i just got my tmobile g2 and after putting my email in and unlocking it for my att sim, i feel like is a little bit choppy. the scrolling in the web browser (i dint even install flash) and the responsiveness of the buttons, it doesn't feel as snappy as the the iphone 4. i remember when i was using the n1 with 2.2 a while back is a bit smoother. is it because i been using the iphone for too long? or is it because its preloaded with too much app? i don't think thats the case since the android rom it self is stock. will the smoothness of the ui improves when you put in a different rom when permit root is possible in the future?
one more thing, is it possible to add touch focus to the camera and video recording?
I don't know what you did but the G2 is incrediblly snappy for me. No lags at all. I'm even playing some heavy duty games, like Asphalt (racing game) and I do not notice any lags at all.
thats what i was expecting too, i dint do anything to my g2 is out of the back from the store
flash comes pre-installed.
Have you tried rebooting?
What are your linpack scores?
I too find G2 a bit choppy (after playing with my friend's iPhone4) but I think that's just the way Android is. It can do so much more but we have to sacrifice some smoothness in return. Seems to lag a bit more on home screens. Browser, maps, other apps are just fine.
Also, with Android 2.2, you have to use a phone for a while for it to achieve it's full potential. Something about JIT getting better over the time.
I had the same thing happen to me after i put my work email through microsoft exchange active sync. i ended up putting the check email frequency to never cause i always check it every morning and night to reply and that seemed to clear up that issue. it might be a bug with microsoft exchange active sync or the email app itself. hope that helps.
Honestly after the G1 I didn't believe android could run without lag, but my G2 never lags at all. Well maybe twice I've noticed a tiny second of lag coming back to the home screen but that's it. That being said, one of my friends got a g2 too and his is a little laggy here and there... gotta be particular apps/widgets causing issues in my opinion... with him in particular I think its the anyRSS widget, but I could be wrong of course. I love this phone
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obelisk282 said:
i just got my tmobile g2 and after putting my email in and unlocking it for my att sim, i feel like is a little bit choppy. the scrolling in the web browser (i dint even install flash) and the responsiveness of the buttons, it doesn't feel as snappy as the the iphone 4. i remember when i was using the n1 with 2.2 a while back is a bit smoother. is it because i been using the iphone for too long? or is it because its preloaded with too much app? i don't think thats the case since the android rom it self is stock. will the smoothness of the ui improves when you put in a different rom when permit root is possible in the future?
one more thing, is it possible to add touch focus to the camera and video recording?
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Laggy? No, not at all. Not even a little bit. Nope. Whoosh, eat my dust iPhone. Uh, you don't have to install flash, it is preloaded...you could turn it off. Must be something wrong with your trying to run on ATT.
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My g1 and my g2 BOTH lag blatantly when connected to cheap third party power cords fyi. They work fine on decent power cords, but glitch on the made-in-china, 3 chargers for 99 cents adapter cords.
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The g2 certainly lags in the browser. On more complex webpages the scrolling is not very smooth at all. Load up a flash heavy site and its really bad. I find It really hard to control flash players and stuff. You have to zoom way in to get any buttons to register like on myspace music.
Set flash to "on demand."
Overall I have no lag. when i first got mine (oct 6) there was a delay when i tried to scroll the app drawer. The issues has a since disappear. This thing is snappy and blazing fast.
I think he might be referring to the "smoothness". Unfortunately all android phones have a tendency to stutter when scrolling.
There is no 2D graphics acceleration in the UI, as google did not want to have issues with the older 528mhz phones. Hopefully this will be resolved in 3.0.
The newer faster phones (Like the G2) can hide this with their raw CPU performance, but occasionally if its multitasking or doing something else it will stutter/lag. For now, Windows Phone 7, and iPhone's will always be "smoother". Until we get some decent UI acceleration .
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The g2 certainly lags in the browser. On more complex webpages the scrolling is not very smooth at all. Load up a flash heavy site and its really bad. I find It really hard to control flash players and stuff. You have to zoom way in to get any buttons to register like on myspace music.
