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Odin vs. OTA

It looks like a lot of brickage from the OTA... not sure what the issue is, but I just successfully updated via Odin using rhcp's .tar file. It was pretty painless, even though my phone is hardware locked (adb worked just fine).
I'm wondering if maybe Odin is the way to go? OTA always seems so chancy to me, so many things can go wrong like low battery or interrupted download. Not hearing about too much brickage going that route...

I updated thru odin only issue stop far is I dont have vibration through my phone now

my buddy got the ota this morning and it soft bricked his phone. we just reappied the update through odin and it was fine, no data lost other than the mods he applied. we did mine next and it went perfectly. we reapplied the mods and everything went smoothly. i say nandroid then odin the update.

cchrono said:
I updated thru odin only issue stop far is I dont have vibration through my phone now
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OCLF 2.1 makes you lose your vibration.
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Has anyone successfully done the OTA with stock + ROM manager + Titanium (or any combination thereof)? So far from cruising the forums seen about 5 people with similar symptoms with these 3 points in common.

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Has anyone successfully done the OTA with stock + ROM manager + Titanium (or any combination thereof)? So far from cruising the forums seen about 5 people with similar symptoms with these 3 points in common.
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Many of the OTA bricking comments mention being rooted. Maybe it's being rooted that's the common denominator?

Not for me. I was rooted, although I removed the OCLF lag fix beforehand. I flashed fine. I think it's far more likely to brick if you've flashed ROMs before.
When the Captivate OTA started bricking phones, there wasn't a single person who had played with ROMs and kernels and managed to successfully update. I get this feeling that a lot of people are doing something wrong when flashing back to stock. Either that or there is something about the Vibrant itself that makes flashing back to stock difficult or inconsistent. Regardless, I think I'm going to hold off on flashing anything else until Froyo hits. I do *not* want to have issues then.
/edit btw, I have Titanium too, so that wasn't a barrier to updating for me.

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/edit btw, I have Titanium too, so that wasn't a barrier to updating for me.
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Let me reiterate. I had no custom roms flashed. Not now, not ever. I had been waiting for the OTA to drop before I started to go crazy. I did have ROM manager installed, and I've got a suspicion that Recovery installation may have prevented a clean OTA install.

Lets nail down the cause of JI6 soft bricks

Hey folks, I've read through all the JI6 OTA threads here and on the TMo forums and while I've seen a few people guess as to the cause of soft bricks, dosen't seem like anyone has nailed down the actual cause. I'm going to assume I'm not the only person out there with no access to a windows box to run ODIN so knowing what if anything can be done to prep my phone before accepting the OTA (that is sitting in my notification bar as we speak) would be immensely helpful.
So far the two best guesses I've seen are the existence of other update.zip files on SD and removal of bloatware, specifically Media Hub and possibly edited startup/shutdown screens.
Since I've got all these going on, I guess I'm staring down the barrel of a brick. But obviously one of these is easily rectified while the others, not so much.
Aside from those claiming bricks on vigin phones. Can we hear from those who have made mods to their rooted devices and either did or did not experience an OTA brick? I think this info will be helpful to many in sorting out what exactly is going on here.

I have black bar mod, I have naked swype, removed most t-mob app except media hub no change to start up or shut downtried to update. 50 % through it said update failed. Then rebooted fine. But I had an extra update.zip on my sd so maybe that's why. But no firmware now? Maybe I'm sol.
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Mine wouldn't complete the update Rooted, most of the bloat removed, had an update on the sd. Was able to get into clockwork after the failed update and am performing a nandroid restore now.

this is great, thank you. beginning to look more like an issue with extra update.zip files than media hub. any successful OTA's with media hub removed prior to accepting the update?
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I never uninstalled Media Hub. I have seen a correlation of about 5 people who had ROM manager installed and used that to install Recovery. Whether it be the installation of Recovery or a possible permissions issue with how it generates the update.zip that may have caused my issue.

just a question, why do people remove media hub? Does the application make the phone slow?

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just a question, why do people remove media hub? Does the application make the phone slow?
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Because up until now, it was a non-functional app. I didn't remove it, I use LauncherPro so I just removed it from my drawer. I'm still not touching this update. I got my Vibrant used so I would be out of luck if it jacked my phone up and I hate using ODIN. Too much hassle when my phone runs great on Bionix 1.4 as it is.

