Hi guys... DEVS
Why aren't any NON-undervolted Android builds being released?
Many people have HD2's where the CPU cannot be undervolted/overclocked and if they try any of the current Android builds their HD2 will reboot or be very unstable!! I think that could be why we have so many "reboot threads" floating around.
Best way to make sure users don't have problems with your builds is to provide the non-undervolted version by default and let people change the zImage to an overclocked/undervolted version if they wanna push their luck. Stability should be the number one priority and in my mind and overclocking/undervolting certainly doesn't add stability... instead you'll have a bunch of people wondering Android doesn't work on their HD2's.
I think that for many nOObs it's difficult to first download a build just to discover that it doesn't work, then trying to figure out that it's because they're running the wrong kernel, then trying to figure out how to change the kernel, pushing files etc etc... you get my point I hope Also supporting extended batteries should be included by defaults nowadays since that's another source of confusion as to why their Android builds won't work.
Just my 2 cents... /Tubgirl
Tubgirl said:
Many people have HD2's where the CPU cannot be undervolted/overclocked [...]
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Why? And how can one find out that his/her HD2 cpu cannot be undervolted?
Hastarin started releasing this type of kernel, without overclocking, undervolting or axi included, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787588
Since it's the only custom kernel I'm using I can't point you to others but I also know that the 'official' kernels from Netrippers' autobuild site, http://oe.netripper.com/files/htcleo_autobuild_evo_tree/ are also without any modifications but they don't include extended battery support or interactive governor for example.
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Why? And how can one find out that his/her HD2 cpu cannot be undervolted?
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The answer to "Why?" is that you have small variations between each CPU from manufacturing. They are very small variations but they are enough to cause some CPU's to become unstable if you go outside the manufacturer's specs when it comes to voltage or clock frequency.
If you have problems with reboots then "how to find out" is a matter of trying a non-undervolted kernel and see if Android becomes more stable. But as I said... I wish developers could release rock-stable Android builds that can work on everybody's HD2's... not just the lucky ones with overclockable/undervoltable CPU's.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
Ah, will it not affect battery life? I just remember i didn't seem to experience sudden lags or reboot with the first batch of android builds (there hasn't been custom kernels that time i think) i used xtarantula's before.
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Ah, will it not affect battery life?
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Yes, maybe but that's still better than not being able to run Android at all.
/Tubgirl
The short answer to this question is demand. More people want undervolted than not. You can change kernels if it fails for you. It's all supply and demand I'm afraid. As the old saying goes "you can't please everyone"
You are right though it would be nice if they included a standard kernel build as well but the devs put in a massive amount of work as it is and its easier for you to change the kernel that's all.
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No need for "builds" to be duplicated like that...all that is required is untouched kernel...
I run the Stock Evo one for HD2 from here and NO SOD/reboots/data hangs and equal battery life even without setcpu and taskkillers.
Try it...(Not suitable for CM6 builds)
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No need for "builds" to be duplicated like that...all that is required is untouched kernel...
I run the Stock Evo one for HD2 from here and NO SOD/reboots/data hangs and equal battery life even without setcpu and taskkillers.
Try it...(Not suitable for CM6 builds)
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Will that work with extended batteries?
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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Will that work with extended batteries?
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No. The only "support" atm for extended batteries is in modified kernels such as my kernel (huanyu added support based on mine in one of his too) and michyprima's.
Since both are essentially "hacks" (at least mine is not 100% accurate for temperature) I'm afraid neither is likely to make it in to the main tree.
Moved to Android General discussion for HD2 as not development
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No need for "builds" to be duplicated like that...all that is required is untouched kernel...
I run the Stock Evo one for HD2 from here and NO SOD/reboots/data hangs and equal battery life even without setcpu and taskkillers.
Try it...(Not suitable for CM6 builds)
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This might be a dumb question, but how do we know which zImage to use from that list? Do I just grab the last one that says latest? I'm running the MDeejay Evo build. The SOD and data hangs have made these new builds unusable for me.
