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Tmobile screw the g2 and froyo up

Well my friend just got ab tmobile g2 yesterday and it come with 2.2. But tmobile screw it up by taking out the wifi hotspot tether. So now the fone still need to b root to use tether. I thonk it gonna b the same for the rest of us waiting for froyo.: angry:
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1) this is not news, we have known that for a long time.
2) what does this have to do with the vibrant?
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Dont u think that if they took that from the g2 then it would b the same for us (vibrant) ?
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tructo said:
Dont u think that if they took that from the g2 then it would b the same for us (vibrant) ?
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it doesn't matter.
Once we have root, it's a moot point

tructo said:
Well my friend just got ab tmobile g2 yesterday and it come with 2.2. But tmobile screw it up by taking out the wifi hotspot tether. So now the fone still need to b root to use tether. I thonk it gonna b the same for the rest of us waiting for froyo.: angry:
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This was mentioned many places on the web well before the phone launch. If you expected differently, then you must live in fantasy land.

tructo said:
Dont u think that if they took that from the g2 then it would b the same for us (vibrant) ?
Why are you worried about a 2.2 fix right now? We still don't have the 2.1 OTA. We are months away from an official 2.2 release.
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I thought you were going to mention that numerous physical issues people are having with it, such as the loose and snapping sliding mechanisms, and an incorrect amount of storage installed

Looks like those g2 people should stop coming on here talking about there phone LOL!
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/01/g2-...units-shipping-with-half-the-promised-memory/

creglenn said:
Looks like those g2 people should stop coming on here talking about there phone LOL!
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/01/g2-...units-shipping-with-half-the-promised-memory/
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Lmfaooooo everything has issues and I knew it would too. I've had a few htc devices in my days....

So tmobile screwed up by a removing a feature that goes against their terms and conditions. (common with all carriers)'
Damn, I wonder what the average IQ of vibrants owners is?

If u know that 2.1 international galaxy s should have the 3g sharing but we don't, then it is not any news that we wont have it in 2.2
Anyway, it maybe year-early to talk about 2.2

creglenn said:
Looks like those g2 people should stop coming on here talking about there phone LOL!
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/01/g2-...units-shipping-with-half-the-promised-memory/
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Yeah. I read this and smirked a bit at all of the people who were going to throw this "garbage" Samsung phone away and "upgrade" to the HTC experience with the G2.
As a side note, the loose hinge eventually happened with my G1 as well. The screen stopped sitting flush with the rest of the body, and anytime you would use the touch screen it clanked together with the keyboard. Also had some touch screen issues because of it. But, I digress.

MMcCraryNJ said:
Yeah. I read this and smirked a bit at all of the people who were going to throw this "garbage" Samsung phone away and "upgrade" to the HTC experience with the G2.
As a side note, the loose hinge eventually happened with my G1 as well. The screen stopped sitting flush with the rest of the body, and anytime you would use the touch screen it clanked together with the keyboard. Also had some touch screen issues because of it. But, I digress.
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just goes to show, nothing is going to be perfect.

Yea, I seen that earlier (came in over twitter).
It makes me actually look forward to getting my replacement Vibrant in.
They need to hurry up (backordered ).
That hinge is so full of fail, I just don't know what to say.
If Samsung had better developers, they could be cleaning up right now, Lol.

N8ter said:
Yea, I seen that earlier (came in over twitter).
It makes me actually look forward to getting my replacement Vibrant in.
They need to hurry up (backordered ).
That hinge is so full of fail, I just don't know what to say.
If Samsung had better developers, they could be cleaning up right now, Lol.
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Backorderd? I just got my second replacement in a weeks time
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Both the phones have their positives and negatives...

Yea, well TMO is just being themselves...although to be honest I think they are making a mistake, but luckily we are on a forum full of devs so we may be able to get the original version of Froyo before it got gutted by TMO

tructo said:
Well my friend just got ab tmobile g2 yesterday and it come with 2.2. But tmobile screw it up by taking out the wifi hotspot tether. So now the fone still need to b root to use tether. I thonk it gonna b the same for the rest of us waiting for froyo.: angry:
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LOL I guess you haven't heard about the bigger screw up. The phone is advertised as having 4GB internal memory, mysteriously most of that memory is not available, and T-Mobile wants people to believe the OS ate most of it up.
Also the hinge is messed up

How much can I get for my g2?

