[Q] Are people still working on the bootloader? - Droid 2 General

I am not really an Android expert or anything and I only read this forum, so I could be wrong here. It seems that there is not much news regarding the bootloader, but some people have posted that people are still working on it or believe that some people are getting close or whatever. Is this the best place to read about progress on the bootloader or is there another forum I should keep an eye on?
Thanks.

There is not much you can read, birdman is working on it with some people, so I guess you could follow birdman's twitter.
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I saw a good explanation the other day, from what it sounds like they are still a ways off
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What is taking so long? I didn't think motorola would make it that difficult..
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There is some info here
http://nenolod.net/~nenolod/sholes/README
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btw what is birdman's twitter... I looked up birdman on twitter and it just came up with the rapper and some dude posting in a foreign language and a bunch of fake rappers.

tada!!!
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-2-hacks/84717-bootloader-crack-imminent.html
check this S**T out

_mrbirdman_ . The underscores are important.
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ljbaumer said:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-2-hacks/84717-bootloader-crack-imminent.html
check this S**T out
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NOICE
imminent is also one of my alltime favorite words

From the twitters of the guys working on the booatloader, it sounds like they are both giving up. birdman says he's giving up on the DX and moving on to other devices, though he also says AOSP is fully working sans camera for the D2 and the DX. nenolod had this to say about 8 hours ago as well "i am convinced that short of motorola coughing up their keys, the bootloader won't be unlocked. sorry "
Sounds like we are gunna be SOL on an unlocked bootloader, but at least the roms are coming along still

bladearronwey said:
From the twitters of the guys working on the booatloader, it sounds like they are both giving up. birdman says he's giving up on the DX and moving on to other devices, though he also says AOSP is fully working sans camera for the D2 and the DX. nenolod had this to say about 8 hours ago as well "i am convinced that short of motorola coughing up their keys, the bootloader won't be unlocked. sorry "
Sounds like we are gunna be SOL on an unlocked bootloader, but at least the roms are coming along still
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(disclaimer, I'm no expert on this stuff so be gentle, but here's my observations):
Bad news.... I'm not too worried about not the D2 not being able to be cracked, because there's more and more ROMs available, but this might set a bad example. I can't think of any other examples where the manufacturer created a locked down system that the people couldn't crack (phones, games, apps, etc etc). But then again, I'm no expert so feel free to prove me wrong.
I just don't like that it looks like (at this point) they (moto, verizon) will win. It worries me that they might expand on it and lock stuff down more for future devices....

The thing I'm most worried about is that we won't see Gingerbread until Motorola decides to launch an official Gingerbread update for the D2/DX (which will probably happen, but not for quite a while after Gingerbread launches).
The biggest drawback to the locked bootloader is no custom kernels. This doesn't matter much for Froyo, but the kernel version will be different for Gingerbread. It is possible that there will be features in Gingerbread that the Froyo kernel won't support.

angdroid and matt said on their new release of fission that they may have found a way

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Evo 4g rooted before Incredible?