Finally a NON-undervolted Android build that works out of the box. As a big bonus extended batteries are supported as well... and it's fast as hell
Have a look... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9789864
Brgds... /Tubgirl
Tubgirl said:
Finally a NON-undervolted Android build that works out of the box. As a big bonus extended batteries are supported as well... and it's fast as hell
Have a look... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9789864
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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Don't you realise that undervolting is part of the kernel? It has nothing to do with the build.
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Don't you realise that undervolting is part of the kernel? It has nothing to do with the build.
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Yes I realize that, but so far the chefs have chosen to include undervolted kernels causing trouble for people like myself.
Now we have a chef that goes for stability and has included a kernel that should work for everybody!
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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Yes I realize that, but so far the chefs have chosen to include undervolted kernels causing trouble for people like myself.
Now we have a chef that goes for stability and has included a kernel that should work for everybody!
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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It's a very simple process to replace the kernel with another one of your choice.
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It's a very simple process to replace the kernel with another one of your choice.
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Exactly!! So if you want to tweak and try undervolting/overclocking you can replace the kernel if you want to... IMHO the included kernel should be as stable as it possibly can
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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Exactly!! So if you want to tweak and try undervolting/overclocking you can replace the kernel if you want to... IMHO the included kernel should be as stable as it possibly can
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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Yes and the point is that it is as stable as it can be for the vast majority of us. The minority (you) who have reboot issues etc have the choice to use different kernel then what the majority uses.
Why on earth should the majority have to conform to the minority?
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Why on earth should the majority have to conform to the minority?
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It's not a matter of having to "conform". It's better to have a build that works for everybody than just the majority (again IMHO). It's nice for the Chef not having to deal with a bunch of posts like "My phone reboots with this build" or "Why does my HD2 freeze?"
To cite myself from my first post in this thread:
Best way to make sure users don't have problems with your builds is to provide the non-undervolted version by default and let people change the zImage to an overclocked/undervolted version if they wanna push their luck. Stability should be the number one priority and in my mind overclocking/undervolting certainly doesn't add stability... instead you'll have a bunch of people wondering why your build doesn't work on their HD2's.
I think that for many nOObs it's difficult to first download a build just to discover that it doesn't work, then trying to figure out that it's because they're running the wrong kernel, then trying to figure out how to change the kernel, pushing files etc etc... you get my point I hope. Also supporting extended batteries should be included by defaults nowadays since that's another source of confusion as to why their Android builds won't work.
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Brgds... /Tubgirl
i am truely sorry for you having problems.. but this thread looks to me like another "i want i want, do it for me" thread. I dont want to be rude, but do you really think that would stop people asking "weird" questions? Even if there would exist a perfect uber build or something, people wouldnt stop asking "weird" stuff.. human nature i guess
i have a different view on things here. i like the "harder" (search, read and try) way, that makes me learn something. So, the way cheffs create and release builds cant be that bad
learning english is also a good thing for me, i guess
cheers
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Default Which ROM should I download?
I am currently running CyanogenMod 5.0.5.3 on my nexus one. However, I am eager to try something new. The reasons for switching are due to some stability issues with the ROM.
My checklist is quite small:
1) built in tethering
2) easy of use
3) very reliable and stable
Optional
2) would prefer support for Persian/Arabic font. however, it' is not essential
Any ideas?
you can try Enomther's latest release (1.9.2) released today; very stable with bunch of features; check out his changelog in the development section
If you want bunch of features, try Cyanogen's...
dont ask.....different ppl....diff opinions.... diff tastes.....try them....there are not many
Why not just wait for Froyo? Tethering out-of-the-box.
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dont ask.....different ppl....diff opinions.... diff tastes.....try them....there are not many
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+1 agreed...
He's posting this across multiple boards trying to get answers... as I told him on another board:
Run over to XDA and read the posts on the ROM's out there and look at the feature lists.
You really should do the legwork yourself as other have.
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The time spent to make an account and spam all these boards with this post could have been used to read the feature lists and decide on a ROM for himself.
As chowdarygm said, there are not many...
