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[Q] After Market Batteries suck with Android???

I've seen posts about it, but have yet to find a thread addressing it. I have been doing Forum and Google searches but have found nothing.
So what is the deal? I have an Andida battery that was great with Win Mo, but I'm convinced it causes problems in Android due to trial and error testing.
I start with a fresh build with the stock HTC battery and it rules. Then I run out of juice and switch to the after market and I lose data connection, wake up lag, and other wierdness.
I've also done fresh installs with a task29 and low level format of the sd card , using a fresh data image and if I do the same with the After Market and the Stock, the build used with the stock battery works and the same build with the After Market has problems right away.
Anyone having the same experience as me? Anyone know what the deal is?
I just purchased a spare OEM battery for 11 bucks off of ebay/USA seller. Hope it's the real deal.
***MOD PLEASE MOVE THIS TO THE HD2 ANDROID GENERAL DISCUSSION FORUM. MY BAD!***

I have found this same problem. I also have an andida battery that was awesome in winmo but sucks in android. I now use the stock battery first and the andida only when the stock dies. It used to be vice versa.

I have a andia battery and a extend battery , and both of them work fine
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tritran18518 said:
I have a andia battery and a extend battery , and both of them work fine
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And this is why I need to know what's up. Doesn't seem likely to me that a battery can make a difference, but it certainly does on my phone.

is it possible that its just a faulty battery?
Or a whole bunch of faulty cheap batteries that have poorly regulated power?
I have a 2400mAh "Replacement For Touch HD 2" battery that gives my phone a hump, I got it for 12 bucks off ebay and it works great in winmo and android... my phone suffers from android sleep of death with both oem and third party batteries that I have though I think this is a mem card issue though.

Extended battery

Several people have stated that some off-brand extended batteries works with WP7. For those of you who have them could you please link me an ebay or amazon page so I can buy a few?
I've tried the HTC authentic extended battery and the 3800ma battery from ebay and both don't even allow the phone to boot into windows, but work fine in android.
a battery 'case' would also work?

Dont look pretty
http://www.stuff.tv/news/phone/stuff/gadget-day-–-htc-hd2-battery-extender

or this
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-2400mAh-Ext...ccessories&hash=item43a28c4cae#ht_1648wt_1139

thanks. ordered

i dont know about anyone else but my device will not detect a battery larger than stock. I have 2 a slightly larger 1350 and a 2600 and both report as only ~1230

a friend at work at the 2600 and it did not say it was larger using battery tool, but so far as lasted 2 days and is still in the 80% range.

songokussm said:
Several people have stated that some off-brand extended batteries works with WP7. For those of you who have them could you please link me an ebay or amazon page so I can buy a few?
I've tried the HTC authentic extended battery and the 3800ma battery from ebay and both don't even allow the phone to boot into windows, but work fine in android.
a battery 'case' would also work?
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The HTC 2300mah battery boots fine on wp7

I have the HTC extended battery (with kickstand) as a backup to the slimmer stock one. But when it is low, WP7 doesn't recognise it and wont charge it. That is, I put the battery in, start WP7, plug in charger- the top LED alternates red/ green and it doesn't charge. Luckily I have dual boot with magldr and android and can charge it that way and then it runs fine on WP7. I remember in win6.5 there was an upgrade to handle the extended battery, does anybody know if I am damaging the battery using android or WP7?
Seems from other threads there are similar probs: this from jaze33
"there is no official EB support in this rom. i have a HTC EB and it will not work. I also have non-official EB from ebay and it works great. we will just have to see if the dev's put this into the kernel or something to support it in the future."
Thanks all

Extended Battery charging issue !
Hi Guys,
Anybody with a solution for this extended battery charging problem on HD2 with WP7 ??
Seems to pick up charge in Magdlr mode, but don't know if the phone will detect the correct battery capacity after charging ?
don't see a solution in sight for this lingering problem.
Any help ?

hi,
I've got the original htc extended battery with 2400mAh and with Android it works very fine,all work...
So i want to try WP7, but i don't want to miss this extended Battery, so works it with the DFT UltraFruit Rom or is there a wayne that it will work or is it a kernel/something other problem?
Thanks a lot