Wife's phone was toasted by OTA. Stuck at Vibrant screen. Rooted, unlocked, she did have an update.zip, if that turns out to be the culprit. Also had some apps removed, replacement startup animations, and removed shutdown junk.
She was set for always-on WiFi, too.

My rooted Vibrant soft bricked yesterday and I had to flash stock with Odin. I had the (what seems to be infamous) update.zip, removed Kindle, Mobi TV, Avatar Icon, Gogo. I had RyanZAOneClickLagFixV1+ installed but removed it. I also had the EXT2 Tools installed. @ the time of the update I was @ work and had a full charge on the phone. I flashed back to stock last night after work, and I haven't recieved the update notificaiton again...maybe TMo crossed me off some type of "update list"?

There are also different possible symptoms.
In my case the update appeared to have completed its cycle, except the tail end of the download of the new update wnt really fast then the system rebooted. System came back up into the Black Vibrant screen. I could start 'adb logcat' and the system had SurfaceFlinger repeatedly crashing.
Attempts in Recovery Mode after this to reinstall files didn't resolve the issue, reboots would still lead to a crashing SurfaceFlinger.
2 separate users in a thread, 1 had removed Boot Animations + Sounds, I only had removed Sounds.
Quite a few people had Stock Roms + Root, but some with Root didn't have any issues. Only correlation was with Titanium + Rom Manager, which a lot of people would have installed since it's listed in the Tips and Tricks thread. Titanium shouldn't do anything to the system unless you generate a backup Update.zip or install LZO support busybox.
One guess is that ROM Manager and Titanium can create a update.zip file that doesn't have the proper permissions. An OTA update that attempts to overwrite this file may get confused. Simply removing the file in advance may alleviate this issue. Another issue is ROM Manager installs ROM Recovery, which may change how the OTA perceives the phone.

Bionix 1.4...
I was running Bionix 1.4 KK OC/UV yesterday morning... Was a little dumbfounded when I received the update message from Tmo. Figured it wouldn't show w/ modded handset. Delayed install until I could read everything on here about it. Tried installing over Bionix last night just to see, and had no joy. I had removed all crapware, mediahub included. Hit 50%, said flash failed, rebooted and was back to my homescreen in no time. No ill effects to phone except being denied upgrade.
So I Odined back to Stock JFD FW (and wiped device for S&G), rooted, and updated from JI6 tar posted. Flashed perfectly, no ill effects as I've noticed. Reception is improved (for me anyway), and GPS functions similar to Bionix... No real incentive for update, but was curious.
I see Bionix 1.7 updated so it was all for nothing.
Now to play with other stuff...
Cheers

My girl friends phone bricked the other night from the OTA, it's rooted(update.zip) and has the bloatware uninstalled, nothing else like lagfix/roms on it etc.
T-Moible is sending her a replacement phone, which im pretty surprised about. Now since we have to send the old phone back so they can check for damage or anything that would void the warrenty.
We get to keep the external SD card(Avatar), now im sure there is a pretty good chance they will find that its been rooted. So we would have to pay $400 they said if its voided.
Now I can't get this phone to boot into download mode or even mount it, so what should I do? I know about ODIN but have never used it, can it mount the phone?

I got the soft brick and had to flash back to stock via Odin and then I flashed the JI6 tar file from the forum. All is working fine now.
I had root but no update.zip file on the sdcard root, had removed startup an shutdown sounds, had used both ROM Manager and Titanium (with LZO compression turned on), and had removed bloatware including the non-functioning Media Hub.
Next time I'll flash back to stock before doing an OTA update.

I am rooted have Titanium backup, ROM Manager, and clockwork mod. I also had an update.zip but I think it was from OCLF not from another source. My update went fine and I'm running without any problems on the new update.

