethering, bluetooth file transfer and stereo profiling, wi-fi strength and connection, gps, overall interface response time, multitasking, and video playback to the kicker -the battery life (which I am reporting is excellent, a full day of heavy use and it's at a little over half battery). All worked and I am proud to bring you the good news that if you are looking for a solid ROM to flash to then head to TESS's release thread for info. on his ROM and it's glory.

flashed my pure to energy ROM within 30 minutes of getting it, so while i cant comment on battery life, speed and stability is much better.

did the new rom affect your ability to use 3g?

gmarcoux said:
did the new rom affect your ability to use 3g?
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ROMs do not affect the radio so AT&T 3G will still work. Flashing a Radio would probably not change it either since the bands are in the chip and changeable by software. But don't take that last part for fact.

I have a Pure...running the latest stock htc Euro WWE 6.1 ROM until the official htc 6.5 ROM is out. Good Lord, when will it be here? I tried the official 6.5 ROM on my Touch Pro 2 and WOW!
FWIW, I noticed that I know have an H instead of 3G in the signal indicator. The AT&T ROM is so full of crap I just couldn't stand it. I am not big on cooked ROMs because there always seems to be something that bothers me...

Had my Pure for over a week now, played with stock ROM for only about half a day before replacing it with a cooked one. Tried multiple ones during my past week and here's my findings:
- Dutty's R4 (and R5) [WM6.5/Manila2.5]: The first one flashed to replace AT&T stock ROM, I really liked it for almost all the aspects. However, push mail sometimes does not push (which happened to Dutty's ROMs on my Diamond as well before) so I have to give it up.
- EnergyROM Leo [WM6.5/Manila2.5]: Pretty fast and stable, but the interface is not my cup of tea, and battery drains pretty fast on mine, so this one didn't stay too long.
- Tom Topaz Leo R2 [WM6.5/Manila2.5]: Very nice ROM, stable and fast, close to stock ROM in terms of interface (not too many customizations). Quite similar to Duttys but without the push mail issue. Battery life seems to be fair. This is the one I'm staying with.
- TESS 3.6 [WM6.5/Manila2.1]: A lot of people says it's good but didn't appeal to me. Forgot what was the exact issues but there were a few, so it didn't stay too long on my Pure.
- Nataly 3.0 [WM6.1/Manila2.1]: A very nice ROM, super fast and clean, just that it's a 6.1, I do prefer 6.5, so I switched back to Tom's ROM. But after a days use of this ROM, I liked its simplicity and performance. I'll probably try it again once the 6.5 version is released. Battery life is said to be super on this one but I didn't have enough time to test out. From my one day's experience it seems to be pretty good.

jimanywhere said:
Had my Pure for over a week now, played with stock ROM for only about half a day before replacing it with a cooked one. Tried multiple ones during my past week and here's my findings:
- Dutty's R4 (and R5) [WM6.5/Manila2.5]: The first one flashed to replace AT&T stock ROM, I really liked it for almost all the aspects. However, push mail sometimes does not push (which happened to Dutty's ROMs on my Diamond as well before) so I have to give it up.
- EnergyROM Leo [WM6.5/Manila2.5]: Pretty fast and stable, but the interface is not my cup of tea, and battery drains pretty fast on mine, so this one didn't stay too long.
- Tom Topaz Leo R2 [WM6.5/Manila2.5]: Very nice ROM, stable and fast, close to stock ROM in terms of interface (not too many customizations). Quite similar to Duttys but without the push mail issue. Battery life seems to be fair. This is the one I'm staying with.
- TESS 3.6 [WM6.5/Manila2.1]: A lot of people says it's good but didn't appeal to me. Forgot what was the exact issues but there were a few, so it didn't stay too long on my Pure.
- Nataly 3.0 [WM6.1/Manila2.1]: A very nice ROM, super fast and clean, just that it's a 6.1, I do prefer 6.5, so I switched back to Tom's ROM. But after a days use of this ROM, I liked its simplicity and performance. I'll probably try it again once the 6.5 version is released. Battery life is said to be super on this one but I didn't have enough time to test out. From my one day's experience it seems to be pretty good.
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Which HardSPL did you use to flash the ROMS?
on this one Topaz-HardSPL_V5_00R5_183HSPL my AV shows a virus and deletes it

