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Ok I got the X10 a few days ago.. loving it.. now..
How do I extend the life of the battery? I know theres a ton of topics on this but I can't seem to get more than 12hours..
- I use StartupAuditor and pretty much stopped most apps from running at start.
- I use ADW Launcher
- I use JuiceDefender
- Timeout - Screen timeout after 15s, lock after 2mins
- Schedule - Enable APN/Wifi for 1m every 15secs (for Moxie Sync/Mail - Push)
- Screen - Leave APN/Wifi enabled while screen unlocked (So it disables it after it has been locked)
Any help is appreciated.
After a couple of weeks your battery life should get better with out you having to do anything. Just be patient and let it fully discharge before recharging. Also restart your phone after a full charge and after using wifi and gps.
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force close the face recognition will save alot of power, face recognition sucks the cpu hardly!
wingz85 said:
After a couple of weeks your battery life should get better with out you having to do anything. Just be patient and let it fully discharge before recharging. Also restart your phone after a full charge and after using wifi and gps.
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Discharing a battery is bad isnt it?
Well your problem may lay here
"- Schedule - Enable APN/Wifi for 1m every 15secs (for Moxie Sync/Mail - Push)"
Your using Moxier which other X10 users have identified as a huge power user and according to you, your also using APN/Wifi for a minute every 15 seconds..........so it's essentially never turning the APN/Wifi off :-S
Hope this helps!
Also fully discharging your battery every now and then is actually beneficial for your battery.
Quite certain the 1 minute every 15 seconds is a typo
Juicedefender defaults to 1 minute ever 15 minutes.
I removed ATK and Juicedefender, I found they only screwed up things in the phone and after removing them I noticed no change in battery life. (If anything, my battery life increased after removing ATK)
The best things for battery I have found to be.
-- Alternate launcher (I use ADW, I think Helix is better for battery performance but ADW has more options).
-- First 5 charges, discharge battery completely and do this again once every month or so
-- After full charge, power cycle phone (Turn off/on)
-- Use quick settings to turn off GPS, WiFi and Bluetooth when you are not using them
-- Make sure you back out of programs when you're done with them. This will close most applications so they are not running in the background. Certain apps (like a dolphin browser) have exit functions under more options. This is useful as back will just go to the previous page.
Note: Force closing applications which you see open in the background may use more battery as it may just start up again. Constantly killing and opening the program will use processor/battery power. Whereas many programs, when open in the background, are not using active process power and Android OS will pause/stop applications which are not in active use, by default.
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- Timeout - Screen timeout after 15s, lock after 2mins
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Where can i find the timout setting for the lock?
Screen brightness turned down. Wifi instead of 3g. That's what I do. And I think I get around 15 hours. Still kinda bad. But better than nothing.
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From my experience..
I find 3G has better battery life than WiFi, unless you are constantly browsing. When 3G is active, but you're not browsing the web and stuff, I find it doesn't use much battery. WiFi, however, uses up loads of battery when the phone is idle.
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Where can i find the timout setting for the lock?
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I want to know that as well Tried to find in phone settings but couldn't figure it out
Battery barely gets drained by wifi in idle state. you just go into wireless settings and set wifi sleep policy to when screen turns off.. should be fine after!!
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Mano, not sure if this is what ya after! but here goes.. go to settings, sound and display, then screen timeout!!
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As per my last question, discharging is bad isn't it? With these batteries, you have to constantly charge them so they don't loose life
Edit: Also.. if I press home button or back button that doesn't close the app.. most apps don't close like that, so I have to use ATK to kill it.. is it fine to leave apps running in the bg like that?
Edit: So I should uninstall ATK?
I also JUST got an X10 about 2 weeks ago! My battery life was so bad at first, and I ended up trying most of these battery saving apps. But to be honest, I found that they did more damage than good.
I now have everything I don't use turned off. Bluetooth, WiFi (when I'm not home at least) etc. Just skim through settings and turn off anything you don't think you'll use. And I restart my phone every morning and I get 30-50 hours out of it, depending on use. It is definitely getting better with time too.
For ATK, I would uninstall it as generally killing tasks does more harm than good. If you use it intermittently and only when necessary (and not use auto-killer) you could keep it installed.