HI - well you have a decent amount of choice if you're using the nexus one. I tend to stick with roms from either @cyanogen or @kingklick92 i.e the CM rom or Desire Port respectively.
I made a blog post about it - have a read and maybe it will help with your decision.
Moving on from that there are a few enhancements you can apply to the ROM's, specifically you can 'undervolt' your ROM to save some power by moving across a new kernel.
I've tried loads of them to be honest - as earlier posters have said, the Nexus one development forum here at XDA is a great place to start, there is a stickie with a ROM list - a good start.
thanks, I appreciate it. I am still a newcomer.
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HI - well you have a decent amount of choice if you're using the nexus one. I tend to stick with roms from either @cyanogen or @kingklick92 i.e the CM rom or Desire Port respectively.
I made a blog post about it - have a read and maybe it will help with your decision.
Moving on from that there are a few enhancements you can apply to the ROM's, specifically you can 'undervolt' your ROM to save some power by moving across a new kernel.
I've tried loads of them to be honest - as earlier posters have said, the Nexus one development forum here at XDA is a great place to start, there is a stickie with a ROM list - a good start.
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dont ask.....different ppl....diff opinions.... diff tastes.....try them....there are not many
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I agree try them all. Im loving Kang's
blowe46 said:
thanks, I appreciate it. I am still a newcomer.
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No problem at all, if you want any more advise , let me [email protected] or blog comment
Try Kang-o-rama...
New beta is based on CM 5.0.7, includes an OC/UV/21MB kernel, mods, optimisations and some great apps.
The best thing is that it installs in one hit, works together and is nice and quick.
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Try Kang-o-rama...
New beta is based on CM 5.0.7, includes an OC/UV/21MB kernel, mods, optimisations and some great apps.
The best thing is that it installs in one hit, works together and is nice and quick.
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+1 .
i keep trying all roms but at the end of the day, will be coming back to this rom
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+1 .
i keep trying all roms but at the end of the day, will be coming back to this rom
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Same here. The only mod I make to it is swapping out HelixLauncher or whatever it is for Launcher Pro, which seems to be much more stable.
I stick to the Cyanogen-based stuff because it's the standard, and also because I had a hell of a time dealing with those KingKx roms for my old G1. I was flashing and wiping so much my ass was raw, and Cyanogen roms are usually wipe-free.
hey guys im new to this forums, im running cm612 on my evo. and im trying to figure out whats the best kernal and rom to run. If some one can give me a few combos it would be great.. thanks
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hey guys im new to this forums, im running cm612 on my evo. and im trying to figure out whats the best kernal and rom to run. If some one can give me a few combos it would be great.. thanks
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kernels can be subjective not all electronic componets are not equal, so some people get better results with agggressive HAVS and some get better with not HAVS and so forth.
Best way to do is try try different variants of types, and always nandroid before flashing. Also CFS kernels are typically for SEnse based ROMS and BFS are reserved for AOSP
Check out the Snap Kernel, that's supposed to be pretty good with CM. I agree with BrianDigital too, every evo is different. Some peoples EVO will do well with a kernel that someone else's did poorly with. Just try different ones, do a lot of reading, and find the ones that you like the most.
ok thanks guys is there a site that tell me which kernals support which roms?
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ok thanks guys is there a site that tell me which kernals support which roms?
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it will be under the android development sub section of the our evo forums.
The header for the thread should state its a kernal and what varient it is. if your really unsure there is alot of text in there just make sure it is for either a sense based rom or AOSP and backup before flashing. I have flashed tons of them without reading the whole opening post but YMMV
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ok thanks guys is there a site that tell me which kernals support which roms?
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Hey just saw this and wanted to say myn 5 just came out and it is awesome. I am currently just trying the kernel it came with but so far I am at 11 hours with mod use and 47% left.
Remember always: You can try them all and see which is best for your phone and personal use!
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Snap or Ziggys kernel.
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i have found the kernel that ships with CM6 is one of the best, followed by Zendroid 1.0.2 BFS-AVS, each kernel can have different effects on different devices, just make sure whatever kernel you try is for AOSP based roms.
also, watch out for the kernels with SBC (battery charging mod) built in, there are reports of battery issues. just something to keep in mind. some people are ok and some people are having their battery overheat.