I used the stock ROM for about a day, but like most everyone else, I don't like all the extra junk that AT&T puts in there, so I flashed right away. I first used the EnergyROM Leo, liked it well and may go back to it. However, after reading the benchmark spreadsheet, I decided to give Dutty's R5 a try, and have been happy with it. I like the eye candy look of the EnergyROM better, and generally, I can't tell much difference in speed between the two, though Dutty's benchmarks much faster.
Strangely, I found that the stock AT&T ROM was the most error-prone. I got a lot of Windows error messages (shell32.exe, I think) with it. I've managed to lock up both EnergyROM and Dutty's here and there.
I can't say much about battery time at all.

eltoro said:
Which HardSPL did you use to flash the ROMS?
on this one Topaz-HardSPL_V5_00R5_183HSPL my AV shows a virus and deletes it
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There are no viruses at all. Just turn off you AV and DL it. Do you have Norton? For some reason Norton sees it as a virus a lot. AVG did not for me. But there is no virus. Or I'm sure there would be hundreds of angry TD2 owners and you woulda heard about it.

HTC Touch Freak said:
There are no viruses at all. Just turn off you AV and DL it. Do you have Norton? For some reason Norton sees it as a virus a lot. AVG did not for me. But there is no virus. Or I'm sure there would be hundreds of angry TD2 owners and you woulda heard about it.
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Thanks for replying, and you are right I've Norton.......I'm going to try later... Cheers

Tried just about every rom available: energyrom, Showdowline's, Dutty's, and TESS rom. Out of all of them the TESS rom drains my battery the least and is still the most quick in response and rarely locks up or lags. The others have manila 2.5 and I just don't think the pure can handle it unless htc or att comes out with their own version for the pure/td2.

Ahh I can't wait until I get my Pure and start crankin out builds.

HTC Touch Freak said:
Flashing a Radio would probably not change it either since the bands are in the chip and changeable by software. But don't take that last part for fact.
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What do you mean "bands changeable by software"? If I'll install radio from Europe, will HTC Pure start support European 3G?

AT&T Pure results
I've had pretty good success with several of the most popular ROMs on the AT&T Pure, including TESS, Dutty, X-Treme2.V5, and some of the less popular ROMs too.
What I've found, though, is that in many of these ROMs there is a dialer glitch and a close-button glitch that probably is unique to the Pure.
The dialer glitch: When a voice call comes in, it seems that a third of the time, you cannot use the slider to actually answer the call. And when the call does answer, there is major lag between sliding and answering. I have no idea what causes this, but I've been looking for a ROM that doesn't have this glitch and haven't found one yet.
The close window glitch: This might or might not be unique to the Pure, but in a lot of ROMs, the close-window X in the upper right corner has a graphical glitch. When pressed, the highlight graphic actually appears to the left of the button, rather than beneath it. This is not a functional issue; it's an aesthetic one. But it crops up a lot in the ROMs that I've tested.
I also installed a reduced AT&T Pure ROM listed in another thread, but that was a work in progress and had broken aliases scattered around. I actually like the blue AT&T Pure interface, and I'm hoping that somebody will take that stock ROM and do a nice speed customization with it to cut out the bloatware and make it more responsive.

coldcarbon said:
When a voice call comes in, it seems that a third of the time, you cannot use the slider to actually answer the call. And when the call does answer, there is major lag between sliding and answering. I have no idea what causes this, but I've been looking for a ROM that doesn't have this glitch and haven't found one yet.
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If it's anything like the prior gen diamond for ATT, you will want to find a rom WITHOUT a slide to answer add on.
They were 100% not compatible with the phone, and did exactly what you described.... well if it even connected the call after waiting a while.
Most of those rom cookers are aware of the problem with the prior gen, maybe if you are having a problem, mention it AND mention you are on ATT. Looks like history is repeating itself.

