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Froyo. I know again.

Just wanted to say that I'm sick and tired of waiting on froyo, everyone has already gotten it or is in the process of getting it. Even the mytouch3g. Anyone who knows any valuable information on this please post and let us know. And by valuable info I mean when we will be getting it
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Well apparently we are getting it next month sometime.

Kamar234 said:
Well apparently we are getting it next month sometime.
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Says who? The Europe upgrades are getting pushed back till next month, and our will come well after that.

Samsung tweeted that froyo updates will roll out in November and all phones should have it by end of November.
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This is true. Its reported on engadget today that the initial froyo updates where pulled due to "not awesomeness" but that Samsung promised increased performance along with all the other good **** that is froyo
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Samsung tweeted that froyo updates will roll out in November and all phones should have it by end of November.
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Nevermind, read the new post

Well then, a new post is up from Engadget. This one does sound good

Our update will come from Verizon, not Samsung, so ignore any and all release dates in press releases from Samsung that do not mention Verizon or the Fascinate by name.
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Our update will come from Verizon, not Samsung, so ignore any and all release dates in press releases from Samsung that do not mention Verizon or the Fascinate by name.
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The update may come from Verizon, but I'm guessing that they give Samsung a list of what they want the update to include (bloatware, settings, etc.) and Samsung is the one responsible for getting the update out with Verizon's specs. While I'd agree that you can't believe it until it's mentioned specifically, if they say all carriers and actually mean it, then it's better than nothing.

So after much thought I have decided to at least keep this phone until LTE. It has probably the most truly capable hardware ever put n a phone. The CPU/ Gpu is great. The camera/ camcorder is second only to iPhone. Screen is great. But Samsung lack of support for their products is discouraging at the least. The phone came out after phones with froyo(D2 ) had already launched. I love this phone. See why people hate Samsung
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If we are rooted, will the update take without doing something special?
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more than likely not. As I am sure you have removed the bloatware. In all I would say the easiest thing would be to Odin back to stock with Odin(when the update comes). That would ne the easiest.
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Samsung not charging carriers.

http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=7346
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Yay! .......

That's funny that they point that out. Did anyone receive the free update that Samsung Doesn't Charge Carriers?
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OuncE718 said:
That's funny that they point that out. Did anyone receive the free update that Samsung Doesn't Charge Carriers?
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Let's look. Hmmm. Nope.

The only way they might be able to make it up to most of us is by going straight to Gingerbread or by offering every Vibrant 3g owner a more than 1/2 percent discount on the new Vibrant 4g with the return of the current Vibrant 3g.
My biggest issue with Samsung is the lack of being straight forward/direct with us. Every question they've been asked about the update or rumors about our Vibrant being able to utilize 4g speeds Samsung won't even say yes or even deny it. It definitely makes me wonder. Its sad cause they definitely make great hardware (minus the gps issue). They probably hesitant on releasing Froyo 2.2 because the release of Froyo will prove that the gps issue is hardware based.
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So what is holding the update sammyy?
Btw samsung don't make promises it will look bad if you don't keep ur promises you know...like the promise you made months ago? About froyo update? I guess soon means 6months to you, sammy.
Trolls, if your gonna reply to this msgs saying stfu, stop whinning w/e go ahead, im not coming back to this thread
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Ice Cream Sandwich is coming!

Google and Motorola and AT&T have partnered to bring quick and latest updates to the Atrix for 18 months past release date! That means we'll be getting all os updates between now Sept. 2012!
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In 18 months this phone is going to hopelessly old and outdated, no matter what software the release.
And I think that statement refereed to new phones.

There's another thread talking about this already. The answer is that it's not guaranteed. This only applies to NEW devices being released. Since the Atrix was release a couple of months back, this doesn't apply.