I'm using Hyperdroid atm, what is the best ROM right now?
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I'm using Hyperdroid atm, what is the best ROM right now?
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Hi,
Please refer to my sig...guide number 1
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Hi,
Please refer to my sig...guide number 1
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Alright, but which do you think is better of the two?
TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 or Hyperdroid cm7?
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Alright, but which do you think is better of the two?
TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 or Hyperdroid cm7?
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Bump, anyone knows which is better?
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Bump, anyone knows which is better?
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depends on your definition of "better" and "best"
greg17477 said:
depends on your definition of "better" and "best"
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I'd like to know which one is better.
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I'd like to know which one is better.
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Hi,
I think you will find that NOBODY knows which ROM will be best for you.
Only YOU will be able to make that decision...
Did you actually read my thread?
Best Android
Hi.
If you can live without Htc Sense then the best rom is American Android Cynogen Mod 7.
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I'd like to know which one is better.
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test them for yourself that is the only way you will find out
instead of making another thread.
what is the best in terms of:
stock or cm7 (no sense)
camera bt wifi hotspot of course everything working
best battery life in use. pretty much every rom gets 3 to 7 in standby (except i still get random jumps to 60 sometimes)
but it varies between roms some in use get me 150 and others go to 400.
so whats the best battery life currently?
I've got a better idea. Get off your laziness, stop asking people questions you can find the answer for, and do something. You're sitting on a chair already, so do some typing, clicking, are your fingers that tired, weak? Is it that hard to simply try out a different rom? Or do you find the need to clog up the forums with a useless thread?
I apologize if this is hurtful, but I think such ignorance demands it.
Kailkti said:
I've got a better idea. Get off your laziness, stop asking people questions you can find the answer for, and do something. You're sitting on a chair already, so do some typing, clicking, are your fingers that tired, weak? Is it that hard to simply try out a different rom? Or do you find the need to clog up the forums with a useless thread?
I apologize if this is hurtful, but I think such ignorance demands it.
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Don't apologize to him/her....your meaning to be an ass.
As for a serious answer....there are 4 builds I'd suggest. NAND: typhoon cm7, hyperdroid. SD: ACA(cope and my creation) and miui.
Stay away from mccm builds. The person fails to build from source thus has limited control over the builds he/she steals.
Lots of choices overall. See what gets your attention.....the ones I laid out are great for starters and often times the ones people end up going with.
Nuff said.
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I love lamp.
ACA
I'm using AmeriCan Android, SD build, can't be happier with it, it's fast and updates frequently and the devs are very nice. But pick a few roms and test yourself, see which one you like the most.
avl_avl_avl said:
I'm using AmeriCan Android, SD build, can't be happier with it, it's fast and updates frequently and the devs are very nice. But pick a few roms and test yourself, see which one you like the most.
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Why is it called American Android? It's for USA only or something?
You should try either TyphoonCM7 or NexusHD2, best roms imo.
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Why is it called American Android? It's for USA only or something?
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It's technically AmeriCanAndroid.
It was a play off of me and Copenhagen. Myself, from the United States of AMERICA. Him, from Canada. And Android, our OS. Now the crazy way we spell it should make more sense.
And we have users world-wide.
These threads really need to be titled... "What are the preferred ROMs people currently run"
I've moved recently to the N4 and i forsee my stock stint ending soon. My first swap will be the kernel and im trying to figure out what the features of franco trinity and faux are and what sets them apart from each other. Both trinity and franco have rather simple OPs and other than reading a few 100 changelogs i cant seem to find a way to look at them.
Cheers
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Both trinity and franco have rather simple OPs and other than reading a few 100 changelogs i cant seem to find a way to look at them.
Cheers
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thats because both kernels dont believe in embellishing their ops with a bunch of magic buzzwords. they do have their own optimizations, but they dont believe in listing a bunch of "features" that really mean nothing to most people. you can always feel free to read their source, their commits. everything is listed there. but really what you have to do is try the kernels themselves, thats whats important, the user experience. only by trying them(or any kernel) will you find the kernel thats best for you, that your phone likes the best. all our phones vary, so every phone will react differently to different devices.