syntrix said:
If it's anything like the prior gen diamond for ATT, you will want to find a rom WITHOUT a slide to answer add on.
They were 100% not compatible with the phone, and did exactly what you described.... well if it even connected the call after waiting a while.
Most of those rom cookers are aware of the problem with the prior gen, maybe if you are having a problem, mention it AND mention you are on ATT. Looks like history is repeating itself.
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Intersting. But isn't the slider the default for all dialers in Manila/Sense? This means I would have to go to Titanium to avoid this bug I guess -- unless there's some dialer mod that can patch a Manila/Sense slider. All the Manila/Sense ROMs I've tried have had this slide dialer.
Oh, and by the way, it's not just the slide itself that seems to be causing the problem. Actually pressing the physical send/talk button has the same effect when answering a call. That is, about a third of the time, it won't actually answer a call at all, or does connect but only after lagging for four or five seconds. Really annoying stuff.
Ths send/talk button issue might be related to the dialer glitch you're talking about, but I haven't done any testing with a dialer that doesn't use the slide-to-answer. Haven't seen a ROM that doesn't have the slider in the dialer.

Yup in my prior gen case, it was also the physical buttons. Sounds exactly the same!
The ONLY one that would work was a stock ATT diamond rom that someone took the bloatware out of, and left the stock answer buttons.
Is the slider modified in any way in each of these roms?
Do they use another slider in place of the manila slider?
Usually they give a list of the oem rom and the added or modified applications.
Sometimes, and actually a lot of times, they base their work on a euro rom version and call it WWE, that may not have the right drivers or whatnot for the ATT specific hardware.
It really does sound like the same issue all over again. But I'd ask in each of the rom threads and hopefully you'll get a quick answer!

Just finished some testing on Dutty's new Holy Grail ROM, and the results are good. Called my phone 20 times, and answered with the slider 10 times and send/talk physical button 10 times. All slides/presses connected the call immediately with no lag whatsoever. So unless my sampling is too low to be conclusive (perhaps the glitch will kick in less than 10 percent of the time) I think this is the ROM I will use for now.
Unfortunately, the graphics glitch with the close button (the highlight occurs to the left of the X rather than beneath it) is in this build. Plus, the built-in version of Bing doesn't work/launch. But these are small sacrifices to pay for a great all-around ROM that actually answers calls when you press the button or move the slider. Woot!

EVERYBODY WITH WORKING BUILDs (DUAL BOOT CONFIGURATIONS ONLY)

OK I would have to go to millon different pages to collect the info on who has what combo of wimo and droid working and what versions and fixes they are using.
SO PLEASE ANYBODY WITH GOOD COMBO BUILD (WIMO / DROID SETUP) ON HTC HD2 TMOUS, OR TMOUS COMPATIBLE
PLEASE LIST THE ROMS/RADIOS/HSPL/DROID BUILDS/ PHONE SPECS/ETC THAT MAKES UP YOUR SETUP
I KNOW THE ANDROID IS NOT FULLY RUNNING SMOOTH BUT I THINK WE NEED GOOD ENOUGH STABILITIES POSTED UP.
DONT HAVE A WORKING COMBO SO THIS WOULD HELP ALL NOOBS ALL AT ONCE
LIST THE GLITCHES YOU DO HAVE WITH YOUR COMBO SETUP TOO
FOR INSTANCE ALL IM REALLY WANTING IS A COMBO SETUP WHERE I CAN AT LEAST
MAKE/RECEIVE CALLS AND SMS SEND/RECEIVE, APP MARKET AND GPS AND WIFI WORKING IS A BONUS.
PERSONALLY I CAN WAIT FOR BETTER RELEASES THAT FIX EVERYTHING ELSE BUT I NEED THOSE THINGS AT MINIMUM

Go feed yourself, your know how to work a KEYBOARD obviously...

all of those are already working =b

Twiggerdingo said:
Go feed yourself, your know how to work a KEYBOARD obviously...
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I don't get what you are trying to imply. im not understanding sorry

He means instead of asking people to spoon feed you do some reading
sent from my hd2.