This is the word on the 4G forum here on XDA! Hope this soon leads to the incredible root but for now ill just be jealous.
Link: http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/24/htc-evo-4g-rooted-in-record-time-video/
P.S. Thanks to anyone working on incredible root.
i was equally as upset hope this helps us out
nevermind if you go to the source: http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
they state "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible."
Darn that really sucks
mejdam said:
i was equally as upset hope this helps us out
nevermind if you go to the source: http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
they state "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible."
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Boo!
When I read the news on engadget, I had the warm and fuzzies. Same android build. Same sense. CDMA radio. Rooted! What a downer!
How can we get an INC into these guys hands? I'd be willing to donate some cash if it helps.
Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this on XDA
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Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this on XDA
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Lol not like it would hurt, that **** already full of spam and beggers haha
it was somthing in the bootloader that found that the incredible does not have. But rest assured that its bieng worked on and im sure we will have root.
nah, it wasn't the bootloader
looks to me like he flashed a leaked image based on where he starts the video and seeing how he doesnt show us the bootloader or anything involving recovery/fastboot. My guess is that since this was an evo prerelease is that someone at htc with the shipping rom weasled a su apk in there while also having the test keys to sign. I never see anyone talking on irc and i assume we are months away from root.
edit: after looking on the website it seems as if they have done deeper work than i assumed. I believe there may be similarities in what they did and what we need. He mentions that he used his linux background and knowldge of hacking bootloaders. maybe something is in store for us unlucky incredible users
nope it has been stated that it will not work for us. And it looks like my bootloader theroy is wrong..... mmmmm i wonder what it could be.
are you judging by this little footnote? "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible." - taken from grack.com . If they did anything to the bootloader i would assume an exploit can be derrived from this method. we dont need to use their entire method. From what i hear their bootloader is a higher version than ours which should make it more difficult to crack. If they ever release how they did it Im sure we can find some hope to help us.
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Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this on XDA
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Knowledge is power and not sure what was up your rear when posting but any bit of information on semi similar phones never hurt anyone. Seeing how this isn't a post about an accessory app theme maybe could go into general but this is more of developmental news then general.
Well, I at least feel better knowing others are going through the same "pain" I am faced with. I'll donate my time and resources (I still don't have the Incredible thx to it being sold out everywhere... maybe I will try the Best Buy closest to me... although they kind of stink, they don't even carry any Apple computers while most ever other BB does) to get this fix0rz for the peeple!
Hero_Over said:
looks to me like he flashed a leaked image based on where he starts the video and seeing how he doesnt show us the bootloader or anything involving recovery/fastboot. My guess is that since this was an evo prerelease is that someone at htc with the shipping rom weasled a su apk in there while also having the test keys to sign. I never see anyone talking on irc and i assume we are months away from root.
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Nothing to do with test keys, no leaked images. There is no way to modify it to the incredible.
lol, I knew it was going to be rooted before, but I had some hopes it could have been used to help with the root for the Incredible. Oh well, such is life. I'm sure there are some Verizon Android developers that are still working on this....All the give me root and where's the root and other I want root spamming is not going to help with anything other than the continuous spamming of this section.
I really hate this waiting for the Unlockers/Root for any phone as it's nothing but spamming.
Just be patient and it will come. Then it's time for you to show your gratification to the developers for their hardwork that I'm sure most do in their spare time and not as their source of income...
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Vibrant Custom Q's