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thats because both kernels dont believe in embellishing their ops with a bunch of magic buzzwords. they do have their own optimizations, but they dont believe in listing a bunch of "features" that really mean nothing to most people. you can always feel free to read their source, their commits. everything is listed there. but really what you have to do is try the kernels themselves, thats whats important, the user experience. only by trying them(or any kernel) will you find the kernel thats best for you, that your phone likes the best. all our phones vary, so every phone will react differently to different devices.
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Yeah i get what youre saying. Ive tried reading githubs before its rather hard for me to decipher. Which is better obviously varies on your phone and usage but im just trying to look at features that set them apart from each other, unless of course they are basically doing the same things via different mothods achieving different results.
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Yeah i get what youre saying. Ive tried reading githubs before its rather hard for me to decipher. Which is better obviously varies on your phone and usage but im just trying to look at features that set them apart from each other, unless of course they are basically doing the same things via different mothods achieving different results.
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the kernels in the original development forum are all built differently, their own ways, their own optimizations. some are feature kernels, some are built to run great. but really its everything in between, they just slant one way or the other. trying them all, youll see a difference. even if some kernels sound similar, youll see theyll run differently. one thing for sure, there are no bad kernels here, they are all good. the reason i say original development is, its one thing to take whats there and add "features" to it, its another thing to make the kernel better
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the kernels in the original development forum are all built differently, their own ways, their own optimizations. some are feature kernels, some are built to run great. but really its everything in between, they just slant one way or the other. trying them all, youll see a difference. even if some kernels sound similar, youll see theyll run differently. one thing for sure, there are no bad kernels here, they are all good. the reason i say original development is, its one thing to take whats there and add "features" to it, its another thing to make the kernel better
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Thanks . But know this. If i become a crackflasher again like with my Moto Defy. Im going to blame you :fingers-crossed:
Thanks :silly:
drawkcaB said:
Thanks . But know this. If i become a crackflasher again like with my Moto Defy. Im going to blame you :fingers-crossed:
Thanks :silly:
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Hello, so far nexus 6p users have had a good year as we have been updated with many new roms including different features and stability. I would like to know how people are finding their current rom and why? I have heard many good things with roms such as dirty unicorn and as a kernel elemental x as well as franco kernel. So what's your preference? Just curious. Also, I would like to know what kinda tweaks and features that are useful so people are aware of this before they flash, feel free explaining your opinions, thanks.
Pure rom + franco kernel + greenify.
The rom includes super su which gives greenify permission to kill apps.
This all adds up to getting about 1.5 days with 6hrs SOT out of the phone with moderate use. But if you can easily make it through a day you probably end up putting your phone on charger anyway.
I do it because I enjoy tinkering with the phone & this combo is put together by individuals passionate about optimising the performance/hardware of the device.
Edit:corrected some figures & added images
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Pure rom + franco kernel + greenify.
The rom includes super su which gives greenify permission to kill apps.
This all adds up to getting about 2 days SOT out of the phone with moderate use. But if you can easily make it through a day you probably end up putting your phone on charger.
I do it because I enjoy tinkering with the phone & this combo is put together by individuals passionate about optimising the performance/hardware of the device.
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I have also used pure nexus but it doesnt have the features that other roms have its basically stock with some features.
Personal preference eh. I'm on stock+elementalx+xposed. An absolute dream. Heres a quick glance at my battery after a day at work for me
That's great battery life there, what is xposed?
Im sure theres many more roms and kernels out there.
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Im sure theres many more roms and kernels out there.
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There are. And there are a ton of other existing threads asking this exact question. There's even a huge "best ROM" thread in the general section. Maybe do some reading.
Heisenberg said:
There are. And there are a ton of other existing threads asking this exact question. There's even a huge "best ROM" thread in the general section. Maybe do some reading.
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I can't seem to find that section 'best rom' do you have the direct link maybe?