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do you have adobe flash 10.1 installed? Keep it on your phone internal memory not sdcard. If you are running stock browser or Xscope or skyfire (or even fennec) just clear the caches regularly. Otherwise there is no reason why the phone should be lagging. Also in settings, set flash player to "on demand" not "always"
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do you have adobe flash 10.1 installed? Keep it on your phone internal memory not sdcard. If you are running stock browser or Xscope or skyfire (or even fennec) just clear the caches regularly. Otherwise there is no reason why the phone should be lagging. Also in settings, set flash player to "on demand" not "always"
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I'm actually talking with flash off though and comparing the g2 side by side a captivate. So android's ui is not hardware accelerated but the galaxy s phones are able to totally mask that. Its not a big difference but a shame that the g2 processor doesn't keep up with the hummingbird. Now someone could explain to me that its because we are running 2.2 but I thought it was actually supposed to be faster than 2.1.
my phone is fast. there is a difference between lag and choppiness. lag is when there is a delay between when you tell the phone to do something and when it does it. choppiness is a lack of smoothness in scrolling. some apps are more choppy than than others. like the stock music app is way too choppy when scrolling lists. the browser is choppy. the contacts list is pretty smooth. but in terms of lag, I don't have any lag.
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my phone is fast. there is a difference between lag and choppiness. lag is when there is a delay between when you tell the phone to do something and when it does it. choppiness is a lack of smoothness in scrolling. some apps are more choppy than than others. like the stock music app is way too choppy when scrolling lists. the browser is choppy. the contacts list is pretty smooth. but in terms of lag, I don't have any lag.
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Yeah that makes sense. My captivate is not choppy in the browser at all and my g2 is slightly choppy. It seriously makes me sad.
obelisk282 said:
i just got my tmobile g2 and after putting my email in and unlocking it for my att sim, i feel like is a little bit choppy. the scrolling in the web browser (i dint even install flash) and the responsiveness of the buttons, it doesn't feel as snappy as the the iphone 4. i remember when i was using the n1 with 2.2 a while back is a bit smoother. is it because i been using the iphone for too long? or is it because its preloaded with too much app? i don't think thats the case since the android rom it self is stock. will the smoothness of the ui improves when you put in a different rom when permit root is possible in the future?
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I think most of the Web browser choppiness is due to the fact your use At&t network for browsing on the G2 which will only get you slow speeds since it can't use At&t's 3G. This would be expected. Try wifi and see if you still have the choppiness. I don't know about your button issue though.
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Has anyone who has tried the Desire browser noticed that the loading speeds are much much much quicker than the stock Android?
I used KingK's Desire2Nexus for 1 day. Now I'm on CM 5.0.4 default. Loading up XDA on CM/default browser seems like there's a hang around the middle of the loading, and also 3/4 of the way there. On KingK, the loading speed was blazing going page to page. There was absolutely no hang at all.
Anyone else notice this?
Is it possible to use this browser without rooting?
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Is it possible to use this browser without rooting?
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Nope...it's tied into the HTC framework. For what it's worth, the stock browser has improved quite a bit from Android 1.5 even... the Hero browser was way nicer at that time. The difference now is negligible to be honest.
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Has anyone who has tried the Desire browser noticed that the loading speeds are much much much quicker than the stock Android?
I used KingK's Desire2Nexus for 1 day. Now I'm on CM 5.0.4 default. Loading up XDA on CM/default browser seems like there's a hang around the middle of the loading, and also 3/4 of the way there. On KingK, the loading speed was blazing going page to page. There was absolutely no hang at all.
Anyone else notice this?
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I had the exact opposite experience, lol.
I too noticed a big boost in speed with the Desire browsr.
Maybe some of you rooted peeps can post a comparison on Youtube. Just make sure to clear the cache before recording, lol... Don't need another Engadget-type video.
To me it seems faster, also has more features like the long press on any word and it will give u options for copy, translate, Wikipedia, and dictionary.
Can't say I have felt a noticeable difference in speed, though I enjoy the extra features of the HTC browser. Worth noting, though, that it doesn't let you open as many windows as the stock one.
No No No No Noooo LOL
The Desire browser sucks in my testing
Multi touch pinch and zoom is a big let down, it jumps around the screen and is just terrible
Also most pages i normally visit on a day to day basis just stop loading at the http part of the bar :|
Also in my experience is closed itself all the time, just like ended :|
But hey thats just in my experience lol
It doesn't "jump around the screen" as such. The text just gets readjusted to fit into your screen properly the way it does on the stock browser when you double-tap.
I've noticed that I'm less accurate in choosing links on the Desire browser. But it's an alpha, so not that surprising.