In 18 months it will be running the same version as brand new devices released during that time.
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LordOfTheSnatch said:
Google and Motorola and AT&T have partnered to bring quick and latest updates to the Atrix for 18 months past release date! That means we'll be getting all os updates between now Sept. 2012!
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NOT TRUE! Watch it again, he said "..all new phones..". I would assume that means from today on out. They also used the words "hardware has to allow the update". So speculate all you want but dont post incorrect statements like they are fact.

Yeah I started my post, had to run and didn't know there was a similar post before I hit submit.
New and capable...atrix fits that bill.
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Let's all hope we get Ice Cream Sandwich.
http://briefmobile.com/android-ice-cream-sandwich-unites-phones-and-tablets-in-q4-2011

No. The Atrix doesn't. Is it capable? Probably, but it's definitely not new i.e. new and capable vs. new OR capable.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-clarifies-18-month-android-upgrade-program-details-far-f/
Here's an updated Engadget article. If you notice they specifically mention that this applies to new devices only. There's no guarantee ICS for the Atrix, unless Moto comes out and says it. Anyway, more clarification on this subject would be great.

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Theres no reason to worry if we get it or not. If we do then great. But why are we worrying about this when we havnt even gotten gingerbread. I'll be happy with a dual core friendly OS. By the time ICS is ready we will all be upgrading or upgraded already.

I think 18 months is when we are going to get the update

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I think 18 months is when we are going to get the update
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to 2.3

I'd be willing to bet 2.3 hits early to mid June. Not known fact but given the quickness they've already released updates for the Atrix, they really have little reason to hold out on this.
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I'd be willing to bet 2.3 hits early to mid June. Not known fact but given the quickness they've already released updates for the Atrix, they really have little reason to hold out on this.
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Would you be referring to 2.3 Gingerbread or ICS? Although google never gave ICS an official number (AFAIK), for all we know it'll be 2.3.X. If your referring to Gingerbread, that would make sense, in theory, but as Moto got Honeycomb early, for all we know they could have gotten ICS before Google oficially announced it and they could be putting the final touches on it right now. But that is all hopeful speculation.
More likely than not we'll get ICS around July to August.
Just my 2 cents.
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I bet I can have 2 kids with the same woman before we get 2 updates to the core android os.

God I hate all the naysayers always trying to be negitive. There is a very good chance that this will apply to us.

I think Atrix does fit the bill. When the SGS2 arrives on ATT ...that would be a "new" release. Does that mean GS2's hardware is that much newer than the Atrix? If the SGS2 gets these updates...I'm sure the Atrix will too...
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I wouldn't get too excited. They don't even know how they are going to accomplish this yet. It's nice to see an effort from carriers and Google, but this is just something they threw together to present at I/O. There are no details.
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More likely than not we'll get ICS around July to August.
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I need to amend what I said earlier. I have done a bit more research and have come to find ICS slated for Q4 so about then we should get ICS (October maybe? A birthday preasent for me? ). We *may* see GB in th July/August mark.
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Atrix hardware will clearly support it. There will be newer phones released in the next 6 months...and pretty sure the hardware won't be better than the Atrix. How many dual cores are on the market now? Moto set the bar with Atrix...upcoming phones are trying to match it or make it look "better" by overlooking their chips
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How about our vibrant???????

Are we gettin an update for gingerbread 2.3 tru samsung kies? i read that sgs gt-i9000 got the update already.... Is that the official? are we gonna get that to for our sgs vibrant... Thanks....
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I was wondering the same thing!

I9000 was the 1st SGS and is also unhindered by carriers restrictions.

The us will get 2.3 on the us galaxy s phones when the carriers decide they want to release it.
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Ask yourself: Knowing Samsung, would you really want download the stock version of 2.3 thru Kies or wait for one of our awesome devs. to get a hold of it and make it better (I'm counting on you Team Whiskey). I rather wait since I'm running flawless BionixV1.3.1 I'm in no hurry.