So I have a g2 that came from htc and has an imei flagged as a test phone. I was the first one with tethering and wifi calling and have gotten test OTAs since then. I'm getting the mytouch hd. You think my g2 is worth any more than normal?
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Personally, I would not want it at all. Never know when they are going to send you a "special" OTA and do something that cannot be un-done.

carlsbad0331 said:
Personally, I would not want it at all. Never know when they are going to send you a "special" OTA and do something that cannot be un-done.
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Lol why would they do that? And the right dev could do magic with it.
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what build number is the OS maybe a screen shot... thanks

drumking said:
what build number is the OS maybe a screen shot... thanks
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Exactly. Without proof this is just more BS like the "test" OTAs that went out to like 2 phones a few weeks ago.
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seancneal said:
Exactly. Without proof this is just more BS like the "test" OTAs that went out to like 2 phones a few weeks ago.
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No need to be bitter just because you didn't get it.

jashsu said:
No need to be bitter just because you didn't get it.
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This op is one of the ones that got the OTA a few weeks ago. He never made it clear to anybody that it was a special test phone at that time (although he did state it didn't come from T-Mobile). This sent everyone into a tizzy thinking there was the possibility of an OTA for the masses being sent out.
That being said, I'd a pay a small premium for that phone over a standard G2. Risky as far as warranty goes, but that's true of anything you buy used I suppose.
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name a price and we can negotiate. no low balling and no highway robberies

so
imho not more than a regular.
hopefully your phone isn't like some HD2s that have something crippled/missing/less ram, etc,,

drumking said:
what build number is the OS maybe a screen shot... thanks
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1.22.531.5
seancneal said:
Exactly. Without proof this is just more BS like the "test" OTAs that went out to like 2 phones a few weeks ago.
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I WAS the test OTA... I was the FIRST one and have gotten OTAs since then.
seancneal said:
This op is one of the ones that got the OTA a few weeks ago. He never made it clear to anybody that it was a special test phone at that time (although he did state it didn't come from T-Mobile). This sent everyone into a tizzy thinking there was the possibility of an OTA for the masses being sent out.
That being said, I'd a pay a small premium for that phone over a standard G2. Risky as far as warranty goes, but that's true of anything you buy used I suppose.
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scrizz said:
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imho not more than a regular.
hopefully your phone isn't like some HD2s that have something crippled/missing/less ram, etc,,
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Definitely not crippled. Everything works phenomenal.

I don't understand why this device is worth more, all it has is a test imei that allows for test otas. It's not like it's nand unlocked and can be broken into. No offense to the OP, but once we get the nand unlocked, people that root, won't be looking forward to OTAs, except for new releases of Android instead.

hah2110 said:
Lol why would they do that? And the right dev could do magic with it.
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What magic can be done with it? Can it make my mortgage payment go down? Can it make my Ex-Wife disappear? Hell, maybe I would be interested as long as you have proof that it can do magic!

a cop was trying to pull me over, i took my sweet time before i pulled over, even sped up some. when i finally stopped he was pissed. he asked me "why didnt you pull over when i put on my lights, and you even sped up, are you crazy? you better have one good explanation". i replied: "well, sir, my ex-wife left me for a police officer, and i was speeding because i thought you were trying to bring her back". he cracked up, and let me on my way without a ticket.

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a cop was trying to pull me over, i took my sweet time before i pulled over, even sped up some. when i finally stopped he was pissed. he asked me "why didnt you pull over when i put on my lights, and you even sped up, are you crazy? you better have one good explanation". i replied: "well, sir, my ex-wife left me for a police officer, and i was speeding because i thought you were trying to bring her back". he cracked up, and let me on my way without a ticket.
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thats funny

I'll give ya $50 bucks + shipping.

$100AUD + shipping

A freshly baked cookie and a big hug...?

Atrix 4G Sideloading [Inspire 4G - A sign of things to come?]