niiza said:
all of those are already working =b
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Nothing is really working fully, tons of people having issues and glitches only senior members seem to have things working well so thats the reason for the post what are you taking about!GG

if you would read any of the build pages they list ALL of the functions that are working..

im a total noob and my android build is working perfectly. there are going to be glitches but wifi works just fine, sms in and out work perfectly, calling works perfectly now. everything you asked for is ALREADY working

This is currently trial and error for most people, bit if you read through some of the Rom threads you will see what is working within each ROM. Most ROM posts also list a recommended WinMo ROM / radio combination to work best with their setup.
Personally I'm using an Energy ROM + mattc froyo rc 1.4 with sense + radio 2.12.50. Everything working in Android except WiFi tether and camcorder (the latter is fixed in rc 1.5)
Search and read the first couple of posts of each of the created ROMs we have. That should give you everything you need about each one.
Sent from my Android HD2 via XDA app

I have been running android perfectly for days now. (Bluetooth, gps, everything works for me.) Running radio 2.12.50 elegancia rom and mattc froyo build 1.5. It took a little bit of tweaking but once I read through all the posts and got the couple little fixes (a lot of searching, but worth it), I got it working 100% on every boot. Fast, no SOD, no issues. I can't wait until they do make this into a full rom, but even if they didn't, this is very stable.

Hey this would be to halp all noob
Its not spoon feeding S%$^& WTF r you taking about. i have been on here since friday morning didnt even sleep last night(seriously, broke night looking for just a few answers) i broke night reading and reading, trying to get somewhere before the work-weekdays hit
and even so WHY the F not whats the point of giving people the run around,
and on top of that even with everybody giving there by build setups still doesnt mean its gonna work for me. but at least its not a waist of time. for noobs like me
to be trying useless setups
whats the point of making noobs run around, then you guys complain about noods bouble posting and threading
I am a production designer, YOU'RE basically feeding the damn DOUBLE threading problem, since its so hard for noobs to find sh(t they go ahead and post a new thread,
then you idiots get madd because people are double posting
"ohh the question has already been answered" yea on like page 1367 of this one particular threads, the Q & A didnt really help me it was to specific nothing to do with enter working rom combos
the main freaking reason for dual booting is to get wimo and droid to work together successfully, WHY spread it across thousands of pages, State what works THEN break it down
felt like a read the bible, you got threads over 2000+ pages WTF juut because i want to slim THOUSANDS of pages to read to just 10 or so, thats called spoon feeding.
I love this site, because i went from absolute no knowledge in CELL phone modding
to having a very good understanding of it.
I HATE idiots like you with your damn egos,... yea help the damn noob once in a while you where once one to, PLEASE spoon feed us for fuqing once. Maybe this will stop alot of DOUBLE THREADING/POSTING

Hi Guys,
I had have a CleanEX Hyper Rom V9.0 from this Post #4
forum.xda-developers.com/ showthread.php?t=656835
with RADIO 2.08.50.05 and without any customations, just that ones from the cocked ROM.
I installed mattc Leo + Froyo w/Sense 1.5 on my SD (forum.xda-developers.com/ showthread.php?t=736545 )
It worked very fast without errors or hangs for a half day ( I tryed sms, phone, internet, some widgeds )
Awesome! no problems.
After that experience my battery was low ;-) ( I didn't used the fix ).
I hope you are able to understand my text, I had have no english practise.
Inspirator

inspirator said:
Hi Guys,
I had have a CleanEX Hyper Rom V9.0 from this Post #4
forum.xda-developers.com/ showthread.php?t=656835
with RADIO 2.08.50.05 and without any customations, just that ones from the cocked ROM.
I installed mattc Leo + Froyo w/Sense 1.5 on my SD (forum.xda-developers.com/ showthread.php?t=736545 )
It worked very fast without errors or hangs for a half day ( I tryed sms, phone, internet, some widgeds )
Awesome! no problems.
After that experience my battery was low ;-) ( I didn't used the fix ).
I hope you are able to understand my text, I had have no english practise.
Inspirator
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thanks you see, now noobs that are reading this have somewhere to start, this makes it soo noobs can find the style they like and see which will work with it,
THANKS YOU EVERY MOUCH!!!!!!!