My biggest issue with the N1 in general is touchscreen accuracy; I really hope it's gradually fixed in software.
ive noticed it too! Actually ive noticed almost everything to be faster on the desire rom..(im using kings)..and the flash player is awsome..it works for everything but hulu for me..and the pinch zoom works perfect for me too..i remember their use to be a stutter compared to the iphone, but then i went to the apple store yesterday and compared my nexus running on desire rom with the 3gs and the nexus seemed much more fluid
I'm new to android phones. In fact, other than reading about them, my only experience with them is playing with the evo 4g for about 10 minutes. I was surprised at the significant stuttering while trying to scroll through lists. It made navigating the sprint tv application very very frustrating. Scrolling through the browser settings was also very annoying because of the stutter. Is this normal for android phones? Is it normal for the evo? Is there some way to fix it?
Right now I have an iphone 3g. I'm not happy with having to jailbreak my iphone just to get some basic functionality that I need. I'm afraid that with the iphone 4 won't even be able to turn on a jail broken phone without plugging it into a computer, so I really am looking for an android device, but this scrolling stutter might be a deal breaker, if it is normal.
Demo models are always torn up and not typical.
I really don't have any lag but I'm also rooted, removed the bloat and have a great task manager installed.
the nexus never stuttered. not a single step. the evo tends to. i think it has something to do with the bloatware that htc and sprint have filled it up with.
could be the 30 fps bug. the device is locked at displaying 30 frames per second so things could be choppy. that's the second thing i noticed about the phone. first was how fuzzy everything looked - i upgraded from a droid so that could be the reason.
I don't think its the 30fps bug. 30 fps would be perfectly acceptable. This is a stutter, not just slow frame rate.
If you're coming from an iPhone I can see how the scrolling would bother you. The iPhone is consistently 60fps in the UI at almost all times, does not suffer the choppiness of the Android UI when scrolling lists or applications. Restoring the 60fps target + Froyo should get the Android UI experience up to acceptable levels in my opinion.
It's the live wallpapers that make my app list stutter. I turned it off and it's smooth now.
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could be the 30 fps bug. the device is locked at displaying 30 frames per second so things could be choppy. that's the second thing i noticed about the phone. first was how fuzzy everything looked - i upgraded from a droid so that could be the reason.
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OMGG stop blaming a 30fps cap for the phone being laggy AT ALL. Its like every single forum if someone brings something up about the phone freezing, lagging, glitching, or not working. Some random person says "its probably because the 30fps cap". Thats not going to stop things from scrolling all in one motion.
But like others have said here, its most likely just because its a demo phone and there might of been a lot of things running. Since most people dont know how to operate android devices they dont close the program and just open everything and anything. Also htc/sprint put a lot on to the phone and bog it down. The phone will be more then operational without rooting, but if you do root, you can give the phone a big increase in speed.
The 'performance improving' ROMs seem to have a great placebo effect.
The phone stutters regardless of what rom you use. The EVO 4G is a laggy phone. It is very unimpressive.
Having sprint bloatware taking up space in your phone's flash memory does not affect performance. It is not taking up ram unless it's running, and even if it is, it will get reclaimed automatically by the operating system as needed.
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The phone stutters regardless of what rom you use. The EVO 4G is a laggy phone. It is very unimpressive.
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I seem to disagree with u there. My EVO hasnt choked once. Yeah, its a little jittery with LWP running, but without the LWP, my EVO is as smooth as can be. Not one complaint.
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I seem to disagree with u there. My EVO hasnt choked once. Yeah, its a little jittery with LWP running, but without the LWP, my EVO is as smooth as can be. Not one complaint.
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I'm coming from an iphone 3g which had no UI lag. Opening and closing apps took longer though. Scrolling, switching homescreens, and especially scrolling the apps list seems extremely laggy on the Evo..
Try launcher pro if you refuse to root and use the custom roms.
I have virtually zero lag and free memory is always over 200 mb
I'll agree, I just came from an iPhone 3gs and one of the first things I noticed was that the Evo wasn't as smooth. I really like the OS but the scrolling needs to be fixed.
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Hell... I came from an iphone 2G and it scrolls smoother than my evo.
I really think it's the refresh rate.
I had a Nexus One and never noticed the stutter, though some of my iPhone-toting friends did. But the second I updated to Froyo and everything was much faster and more responsive, I could notice how much slower scrolling and switching screens on 2.1 devices was. It's just a matter of what you're used to.
I get some stuttering when scrolling. My Hero (which I still have) doesn't do this. Strange thing is that sometimes I do not see this stuttering and it's smooth as butter. My thought is that something in the background is running and eating up CPU time.