It seems like the custom ROMs out right now are for the international version, right?
There should be ROMs coming for US-specific (IE, Vibrant), correct? I just don't want to get something I cannot customize. What scares me is that Samsung will update it to 2.2 and not release 3.0 later on?
Coming from the Touch Pro 2 scene where there are lots of variations as well, there should be roms that are compatible with multiple handsets and even some geared towards specific phones. Additional add-ons might be required for button layouts or something but I'm not sure how it works since I am speaking with experience only in the Windows Mobile area.
Regarding the update, it's really hard to tell since we don't even have the 2.2 update yet. But hopefully, they'll continue to support the Galaxy S as it's Samsung's direct iPhone competitor.
We should be able to flash any firmware for the galaxy s including the modaco rom. The real question is will we be able to get a hacked recovery to stick like amon_ra or cynogen ? Ps my phone comes this week im freaking excited!!
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blackerwater said:
We should be able to flash any firmware for the galaxy s including the modaco rom. The real question is will we be able to get a hacked recovery to stick like amon_ra or cynogen ? Ps my phone comes this week im freaking excited!!
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I'm excited to and I'm exited to be apart of building the vibrant section hopefully can atleast beat out the captivate and fascinate page
Thursday morning I'm waking up early and picking this baby up. I hope we can gain root the same way as the international version.
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same going to be at the store 9 am to pick it up then head straight to xda for a root and a cfw that would be a dream
Hopefully the source code that was released by Samsung for the Galaxy S is the same for the Vibrant, which I see no reason why it would change but it is Samsung. If it is, I will help to port CM6 over to the Vibrant. The source code from Samsung that I downloaded yesterday has from what I could see with my quick glance over the drivers (baseband, sound, screen, etc) that would be needed to bake up a custom ROM.
That would be so awesome. I really don't care about samsung supporting this phone, as long as they let devs do their thing. Meaning not to lock up anything ala droid x
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East Coast Rules
9am est on Thur July 15th.. It will be mine
It doesn't matter if they don't officially update it to 3.0, when there is root, there is a way!
BigWorldJust said:
It doesn't matter if they don't officially update it to 3.0, when there is root, there is a way!
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not nessecarily true lol, take a look at the Motorola Milestone for an example, they have had root for a long time now, but cant load a custom rom due to an encrypted bootloader.
That's why I'm saying that if samsung doesn't do it, let the community have what it needs to do it themselves, look at cyan. My g1 should've been obsolete a year ago, but on the contrary its as strong as it was when I first rooted it.
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gothdroid said:
Hopefully the source code that was released by Samsung for the Galaxy S is the same for the Vibrant, which I see no reason why it would change but it is Samsung. If it is, I will help to port CM6 over to the Vibrant. The source code from Samsung that I downloaded yesterday has from what I could see with my quick glance over the drivers (baseband, sound, screen, etc) that would be needed to bake up a custom ROM.
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If the drivers are there, 90% of the work is done. We'll have the latest roms (barring some unlikely extreme performance requirements).
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That's why I'm saying that if samsung doesn't do it, let the community have what it needs to do it themselves, look at cyan. My g1 should've been obsolete a year ago, but on the contrary its as strong as it was when I first rooted it.
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Haven't checked in a while but the Behold 2 was a pain in the ass to root. And Samsung said that they didn't want people hacking their phones. That was a few months ago, since I don't have the phone I haven't checked back. I'm getting this bad boy and hopefully there will be a lot of support for it.
It's really easy to root the vibrant
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Can the bootloader be unlocked?
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disturkis4u said:
It's really easy to root the vibrant
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Second that. Took me 1 minute. Maybe less, LOL. Running tests, everything seems to be working, SU permisions et al.
Not sure on boot, but it seems that Samsung didn't even try to make it hard.
I went back to winmo for a while, and while the HD2 community is great, have to say glad to be back on android.
speoples20 said:
Haven't checked in a while but the Behold 2 was a pain in the ass to root. And Samsung said that they didn't want people hacking their phones. That was a few months ago, since I don't have the phone I haven't checked back. I'm getting this bad boy and hopefully there will be a lot of support for it.
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The behold 2 wasn't too bad to root me and kam187 had it rooted shortly after it launched. The custom roms part was the hard part lol.
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The fact that modaco has a custom ROM out indicates that it's probably going to be fairly easy for us.