TMOUS HD2
HSPL 2.08
Energy Dinik Winmo Rom
Radio 2.10.50.26
Mattc Froyo 1.5
Runs very well, with no problems at all aside from the known issues.

So far I've been really happy with:
WinMo: Dutty's C5 Premium
Android: shubCraft 1.1

Matt Leo Froyo 1.5 with AxLor Leo WM Rom and Radio 2.08.
Haven't rebooted since the built was released and pressed into my HD2.
Oh, my gf commented that my voice does not have echo anymore.

HSPL v2
radio: 2.10.50.26_2
Rom: Stock 1.66 Eastern Europe
Android Build: FroyoStone ( the last one from 07/08/10) with sense
No major issues with this configuration. Everthing works fast. The only real problem is the power consumption. It runs about 10-12 hours with average usage. Heavy usage drains it down in 3-4 ... There are some small problems as well - touchscreen inresponsive for a few seconds here and there, flash is working slower than the previous builds. The overall speed of the build is remarkably fast. Just brilliant work to cottula and darkstone !
The camcorder works flawlessly in 800x480 mode - i just love it

TMoUS
HSPL2
2.12.50.02_2
16 MB Class 2 SD (I think it's better to use a Class 6 speedwise)
darkstoneFroyo 1.7 (haven't upgraded yet)
Zimage -8/3
system.ext2 for gps fix
Energy Dinik 7/24 (haven't upgraded yet)
& Energy Titanium 7/14 with SPB using mskip Shellchanger
I have used JMZ Dualboot, not using it now, works fine both ways.
I'm not really having any issues. GPS, market, wifi works fine. Don't use bluetooth...all of the apps I usually use for Android work fine. I've been using almost exclusively Android now for a couple of weeks ( I do have 3 batteries though)

Thanks EVERYONE for telling what you have now i can use those as guide lines and see which i candy i like best for wimo and hope that it has sense, cuz without sense...makes no sense.lolol. corny but true
Hope fully people will continue posting so Noobs can understand there possible combos.
cant wait till all bigs are fixed and updates come in all for one patches, if they would do that.

HD2 T-Mobile US AxLor DF1 XLITE (23128)
ROM Darkstone HD2 FROYO v1 Build Cotulla 2.6.32.9#71 Kernal
Radio 2.10.50.28_2
HSPL 2
Android Loader v4.0
SetCPU 998 Max 614 Min That's about it.
Other than the system2.ext replacement for the GPS, there is nothing else. Calls are loud and clear, no robot talk, data pulls from 3G and HSPSA and switches seemlessly between my WiFi spots I hit throughout the day.
Also, if it matters... in WinMo is have all switches on under Comm Manager. Data, Phone, 3G, WiFi. And Data Roaming is on in Android.
Loving it.. I have been running it as my primary since July 27th, until the other day when I gave FROYOStones a shot. I restored my previous yesterday and it is back to the sweet spot.
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Sent from my HTC HD2 DROID.

[Q] Andriod -_-

Every Andriod build I try always has some BIG issue for me.
Mjeey's builds don't hardly work, HD 3.7 start force close all my apps, Revolution had Way to many problems, That red one with the numbers wouldn't get past the lock screen, The sense one didn't have any internet.
Dark stone dosen't have Navigation
Nexus build, just deteriated and started force closing, soding me all the time.
I want a build that works, 3g,wifi,Has to have Navigation, Camera, etc
I'm currently running Chunky rom the dark one
Radio 2.15.50.14
I've switched radios roms, reformated card between androids, tasked 29 and everything can someone please give me some advice

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Every Andriod build I try always has some BIG issue for me.
Mjeey's builds don't hardly work, HD 3.7 start force close all my apps, Revolution had Way to many problems, That red one with the numbers wouldn't get past the lock screen, The sense one didn't have any internet.
Dark stone dosen't have Navigation
Nexus build, just deteriated and started force closing, soding me all the time.
I want a build that works, 3g,wifi,Has to have Navigation, Camera, etc
I'm currently running Chunky rom the dark one
Radio 2.15.50.14
I've switched radios roms, reformated card between androids, tasked 29 and everything can someone please give me some advice
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MDJ's builds work perfectly for me, 3g, WiFi, Navigation & Camera all work for me.
They all worked on Darkstone's too for me.
My advice would be stick with WinMo if you're not happy with what's on offer