PepeLasNoches said:
My girl friends phone bricked the other night from the OTA, it's rooted(update.zip) and has the bloatware uninstalled, nothing else like lagfix/roms on it etc.
T-Moible is sending her a replacement phone, which im pretty surprised about. Now since we have to send the old phone back so they can check for damage or anything that would void the warrenty.
We get to keep the external SD card(Avatar), now im sure there is a pretty good chance they will find that its been rooted. So we would have to pay $400 they said if its voided.
Now I can't get this phone to boot into download mode or even mount it, so what should I do? I know about ODIN but have never used it, can it mount the phone?
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Woo, got it unbricked! finally got into download mode and ODIN saved the day.
this video was helpful for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnY7P14JSWQ
^ODIN walkthrough

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I'm going to assume I'm not the only person out there with no access to a windows box to run ODIN
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there is a cross platform tool being developed called 'Heimdall'. It is currently a command line tool and is in beta. however people are successfully flashing their phones using it. It is obviously not a 'one click' solution, so you will have to go find the proper files and type out the command.
It can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755265#
If you are the type of person with access to both a windows machine and a linux machine, I suggest you check this out. Testers are needed. Of course you can test if you don't have windows, but it's nice to have Odin as a back up. ;-) just incase....
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I had a failed update twice using Odin. It wasn't until I went back to stock T959JFD for the second time and deleted update.zip and all clockwork back ups that it finally worked. Runs perfect with no issues.
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Was rooted with OCLF, Captive camera, gps fix, rom manager, titanium backup and add removal. Removed the OCLF and unrooted, ran the update, looked like it got to 100% (not sure cause I looked away and then back at it right before reboot) but said update failed. Got stuck at the vibrant screen blah blah. I'm pretty sure I had an update.zip on the sd, but not 100% on that. After pushing the update with ODIN I have noticed my phone lagging quite a bit.... Thoughts?
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[Q] Rooted Vibrant turning on and off

I just had my phone rooted on tuesday by a friend. It started turning itself off for the first few hours and went back to normal for a day. Last night it started turning itself on and off every minute. I know nothing about phones, can anyone help me?

How did your friend root?
Did they delete system apps?
Did they apply lag fixes?
Perhaps just flash a custom rom. Their better than stock and should fix your issue. I hope they didn't do a lag fix. Disable it if they did.

He did something like holding the power button/volume up/down to get into download mode? That's all i know. He said he didn't remove any of the system apps, or change anything. He added a wifi-tethering for me, that's why he rooted it. I know nothing about phones and computers. I'm out of town for another week so i can't have him fix it, but i need to do something so i can use my phone. Any suggestions?

oh ya, he used ODIN if i remember right

I don't know why he would be using Odin if all he was doing was rooting the phone. Can you get to the web to DL anything? I would try flashing something with clockwork till you can re-flash to stock with Odin. You need to find out what exactly your friend did when he worked on your phone.

Can you adb? I would like to see the log.
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my phone wont stay on long enough to do anything. When i push the power/up/down buttons at the same time i get a picture of a droid and it says power reset or unknown upload mode

whats adb? I'm a preschooler when it comes to anything computer/phone related

I was getting panic mode/upload when I was messing with eugenes kernals.

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I was getting panic mode/upload when I was messing with eugenes kernals.
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As was I, and that's the only time I've seen that screen.
OP, you're friend definitely did more than simply root your phone. Especially if you say he used Odin? There's no reason to use Odin to gain root.
I would recommend you Odin back to stock and start fresh.

is there any way i can do it without Odin? I'm out of town for a week and need my phone

Rom manager / clockworkmod. Just go to the app store (it's free) and download it. Flash the recovery and flash back to stock 2.1 eclair. It should fix it then when you get home just use the one click root method to root your phone. Check the vibrant bible in android dev. to do it, it's really easy to do yourself since it is literally, one click ^_^ Also for the rom of 2.1 I also recommend going to the vibrant bible for that as well. All you have to do is dl rom manager, put the 2.1 rom on the root of your sd (not external sd) then go into rom manager and install custom rom (pick the stock 2.1). It will wipe your data but your phone should be fixed and you can always dl back your apps and import contacts through your gmail account. Hope this helps.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740077
that's eugene's stock 2.1 for vibrant flashable through clockworkmod ^_^

Can't get Verizon update any longer

Hello all,
Been rambling around the forums in ninja mode trying to gain enough knowledge to not mess up my phone before trying to mod it but alas best laid plans....
Anyhoo I was working to put the Froyo leak on my phone and everything was good till I did a cwm wipe of the phone and wammo it had problems. I managed to use Odin to get it back to barebones stock, lost my high score in Angry Birds too dang it.
Now that I am back to this point I tried to run the Verizin updates and it downloads and goes into install mode on reboot and it dies at Updating Modem section. At that point I saw I was rooted so I removed that and tried again, no dice amigo. Did a factory wipe, nothing. Cleared the cache, fail again.
If it helps its trying to do a dh12 to di01 update. Got any ideas?