Munching popcorn from the Froyo seats

I havent GBed. I wont bother unless its Moto released and rootable. Why? All the "where is this app?", "where is that feature?", "Im loopin bootstrap!", and my personal favorite :"how do I get back to froyo? " ...just click ur heels Dorothy......
Don’t get me wrong, Im the happy beneficiary of rooted stock. And for the folks that are all about the phone geek thing knock urselves out, Im enjoyin the reads. But let's be honest,GB isn't a warm fuzzy balance of enhancements for time invested.
After couple of functionality tweeks like rooting for bloat reduction, Froyo is highly functional and solid. I personally have a limited amount of free time...which incidentally is maximized by my highly feature-laden rock solid DX...and while Iapplaud u bleeding edge cowboys, I'm gonna stay put...til Moto releases GB and somebody here gets it rooted.
just sayin...munch,ymunch,munch...
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Technically with the locked bootloader everybody is running a Motorola released version. This new version of gb that was released was by an ota to a few phones. While not a full fledged update to gb it is very stable and reliable. I have been on it and have zero problems. All of my apps appeared. And no bootloops. The directions for everything that needs to be done are very well done and there is almost a zero percent chance of truly bricking your phone. And with sbf'ing and everything I had to do to get to gb it only took me about fifteen total minutes to get there. Enjoy your stable Froyo and popcorn and I will enjoy my stable Gingerbread.
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jazaddict said:
I havent GBed. I wont bother unless its Moto released and rootable. Why? All the "where is this app?", "where is that feature?", "Im loopin bootstrap!", and my personal favorite :"how do I get back to froyo? " ...just click ur heels Dorothy......
Don’t get me wrong, Im the happy beneficiary of rooted stock. And for the folks that are all about the phone geek thing knock urselves out, Im enjoyin the reads. But let's be honest,GB isn't a warm fuzzy balance of enhancements for time invested.
After couple of functionality tweeks like rooting for bloat reduction, Froyo is highly functional and solid. I personally have a limited amount of free time...which incidentally is maximized by my highly feature-laden rock solid DX...and while Iapplaud u bleeding edge cowboys, I'm gonna stay put...til Moto releases GB and somebody here gets it rooted.
just sayin...munch,ymunch,munch...
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wow. thanks for the worthless post. save that kind of stuff for your therapist. nobody here cares to hear that you're not a flashaholic. geez. how arrogant
EDIT: lol. i just came across your last couple posts in another thread. i see the true reason you havent gone to gingerbread is because you dont know what you're doing. Which, there's nothin wrong with. But dang dude. really? i'll go back to eating my popcorn and enjoying my rock solid gingerbread rom, lol.
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wow. thanks for the worthless post. save that kind of stuff for your therapist. nobody here cares to hear that you're not a flashaholic. geez. how arrogant
EDIT: lol. i just came across your last couple posts in another thread. i see the true reason you havent gone to gingerbread is because you dont know what you're doing. Which, there's nothin wrong with. But dang dude. really? i'll go back to eating my popcorn and enjoying my rock solid gingerbread rom, lol.
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lol that's funny.
He must have got this site confused with facebook.
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Ur right that Im not up on all the knowledge necessary. And that's part of the point....why spend the time? What's the reward for the risk? I've read more "help,I did what it said and my phone won't this that or the other" than ur "rock solid GB" stuff. Glad ur happy, sorry ur such loss poor converationalists.
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jazaddict said:
Ur right that Im not up on all the knowledge necessary. And that's part of the point....why spend the time? What's the reward for the risk? I've read more "help,I did what it said and my phone won't this that or the other" than ur "rock solid GB" stuff. Glad ur happy, sorry ur such loss poor converationalists.
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What's the point? Why do you do things that you do? It's simply because this is a development forum for people who enjoy this stuff. We enjoy flashing things and learning all we can about this stuff. It is fun for us. The reason people have issues is almost 100% user error. That means that they forgot to do something. Or didn't fully download a file. Or did something in the wrong order. There's almost never a problem with the software provided to us. The files work, people just make mistakes
