So apparently the OTA from T-Mobile is supposed to reach everyone by the end of October. I may get it tomorrow, or I may get it October 31 - I don't know. Frankly, I don't want to wait till the later. Anyone know if its possible to get the official JI6 update from other sources like KIES or online? I realize many people have probably already provided it in the Android Development forum but I am looking for it from an official source, either directly from Samsung or T-Mobile.
Thanks!
Dev Forum ftw....
I too would like this.
DarkAgent said:
So apparently the OTA from T-Mobile is supposed to reach everyone by the end of October. I may get it tomorrow, or I may get it October 31 - I don't know. Frankly, I don't want to wait till the later. Anyone know if its possible to get the official JI6 update from other sources like KIES or online? I realize many people have probably already provided it in the Android Development forum but I am looking for it from an official source, either directly from Samsung or T-Mobile.
Thanks!
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Just move your clock for a week ahead and do "Check for upgrade"
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Dev Forum ftw....
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Reading ftw...
I am getting the feeling some people just read titles and want to give their 2 cents instead of reading the actual post >.>'
joedoe said:
Just move your clock for a week ahead and do "Check for upgrade"
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I can't tell if you are joking or if you are being serious LOL!
Anyway, I highly doubt that would work since the roll out is server side rather than client side.
joedoe said:
Just move your clock for a week ahead and do "Check for upgrade"
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This made my night
joedoe said:
Just move your clock for a week ahead and do "Check for upgrade"
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Haha...Witty! I'm trying it now for Gingerbread
can i flash this using odin ???
joedoe said:
Just move your clock for a week ahead and do "Check for upgrade"
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Haha,
Omg I have to try it!
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DarkAgent said:
So apparently the OTA from T-Mobile is supposed to reach everyone by the end of October. I may get it tomorrow, or I may get it October 31 - I don't know. Frankly, I don't want to wait till the later. Anyone know if its possible to get the official JI6 update from other sources like KIES or online? I realize many people have probably already provided it in the Android Development forum but I am looking for it from an official source, either directly from Samsung or T-Mobile.
Thanks!
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Your contradicting yourself, or at least not thinking it through. The OTA *IS* the official distribution method. Samsung KIES is NOT an official distribution method for North American phones. Hate it or like it as you see fit. The only way your going to get it directly is in an unofficial manner, which is the whole reason why JI6 has been made available in the dev forum since it leaked.
Your choices are either wait for the OTA, or flash the JI6 leak that is available.
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Your contradicting yourself, or at least not thinking it through. The OTA *IS* the official distribution method. Samsung KIES is NOT an official distribution method for North American phones. Hate it or like it as you see fit. The only way your going to get it directly is in an unofficial manner, which is the whole reason why JI6 has been made available in the dev forum since it leaked.
Your choices are either wait for the OTA, or flash the JI6 leak that is available.
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We can argue semantics all we want. The bottom line is still that I am looking for the update directly from Samsung or T-Mobile ("official" or not); preferably I would like to not have to wait until the OTA hits my phone which could be a while.
For now, your best bet is to install leaked JI6 until someone posts the official JI6 or until someone verifies both builds are same.
DarkAgent said:
We can argue semantics all we want. The bottom line is still that I am looking for the update directly from Samsung or T-Mobile ("official" or not); preferably I would like to not have to wait until the OTA hits my phone which could be a while.
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That's not going to happen. Either wait for the OTA or like I said, get it in the dev forum. OTA is the only official distribution method you're going to get.
Edit: Actually, you could wait a few weeks, maybe November/December and you might be able to buy a new phone with it.
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That's not going to happen. Either wait for the OTA or like I said, get it in the dev forum. OTA is the only official distribution method you're going to get.
Edit: Actually, you could wait a few weeks, maybe November/December and you might be able to buy a new phone with it.
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Lols ill have my OTA by then =P
I was hoping we could get it from KIES or T-Mobile would setup something like http://t-mobile.com/bbupgrade for Vibrant.
DarkAgent said:
We can argue semantics all we want. The bottom line is still that I am looking for the update directly from Samsung or T-Mobile ("official" or not); preferably I would like to not have to wait until the OTA hits my phone which could be a while.
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It's not a semantics argument. The official method is the OTA. There is no other official path.
Now, onto semantics. The leaked JI6 build was gathered unofficially from Samsung's official KIES app. It's been available for about a week. So, it was unofficially obtained from an official source. This is as official as a direct source is going to get.
What you "prefer" isn't really going to alter these truths.
joedoe said:
Just move your clock for a week ahead and do "Check for upgrade"
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I did this and used my phone to check the winning scores of the 2011 Super Bowl. Needless to say, I'll be retiring in 2011 Thanks for the tip!