As for apps running in the background..
-- If you press back, it should close most apps (not all, but well designed apps should)
--The Android OS is designed to pause/stop apps/processes which are not being actively used by the user and will close them eventually if left unused
-- ATK is generally only freeing RAM which is not important. It is not like Windows in the sense that more free RAM = faster speeds. It is a lot more like, more free ram = more wasted ram.
Here is a link to where I found out most of this information.
http:/geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
As for WiFi sleep policy, thanks for pointing this out. It seems that my phone is already set to sleep WiFi when the screen is turned off. I find this weird as I have found significantly reduced battery life when I turn WiFi on, even when my phone is mostly unused/idle.
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Mano, not sure if this is what ya after! but here goes.. go to settings, sound and display, then screen timeout!!
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Thank you so much Mobzter, but i was not after that As Sashi said that he has set "Timeout - Screen timeout after 15s, lock after 2mins", I know about about screen timeout but "Lock after 2 min", How? Thnak You anyway ^^
@mano. Good question. I can only find screen time out as well.
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i have noticed some thing strange ,the phone lasts more with apps open in backgroung than when i close them . and using my phone consumes less battery than leaving it in standby .very strange phone (may be only mine ) any confirmation.
Hey Hoss,
I can confirm that force-closing/killing apps seems to be worse for battery life than leaving them alone. Backing out of apps usually will stop any cpu usage, but leave the app running. Killing/closing them will just result in more cpu power to run it when necessary.
As for standby vs usage - I have the opposite experience. The battery life on my x10 lasts a lot longer when I am working all day and not using my phone very much.
Terul
After I did he market place lag fix I found my battery drained a little more than usual. I downloaded a program called memory task cleaner. This will also allow you to set auto kill on apps you dont want always running n the back ground. simply add as many programs as you dont use or want in the back ground running to the auto kill list. Set the safety level to medium in options in auto kill screen. also set intervals of auto kill to every 2 minutes. auto kill when screen off as well.
There you go. You should notice the phone is back to normal with the battery life as well as if your like me, no need for tee nav or blutooth and things like that you will notice the battery may even last longer.
Let me know your results. Settings so fourth.
By the way there will be plenty to auto kil. the galaxy s runs alot of programs all the time for no reason.
so far so good
I had my phone fully charged and tried this so far so good! Ill report more when I can test more. But it has definitely lasted longer so far. about an hour off the charger using wifi online and all, still full batt!
Lets hope this fixes it or Ill have to go back to stock.
So instead you have a program running that every two minutes kills running programs that will start again anyways, beginning the cycle all over again?
Edit: and the way android works, "running" is poor word choice
What its the difference between this and ATK? I'm pretty sure this will so more harm than good.
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Oh, nice OP. Now you have programs constantly fighting themselves to run/kill each other. So now instead of the Android OS taking care of itself, you have these programs sucking down CPU cycles and battery juice.
Dump the autokiller and use ATK to manually kill things if you don't want them running. I get about 35hr of standby time.
Edit: If you really want to be smarter than the Android OS, uninstall the app/widget that's sucking down your battery.
How long does a full charge last for you on your continuum?
I got a new warranty replacement battery from verizon yesterday, because my battery only lasted 4 hours. This was with turning off applications and having the screen off. I also have the brightness turned all the way down for when I actually use the phone.
Right now, Im running Adrynalyne's kernel and the "3.30.11 Clean Continuum DL17 Rom". I hope this battery lasts.
Mine will usually last all day (around 12 ish hours) with moderate use (meaning checking facebook, browsing the internet lightly and checking email, making calls and texting). I've never had a problem with my battery except when I first go tit and I couldn't put the thing down lol
Tricks to get your battery to last longer:
1. Get "Advanced Task Killer" from the market and kill all unnecessary processes that run. The Task Manager that comes on your phone can detect applications that are multitasking, but it can't detect processes. Processes can randomly start running when you open apps like Facebook, Browser, etc. When you press the "back" button to exit an application, these processes keep running and consume lots of battery life. I saved muchos battery life with this app.
2. Go to Settings>About phone>Battery use and see what's consuming the most of your battery life. Click on the items you see that are consuming battery life and it'll tell you if you can do anything about it.