This is good news for everyone who was hoping for sideloading.
http://briefmobile.com/htc-inspire-4g-allows-application-sideloading

Wrong phone dude, thats for the HTC Inspire not the Atrix.

dreadlord369 said:
Wrong phone dude, thats for the HTC Inspire not the Atrix.
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Yes. But the Inspire is on AT&T, and it's the very first AT&T Android device to allow sideloading.
The point is that hopefully AT&T is signalling a change for all Android devices, including the Atrix 4G.

kennethpenn said:
Yes. But the Inspire is on AT&T, and it's the very first AT&T Android device to allow sideloading.
The point is that hopefully AT&T is signalling a change for all Android devices, including the Atrix 4G.
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I get that but from the the title it seemed like you were saying that the atrix had sideloading. You should edit it. But yea that would be nice if they did allow it on future phones like the atrix.

dreadlord369 said:
I get that but from the the title it seemed like you were saying that the atrix had sideloading. You should edit it. But yea that would be nice if they did allow it on future phones like the atrix.
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I made it clearer for people who might not be able to understand.

kennethpenn said:
Yes. But the Inspire is on AT&T, and it's the very first AT&T Android device to allow sideloading.
The point is that hopefully AT&T is signalling a change for all Android devices, including the Atrix 4G.
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I doubt AT&T is going to change anything. Other sources are saying that the Inspire also has sideloading blocked.
Looks like now these other sources are reversing what they were saying yesterday. I wonder why the Inspire has sideloading but doesn't have the option to turn it on and off in settings?

I dont understand, I have yet to get an android device and due to ****ty ATT and im in the stone age with the TP2. Can't we put custom roms on these phones and bypass all the bull**** and side-load what evs? Isn't that what this site is about? Am I missing something here?

sdlopez83 said:
I dont understand, I have yet to get an android device and due to ****ty ATT and im in the stone age with the TP2. Can't we put custom roms on these phones and bypass all the bull**** and side-load what evs? Isn't that what this site is about? Am I missing something here?
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You can't use full custom roms on Moto phones. Apparently they didn't get the memo on what Android is and they're trying to be Apple. The Inspire should be able to use custom kernels. The Atrix will be rooted and will probably get custom roms just not roms with custom kernels. As long as the phone works like it should and isn't an abortion like the Captivate I won't need custom roms.

sigh, I feel so outdated

sdlopez83 said:
sigh, I feel so outdated
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I have an HTC Fuze....how due you think I feel. Not only that but I have an old uber 20 dollar unlimited everything plan so I have to pay full price for my next phone.

LSUtigers03 said:
You can't use full custom roms on Moto phones. Apparently they didn't get the memo on what Android is and they're trying to be Apple. The Inspire should be able to use custom kernels. The Atrix will be rooted and will probably get custom roms just not roms with custom kernels. As long as the phone works like it should and isn't an abortion like the Captivate I won't need custom roms.
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We don't really know this, yet.

show me the magic i am not getting this phone (atrix) until i see a magically awsome dont care how they do it way to get a custom rom on here waiting for it and then ill get this phone

ram8704 said:
I have an HTC Fuze....how due you think I feel. Not only that but I have an old uber 20 dollar unlimited everything plan so I have to pay full price for my next phone.
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ME TOO!!! I can relate

bfrank said:
ME TOO!!! I can relate
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I had a Fuze too, briefly, til it met a tragic end and then the great insurance thru AT&T found a loophole and refused to replace it. If AT&T didn't offer the best service in the backwoods where I live, would have dropped them a long time ago. Sprint, not an option.. T-Maybe not even present at the table.. VZW took over AllHell and have not touched the infrastructure since then. And I bought out my contract just to leave AllHell early they were soooo bad.