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It's not a semantics argument. The official method is the OTA. There is no other official path.
Now, onto semantics. The leaked JI6 build was gathered unofficially from Samsung's official KIES app. It's been available for about a week. So, it was unofficially obtained from an official source. This is as official as a direct source is going to get.
What you "prefer" isn't really going to alter these truths.
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Did you seriously just tell me its not semantics, then go on to contradict yourself Pick a side, bro.
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RT @GalaxySsupport JI6 OTA now released for Vibrant! Watch for msg on phone letting y know the update is ready! Thanks for your patience! (@, ☆, #)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802240
This is from my thread.
rhcp0112345 said:
samsungtweets
RT @GalaxySsupport JI6 OTA now released for Vibrant! Watch for msg on phone letting y know the update is ready! Thanks for your patience! (@, ☆, #)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802240
This is from my thread.
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We know that already .
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According to TechCrunch. But I can't post links on XDA apparently, so you will have to go to techcrunch DOT com/2010/05/22/android-froyo-nexus-one/
Sorry
there is a link posted in general section
wow, will go the stock rom and see if there any update... thx !
liorra3 said:
wow, will go the stock rom and see if there any update... thx !
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u from the us?
To be or not to be?
hmmm funny how all the links are to ONE guy... would be lovely if it was the case but the odds of ONLY one set of images and ONE guy having the OTA is slightly concerning.
If he did... "go get a lottery ticket"
If he did not then i'll sit back and refresh for 3 weeks
*#*#checkin#*#*
come on Froyo it's 27 degrees celcius in the UK a great time to drop by and chill us all out!
please can anyone confirmed it
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u from the us?
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nop, but its free to try
U where you from then? Please tell us if there's any update
In fact reading into it more...
A reporter for TechCrunch website states he has had the OTA?
I'l put 2 and 2 together here and i know this smells very odd now indeed. Do not get your hopes up, and really do smell a clever ploy to attract some users.
Who says it was OTA anyway? surely guys like TechCrunch would be given a sniff anyway weeks ago?
Just my 2 cents.
When running for example Cyanogen, I have two questions someone perhapse can answer:
1) Where do I find the option to check for an OTA-update, cant find it in About in Settings?
2) Will I haveto install a stock rom to be able to do the OTA?
Tnx,
//P
israel, and there is on update to froyo here...
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israel, and there is on update to froyo here...
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Also from Israel (with CM5.0.6) but still no update I won't install it anyway, waiting for rooted version (so I can flash some Hebrew fonts)
Dude seriously? No joke?
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israel, and there is on update to froyo here...
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accept it and pull it, i can walk you through the whole thing...
i also have Cyanogen, do I have to go back to stock rom to get 2.2
1wayjonny said:
accept it and pull it, i can walk you through the whole thing...
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he most likely meant 'no'
A8000 said:
i also have Cyanogen, do I have to go back to stock rom to get 2.2
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Yes. It's an Update, not a replacement for your custom ROM. The only way you'll even get the option for an OTA update is if you flash your ROM back to stock and wait.
Or, wait for a few more hours for someone to release a rooted ROM, which is assuming the Techcrunch link is for real, which I doubt it is.
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he most likely meant 'no'
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Ah that makes more sense, damn typos!
im sure an update.zip will appear within 24 hours of the first hundred confirmed OTA's so don't fret
i bet it´s fake! and techcrunch gets some extra credits for additional clicks...
World Release! Android 2.2 FROYO on the Samsung Galaxy S. Tomorrow 12 o'clock'. AMSTERDAM
twitter.com/SamsungFirmware
At the look of this I suspect that getting 2.2 sent OTA for the Vibrant shouldn't be too far behind.
This is awesome, I heard the vibrant is supposed to get froyo early august. I am impressed with samsung, they are ready stepping up.
Do you think we would still get the update if we rooted the vibrant?
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Do you think we would still get the update if we rooted the vibrant?
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I'm pretty sure read somewhere on the forums that confirmed that even if you root it, you should still receive OTA's. However, might want to find someone that could confirm that. I'm about to go pick up my Vibrant, im so excited!
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Do you think we would still get the update if we rooted the vibrant?
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I don't see why rooting should stop you from getting the update.
If you have done more than just rooting, then I'm assuming you might have trouble getting the OTA update. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in.
EDIT: By "more than just rooting", I mean if you have installed a custom bootloader or a custom rom.
Cool beans!
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Do you think we would still get the update if we rooted the vibrant?