3. Live Wallpapers consume a considerate amount of battery life, so if you're having battery problems, avoid using them.
4. Remove unneeded widgets.
5. A friend told me using battery conserving apps actually increased his battery consumption. I don't know if it's true, or why that would be but I would try testing to see if using a battery conserving app actually helps, or makes it worse.
6. Turn off WiFi when you're not using it, or it will constantly attempt to search for WiFi, decreasing your battery life.
7. Try using SetCPU, and set a limit to the processing power (is that what it's called?) that your phone can use. Don't set it to the minimum because you don't want a laggy phone, but try lowering it a bit and see if that reduces the amount of battery life used.
If that doesn't work, nothing will. I don't know why you only have 4 hours of battery life, but that should fix anything that makes your phone have less battery life
There's a better apparently than adv task killer it has like 5 apps in one its called android assistance. And its worth looking at trust me
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I have upgraded to GB firmware recently, and the battery consumption now is quite bad. So i use Juice Defender(free), it says the battery improved by 1.4X, but overnight consumption in standby mode could cost up to 40%, is there any ways to solve this?
Thanks
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OnyxGraphite said:
I have upgraded to GB firmware recently, and the battery consumption now is quite bad. So i use Juice Defender(free), it says the battery improved by 1.4X, but overnight consumption in standby mode could cost up to 40%, is there any ways to solve this?
Thanks
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One suggestion is to stop using Juice Defender. I think it is keeping the the phone out of deep sleep, causing the overnight battery drain. Also, check if your wifi is set to turn off at screen off (Settings > Wifi > Wifi > [menu > advanced] > Wifi Sleep Policy). Turning off mobile data, or switching to 2g, will also help. Background data and syncing will also reduce battery life.
And yes, it should have been in Q&A.
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Frosty666 said:
One suggestion is to stop using Juice Defender. I think it is keeping the the phone out of deep sleep, causing the overnight battery drain. Also, check if your wifi is set to turn off at screen off (Settings > Wifi > Wifi > [menu > advanced] > Wifi Sleep Policy). Turning off mobile data, or switching to 2g, will also help. Background data and syncing will also reduce battery life.
And yes, it should have been in Q&A.
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I dont use data nor sync, i will only on the wifi if i need them, so i not sure why they drained so fast during the night since i off them, the day was ok(maybe due to JD).
Not sure is there any other alternative to help with this situation if i dont use JD?
Check your CPU usage using CPU spy overnight. Your phone should spend at least 90% in deep sleep. If not then something is keeping your phone awake burning up battery.
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Check your CPU usage using CPU spy overnight. Your phone should spend at least 90% in deep sleep. If not then something is keeping your phone awake burning up battery.
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I just downloaded it from the market, all the bar have % in them, how do i just check overnight data?
You'll just have to leave your phone on through the night, then check CPU Spy again.
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You'll just have to leave your phone on through the night, then check CPU Spy again.
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The original data wont affect anything? Because the data now are quite low on the deep sleep. only 30over %.
Before you go to bed, reboot phone and then leave it. Check CPU when you wake.
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Just my 2 cents,
Juice Defender made my phone run extremely HOT
and the battery was draining significantly faster than usual.
Green Power Free is a good and free alternative, less features (only controls data & WiFi) but much easier to set-up too.
And it doesn't hurt battery life all that much.
Bear in mind though, any app that runs constantly in the background
and manages core phone functions, will impact your battery and CPU usage.
In my opinion, an APN and WiFi on/off widgets come quite handy.
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Before you go to bed, reboot phone and then leave it. Check CPU when you wake.
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Alright, got it. Will update the result within these few days and ask for more advice. Thanks guys.
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iridaki said:
Just my 2 cents,
Juice Defender made my phone run extremely HOT
and the battery was draining significantly faster than usual.
Green Power Free is a good and free alternative, less features (only controls data & WiFi) but much easier to set-up too.
And it doesn't hurt battery life all that much.
Bear in mind though, any app that runs constantly in the background
and manages core phone functions, will impact your battery and CPU usage.
In my opinion, an APN and WiFi on/off widgets come quite handy.