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Hi Verita5,
Which android ROM r u using ? Is it on an HD2 ? I would love to try out a ROM which recognises the 2300 extended battery and charges it normally to full capacity.
If it works, I would make my HD2 dual boot with Android & WP7. It would be at least better than my present method of charging my ext. Bat. only in Magldr mode, during which time my phone is useless. My WP7 ROM does not detect the original HTC ext. Bat.
Awaiting a reply.
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

Phone shuts off and freezes

2 days ago my phone (for the first time) just shut off and wouldn't turn back on even if I held the power button. It turned back on after plugging it into an outlet and holding the power button. The same thing happened today.
I'm using the stock battery (I just bought the Anker battery because I figure it's the battery causing issues) and I'm on Scott's CleanROM. I've had the phone since July (brand new) and haven't had any problems since.

How long have you been on this rom/release version? Got a new kernel or try any new kernel settings? Maybe try using the new battery for a few days to see if that's the problem?

xBeerdroiDx said:
How long have you been on this rom/release version? Got a new kernel or try any new kernel settings? Maybe try using the new battery for a few days to see if that's the problem?
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+1. Sound kernel related. Did you mess with any voltage settings?
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AT&T - S4 - CleanROM 1.5 is the exact ROM I've had since I installed it. I'm not too sure what "kernal" means so I didn't change any voltage settings or anything like that.

Br4nd3n said:
+1. Sound kernel related. Did you mess with any voltage settings?
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iTech02 said:
AT&T - S4 - CleanROM 1.5 is the exact ROM I've had since I installed it. I'm not too sure what "kernal" means so I didn't change any voltage settings or anything like that.
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OP, test that secondary battery out and see if that's your problem. keep us posted.
Br4nd3n, your device configuration is almost identical to mine. cheers.

Great setup isn't it? Cheers!
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iTech02 said:
2 days ago my phone (for the first time) just shut off and wouldn't turn back on even if I held the power button. It turned back on after plugging it into an outlet and holding the power button. The same thing happened today.
I'm using the stock battery (I just bought the Anker battery because I figure it's the battery causing issues) and I'm on Scott's CleanROM. I've had the phone since July (brand new) and haven't had any problems since.
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I had a problem like this too, running a different ROM, CM 10.1, a nightly - I removed my battery and fully charged it in a stand-alone charger and returned it to my device and haven't had an issue since.

FourPointedFreak said:
I had a problem like this too, running a different ROM, CM 10.1, a nightly - I removed my battery and fully charged it in a stand-alone charger and returned it to my device and haven't had an issue since.
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I think I just got unlucky with a defective OEM battery. The new battery comes in tomorrow so I'll stick it in there and let you guys know what happens.
Ironically, my phone has this issue when the battery discharges to around ~40%. It's fully charged right now so I want to test that theory as well.

iTech02 said:
I think I just got unlucky with a defective OEM battery. The new battery comes in tomorrow so I'll stick it in there and let you guys know what happens.
Ironically, my phone has this issue when the battery discharges to around ~40%. It's fully charged right now so I want to test that theory as well.
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Well whatever works for ya. I'd hate to be that one case of a bad battery. Let us know.

So that didn't fix anything since I got the same issue again today with the Anker battery. I have a feeling it's the "hover your hand over the phone" gesture since this happens when the phone is in my pocket pressing against my wallet.

How to change your battery capacity

(Must be rooted)
Use Root Explorer or Equivalent.
(Can adb or command pull/ push with line if your know how inside twrp or on pc)
DIRECTORY: /etc/floating_feature.xml
Open it and Scroll or search until you see the capacity String value ...
Change it to the MAH of your desired battery.
Disclaimer: Any edits being made to batteries, charge speeds, % values, etc , can cause fires,
Do these at your own risk.