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Yeah, but if you install it, you will lose root. There will be a modified rom that's rooted VERY shortly after it is released though (Probably before many get the OTA update).
Wow, that was quick! Glad to see Samsung is following through with their promise and fast.
Hopefully the Vibrant will get a release in early August.
if this also includes a GPS fix, i'll be picking up a vibrant within the next week or two... after i pay AT&T my last payment on that contract. whoo!!
(first time poster, but i've been reading these forums non-stop since the release of the galaxy s phones)
Pardon my dyslexia but world release does that mean everyone? lol
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Pardon my dyslexia but world release does that mean everyone? lol
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Hope so! though t mobile will want to get their hands on it before we see an OTA, of course once a vibrant/captive compatible version hits the internet, we will see a flash ready in no time.
great news!
lol. saw this thread and looked at my twitter tab and the tweet was there waiting for me.
awesome. too bad this isn't for the vibrant. right? just the international?
Non OTA related
This is not official in any capacity. How is this related to OTA release when feed is hosted by samsung-firmware.webs ?
This is so awesome thanks for the info.
SAMSUNG BEAST VIBRANT ™ XDA APP
there should be no reason for those who rooted to not recieve an ota update. however, if you flashed a custom kernal/radio then those ota's might've been disabled.
Anyone noticed this?
http samsung-firmware.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/4360690-coming-soon-vibrant-captivate-
Looks like there is already a newer version firmware for vibrant. Mine is JFD. The latest on that page is JFE. Or, that's just a demo page...
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This is not official in any capacity. How is this related to OTA release when feed is hosted by samsung-firmware.webs ?
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Good point.
They do seem to have this screen shot on their front page. Don't know what to make of it.
http://samsung-firmware.webs.com/screenshot_16.png
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Good point.
They do seem to have this screen shot on their front page. Don't know what to make of it.
http://samsung-firmware.webs.com/screenshot_16.png
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There's also a disclaimer on the front page.
Note: All our firmwares are official Samsung Firmwares.
Everything you use here is on your own risk!
What we do is collect all firmwares and give support with our guides and forums.
So it looks like they have access to leaked firmwares or something.
More info:
http://samsung-firmware.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/4374375-hot-galaxy-s-android-2-2-
Will it happen?
Really........i don't care much anymore I'm already running 2.2 actually I wish it was already out so I could stop hearing about it but then it will just become about 2.3
Still flashing , thanks to odin
I haven't seen SamsungUSA officially state that 2.2 would appear in November for the US Galaxy S series yet.
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Will it happen?
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Yes, I do think we'll have Froyo by November.......2011.
MODs
please create an Update Status section and move all these threads over there.
Does it really matter? we have had froyo for quite awhile now and I am sure the custom roms we have available are better than the bloatware infested stock that we would get from any official release. I couldn't care less if sammy ever releases froyo at this point.
apparently we're getting the real deal today, nov 30th, and if not, tomarrow via kies. T-Mobile: Samsung Galaxy S getting FroYo
Froyo has already been around for the Vibrant, what is needed is the 2.2 kernel source so the devs can optimize that and work out the small bugs like the 3.5mm jack for phone calls in Froyo...
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apparently we're getting the real deal today, nov 30th, and if not, tomarrow via kies. T-Mobile: Samsung Galaxy S getting FroYo
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how come that is the only site that says this about the vibrant? i hope this is true
ok nevermind i found that same talk on another site
http://www.eurodroid.com/2010/11/t-...h-android-2-2-for-the-samsung-galaxy-s-today/
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apparently we're getting the real deal today, nov 30th, and if not, tomarrow via kies. T-Mobile: Samsung Galaxy S getting FroYo
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WTF are you taking about... That's for the Europe version
Gesh!
i lol'd. links to tmobile uk.
It's unreal how many people on this forum can't read! Wow.
We do not live in Europe, people!
k, jeese forgot those people existed in my excitement and overlooked that (minor) detail.
EDIT: but still..
Take this with a grain of salt, it's up to you whether you believe it or not but.
Adobe Website lists Fascinate Froyo update as "Coming Soon".
http://www.adobe.com/flashplatform/supported_devices/smartphones.html
It is a pretty well updated list with Galaxy Tab and G2 included in the mix.
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Nope november's over.
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It's unreal how many people on this forum can't read! Wow. We do not live in Europe, people!
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Even the people who couldn't read should have been able to look at the pictures in the linked article which clearly show the three button (instead of 4) i9000 Galaxy S device.