When you went to stock did you flash the stock kernel and stock recovery as well? I had to do this when I updated to dl09

Good question and yes I believe I did, I followed this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782204&highlight=return+stock thread to get the job done. Let me try it one more time.
Also I load the PIT file with each md5 correct?

Looks like I fixed it on the second time around. Not sure what I missed but the update went through. No worries. Might pay someone to hand hold my through getting DL30 on my phone cause even as an IT guy I'm missing something every time.

Strong thing is, once the DI01 update happens it actually doesn't find any other updates...wifi is off.

VZW pulled the DL09 update due to the e911 bug until it is fixed

Makes good sense. Sooo anyone wanna tutorialize me on how to de-crappify my phone? Its worth a donation from me.

You're on di01 right?
I would odin the dl09 package, then use cwm to flash super clean 2.2. Clean, debloated froyo goodness
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Sounds good. The problem lies in me somehow fudging up the process at some point and having to set my phone back to stock again.

Where did you see this?
"VZW pulled the DL09 update due to the e911 bug until it is fixed"
Have any sources on this one? I really would like to see them.
Not doubting you, I have just been rebooting and *228 for 3 days trying to get this update only to see this quote...

VZW sent a message to all Fascinate owners the other night acknowledging the bug and a fix being in the works. Why would they continue to push it out after that?
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Well...
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New EA update is being pushed out.
Verizon told me to go to a store as some phones will not accept OTA updates. Seems stupid and like a lie, but whatever...

Atst44 said:
"VZW pulled the DL09 update due to the e911 bug until it is fixed"
Have any sources on this one? I really would like to see them.
Not doubting you, I have just been rebooting and *228 for 3 days trying to get this update only to see this quote...
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He's right. Google the source if you need it. Please don't take this response as me being snarky, I don't mean it that way.

I think the biggest issue people are having is not being careful and following the directions perfectly.
I was new two days ago and did this with only one hiccup.
1. I followed the Beginner's thread in this forum to get me rooted. First pass with Odin failed as the one click code didn't recognize the phone. 2nd pas worked. Trick was to just turn on USB debugging and plug in phone, do not then click the mount notification. Leave that off as USB debugging was all that was needed.
2. I installed Mod Manager and Titanium backup right after. This was part of the main directions and Titanium (though not mentioned) allowed me to save all my specific apps that had important data, like my 100% completed Angry Birds.
3. I then followed the directions in the developer forum for the How To.. install DL30 for Froyo. This scared me at first because the CW recovery stalled when wiping data. I waited over 30 minutes before getting the courage to pull the battery and start over. Figured its only deleting user data, should be ok. It was and then it worked the 2nd time without fail. I did reboot in normal recovery, but running the update.zip put it back into CW.
4. After that, I rebooted numerous times, checked all stock apps, upgraded firmware in camera, and used Titanium to add back my apps I bought or downloaded as well as restored my bookmarks and memo notes.
In the end I've had no bugs/issues as others have reported. Only functionality not tested is bluetooth as I don't use it for anything.
I hope this helps and if you are walking through it all again, I would be glad to help specific questions based on my experience.
I was DL09 stock OTA at first. I'd recommend getting rooted and using Odin to get the stock DL09 from these forums flashed before you try to put DL30 on. As a developer myself, it just makes sense to always put on builds that are in order of each other. So DI01, then DL09, then DL30.

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superchunkwii, thanks for the feedback. When I booted into cwm recovery mode it hung too. I think my fatal mistake was I booted in regular recovery mode and did my wipe....sad. I should have just rebooted and went back in cwm like you did.
As far as freezing apps I did not know freezing angry birds would save its data. Boy was my wife is mad (she plays it the most).
I did everything else on cue so I will try again and see how she goes. IT CAN BE TAUGHT! As the genie says.
On another note I did download the EA28 update today, can I install the DL30 Rom or do I need to "downgrade" to DL09 to get this done? Anyone try?