What is the purpose of this?
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Theoretically, to make use of a larger capacity battery or else it'll show the same stock capacity regardless of it's real capacity.
Now I don't know how it is For S7/Edge or Samsung devices but I previously owned several HTC devices. The last I had was One S and it could accomodate the battery from One XL (same size but bigger capacity). Many have tried and replaced it but even the new capacity was shown correctly, phone wasn't using it at full. After researches it came out that, for effectively using a bigger capacity battery it was needed a new kernel compiled to make use of the new battery capacity.
My point is that, you might need that as well here and I really doubt that anyone can compile from source a kernel for Exynos that can contain such changes as I know that sources are proprietary not open. You might fit a bigger capacity battery but it could be that you won't benefit from it's increased size
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I agree
Rapier said:
Theoretically, to make use of a larger capacity battery or else it'll show the same stock capacity regardless of it's real capacity.
Now I don't know how it is For S7/Edge or Samsung devices but I previously owned several HTC devices. The last I had was One S and it could accomodate the battery from One XL (same size but bigger capacity). Many have tried and replaced it but even the new capacity was shown correctly, phone wasn't using it at full. After researches it came out that, for effectively using a bigger capacity battery it was needed a new kernel compiled to make use of the new battery capacity.
My point is that, you might need that as well here and I really doubt that anyone can compile from source a kernel for Exynos that can contain such changes as I know that sources are proprietary not open. You might fit a bigger capacity battery but it could be that you won't benefit from it's increased size
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There are reference files in the kernel ...
They reference battery capacity...
They are based off of a capacity % value
Basically an of/if command ... so in theory...
(Update: the theory was correct)
And a framework.res edit did suffice.
The file inside of framework-res res/xml/power_profile.xml
referenced a 3600mah battery ...
And the purpose of this is of course...
an aftermarket , fully synced , and properly programmed battery @ larger capacity 4200mah
To track all stats natively in any android rom

I use my device pretty heavy with it....
Background youtube, pandora, games, etc...
Stock S7 edge kernel/boot.img , modified build.prop (TeKHd Rom)
Also calibrated battery after changing the capacity values
battery life report...

Yamaha169 said:
I use my device pretty heavy with this 4200 mah...
Background youtube, pandora, games, etc...
Stock S7 edge kernel/boot.img , modified build.prop (TeKHd Rom)
Also calibrated battery after changing the capacity values
But heres a battery life report...
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omg how the hell did you manage to change for a bigger battery? can you explain? how and which one you bought? any links?

Vivacity said:
how and which one you bought?
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http://m.ebay.com/itm/4200mAh-High-Capacity-Gold-Replacement-Battery-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S7-Edge-NEW-/322221470195?hash=item4b05e571f3:g:jxsAAOSw9NdXqR3o

Yamaha169 said:
The guide to do so is explain in the images/ guide earlier in these pages...
The link to buy a battery like mine is
http://m.ebay.com/itm/4200mAh-High-...470195?hash=item4b05e571f3:g:jxsAAOSw9NdXqR3o
You will also need tools to do so... (watch youtube for a guide on the hardware change)
Once you have your battery installed... you need to be rooted to make the edits... there are two references you need to change (in images i posted)
After the edits... run your battery 99% dead... do a calibration (apk on app store can do this)
Then let it die.. charge it to 100% while the device is off
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But can you really trust a 4200mah for 15 dollars?

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anaya1213 said:
But can you really trust a 4200mah for 15 dollars?
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This is my second time purchasing the same aftermarket battery... first time I installed it into a G928A (s6 edge plus)
Now ive installed it in this device... ive gone several months without seeing charge/discharge loss...
But heres the next question... say... you go through 2 batteries a year... 15$ each....
Would that not be worth the extra phone on time anyways?

Yamaha169 said:
This is my second time purchasing the same aftermarket battery... first time I installed it into a G928A (s6 edge plus)
Now ive installed it in this device... ive gone several months without seeing charge/discharge loss...
But heres the next question... say... you go through 2 batteries a year... 15$ each....
Would that not be worth the extra phone on time anyways?
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Fair enough, but how do you really know it's 4200mah instead of the regular 3600mah?

After the Note 7 fiasco, people tend to be more careful about aftermarket batteries.
My question regarding this modification ist: Is the phone still waterproof after opening the case?
i guess no...

Eezay said:
After the Note 7 fiasco, people tend to be more careful about aftermarket batteries.
My question regarding this modification ist: Is the phone still waterproof after opening the case?
i guess no...
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I would guess no also, as the glue sealing everything together is disturbed

Eezay said:
After the Note 7 fiasco, people tend to be more careful about aftermarket batteries.
My question regarding this modification ist: Is the phone still waterproof after opening the case?
i guess no...
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Any battery lithium... copper core... can overheat and cause what happened to the 7 line...
And this device claims to be water "resistant" ... but people were testing new units and ruining cameras... so...
I went with a ghostek atomic 2.0 case ...