Get mattc's 1.8 and hastarin 8.1. With Chucky ROMs this runs smooth like butter. And everything is working.

sounds like force close issues due to trying to restore data from other builds? or leftover data being picked up off the card causeing corupted files.
all the builds you mentioned are pretty reliable builds, that leads me to belive issues lie on your end.
if it was me?
id do a full format, not the quick format in windows. better yet, do it in gparted! a linux machine will do a much better/cleaner job.

Launcher Pro = Sleep of Death?

Hello, i have attempted using the search function of this forum to see if anybody else has the same problem that i am having, so forgive me if this has already been discussed. If it has, please point me in the direction to a thread. If it has not been discussed, then any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
My HD 2 is running the latest energy rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784&highlight=energy+rom) and the version of android i run is MooMoo's rom based of Froyostone 3.2. My radio is 2.07.50.27_2.
I have no complaints with this combination. There is no robot voice, picture messages come in clear, everything is great. The problem i have discovered however is that whenever i try and use Launcher Pro (also tried ADW launcher), i get the sleep of death. If i uninstall these launchers, the phone works great. No SOD's whatsoever. If i reinstall and use one of these launchers, then the sleeps occur again.
Does anybody know what the problem could be? I like the way LauncherPro looks, its smooth as silk and i prefer it over the Sense UI, and if it were at all possible, i would prefer to use that launcher. If not, no big deal, ill just use sense, but if anybody could shed some light i would be greatful.

I have Energy 3.14 based GTX 2.5 WinMo ROM and Radio 2.15.50.xx. Before that I had 2.08 radio version with stock tmobile and my battery life in android sucked; than I switched to known good 2.12.50 radio - which was not that good for me; anyhow, I finally got all updates in and now my hyperdroid is running s m o o t h like no android phone on the market. Constant 3-6mA in stand-by which if changes, I uninstall apps I just installed as I found that news readers and power settings widgets, etc eat battery alive ... also, I do NOT have SetCPU installed.
HyperDroid 1.7 version I have is using mychprima's kernel that's OCd and UVd and it works like a charm. Never experienced SOD with or without using G-Sensor (which was known issue for older kernels I guess).
LauncherPro - well I do not think is the main reason for your SODs. I suggest that you get Energy ROM, Radio 2.15, Clean Froyo (not sense build) like shubcraft, hyperdroid 1.7, etc - and test it out then. Before you do all this DO FORMAT the SD card ... than post results here.
PS no worries this should take you about 45 minutes to do all this - and you are all set. I have been on my Android for weeks now without single force close or reboot

I have little doubt that your radio is to blame. Up the radio, freezes be gone.
J

well im attempting to use the hyperdroid as per your suggestion and i like it alot, but i have a gripe with the screen resolution. everything is too tiny, i would prefer to have everything back to stock size. how can i go about changing the resolution? i cant find a solution
EDIT:
Okay i figured out a way to change the screen resolution. Ill try to use this android build and the radio you have recommended and let you know how things are working out for me. thanks a lot

well so far so good. I am using your combination of rom/radio/android build and i havent had a single SOD. Using launcher pro also and it works like a dream. Although occasionally the touch screen will lag...which is kind of annoying, but not annoying enough to fully break using it. Thanks for the help!