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What's the point? Why do you do things that you do? It's simply because this is a development forum for people who enjoy this stuff. We enjoy flashing things and learning all we can about this stuff. It is fun for us. The reason people have issues is almost 100% user error. That means that they forgot to do something. Or didn't fully download a file. Or did something in the wrong order. There's almost never a problem with the software provided to us. The files work, people just make mistakes
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+1. With the locked bootloader and no way for people to try to flash the radio or kernel. It has made this phone nearly impossible to hard brick. I only know of one. Every other person has worked through there problems by the helpful people and guides on this and other forums. You stick around here long enough and you will be eating gingerbread instead of popcorn.
Edit: I should say no way to flash a custom kernel or custom radio.
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While I share the philosophy of the OP (waiting for OTA and z4root-esque rooting), I don't agree that anyone should avoid applying GB. I did that sort of thing with my WinMo phone and if I felt the need to GB now, I absolutely would with no worries about the quality of the rom.
And with the potential for a long break without being rooted, I may just do that. I'm not up to speed with a lot of this, but will a root for the OTA be possible and will it take some time? I needs my AdFree, Tether and CacheCleaner.
I'm not trying to go against the tone of the thread here by saying this, but I have Gingerbread and am really not looking back. Stock Froyo was boring, everyone will agree with that. From there you had either ApeX or rubiX (or later Liberty). I ran all three actually and settled between Apex and rubiX Focused. Apex is/was good for battery life and overall stability. rubiX Focused is/was good for speed and stability, battery life was a bit less than Apex. But to me Gingerbread is the best of both worlds. 30-40 hour battery life PLUS the much improved (for most) Quadrant scores and overall speed and snappiness is like rubiX + ApeX. (video here)
I guess all I'm trying to say is that *when done properly*, if you flash from your favorite ROM to Gingerbread it's completely doable without any hitches or hangups. The thing to remember here is this: you're going from your favorite build/ROM/setup to something completely foreign. When I first flashed 2.3 (the most recent OTA, deodexed & rooted) there were some things I complained about. Then, with time and just playing around with it, I figured them out. I think most people are "having issues" with it because it's really that much of a change. It's not the jump from 2.2 to 2.2.1. It's a whole new setup, interface and all. I think it's the process that scares people, and that's understandable, but just remember.. it's virtually IMPOSSIBLE to brick your phone. With SBF, you'd almost have to be trying to mess things ups. Find a decent guide and give it a shot. You can always flash back to your current setup.
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While I share the philosophy of the OP (waiting for OTA and z4root-esque rooting), I don't agree that anyone should avoid applying GB. I did that sort of thing with my WinMo phone and if I felt the need to GB now, I absolutely would with no worries about the quality of the rom.
And with the potential for a long break without being rooted, I may just do that. I'm not up to speed with a lot of this, but will a root for the OTA be possible and will it take some time? I needs my AdFree, Tether and CacheCleaner.
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Just a heads up, be careful with Wireless Tether on 2.3.. or even 2.2 if you're going over 5GB. People are saying that's being watched now.
I didn't really say "what's the point", I said the reward for time spent seemed dubious.....and I said I applaud the efforts and am the beneficiary of them. But damn there's lotta varying degrees of success. Part of my trouble is my PC's incompatibilty with the DX drivers that prevents me from sbfing....which seems like the safety net.
Buy beyond that I haven't read anything that puts GB so very much up the foodchain from froyo ....boring? Froyo is boring compared to GB how?
And zippy? My DX is very zippy...
Maybe Im not running enough stuff ;-)
I have to say, extended battery life has my eyebrow raised...that'd be welcome.