Live wallpapers seem to make a huge difference in how smooth and regular the touch screen refreshes (like scrolling). I don't have big problems with preinstalled live wallpapers by Android and HTC, but when using most downloaded live wallpapers, the difference is noticable - for example, Galactic Core and RedEye Scanner live wallpapers make scrolling noticeably choppier.
This doesn't seem to happen as much with Nexus One I have access to. I think it might the combination of the 30fps cap and the Sense UI.
Well my plan now is to wait until the iPhone 4 is jailbroken. If the evo's stutter is fixed to the point that it is like other android phones, I'll buy the evo. Of not, I'll get the iPhone unless there's a new option on sprint or AT&T.
I should say that I don't buy that the stutter is due to the 30fps cap. I know what 30fps looks like. The scroll stutter/lag hurts useability. A smooth 30fps wouldn't.
It doesn't stutter unless your running certain live wallpapers. If you use a regular wallpaper there is no stuttering. This is not a problem with EVO as I had same problem on my Nexus but after the update to froyo everything was silky smooth even with live wallpapers. So my suggestion is if it bothers you just use a regular wallpaper until froyo drops on the EVO.
I just came from an IP4 if that matters,
1.first thing, the speaker quality is not all that when Im watching a youtube vid or just a video I can barely hear it, music sounds good though...weird.
2.Phone call quality is very under par for me, sometimes I can barely hear the person on the other line, its very low, not sure if its just me.
3.I could have swore my first N1 was faster then this one I have know and I though 2.2 was supposed to be really quick? It just seems choppy, everything from the home screens to web browsing to the app store, just seems choppy...
Thats about it, I can live with it but I dont remember the N1 being like this...
Maybe you should Root and install a good ROM and install Launcher Pro or ADW launcher!
some people have that choppy scrolling, not sure why. try installing launcher pro, its free, its smooooth as can be. but that's for your homescreens. the browser is typically very smooth for me, but certain web pages, like web 2.0 html, are a little choppy for some reason (such as the new skin on this forum. switch back to old and look at the difference!!).
when you are watching a video, cup your hand so the sound bounces off your hand and toward you rather than just blaring out the back side of the phone... obviously you will have trouble hearing it then...
Laucher pro fixes almost EVERYTHING
solidkevin said:
I just came from an IP4 if that matters,
1.first thing, the speaker quality is not all that when Im watching a youtube vid or just a video I can barely hear it, music sounds good though...weird.
2.Phone call quality is very under par for me, sometimes I can barely hear the person on the other line, its very low, not sure if its just me.
3.I could have swore my first N1 was faster then this one I have know and I though 2.2 was supposed to be really quick? It just seems choppy, everything from the home screens to web browsing to the app store, just seems choppy...
Thats about it, I can live with it but I dont remember the N1 being like this...
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Get Cyan 6.0, remove ADW launcher, install Launcher Pro and enjoooooooy....
also try to wipe your cache in recovery... once my n1 gets a lil choppy or sluggish i go into my recovery and wipe my cache and it speeds and smooths out again.. i use it tremendously so i kinda have to do it often
johnnie93 said:
Maybe you should Root and install a good ROM and install Launcher Pro or ADW launcher!
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You don't need root to install those.
DarkDvr said:
Get Cyan 6.0, remove ADW launcher, install Launcher Pro and enjoooooooy....
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How do you remove ADW launcher?
solidkevin said:
I just came from an IP4 if that matters,
1.first thing, the speaker quality is not all that when Im watching a youtube vid or just a video I can barely hear it, music sounds good though...weird.
2.Phone call quality is very under par for me, sometimes I can barely hear the person on the other line, its very low, not sure if its just me.
3.I could have swore my first N1 was faster then this one I have know and I though 2.2 was supposed to be really quick? It just seems choppy, everything from the home screens to web browsing to the app store, just seems choppy...
Thats about it, I can live with it but I dont remember the N1 being like this...
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1. Embedded sound in a video has its own volume, which might be low. Also, try watching high quality videos - the speaker is better at high frequencies, and in low quality they're the ones that get cut.
2. Something with your phone, maybe? Try installing a ROM with kernel that includes audio hack. I can't keep my call volume on 100%, it bursts my ears even in very noisy environment.
3. Wipe everything, install Launcher Pro, and try again.
If you still don't like it after that - then sell it.