Debating keeping the HD2, or going back to Nexus

Hey guys.. I love Android. I've ran so many different rom's and CM6 Nightly's n such on my Nexus One and I really love the phone. I love this HD2 also tho.
I've been using the HD2 with DarkStone FroYo for the last 10 Days or so. I must say I LOVE the HD2. It's a great phone, I love the screen and it's size, but hard buttons all being one piece of plastic was a bad move but thats about it.
Basically here's my issue. I have screen freezes that are a few seconds, or up to 10 allll day long. sometimes it will freeze and wont go into sleep mode for up to a minute (at least a few times a day) I lose my Data signal at least 10 times a day also. Sometimes it comes back, other times I need to Toggle Airplane on/off and my signal will come back.. Basically it's very smooth and awesome, then just craps. and this is extremely often and very random and it's starting to get very irritating. I wanna go back to my Nexus. I've also tried SkinnyEVO and had similar problems.. Are there any ROM's that are smoother and more stable, screen freezes and data drop-outs are really starting to irritate me knowing I wouldn't have these issues on my N1.
Should I wait for Nand to get going, should I try a few more ROM's. Is there fixes for these issues? Any info or suggestions would be great. I'd love to use this for a Daily phone, but in the current state it's a hard call.

Man Try MCCM 1.6 with updating kernel hastarin 8.5
it doesn't freeze at all.
everything work no bugs at all.
camera with zoom , face detection.
it is an awesome build

which radio u have and wim mobile u got ?

Darkstone has not updated his build for quite some time. Definitely try an updated build with latest kernels before giving up on the ole HD2. The touchscreen freeze has been eliminated with the newer kernels. I've been using the Motodroid build which has very good performance with the best working camera; no green tint, full 5 mp with working wide screen mode and shutter sound is selectable (which I have not found in any other build).

I don't know what MinMo build. I'll check, but I have the latest Kernel for the HD2. Kernel 2.15.50
I'll check what WinMo after work. Thanks for posts. I'll report back later

Do try a newer build, like the others said. I upgraded mine to hdone and replaced the kernels and i have yet to have my phone screen freeze. When i was using every other build with the old kernals, it froze all the time. Don't give up on your hd2 yet!

I think you have hit on 2 major issues the first screen freezes has been pretty much solved with the latest kernels with the g sensor fix. So try Hastarins 8.5 or mdeejays latest.
Second the data problems still exist but has been much improved with Letamas Ril Wrapper and other ppp tweaks ,see Letamas thread. if you try one of the newer roms they might have all above already in, so worth a try before going back to nexus.

I've been following Android on HD2 since August, and I've gone from all your problems and more to almost none (touch wood: my phone has begun to freeze today after three weeks of no problems - I'm hoping it's an installed app issue).
They are getting better and better and it's only battery life which remains an issue (for me).
Everyone's going to have different results depending on Radio/Location/Operator, but personally the MDeeJay Sense Revolutions (both types - Froyo and his other one), have worked very well for me, on Energy ROMS (currently the barebones one).
I can't promise Android on HD2 will always be flawless, but your two biggest gripes are certainly solvable on the right combination. (I hope!)

Change your SD card to a Class 6 and let us know.

Give up on the HD2, go back to the Nexus, send me your HD2

Scan my signature for my setup - I find it the best after changing at least 15 builds, 7 WinMo ROMs and 4 different radio combinations.
PS I am really stubborn guy, so that tells you that I've tried all possible combinations with above count of builds, roms, radios - and so far this one gives me what I want: HD2 with the Build that is smoothest and more stable than any Android phone I played around with so far... including nexus one

Thanks for all the information posted here guys. I appreciate it. I'll try mdeejay's latest and see how things go. (all of mdeejay's are Sense UI) I want stock Froyo
Another question. Can I copy everything from my Android Folder, to a New Android Folder for the new ROM I'm about to try, and have everything be exactly how it is now on DarkStone, or will that not work?

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Thanks for all the information posted here guys. I appreciate it. I'll try mdeejay's latest and see how things go. (all of mdeejay's are Sense UI) I want stock Froyo
Another question. Can I copy everything from my Android Folder, to a New Android Folder for the new ROM I'm about to try, and have everything be exactly how it is now on DarkStone, or will that not work?
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Titanium backup is your friend there. google for the wiki and read up on how to backup and restore.
Oh and if you don't like Sense, that's fine, just install whatever launcher you want, press the home button and it will ask you what launcher to use, tick the box for "use this by default" and sense won't come back to bug you. You can also remove the lockscreen slide by deleting the "HTCLockScreen.apk" via adb.
Just also to backup what others are saying, later builds like the one in my sig are far more reliable and useable, I get no data drops or any of the other problems you experience currently.