DUDE use the ****ing search or google or something and wise your ass up, these threads are getting stupid as hell opening every single day. IF you want froyo then FLASH IT, why do you think the stock one will be that good? it will have lag from the RFS system, no root, chances are the ones that are out now are just as good as sammys or better, and will only improve when the real one comes out.
t-Mobile UK already delayed the Release of Froyo to it's customers. No reason given, but It was supposed to be released via Kies yesterday and no one go it. So a few sources are saying it is/will be delayed yet again.
Samsung told me the other day on Twitter that, "it's coming soon" that same BS, and they actually told me they were "abandoning" the Galaxy S phones (after I said they were...). Then I asked about if we would actually really see it before the end of December and they assured me we would.
I call BS on anything they say anymore about updates, we won't see 2.2 (OFFICIALLY) from T-Mobile or Samsung by the end of this year.
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t-Mobile UK already delayed the Release of Froyo to it's customers. No reason given, but It was supposed to be released via Kies yesterday and no one go it. So a few sources are saying it is/will be delayed yet again.
Samsung told me the other day on Twitter that, "it's coming soon" that same BS, and they actually told me they were "abandoning" the Galaxy S phones (after I said they were...). Then I asked about if we would actually really see it before the end of December and they assured me we would.
I call BS on anything they say anymore about updates, we won't see 2.2 (OFFICIALLY) from T-Mobile or Samsung by the end of this year.
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What do you mean abandoning the galaxy s line? You have to provide proof or it didn't happen.
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DUDE use the ****ing search or google or something and wise your ass up, these threads are getting stupid as hell opening every single day. IF you want froyo then FLASH IT, why do you think the stock one will be that good? it will have lag from the RFS system, no root, chances are the ones that are out now are just as good as sammys or better, and will only improve when the real one comes out.
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Wow someone is all upset lol
Just spoke to Samsung Rep and was told we will get an update next week around the 10th and IT WILL BE FROYO. It will also be Over the Air (OTA) not Samsung Kies.
Here is the exact transcript:
Visitor: I heard there will be one on the 10th
Visitor: Is that true?
Sylvester: Yes, there will be an update, but we can not speculate the exact estimated time of arrival as this would to inaccurate information and confusion.
Sylvester: However you will get a notification on to your device as it is an over the air update.
Visitor: What will the update bring?
Sylvester: It will come with more features for the phone.
Visitor: Such as? FroYo?
Sylvester: Yes, it will be Froyo.
Visitor: Will I get the update this week or next week?
Sylvester: It should be available in the next week.
sweet, if true. Been waiting to root for this to come first.
Well. That's a relief. But only those on DI01 on the stock ROM are getting it...
Plus you will probably lose root.
In other words, if you like being unrooted, wait for a dev to repackage it.
this is confirmation of nothing....how many people have heard from this person and that person about dates....while it d be nice to be wrong on this....i think anyone with half a brain realizes it wont be froyo but dl09 or something comparable
http://erictric.com/2011/01/05/android-2-2-froyo-may-soon-hit-samsung-fascinate-and-continuum/
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thats just a regurgitation of the android central article that says an update is coming and its listed as mr2...which has been first dj05 then dl09 now something comparable
I've seen so many of these threads across the message boards. So many confirmed dates have come and gone.
Move along.. nothing to see here
Ill believe it when i see it because on andriod central they had a screenshot of the VZW and it said 1/10/11 Samsung Fascinate MR2 meaning maintenance release 2 aka DL09 or DJ05
who cares anyway we have both of those MR already and birdman and Jt are compiling GB
EDIT: I now have to retract this sarcasm because I also had it (supposedly) confirmed. We'll just have to wait and see.
Chuban7 said:
Ill believe it when i see it because on andriod central they had a screenshot of the VZW and it said 1/10/11 Samsung Fascinate MR2 meaning maintenance release 2 aka DL09 or DJ05
who cares anyway we have both of those MR already and birdman and Jt are compiling GB
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Can someone tell me why a MR has to be DJ05/DL09 and can't be Froyo? VZW has released MR updates for windows mobile devices to take them from WM6.1 to WM6.5 or similar jumps in the WM world, and they were classified as a maintenance release. Why can't Froyo be a MR update as well? Do I think the update will be Froyo, no, but I don't see why a MR can't be Froyo.
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I totally agree, Verizon labels ALL of there updates "MR."
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Can someone tell me why a MR has to be DJ05/DL09 and can't be Froyo? VZW has released MR updates for windows mobile devices to take them from WM6.1 to WM6.5 or similar jumps in the WM world, and they were classified as a maintenance release. Why can't Froyo be a MR update as well? Do I think the update will be Froyo, no, but I don't see why a MR can't be Froyo.