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also try to wipe your cache in recovery... once my n1 gets a lil choppy or sluggish i go into my recovery and wipe my cache and it speeds and smooths out again.. i use it tremendously so i kinda have to do it often
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Right but his phone is brand new. I've experienced his issue first hand. I first flashed froyo, and the scrolling home screens was choppy as hell, not smooth at all. Launcher pro fixed it. But Google did something with froyo cause it doesn't always seen as smooth as it used to be.
However right now my phone is running superb, smooth scrolling every where, 55 fps easily
I've spent a good amount of time with the iPhone 4. I definitely prefer my Nexus, but here's the painful truth: The iPhone is smoother when it comes to scrolling. Sorry guys, it's just how it is.
You can make the Nexus smoother by using launcher pro or ADW launcher (ADW is smoother IMO), and load a fast rom like Cyanogen 6. It still will be a little choppier than the iPhone, though.
Android and iOS have a very different look & feel. Android does many things better, and is more capable, but iOS still has the advantage in terms of performance consistency & polish.
As a iPhone to Android switcher, it's just something you have to accept. In time, you'll get used to Android's look & feel, and then in all liklihood, you'll start to prefer it like I have.
jollins said:
I've spent a good amount of time with the iPhone 4. I definitely prefer my Nexus, but here's the painful truth: The iPhone is smoother when it comes to scrolling. Sorry guys, it's just how it is.
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Yup. I remember even seeing an Android OS developer say it is because iOS uses the GPU to handle those effects but Android uses software to rendering scrolling and other animations. When people got pissed off about that (we have GPUs, so why aren't they being used) he said it would be really hard to do on Android because they need to support a wide variety of devices.
I'm not sure why they couldn't just have an optimized code path for devices with the proper hardware. Hopefully it does actually get fixed at some point, but the fact that it hasn't been fixed yet makes me a bit doubtful.
I use LauncherPro like most other people here, but that's still not as flawlessly smooth as iOS dashboard scrolling, and it also doesn't fix scrolling in other areas such as ListViews.
solidkevin said:
I just came from an IP4 if that matters,
1.first thing, the speaker quality is not all that when Im watching a youtube vid or just a video I can barely hear it, music sounds good though...weird.
2.Phone call quality is very under par for me, sometimes I can barely hear the person on the other line, its very low, not sure if its just me.
3.I could have swore my first N1 was faster then this one I have know and I though 2.2 was supposed to be really quick? It just seems choppy, everything from the home screens to web browsing to the app store, just seems choppy...
Thats about it, I can live with it but I dont remember the N1 being like this...
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my phone quality is fantastic. That is what I noticed first was the clear strong phone. True the speaker could be better but it's funny sometimes different videos or songs will be very loud as to how it was downloaded to begin with. I listen to music thru my ear phones and find it top quality sound. To Me the Nexus one is still the best android device made.
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Yup. I remember even seeing an Android OS developer say it is because iOS uses the GPU to handle those effects but Android uses software to rendering scrolling and other animations. When people got pissed off about that (we have GPUs, so why aren't they being used) he said it would be really hard to do on Android because they need to support a wide variety of devices.
I'm not sure why they couldn't just have an optimized code path for devices with the proper hardware. Hopefully it does actually get fixed at some point, but the fact that it hasn't been fixed yet makes me a bit doubtful.
I use LauncherPro like most other people here, but that's still not as flawlessly smooth as iOS dashboard scrolling, and it also doesn't fix scrolling in other areas such as ListViews.
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I agree there are certain parts of the UI that are not as smooth. But when I really sit down to compare its not as different as one might think.
So launcher pro easily seems to be smooth when using regular wallpaper, no live wallpaper, its gotta be hitting 50 fps.
Some lists have a choppy feel, but most actually do not. The settings list for example is smooth. But a list like the market is not, even after you allow the items to cache the data as it downloads. My point is I guess that really in the parts of the UI that ARE smooth, I feel its just as smooth as my ipod touch. It easily hits 50 fps in those parts of the UI and the home screens via launcher pro.
Google's official statement on their developer site is the android OS target is 60 fps. And they give examples showing that they are hitting 45 fps in first gen devices like the g1, and 55 fps in second gen devices like the nexus.
The web browser is another one. Most pages I visit scroll very smooth, easily hitting 45 fps. But certain pages with web 2.0 skins, like this forum's new theme, are choppy.