I know how titanium and all that works, thanks for trying to help though.
I just figured since everything is in the Android Folder, couldn't I copy it to another Android1 folder and boot to that build, and everything be there. but if not. It's ok. I'll just titanium backup everything instead.
I'm thinking about trying out BiffMod 1.2

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Hey guys.. I love Android. I've ran so many different rom's and CM6 Nightly's n such on my Nexus One and I really love the phone. I love this HD2 also tho.
I've been using the HD2 with DarkStone FroYo for the last 10 Days or so. I must say I LOVE the HD2. It's a great phone, I love the screen and it's size, but hard buttons all being one piece of plastic was a bad move but thats about it.
Basically here's my issue. I have screen freezes that are a few seconds, or up to 10 allll day long. sometimes it will freeze and wont go into sleep mode for up to a minute (at least a few times a day) I lose my Data signal at least 10 times a day also. Sometimes it comes back, other times I need to Toggle Airplane on/off and my signal will come back.. Basically it's very smooth and awesome, then just craps. and this is extremely often and very random and it's starting to get very irritating. I wanna go back to my Nexus. I've also tried SkinnyEVO and had similar problems.. Are there any ROM's that are smoother and more stable, screen freezes and data drop-outs are really starting to irritate me knowing I wouldn't have these issues on my N1.
Should I wait for Nand to get going, should I try a few more ROM's. Is there fixes for these issues? Any info or suggestions would be great. I'd love to use this for a Daily phone, but in the current state it's a hard call.
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You need to change you're SD card. I had gone through the same problem with A-Data class 4 sd card...but large waking times randomly spoiled the whole android experience....so much so that I gave up android...
But ever since I went back to replacement 16GB samsung SD card (which is ironically class 2) things have improved...and the phone wakes up instantly..
Also upgrade the kernel to hastarin v8.5.1 of ur build..it just solved all Data issues for me..maybe it will work for you too

I'm using the stock 16GB Class 2 Samsung that it came with. I have a 16GB Class 10 in my Nexus if we want to compare. but I'm not sure how large the SD class will really change things. Maybe a little.

I came to the HD2 from a Nexus.
I love my nexus... but wanted a larger screen.
Originally I had all the issues you commented... Id already sold my N1 so I really had to work on the HD2 working how I wanted it.
After flashing different roms, radio's, androids and kernels Ive finally landed where I am happy and in just the recent weeks with the tweaks the devs have done to their kernels my phone is rocketing and would never go back...
Only thing I do miss is the trackball and its colored notifications.

OP, you asked about overwriting your files, here's what I did...
I backed up my whole SD Card to my PC, so that I had my full working phone backed up just in case.
I then overwrite the contents of my old Android build with my new Android build, ignoring the data.img file.
Then re-booted, and Voila! EVERYTHING (apps, settings, wallpapers etc) came back, but my ROM was faster and smoother and upgraded.
This was switching from one ROM-maker to an entireley different one (both were Android 2.2 though).
If this had failed, I could have wiped my SD card, and made a choice between trying a fresh new Android, or using my SD Card back-up. If I'd had to go fresh, I'd know my Google Account would hold my contacts and purchased app settings. The AppBrain app is also useful in this regard.
Have fun!

im in a similar situation. i got me a secondhand nexus one, to try how android runs on a native device. i walked around with it for some days now, and i think im soon going back to my hd2, cause I CANT GET USED TO THE SMALL SCREEN ON THE NEXUS XD
really. not.
android on the hd2 runs almost as smooth as on the nexus one, i dont even cared in choosing the right build for my hd2, i just picked froyostone, and thats it xD
so yea, in the end, the only thing i really love on the nexus one is the awsome trackball, with its different colours :3 omg i want that on my hd2... ;(

i was having the freezing problem when i was using energy rom with the stock sd card when i flashed to the newest tmobile rom all of my freezing went away so if you have that problem try the newest tmobile rom it worked for me