To be honest I was thinkin about loading the dx drivers on the DAW side of my dual boot XP box...down side is that boot is offline with no antivirus etc to maximize the resources for the studio ....don't wanna **** up a well-oiled machine....which brings me back to sittin in my chaise lounge on the sideline til GB is as easy as rooting &deodexing was.
Thx for the civil discourse.
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I didn't really say "what's the point", I said the reward for time spent seemed dubious.....and I said I applaud the efforts and am the beneficiary of them. But damn there's lotta varying degrees of success. Part of my trouble is my PC's incompatibilty with the DX drivers that prevents me from sbfing....which seems like the safety net.
Buy beyond that I haven't read anything that puts GB so very much up the foodchain from froyo ....boring? Froyo is boring compared to GB how?
And zippy? My DX is very zippy...
Maybe Im not running enough stuff ;-)
I have to say, extended battery life has my eyebrow raised...that'd be welcome.
To be honest I was thinkin about loading the dx drivers on the DAW side of my dual boot XP box...down side is that boot is offline with no antivirus etc to maximize the resources for the studio ....don't wanna **** up a well-oiled machine....which brings me back to sittin in my chaise lounge on the sideline til GB is as easy as rooting &deodexing was.
Thx for the civil discourse.
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I am definitely getting better battery life. The other day I calibrated my battery and had to wait for 1 day 13 hours and change before the thing finally died. Also if the drivers aren't working for you try this. http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/d...-solution-your-windows-rsd-lite-problems.html
just put it on a cd and go. It is linux. I haven't used it since my windows 7 64 bit system did the job for me just fine, but I have heard a really good response with this. Also, if you have any questions about it the guy is really good at answering them.
Since you are on stock....you are really in the perfect position to upgrade to gb the easiest. Root, Droid 2 Bootstrap, wipe, run the 3 files from tbh, wipe, and reboot. Off you go.
Just to note TBH has put out a rooted version of the GB leak....
I have blur_version.23588.p1 p2. And p3 plus the droid 2 bootstrap. So ur sayin I'm good to go from 2.2 rooted stock froyo up to GB without needing any sbf connection to my PC, right?
This is a good time for me to phuck around w the phone cuz Im off this week.
Couple of last questions :
I bought power amp...am I gonna lose it?
Does the camera settings issue mentioned recently apply to me on this load?
What does OTA stand for?
Can I get back to froyo 2.2 without sbf?
How many pecks in aa bushel?
Thx
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I have blur_version.23588.p1 p2. And p3 plus the droid 2 bootstrap. So ur sayin I'm good to go from 2.2 rooted stock froyo up to GB without needing any sbf connection to my PC, right?
This is a good time for me to phuck around w the phone cuz Im off this week.
Couple of last questions :
I bought power amp...am I gonna lose it?
Does the camera settings issue mentioned recently apply to me on this load?
What does OTA stand for?
Can I get back to froyo 2.2 without sbf?
How many pecks in aa bushel?
Thx
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1. No it will redownload after you flash
2. Yes. No idea why or how to fix
3. Over-the-air. It is an update sent directly to your phone from Verizon.
4. No. But SBF'ing is not difficult at all, it's just the idea that scares people and that people make stupid mistakes
5. I think two, or four maybe. But that is completely unrelated. Look it up
Thx....damn quick response.
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Well she-it...I was all ready to pull the trigger when I double checke file size. #2 should be 16.2m and im only showing 21.7k. Only one of the three links is working.
Anybody know of another link?
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Well she-it...I was all ready to pull the trigger when I double checke file size. #2 should be 16.2m and im only showing 21.7k. Only one of the three links is working.
Anybody know of another link?
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all links work here
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...3-3-4-5-588-install-patch-root.html#post68035
No joy.
Got an abort on the first file. (Good place to get one I guess). These files were downloaded to the wifey's laptop and copied over.
One distinction ...instructions here included "wipe", but the instructions from the modderX site did not mention wipe.
Furthermore there are 2 wipes .... I tried wiping the cache...no joy. The other wipe looked too scary..sumpin about reset factory blah blah blah.....
Its good to be on vacation.
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Fascinate Gingerbread leak, what does that mean for us?