If you have a working build environment you should be able to see the fps in different UI parts of the OS. The adreno gpu isn't the best, but it definitely should be able to handle basic UI elements like what we see throughout android, and certain parts ARE optimized for smooth scrolling. The parts that aren't I guess could be a limitation of the gpu. But when I see certain web pages and lists that ARE smooth, I have to wonder if and why the choppy parts are just not optimized.
But the end of the day, when I see launcher pro sooth as butter hitting 50 fps, it makes me happy with this phone knowing it can do smooth scrolling, and maybe the not as smooth parts just weren't given as much attention in coding.
I put my third gen ipod touch next to my nexus, and most of the time they really do match each other. So I'm happy
I don't get it. I have compared my Vibrant to my Nexus one and 95% of the time the Vibrant is just as fast. Two exceptions, the market and speedtest.net app. Other than that, it flies! I will say before I did a hard reset the phone was in fact slow, it was a day and night difference after the reset. I get no lag, fast swipe through screens with TW launcher and apps open fast!
I have no lag that I can notice, but then again I don't bog my phones down with a ton of apps and games I will never use.
No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.
How speedy a device feels is very subjective and varies under different conditions.
I do have a Nexus One too ( in fact two) and in some respects it feels more responsive (mostly the menu, home, back and search button). Applications open faster as well.
Now, the comparison is not fair, ad the N1 is running Froyo and doesn't have the bloatware services installed by TMo (visual voicemail, my account, et al)
Browser and rendering speeds are much faster in the vibrant. Noticeably.
Download speed are much faster in the vibrant as well. Using Speedtest.net the vibrant scores 6 mbs vs 2 on the N1, same place, same time, same servers.
I think the biggest issue with the vibrant (other than the compass and the gps) is filesystem access, probablu due to using a large flash-based memory for storing apps.
I expect that when (if) the Froyo update arrives, the phone will fly.
In the meantime, and depending which apps people have installed and how they use the phone, some will continue to have better experiences with the N1, others with the vibrant.
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I don't have an N1 to compare to, but, there was definitely a lag. Tolerable most of the time, but it would be completely frozen during a single install of an app from market. And don't get me started on a phone reboot. I wish I had timed it to be exact, but it must have been 5 entire minutes from reboot to when I could open and actually use the camera again to record something. Opera loads probably twice (maybe 2.5 times) as fast. Engadget would literally take 5 seconds to come up and at *least* 5 seconds *per page* to load, if not more. I would hit the arrow and have to wait..and wait..and wait. Now, I can hit the arrow repeatedly and it scrolls through news (both new and old)
Maybe not all phones lagged, but mine certainly did. Hope froyo helps some so I'm not forced to run a hack to get around poor rfs performance (or whatever it is).
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No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.
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Would really like to know when people without gps or speed problems got their phones. I bought mine the 19th of July from costco.
Also, the, "take off all your apps and games you don't use regularly. Don't use any widgets on your screens. Don't use all 7 screens for apps or widgets" comments are counterproductive. The phone was DESIGNED for this kind of use and if it doesn't perform as designed. Well, that's a problem.
One more thing - people like me who post about perceived problems are not HATERS. I love the phone and its potential with future upgrades to the software and firmware. That's why I come to this forum, to gets thoughts from the android community. Besides, if everyone who loved the phone and had zero problems with it posted all the time there would be no room for those of us seeking advice.
After youtube vid by AKASKRILLER IM ROOTED DID LAGFIX IN 10MINS W/NO PC NOW IM BENCHIN 2100+........HELLLA FASSST
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I see what you did there...
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LAG FIX IN 10MINS........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dSg3qsD7QQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I wanted to say that I did the lag fix via the update.zip method and everything flies now including the Geniewidget which would rarely load articles. Samsung needs to or has fixed this (not sure, we don't know until we get an official update) but.. I can use the TWLauncher now.
Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
kizer said:
Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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There is some lag that was very noticeable which happened every time you tried to use the market place and some random apps(the market was faster on my mt3g before the lag fix), after the lag fix the loading screen is gone if not instant.
Just did this update and I went from 983 to 2187! Awesome difference!
kizer said:
Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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Same story for me. I've never seen this lag that everyone is talking about (except for the one person that mentioned some lag when installing apps - EVERY Android phone lags for a few seconds while an app is installing). I run the standard TW home and rooted and uninstalled a few of the bloatware apps I'd never use. Don't really see any reason to do the "lag fix".