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*could* it be froyo? sure why not....chances of that? ridiculously small.
i think that everything we've seen has said mr2 was dj05...then it was dl09....it would stand to reason that something similar was still coming out
but who knows
i think it would be better for all of us if these speculation and "inside" information threads were stopped though
I thought i had froyo on my phone since i bought it and i was getting gingerbread on it......
I got on Samsung's website to chat with a rep just for ****s and giggles. Surprisingly, he also confirmed the update is Froyo. Here is our conversation ....
John: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Visitor: There is alot of buzz going around about an update for VZW Fascinate
Visitor: Will it be Froyo?
John: I understand that you want to know if Froyo be available for your phone, am I correct?
Visitor: I know you can't speculate, so I wanted to know if you had any concrete info
John: Yes, it is the Froyo update and it will fix all the issues.
John: This should become available in the next few days.
Visitor: Gotcha. You guys are definately confirming it is Froyo .... no speculation.
John: Yes.
Visitor: Thank you.
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I'd Be willing to bet that if you talked to another rep, you would get a different answer entirely.
Customer service for cell providers all suffer from severe cases of left-hand right-hand syndrome.
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I think where there is smoke there is fire. There has been so much going on lately from the false 2.2 webpage update and kies update, to the leaked update information and now the reps actually confirming dates. Leads me to believe there is a good chance it will be froyo.
I'm not confident in verizon's ability to keep a froyo leak from slipping out so I wouldn't hold my breath.
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I'd Be willing to bet that if you talked to another rep, you would get a different answer entirely.
Customer service for cell providers all suffer from severe cases of left-hand right-hand syndrome.
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Two reps have now been asked look at the first post and the post before yours. Two different reps. We are for sure getting FroYo. The reps used to say we can not speculate but now they are giving us an exact date. I am sure that Samsung does not want to screw this up again.
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"These are not the Droids you're looking for"...
Better question is whether it changes anything for the DEVs. Does it make it easier to develop Froyo/Gingerbread?
So I went to update my apps, and the app "Qik for Atrix" (which obviously is an app only for the Atrix) had an update available. When I went to look at the list of changes, the first one there was "Support for Gingerbread". Idk if the people who work on Qik are in contact with Motorola etc. but I just thought it was exciting that it is coming soon. I mean the "accepted" timeframe is July, right? And i thought I heard around the forums that updates are released on Tuesdays only? If that is the case, then there are only four Tuesdays in July, so yay!
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only four Tuesday
if this is the case, should I even bother rooting and installing GingerBlur? I mean besides the greatness of root.
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And i thought I heard around the forums that updates are released on Tuesdays only?
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Why is that? Do the mobile phone companies abide by the same rules as for new music and video releases?
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if this is the case, should I even bother rooting and installing GingerBlur? I mean besides the greatness of root.
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There is no point unless you want to stick with 2.2.2.
I am sure they are not in contact with Motorola, or know anything more then we do. Since they made an app for a specific phone, I am guessing the Dev owns one and keeps up with it on here just like us.
Checked for updates and I got upgrade to GB 4.5.47. Im on 2.3.4 so im gonna reflash sbf and try it
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So I went to update my apps, and the app "Qik for Atrix" (which obviously is an app only for the Atrix) had an update available. When I went to look at the list of changes, the first one there was "Support for Gingerbread". Idk if the people who work on Qik are in contact with Motorola etc. but I just thought it was exciting that it is coming soon. I mean the "accepted" timeframe is July, right? And i thought I heard around the forums that updates are released on Tuesdays only? If that is the case, then there are only four Tuesdays in July, so yay!
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Qik compatibility for Gingerbread simply means changing the Camera driver used for the FFC, because Gingerbread uses a standard driver (across any Android device) for an FFC, while Froyo lacks that. As a result, any Android phone on Froyo with an FFC uses a custom-made driver by that manufacturer (Moto, HTC, etc), which is why the original Qik didn't work for the Atrix initially.
An update to Qik has no (read: ZERO) connection to any impending release of GB for the Atrix.
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Checked for updates and I got upgrade to GB 4.5.47. Im on 2.3.4 so im gonna reflash sbf and try it
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1141871
benem3000 said:
Checked for updates and I got upgrade to GB 4.5.47. Im on 2.3.4 so im gonna reflash sbf and try it
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Please at least don't post your fail results after you realize you can't update in a new thread since there are already enough threads about this!
And BTW...........because of all the fail results already reported, yours will be an EPIC fail of Darwin proportions!
Op got his answer, thread closed.
Hansel and Gretel are busy looking for Gingerbread too.