So, the Fascinate recently had a Gingerbread leak drop..... Since that phone is our phone's brother, do you think we will get it too...... Eventually? What do you guys have to say?
Btw: I am still on Vacation for another few days... When I get back I am going to recruit some graphic artists or whatever on xda to see if they can photoshop a quick green wave, or some other color that you guys like... Because I suck at graphic designing... It shouldn't be hard for anyone interested, because they can just use the template from the original blue wave.... Hopefully xD
Btw2: did you guys see the continuum softkey topic on the front page a couple days ago? D
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i would think the continuum would follow the fascinate with gb...however given the rather poor sales of the device (by all accounts a commercial flop) verizon/samsung just might not feel like spending the r&d on it...but im hopeful for u guys they would
I find it unlikely we even get Froyo, yet alone GB. Furthermore, I find it unlikely any developer is going to work on porting GB for the Continuum with the Fascinate leak.
Verizon isn't going to pay Samsung to update this phone. With such low sales, it's more cost-efficient for Verizon to forget about us than it is to release updates. Business is business.
Obviously I could be wrong.
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I find it unlikely we even get Froyo, yet alone GB. Furthermore, I find it unlikely any developer is going to work on porting GB for the Continuum with the Fascinate leak.
Verizon isn't going to pay Samsung to update this phone. With such low sales, it's more cost-efficient for Verizon to forget about us than it is to release updates. Business is business.
Obviously I could be wrong.
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it would be almost impossible to port the touchwiz leaks (froyo/gb) to eclair continuum...aosp is possible i guess...but idk
just hope for the best id think
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I find it unlikely we even get Froyo, yet alone GB. Furthermore, I find it unlikely any developer is going to work on porting GB for the Continuum with the Fascinate leak.
Verizon isn't going to pay Samsung to update this phone. With such low sales, it's more cost-efficient for Verizon to forget about us than it is to release updates. Business is business.
Obviously I could be wrong.
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Pretty much this. It's not going to happen. I've given up on ever getting an update. As soon as my job picks up (FINALLY) I'm selling it and getting a charge or x2 or something.
No expert here..but willing to venture
Did the update, it worked with out a glitch.. was able to root using superoneclick from xda..worked if I did not allow it to install busybox, when I did for somereason my phone wouldnt charge? Which btw adding busybox never popped up before when using superoneclick to root other androids...so far so good.. so far the changes are minimal.....a few extra settings such as font...but nice to have all the same..oh netflix works from the link provided with the leaked instructions...could be a tad scary to flash using ogdin..but it works.
Wait you updated you fascinate with this or your continuum?
I was actually just going to ask something too. If the big problem with modding is the ticker and everything else with the fascinate is essentially the same...can't I just update with this and noir have the ticker work or will the absence of ticker support just kill the phone?
I have tried before to install fascinate odin files on our phone... Didn't work xP The graphic drivers are different, so you can't see anything xP
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I figured it would be a no... could we not just c/p the modules for the drivers and over write the ones for the fascinate? Sorry for asking a lotof questions I'm just horrid at programming so I can't exactly just go try it... Though I want to learn if theres any chance we could get this running from the fascinate build. Anyone know how hard that would be? Or is that even possible?
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I figured it would be a no... could we not just c/p the modules for the drivers and over write the ones for the fascinate? Sorry for asking a lotof questions I'm just horrid at programming so I can't exactly just go try it... Though I want to learn if theres any chance we could get this running from the fascinate build. Anyone know how hard that would be? Or is that even possible?
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They aren't compatible. The drivers we have are for kernel 2.6.29, and the Froyo kernel is 2.6.32.9 (the .9 doesn't really matter to much) and Gingerbread is 2.6.35.x Somewhere betwee 6.29 and 6.32, there was a huge change to the kernel source, and I'm guessing any drivers built for the Eclair kernel we have are not going to work well on Froyo. The Fascinate Froyo source works to build a kernel, but the initramfs sucks, and it isn't something that is easy to troubleshoot really, and I don't have time right now to do so.
Thanks ImNuts, really. I have until about my birthday, July 1st, until I start reteaching myself programming and building it myself. Least I can do is try lol.
TraMaI said:
Thanks ImNuts, really. I have until about my birthday, July 1st, until I start reteaching myself programming and building it myself. Least I can do is try lol.
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If you can get the kernel working, you should at least be able to get most of the system to Froyo, based on the Fascinate releases. The ticker would be an absolute no-go IMO, but you should be able to get the soft-key button images on there.
At this point I don't even care about the ticker. It doesn't work for 90% of what I want to use it for anyways. I would rather just have a phone capable of Froyo use haha.