I'm wondering if its possible to have a smooth browser experience on the tab 10.1, so far I've tried;
latest ICS preview
renice
disable opengl rendering (about:debug)
normal rendering (about:debug)
light touch - no idea what this does (about:debug)
force gpu rendering (developer options)
overclock cpu (1.4ghz)
force plugins to on-demand
touchscreen tune tweaks
clear app data/cache
other browsers (dolphin, firefox, opera)
On mainly text sites like forums.whirlpool.net.au scrolling is smooth but sites with moderate/standard use of images like theverge.com (full-site) scrolling is only average. I've noticed a pause in scrolling occurs when a new image comes into view and thats scrolling at a speed that you would if you were reading/skimming content on the site.
I'm comparing to the iPad 1, as its all I've got to compare to, where the above 2 sites scroll super smooth. Even the mainly text site is loads smoother on the iPad 1.
Is this as goods as the browsing experience gets on android?
I just flashed Romans ics rom and everything is smooth as butta... even on the stock browser.
zacbarton said:
I'm wondering if its possible to have a smooth browser experience on the tab 10.1, so far I've tried;
latest ICS preview
renice
disable opengl rendering (about:debug)
normal rendering (about:debug)
light touch - no idea what this does (about:debug)
force gpu rendering (developer options)
overclock cpu (1.4ghz)
force plugins to on-demand
touchscreen tune tweaks
clear app data/cache
other browsers (dolphin, firefox, opera)
On mainly text sites like forums.whirlpool.net.au scrolling is smooth but sites with moderate/standard use of images like theverge.com (full-site) scrolling is only average. I've noticed a pause in scrolling occurs when a new image comes into view and thats scrolling at a speed that you would if you were reading/skimming content on the site.
I'm comparing to the iPad 1, as its all I've got to compare to, where the above 2 sites scroll super smooth. Even the mainly text site is loads smoother on the iPad 1.
Is this as goods as the browsing experience gets on android?
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Pretty much
Everything on Android is laggier then it would be on iOS, the actual release of ICS from Samsung may help with this, who knows though, overall though the ICS ports are pretty damn good when it comes to browser scrolling, its the best Ive seen on any Android device I have, IMO tegra 2 is a piece of turd, which is part of the problem
What I notice on some sites is if the images are large or large images sized down via HTML to thumbnails then I'm more likely to see jittering going on when scrolling on the site. Save both the home screen for Verge and Engadget and you'll notice a difference in the amount of image files larger than 50k each on Verge.
I don't think it's fair for folks to say that things are great for them when it comes to subjective things like responsiveness and smoothness. I'm on 3.2 and the Verge site stutters when scrolling and an image pops in. For the most part performance is acceptable for me but that's a subjective thing, I can perceive the stutter but it's not bad enough for me to complain about and I'd never even consider buying an iPad to remedy that.
For me memory management is worse than scrolling performance. Jumping in and out of memory intensive applications causes issues eventually as Android tries to dump background process to free up RAM. Hoping ICS helps as people say because that lag switching between or starting apps is more annoying to me.
Opera Mini processes the webpage on Opera servers so it speeds up page load times and I find browsing to be pretty smooth.
Can you elaborate on your definitions of smooth and lag? I compared browsing sites on the Tab and my mbp and unless my macbook pro browser experience is not as great as iOS Im not getting the same substandard performance. Im not seeing deformed images or text. Flash works well.
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muzzy996 said:
What I notice on some sites is if the images are large or large images sized down via HTML to thumbnails then I'm more likely to see jittering going on when scrolling on the site. Save both the home screen for Verge and Engadget and you'll notice a difference in the amount of image files larger than 50k each on Verge.
I don't think it's fair for folks to say that things are great for them when it comes to subjective things like responsiveness and smoothness. I'm on 3.2 and the Verge site stutters when scrolling and an image pops in. For the most part performance is acceptable for me but that's a subjective thing, I can perceive the stutter but it's not bad enough for me to complain about and I'd never even consider buying an iPad to remedy that.
For me memory management is worse than scrolling performance. Jumping in and out of memory intensive applications causes issues eventually as Android tries to dump background process to free up RAM. Hoping ICS helps as people say because that lag switching between or starting apps is more annoying to me.
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I agree on memory mgmt. I have to use the task mgr a lot in order to assure decent performance with hd video playback or even netflix.Even then im rebooting at least every other day. Really not seeing poor browser performance. Im running stock rooted currently. Considering a rom but so far I cant see not running into problems like no camera or other bugs which just adds up to swapping one problem for another.