Apparently the Atrix DOES NOT SUPPORT SIDELOADING
http://www.everythingandroid.org/mo...port-non-market-app-installations/2011/02/10/

darklipslide said:
Apparently the Atrix DOES NOT SUPPORT SIDELOADING
http://www.everythingandroid.org/mo...port-non-market-app-installations/2011/02/10/
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Right. Because it's on AT&T...which doesn't allow sideloading. According to CNET, though, it will allow users to remove AT&T bloatware, so one less thing to do after rooting.

darklipslide said:
Apparently the Atrix DOES NOT SUPPORT SIDELOADING
http://www.everythingandroid.org/mo...port-non-market-app-installations/2011/02/10/
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I wish some of these idiot reviewers would sideload via another method and let us know how it goes.
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The future of Custom Roms on the EVO 3D might be slim...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/19/htc-thunderbolt-rooted-for-real-locked-files-nearly-sour-the-de/
They got the thunderbolt rooted, but every file is locked and signed. ;(

Hrshycro said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/19/htc-thunderbolt-rooted-for-real-locked-files-nearly-sour-the-de/
They got the thunderbolt rooted, but every file is locked and signed. ;(
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I can't believe this I thought HTC would never do this to the community!
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ouch. thats grim.

Honestly, I'd be very surprised if the Evo 3D was locked down like this. I'm willing to bet that Verizon asked them to make it this way, and they complied.
Sprint, on the other hand, hasn't been the type of company to try to keep everything locked down and make it harder for the dev community. Big V definitely has, as exemplified by the Droid X.
Besides, even if it does come out all locked down like that, the devs here will have it opened up within a few days.

that would have been my next question, if V had requested this setup specifically.
it would seem the "other companies" are oh-so-bunched-up re: tethering w/o a plan, being the big issue with custom ROMs. Sprint might not be as concerned (so far) about that, and thus, not concerned about rooted phones? idk... idle speculation

No surprise here. After all, they did cripple their gpus for over 4 years. This is nothing. Htc = garbage.

Hoping that this is just because of douche-baggery on Verizon's part -- that they requested the phone be totally locked down, like the Moto products that they are selling.
On the other hand, the devs only took three days to break all that ****, so perhaps it's a case of "anything you can do, we can do better," and HTC/Verizon's efforts will meet with utter #FAIL.

abduljaffar said:
Htc = garbage.
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compared to what, exactly?

I an confidant I will have super user permissions and custom everything thanks to my geek friends on here.
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kingdazy said:
compared to what, exactly?
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His opinion. Take it as a grain of salt
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TonyArmstrong said:
Hoping that this is just because of douche-baggery on Verizon's part -- that they requested the phone be totally locked down, like the Moto products that they are selling.
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I'm betting that this is the case.

Am I the only one thinking: so what?
So I can't jack sense... That will do nothing to stop me from replacing the files with a CM ROM. Signing the files doesn't prevent the replacing of files...
Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.

Engadget is usually slow with these updates, they've already gotten around this issue. Thunderbolt is as open as it can get
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/

Justin.G11 said:
Am I the only one thinking: so what?
So I can't jack sense... That will do nothing to stop me from replacing the files with a CM ROM. Signing the files doesn't prevent the replacing of files...
Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.
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I think it does. I remember back when we were starting to flashing ROMs... well they had to be signed in order to be installed or the recovery program would outright refuse to put it on the phone. I guess the implication on this is that even the recovery image itself must be signed in order to install as well as the ROMs. Now, with the EVO, the recovery part does not care if the ROM zip file is signed or not (well, RA has this setting disabled so it will flash regardless) but there was one point where any file that needed to be flashed on the device needed to be signed.

psych2l said:
Engadget is usually slow with these updates, they've already gotten around this issue. Thunderbolt is as open as it can get
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/
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Yay!!!
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psych2l said:
Engadget is usually slow with these updates, they've already gotten around this issue. Thunderbolt is as open as it can get
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/
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I highly doubt it is even possible for any company to completely lock out android hackers. We have some of the most knowledgeable hackers in our community, some of whom have been around for many many years and have seen there share of OS's
They can slow us down, but they can never stop us.
If they do manage to stop us then I shall move to windows 7 (highly unlikely)

starplaya93 said:
I highly doubt it is even possible for any company to completely lock out android hackers. We have some of the most knowledgeable hackers in our community, some of whom have been around for many many years and have seen there share of OS's
They can slow us down, but they can never stop us.
If they do manage to stop us then I shall move to windows 7 (highly unlikely)
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Yup and we will all get a clone of every chick we would love to smash (also highly unlikely)
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LoveisPeace2012 said:
I can't believe this I thought HTC would never do this to the community!
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id bet cash its Verizon and not HTC doing this