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I will try that and uninstall JD instead. =D
Actually i dont use data at all, so data ia off all the time. Wifi i used it at times, but i do off it when not in use. Sync i do not put it as auto too. I kill task quite often too.
EDIT: that app like dont do much, i didnt change change the setting at all, somewhat my basic settings. =X
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I kill task quite often too.
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DON'T.
See, most -if not all- task killers use a very "nasty" way to kill apps
and the system thinks that they crashed and immediately restarts them.
Which leads to increased CPU usage and battery drain.
Don't kill tasks, let Android handle its memory.
Does Android tell you what to eat and when?
Why should you tell it how to function?
If you have many useless apps that include background services,
(and I bet you have, since you are not using data and you installed Juice Defender! hehehe )
consider uninstalling them to "clean up" your phone.
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DON'T.
See, most -if not all- task killers use a very "nasty" way to kill apps
and the system thinks that they crashed and immediately restarts them.
Which leads to increased CPU usage and battery drain.
Don't kill tasks, let Android handle its memory.
Does Android tell you what to eat and when?
Why should you tell it how to function?
If you have many useless apps that include background services,
(and I bet you have, since you are not using data and you installed Juice Defender! hehehe )
consider uninstalling them to "clean up" your phone.
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Mostly i have is games and i do play them, i will uninstall them when i dont need them =X Some do pop out after crashing them, then i just force close them if they appear on the kill task list again.
Programs which appeared on the kill task list is what are actually running?
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Mostly i have is games and i do play them, i will uninstall them when i dont need them =X Some do pop out after crashing them, then i just force close them if they appear on the kill task list again.
Programs which appeared on the kill task list is what are actually running?
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No, programs in the kill task list can be in either one of 5 states.
Read this:
Android
On Android, apps are suspended when they are no longer visible to the user. Suspended means the app is still in memory, but it is frozen. No processing or event handling happens. If the system needs additional memory, the least-frequently used apps that are suspended (in the background) have their state saved to persistent storage and are then killed, freeing up their memory. To the user though, those apps still appear to be in the background. When they are brought to the foreground to be used again, they are restarted and passed an object containing their last state so they can be restored to look exactly as the user left them.
If an app requires processing while in the background, then it must also have a service component. A service on Android is like a separate small application that runs without a user interface in the background (though not actually a separate application). The service has a server/client relationship with the app. It performs whatever action an app needs it to continue performing should the app be suspended. For example, the service might handle all uploading, so if an app is placed in the background while an upload is in progress, the upload continues. Or, like Pandora, the service might handle all network streaming and audio output with the app only acting as the front-end controls. Unlike apps, services are not suspended or killed (except in extreme low-memory conditions).
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So, no need for task-killers, you are only making things worse. Trust me on that.
hey guys, im one of those sufferers of poor battery life on my nexus ever since i went to ics and i was wondering if you guys could share any of your own tips for saving batt.
personally i always turn off the auto rotate and disable g+ and nfc.
flash custom kernel..
matr1x kernel, TEUV ..
Or..flashing Bugless Beast ROM...
No matter what ROM/Kernel you flash, the biggest battery drainer of them all is the screen. (Evident in the battery history in settings.) Setting the brightness as low as possible will help battery life dramatically.
If you have a SAMOLED display, black/red backgrounds help save battery life tremendosly over any other color. (White obviously drains the battery the most.) For this reason, if you have AOKP or CM9/CNA I recommned flashing the Black Infinitum Theme. Black framework and inverted apps!
Also, other rules apply such as not syncing as frequently, reducing rogue apps that produce wakelocks (i.e. not letting your phone enter DEEP SLEEP.)
Download CPU Spy and check out the percentage of time your phone is in DEEP SLEEP. Mine is usually in the 80-90%, depending on your usage.
Check out Bedalus' battery thread on kernel settings: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22126792
Also, DO NOT fall into the trap of using task killers. All they do is consume more unnecessary CPU cycles. What about freeing more RAM you ask? Freed RAM does not consume less power than used RAM. In fact it may use more power when you want to boot up that app you just killed. Instead of fetching the data from RAM, it has to reload the contents once again.