Next Atrix Bootloader is UNLOCKABLE

As you've probably seen, the2dCour has a very tasty morsel of what's to come for us all. He's one of the many great people in #moto-atrix, including Jug6, Edgan, Sogarth, unknown, Brandon15811, and helpful friends, Pauly, dasmoover, cranch, YellowGTO and more, who have been helping me poke at the Atrix for many weeks. Also, if I know anything at all (I don't) it's thanks to [mbm] and Skrilax and xvilka and the others who implemented the hard work of 2nd init and kexec and beat their head against Motorola's signature chain on the previous generation of phones.
But our biggest thanks go to Motorola. A very friendly 'community-minded engineer' at Motorola posted an interesting message in hex on their support forums yesterday. Turns out, maybe it's no joke after all.
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134786)
This got me to thinking. I was already looking through some of the ascii / hex of the bootloaders. Search for VOID and you'll find something completely new in the HKTW (Hong Kong / Taiwan) build, which is not in the CGs for any prior Atrix bootloader:
Code:
$ strings CG42.img | grep INFO
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INFOUnlocking your device can permanently VOID your warranty.
INFOThis process cannot be reversed. If you wish to proceed,
INFOreissue the unlock OEM command containing the unique ID
INFOof your device:
On Edgan's engineering phone, the HKTW build enables a command you may all be familiar with:
fastboot oem unlock
It looks as if it asks you to issue the command twice, after giving you a unique ID (based on your phone) you must enter in. Surrounding parts of the CG suggest this will wipe your userdata much like a "fastboot -w" currently does. Our hypothesis about the fuses may also be backwards, and it is unlocking which burns a fuse, thus making this an operation which "cannot be reversed."
So, I think we can all look forward to Gingerbread's release for many reasons!!!
PS. Beyond voiding the warranty, or access to support, such an operation could potentially make your phone ineligible for OTAs, future retail .sbfs, etc... and we do not yet know which carriers will get it. So don't get TOO excited
PPS. If this is headed to the official release, I'd like to give a HUGE thanks to Irwin Proud and all the others who petitioned Motorola to make this happen!
But there's no time to rest. Now we must pressure all the carriers!
Confirmed working for AT&T users!! Eval emailed me the good news this morning, so we tried it on leaked GB for the Atrix 4G on AT&T.
http://briefmobile.com/exclusive-atrix-4g-bootloader-unlocked-with-android-2-3-update
I tested it out on my Gingerbread beta builds.
This is excellent news everyone.
Be patient, we need to see if this update hits all our devices, but when it does, I guarantee there will be no shortage of Roms and Mods that will come as a result.
I actually think Motorola may see a spike in sales when 2.3.3 hits their Atrix phones.
Thank you everyone who showed your support for the Unlock Motorola campaign and went out of their way to make their voices heard. Together we stand and together we claim victory.
Thank you Motorola.
Intresting
Yay!
Of course, the question becomes... what next?
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Yay!
Of course, the question becomes... what next?
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Now that Moto's on our side I will (proudly) use my lapdock. How's your awesome Webtop2SD with my mknod sdcard hack going?
But yes, someone must do the much more time-consuming work of porting CM or other AOSP forks. And we have to pray AT&T lets this happen...
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But yes, someone must do the much more time-consuming work of porting CM or other AOSP forks. And we have to pray AT&T lets this happen...
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When this happens, I WILL pinch myself to make sure I'm not dreaming!!
If Bell, lets say, got this and at&t didn't, would we be able to somehow port it?
Swyped from my HoneyGlowed Atrix
Way to guy team This kicks ass!
P.S. the2d is a troll..but a damn good one.
Has this been actually verified, (is there a way to verify on an engineering phone?), as unlocking a bootloader, or is this at the moment still speculation as to what might be possible after the GB update?
Could this just be Moto laying the groundwork for a future update which unlocks the bootloader without us having to do it ourselves voiding warranties, etc?
wakka wakka wakka
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wow! That's awesome news! Can't wait to hear if it's verified.
Verified -- http://briefmobile.com/exclusive-atrix-4g-bootloader-unlocked-with-android-2-3-update
Video in a bit.
kennethpenn said:
Verified -- http://briefmobile.com/exclusive-atrix-4g-bootloader-unlocked-with-android-2-3-update
Video in a bit.
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Im cheesing so hard right now
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Very interesting! Of course, if we have Gingerbread, not much point in CM7 for me, is there an ice cream sandwich or whatever in between or after any time soon from the CyanogenMod bunch?
Cheers!
kennethpenn said:
Confirmed working for AT&T users!!
http://briefmobile.com/exclusive-atrix-4g-bootloader-unlocked-with-android-2-3-update
I tested it out on my Gingerbread beta builds.
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Holy freakin hell!!! Awesome just awesome!! Can ATT actually stop this from happening though?
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Im cheesing so hard right now
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I have a raging clue right now
Just as I put my Atrix up for sale . Good news if the OTA comes out like this. I'll keep it and see i think!
Now let's get that CWM Recovery on it!

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