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I agree on memory mgmt. I have to use the task mgr a lot in order to assure decent performance with hd video playback or even netflix.Even then im rebooting at least every other day. Really not seeing poor browser performance. Im running stock rooted currently. Considering a rom but so far I cant see not running into problems like no camera or other bugs which just adds up to swapping one problem for another.
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Try Overcome. It's close to stock, and I haven't run into any issues in the couple of days I've run it.
Simba501 said:
Try Overcome. It's close to stock, and I haven't run into any issues in the couple of days I've run it.
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Thanks for the input. Ive seen people talking about it. Is it one of those "slim" roms where I have to hunt down the system apps?
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Thanks for the input. Ive seen people talking about it. Is it one of those "slim" roms where I have to hunt down the system apps?
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I think everything is there. I ended up removing a lot of stuff I don't use, so I assume he left most of it intact.
Ipad haven no flash in the browser so for sure it would be faster
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zacbarton said:
I'm wondering if its possible to have a smooth browser experience on the tab 10.1, so far I've tried;
latest ICS preview
renice
disable opengl rendering (about:debug)
normal rendering (about:debug)
light touch - no idea what this does (about:debug)
force gpu rendering (developer options)
overclock cpu (1.4ghz)
force plugins to on-demand
touchscreen tune tweaks
clear app data/cache
other browsers (dolphin, firefox, opera)
On mainly text sites like forums.whirlpool.net.au scrolling is smooth but sites with moderate/standard use of images like theverge.com (full-site) scrolling is only average. I've noticed a pause in scrolling occurs when a new image comes into view and thats scrolling at a speed that you would if you were reading/skimming content on the site.
I'm comparing to the iPad 1, as its all I've got to compare to, where the above 2 sites scroll super smooth. Even the mainly text site is loads smoother on the iPad 1.
Is this as goods as the browsing experience gets on android?
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I use the following combination
Task 13.1 Slim
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340064
Pershoot kernel 2.6.36.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138167
b00sted's Galaxy tab ICS Theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349862
No browser issues to speak of.......
hoss_n2 said:
Ipad haven no flash in the browser so for sure it would be faster
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You can set plugins to "on demand" to speed up page loads and only use it when you want to. I don't know why anyone would not have it "on demand". I get this laggyness the OP describes as well on mine without flash even installed. Nothing compared to my first gen ipad so I dont think it's fair to say that's the only reason.
latest ics kang with ics browser + is pretty smooth for me
the verge.com doesn't seem slow at all
Simba501 said:
I think everything is there. I ended up removing a lot of stuff I don't use, so I assume he left most of it intact.
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I'm going to give it a go tomorrow. I'm tired of the crummy memory mgmt.
Try this ram manager instead of a task killer. Its very similar to the scripts like v6 supercharger that some devs bake into their rom. Is enhances androids own ram management.
Imo it helps from android killing my browser while I'm using it. Makes the tab generally more responsive and better on battery life by helping android do a better job of stopping rogue apps from eating up ramm in the background.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.smartprojects.RAMOptimizationFree
shawnwojcik said:
Try this ram manager instead of a task killer. Its very similar to the scripts like v6 supercharger that some devs bake into their rom. Is enhances androids own ram management.
Imo it helps from android killing my browser while I'm using it. Makes the tab generally more responsive and better on battery life by helping android do a better job of stopping rogue apps from eating up ramm in the background.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.smartprojects.RAMOptimizationFree
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Installed it but it hangs when trying to run it. It just sits there with a blank screen and no menu options although I read theres only balanced with the free version. Rebooted and no change.
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If you want smooth browsing experience(or a smooth OS in general) get an iPad. All Android tablets I've tried were laggy and had repeated browser crashes(I think there's an issue with JavaScript) and no custom rom will solve these issues.
GorillaPimp said:
Installed it but it hangs when trying to run it. It just sits there with a blank screen and no menu options although I read theres only balanced with the free version. Rebooted and no change.
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Usually when i have an issue like that I have to uninstall and reinstall the app. You are correct about having only the balanced option with the free version. For me it does the trick though. Its just enough to have a better experience on all my Android devices.
shawnwojcik said:
Usually when i have an issue like that I have to uninstall and reinstall the app. You are correct about having only the balanced option with the free version. For me it does the trick though. Its just enough to have a better experience on all my Android devices.
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Tried reinstalling and rebooting with waiting after reboot to reinstall and still it won't work on my Tab. I'm not even running a custom ROM. Weird. No data to clear either. There are a few other similar apps out there. I will see if one of them will work.