However, I do have an exception with Juice Defender. Personally, if you want your email to sync every hour or so this is a great tool. Instead of leaving your data on, JD will turn on for a few minutes every hour (or any other user defined interval) and allow any apps which need data to sync. After this short period when it is on, JD will automatically turn off data for you.
1. Flash a custom kernel. I like matr1x best, it gives me great performance and awesome battery life.
2. Know what uses the most power. As the guy above me said, it's the screen. Lower the brightness. The next is 4g. turn it off if you aren't using it. The GPS and 3g are next. Use the power widget and only turn them off if you NEED them. Always use wifi if you can.
3. Set your CPU for battery savings. Download NS tools. Set the governor to ondemand. 200 minimum, and 1000 max. LiveOC to 105. Deep idle off. Leave the voltages as they are. They aren't worth playing with much, as the Mart1x kernel is already undervolted.
3. Turn off autosync. It drains battery. I can put my phone down overnight and it will loose 2-4% when this is turned off. Just remember to refresh things yourself!
This is all I have. It will improve things a lot!
1. use 2g only and switch to 3G when high speed is needed. you will notice huge difference in battery savings
2. use matrix kernel with conservative governor. Apex is a good ROM out there as of now
3. remove auto rotate and set the screen brightness to low - dont use auto
4. turn off NFC
Turn phone off. JK. Best of luck on saving juice. I agree with everything that has been said. I use no screen saver. Black background. I am using the latest CM9 w/Air kernel. (Matrix is good to.) I use it with about 2.5Hours of screen "on" time. 21-24 hours. I never charge the phone and I swap the batteries.
I use a battery saving app called "GreenPower" and set it to only sync my email once every one hour, whenever my NS' screen is off.
Also, I don't use memory hog apps, like Facebook and Google Maps, that keep running in the background; I only use their web-based versions.
You could also try "calibrating" your NS' battery by draining it to 0%, then charge it all the way (non-stop) up to 100%.
Use task manager, which is free on the app market to kill battery intensive task automatically
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Don't use task managers. Android manages tasks fine on its own. Task killers are known to kill system processes which take a ton of power to restart, amongst other things. They're overall not good for your phone unless you are on Froyo or below lol. Also look into the app Auto starts and freeze apps that you don't use. Alongside other suggestions here you'll save a ton of battery. Disabling animations and vibrations help too.
I get about 4 hours on-screen time with this set up, and a whopper of idling time.
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I definitely agree with several of the posts here. Definitely root, rom, and install a different kernel. 4.0.3 based ROMS I have found don't have as good battery life as 4.0.4 based ROMS..
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I definitely agree with several of the posts here. Definitely root, rom, and install a different kernel. 4.0.3 based ROMS I have found don't have as good battery life as 4.0.4 based ROMS..
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i have the same problem with 4.0.3 rom i change all the roms i cant find , the battery with hard use is aboyt 4 houres ....
now i play with covernon and ns tools
Hard to define yet, it feels like there's no particular quan at battery life of each nexus s:sly:
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You can also download BetterBatteryStats. It can tell you which apps are consuming more power on your phone.
If you are on ICS 4.0.3 Stock, you might want to think on installing a custom ROM based on 4.0.4.
Disable background processes (Whatsapp, FB, Twitter, etc). If you are not using Wireless, disable it.
Also, if you use apps which contains ads, it has been found that these ads will consume about 70% of the total power consumption of this app. An adfree might help on these situations.
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You can also download BetterBatteryStats. It can tell you which apps are consuming more power on your phone.
If you are on ICS 4.0.3 Stock, you might want to think on installing a custom ROM based on 4.0.4.
Disable background processes (Whatsapp, FB, Twitter, etc). If you are not using Wireless, disable it.
Also, if you use apps which contains ads, it has been found that these ads will consume about 70% of the total power consumption of this app. An adfree might help on these situations.
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This, basically. I think we should have a popup saying "BETTERBATTERYSTATS" as soon as someone types in the word "battery" into a thread title. Maybe force them to download it before proceeding, too
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This, basically. I think we should have a popup saying "BETTERBATTERYSTATS" as soon as someone types in the word "battery" into a thread title. Maybe force them to download it before proceeding, too
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Agreed! This sounds like a good idea