Bionix 1.3.1 is awesome lol
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Oh I got it... So our carriers will make the last decision if were gettin the official update.im thinking tmobile wont give us the update. Cause nobody will upgrade there phone if our vibrant will get gingerbread and tmobile wont get any contract renew from all thier virant customers. Cause,im now upgrading to any new ginger phone that they have I git official update...
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Another poll: When will we see an official Epic 4g Gingerbread distribution?

I hope Gingerbread is actually released one day with source and that it will be possible to make the alterations such as removing CIQ that were done with Froyo.
Time will tell.

Its coming, samsung/sprint will not just drop all the $$ they did, and then not put out a relase
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We will get it. The new Conquer has it and it is basically an Epic. I think they want to resolve the reboot issue that has plagued new Gingerbread releases from the start. Then they can wash their hands of the Epic and not worry about any more maintenance releases.

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Its coming, samsung/sprint will not just drop all the $$ they did, and then not put out a relase
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This. Too all those who doubt, read again.
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Not tried the leaks but it seems like the only real remaining issues are the reboots and the GPS. Can't understand why the issues exist for what's now legacy hardware, but once they fix them we will get it officially. I'm not concerned about that.

DroidApprentice said:
Not tried the leaks but it seems like the only real remaining issues are the reboots and the GPS. Can't understand why the issues exist for what's now legacy hardware, but once they fix them we will get it officially. I'm not concerned about that.
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Well what concerns me is that there doesn't seem to be much improvement from the last few leaks..
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It's coming, but I voted later.

I'm gonna guess that I'll get my GS2 in Nov before the Epic gets Gingy
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Zeinzu said:
I'm gonna guess that I'll get my GS2 in Nov before the Epic gets Gingy
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Wouldn't doubt it hah
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Its amusing how Samsung can drop the ball yet again on another release.....
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I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.
I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.
Just my IMO.

I want an Epic2 so bad right now, I think the last rdf pushed me over the line I'm affraid to say...

I wish the epic2 had a keyboard. I'm probably going to hold off on getting any new phones until the next good android with a slide out keyboard. in the meantime I really wish they would put out source to our Dev's who seem to have a much better handle on debugging and let us get our cyanogen on. Hell with a good cyanogen 7 rom I probably wouldnt get a new phone for another 2-3 years.

Agreed, I mean I have to face the facts, Ill have this phone for at least 1 more year, and I'm sure longer, since Ill probably wait till the next "thing" comes out after I'm eligable for an upgrade.

Zeinzu said:
I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.
I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.
Just my IMO.
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I agree here. The International version has reportedly received timely updates. I don't know if they were referring to 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 or an incremental bug fix upgrade but supposedly they don't have this issue. I can't resist anymore. I went to the Sprint store and the Manager is going to hold one for me until I get there on launch day. Maybe having 2 active phones is excessive but I can't wait until my upgrade comes. Also, I am not ready to get rid of my Epic. I still love this phone.
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Verizon??? The company with the last Galaxy S phone to get updated? The single carrier not to have any SIGN of the gingerbread update ever coming out for their Galaxy S phone? The carrier that believes that the Droid Charge is a suitable replacement for THE GS2? Sprint is probably the best carrier to bet on for upgrades to non "Droid" phones...
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Its amusing how Samsung can drop the ball yet again on another release.....
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qb , maybe you should send a "how-to" video to Sprint/Samsung showing 'em how to get Gingerbread fixed and released

I blame us having a keyboard. Look how fast the other Galaxy S (not counting the 2 on Verizon) devices got 2.3.x.

Zeinzu said:
I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.
I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.
Just my IMO.
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Your opinion is GARBAGE lol
My friend has the fascinate and he hasnt seen an update since the half assed froyo update they got. Lol im not a commie. Youre entitled to your opinion, but it needs to be backed up with facts lol
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bondosho said:
I blame us having a keyboard. Look how fast the other Galaxy S (not counting the 2 on Verizon) devices got 2.3.x.
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Look how fast the g2 got it
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