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superchunkwii, thanks for the feedback. When I booted into cwm recovery mode it hung too. I think my fatal mistake was I booted in regular recovery mode and did my wipe....sad. I should have just rebooted and went back in cwm like you did.
As far as freezing apps I did not know freezing angry birds would save its data. Boy was my wife is mad (she plays it the most).
I did everything else on cue so I will try again and see how she goes. IT CAN BE TAUGHT! As the genie says.
On another note I did download the EA28 update today, can I install the DL30 Rom or do I need to "downgrade" to DL09 to get this done? Anyone try?
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1. Not freeze.. that makes it so app won't run. Backup with Titanium Backup is what you need I think.
2. What is EA28? I don't think the fascinate has had that build.

Just got an update EA28 any ideas what it does
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EA28 build is the update to fix the emrgency dialing bug in DL09. As I understand, it is otherwise the same as DL09. I am by no means an expert though.

EA28 build is the update to fix the emrgency dialing bug in DL09. As I understand, it is otherwise the same as DL09. I am by no means an expert though.
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Cool. Can anyone confirm this?

Help with a TB issue would be appreciated!

Hey guys, noob here and am kind of hung up...
I d/l TB from the Market some time ago, I used it maybe 2 or 3 times to go through and delete a few unwanted apps. I went through a little tough period where I accidentally deleted 'Google Talk', I found the apk's and fixed that whole issue; however it seems ever since that incident TB will not fire up (correctly). It is telling me it cannot get root access (though I KNOW my phone is rooted). When I goto Problems>Get Busy Box it seems to d/l, but then I get an Error at the top of my device stating that it failed and to see the website for more trouble shooting. I have un-installed TB, re-installed and still noooo luck.
Does anyone have any idea whats going on? Thanks in advance!

Open superuser, tap on TB and "forget " su access. Reboot. Reopen TB and grant su access again.

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Open superuser, tap on TB and "forget " su access. Reboot. Reopen TB and grant su access again.
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Oddly enough it doesn't show any Apps on the 'apps' tab in su?

Hmmmm... looks As if my phone may not be rooted any longer? I originally did it through z4root, and now that app isn't in the market.. am I missing something here?

Think it was that EA28 update that did all this. Trying to figure out how to manually root now.

Probably the easiest way to get back to a stock rooted image would be to download an odin image and install it that way. Or are you trying to just get root access back?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867648 - DI01
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956289 - EB01

The EA28 does remove root access. I tested it on my wife's Fascinate.

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Probably the easiest way to get back to a stock rooted image would be to download an odin image and install it that way. Or are you trying to just get root access back?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867648 - DI01
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956289 - EB01
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Seems weird man, I actually downloaded CWMRecovery_DJ05_DL09.tar.md5, flashed it via Odin....went to settings>>about phone>>and still shows I am running EA28...
Any idea what I may be doing wrong?
EDIT: Another thing I noticed is when i go into Boot Recovery (using vol down+up+power, wait till 2nd samsung logo, vol d...the text is blue, when I hit apply sd:update.zip it goes to red and says its VoodooLagFix at the top?? This was supposed to be an update.zip that got me rooted+busybox... I am getting alittle confused here lol

Awesome !! Got EB01, Froyo 2.2 with Super Clean 2.4... thanks a lot man. My first custom ROM ever haha

You will have to try out Super Clean 2.5! It is compiled of nearly 75% of EB16 source code. The 2.4 I have had some battery life issues. About 12-14 hours tops on a full charge. I am hoping that super clean 2.5 will help with the issue. It might be something to look into.

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You will have to try out Super Clean 2.5! It is compiled of nearly 75% of EB16 source code. The 2.4 I have had some battery life issues. About 12-14 hours tops on a full charge. I am hoping that super clean 2.5 will help with the issue. It might be something to look into.
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i will keep an eye out. Like stated this is all relatively new to me, but boy am I impressed with the speed opposed to my stock 2.1 eclair I was running just an hour ago! lol