blackroseMD1 said:
Honestly, I'd be very surprised if the Evo 3D was locked down like this. I'm willing to bet that Verizon asked them to make it this way, and they complied.
Sprint, on the other hand, hasn't been the type of company to try to keep everything locked down and make it harder for the dev community. Big V definitely has, as exemplified by the Droid X.
Besides, even if it does come out all locked down like that, the devs here will have it opened up within a few days.
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I bet you're right, verizon is anal about locking their phones down, they are evil people! I hate verizon...

According to some of the comments it is the same old locked bootloader as the evo and incredible. I doubt HTC will try that hard to lock them down.
heck, sometimes I wonder if they give hints about security holes on purpose. Just the other day I saw something in one of the new ROM leaks that gave me some ideas

root

Hey guys I'm coming from the HTC inspire to HTC evo. Over at the inspire forums they have a super one click option to take s off and root the device it was very simple with video instructions as well. What's the easiest way you guys have here to root the evo? I was looking at a thread but it has about 50 steps any other way around that? Is there a super one click option?

unfortunately... those of us with the OTA update are stuck with rootless EVO's...
the fortunate users had previously rooted their phones with a drag and drop i believe... (don't take my word on that, i joined the root sensation a little late... hence my rootless phone) but i think it was like 5 steps er so... it didn't look too bad and it was even easier for you if your on a linux platformed pc with unrevoked er sumthing like that...
either way the EVO is an outstanding phone and i stand by it, until something better comes out... (not the nexus s)

If you have a android 2.2 model go to http://unrevoked.com/#evo for the easiest to use tool around.
If you have android 2.3.3 go to http://vaseline.com/ and lube up because you are screwed until someone releases an exploit

jessejames111981 said:
If you have a android 2.2 model go to http://unrevoked.com/#evo for the easiest to use tool around.
If you have android 2.3.3 go to http://vaseline.com/ and lube up because you are screwed until someone releases an exploit
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hahahahahaha

Wow! Thanks . Are all evos now coming with 2.3 or 2.2?

cal4877 said:
Wow! Thanks . Are all evos now coming with 2.3 or 2.2?
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from what I've read on numerous threads on here, 99% of the new ones are coming with 2.3, even the refurbs.

cal4877 said:
Wow! Thanks . Are all evos now coming with 2.3 or 2.2?
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IT seems some best buys still have 2.2 stock they are pushing. Who knows how long this will last

so you guys don't have a way to go back to stock not even with h boot? That sucks man. I'll probably stay with the inspire for now. HTC sense comes with stock 2.3 and they got "s" off already according to HTC clay on twitter I hope soon some dev will root the new evo with 2.3

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so you guys don't have a way to go back to stock not even with h boot? That sucks man. I'll probably stay with the inspire for now. HTC sense comes with stock 2.3 and they got "s" off already according to HTC clay on twitter I hope soon some dev will root the new evo with 2.3
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Why would you switch from the inspire to the evo? its practically the same phone. We own both
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jessejames111981 said:
If you have a android 2.2 model go to http://unrevoked.com/#evo for the easiest to use tool around.
If you have android 2.3.3 go to http://vaseline.com/ and lube up because you are screwed until someone releases an exploit
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unfortunately i belong to the latter of the two...

I'm switching to sprint because I don't get great signal at work. They have an sprint antenna on the roof and anyone that has a sprint phone can run 4g all day long and also I like the front facing camera too something that the inspire don't have.

cal4877 said:
I'm switching to sprint because I don't get great signal at work. They have an sprint antenna on the roof and anyone that has a sprint phone can run 4g all day long and also I like the front facing camera too something that the inspire don't have.
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Completely forgot about the front cam ....i never use mine
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The only thing front facing cameras are good for are porn with a gf and face security to log into the phone with. *of course the programs on the market don't actually work with a rooted evo* haha

Why not get the 3vo? Piss off all if your evo owning buddies...
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