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Personal preference eh. I'm on stock+elementalx+xposed. An absolute dream. Heres a quick glance at my battery after a day at work for me
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Same. 6-7 hour sot without using any greenify or any battery saving app. NOTE: im able to get this plus much smoother experience with ghostpepper. I know their other kernel profile which provide better battery life but after trying them all the best one for SMOOTHNESS and battery is ghostpepper. I can right away notice in scrolling like in apps like fb or youtube app. When u use darkspice or other which provide better battery life i get lags on those app and phone feels alot warmer. When i use ghostpepper my phone only get slighly warm when charging but cool to the touch all the time plus buttersmoothe scrolling with my 6 hour sot. Im in heaven with this phone. Sold my galaxy s7 edge by the way, my nexus 6p still the best all around phone
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I can't seem to find that section 'best rom' do you have the direct link maybe?
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It's in the general section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general
If you can't find it use the search feature.
Pure Nexus + franco.Kernel with Heimdall settings.
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Pure Nexus + franco.Kernel with Heimdall settings.
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I have had pure nexus before not really customizable like other roms and what is heimdall settings, never heard of it.
cocelli said:
I have had pure nexus before not really customizable like other roms and what is heimdall settings, never heard of it.
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You can customise Pure Nexus quite a bit, but alas it is trying to maintain as close to AOSP as possible.
Heimdall is governor settings for the interactive governor. Can read about them here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guide-advanced-interactive-governor-t3290605
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You can customise Pure Nexus quite a bit, but alas it is trying to maintain as close to AOSP as possible.
Heimdall is governor settings for the interactive governor. Can read about them here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guide-advanced-interactive-governor-t3290605
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Well I use franco kernel which does all of them governor settings for you automatically.
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Well I use franco kernel which does all of them governor settings for you automatically.
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It has stock settings in franco.Kernel, yes. However there is other tweaks that can be done too.
cocelli said:
I have had pure nexus before not really customizable like other roms and what is heimdall settings, never heard of it.
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Pure nexus not customizable? What are you trying to do, turn your phone into a transformer? I used to stay away from it because it had TOO MANY options...
If you don't know what xposed is, it's pretty clear you have done no searching or reading for yourself.
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Pure nexus not customizable? What are you trying to do, turn your phone into a transformer? I used to stay away from it because it had TOO MANY options...
If you don't know what xposed is, it's pretty clear you have done no searching or reading for yourself.
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If I diden't know what exposed was you could come up with a better reply, right? And that's why this thread is here my friend.
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If I diden't know what exposed was you could come up with a better reply, right? And that's why this thread is here my friend.
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1. I'm not your friend.
2. No one is here to spoon feed you.
3. No one can tell you what the best ROM for you is. Only you can decide that.
PuffinNugz said:
1. I'm not your friend.
2. No one is here to spoon feed you.
3. No one can tell you what the best ROM for you is. Only you can decide that.
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1. If you're going to talk like an idiot and mess my thread it's not gonna happen.
2. I don't have to download and see in trial and error whether which rom works better for me as everyone has there own opinions on each rom I count on what people think on each rom unlike you. If developers are making these roms we have the right to speak and see what works better so everyone can be aware.
3. You came here like an idiot you can now leave as an idiot my friend ).
cocelli said:
1. If you're going to talk like an idiot and mess my thread it's not gonna happen.
2. I don't have to download and see in trial and error whether which rom works better for me as everyone has there own opinions on each rom I count on what people think on each rom unlike you. If developers are making these roms we have the right to speak and see what works better so everyone can be aware.
3. You came here like an idiot you can now leave as an idiot my friend ).
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lol. It actually is your responsibility to figure out what the best combination is on YOUR device. You can clearly see that Pure Nexus is the most popular rom, yet you don't like it. Roms and kernels will behave differently from device to device. Just because one combination is best for one person, it doesn't mean it will be the best for you. Again, you need to figure it out by trial and error. That's what the overwhelming percentage of people do on this forum. The rest, like yourself, try to be spoonfed without putting in the work.