Agreed... no matter how good you cut the adhesive
ingram10 said:
I would guess no also, as the glue sealing everything together is disturbed
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They do make the adheasive with backglass replacement... but im content with my device ...
Longer batter... no overheating issues (2nd phone using them)
After doing the edits and the battery swap with the battery sync... big gains..
I Would Do this Experiment Again

Update...
Batterylife update...

Yamaha169 said:
The guide to do so is explain in the images/ guide earlier in these pages...
The link to buy a battery like mine is
http://m.ebay.com/itm/4200mAh-High-...470195?hash=item4b05e571f3:g:jxsAAOSw9NdXqR3o
You will also need tools to do so... (watch youtube for a guide on the hardware change)
Once you have your battery installed... you need to be rooted to make the edits... there are two references you need to change (in images i posted)
After the edits... run your battery 99% dead... do a calibration (apk on app store can do this)
Then let it die.. charge it to 100% while the device is off
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Did you even found bigger aftermarket batteries? And did you ever tried to test the battery and his capacity before implementing them? I often have the feeling they are faking the written numbers on it

twinko said:
Did you even found bigger aftermarket batteries? And did you ever tried to test the battery and his capacity before implementing them? I often have the feeling they are faking their values.
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you can break out ohms law and calculate power
( find something that runs off the same voltage , and run the tests yourself for discharge rate @ hours )

Yamaha169 said:
Well, to me... thats arguing a moot point...
Thats like asking me how i know im getting a gallon of gas at the pump.
But... the evidence is in the calculation of the user ... because there are FAR too many variables ...
There are applications that track power loss by MAH (mili-amp hour) if you use over the stock MAH rating... it would have a larger storage capacity.
Or you can break out ohms law and calculate power , disect this battery and beat your head against a post ..
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im sorry my english isn't that good but i think the capacity of this battery is not related to the user nor there are many variables.
Probably i didnt used the right words but what i was asking for is for example:
Connect the battery to a constant current load and measure the time it takes to discharge the battery to a certain voltage.
Capacity in Ah = Current in Amperes * Time in hours​
that would give a good overview of the real capacity without using a fishy app or harassing a post

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Yamaha169 said:
If it comes down to having to buy another one... then yea.. ill run that test ..
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sounds great and lets see how long your battery needs to be replaced. really interested to do the same.

I9195 AfterMarket (Qoltec) 2600 mAh Battery problem

Hello, my s4 mini is shutting down still having a lot of battery. Like when i turn it back on it still has 74%, more or less depends when it shuts down. The battery is new.
I think it might be a software glitch associated with a bigger battery upgrade that my phone can't figure out.
Does anyone know how to deal with this problem? :angel:

Serqk4 said:
Hello, my s4 mini is shutting down still having a lot of battery. Like when i turn it back on it still has 74%, more or less depends when it shuts down. The battery is new.
I think it might be a software glitch associated with a bigger battery upgrade that my phone can't figure out.
Does anyone know how to deal with this problem? :angel:
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I think the kernel needs to be modified, though not sure if newer custom kernels support this nowadays as I have never used an extender battery.

IronRoo said:
I think the kernel needs to be modified, though not sure if newer custom kernels support this nowadays as I have never used an extender battery.
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I thought about the kernel too, but i couldn't find any related to battery expansions.

just a hint
sorry i cant provide detailed links or such. though i can confirm the rom has to be modified. there are some topics buried in this forum here. you have to dig. i decided to not use non-standard batteries on the serranoltexx because of the fuzz about it to get it working...

Tom Mix said:
sorry i cant provide detailed links or such. though i can confirm the rom has to be modified. there are some topics buried in this forum here. you have to dig. i decided to not use non-standard batteries on the serranoltexx because of the fuzz about it to get it working...
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I remember there were some topics about this, but there were only kernels for the stock kitkat version i think. I am using the official lineage 14.1 version and i wish i could still use this rom with the new expanded battery and not having to go stock for it.

stock and extended battery...
is there any evidence that the stock-rom/kernel is supporting extended batteries?

Tom Mix said:
is there any evidence that the stock-rom/kernel is supporting extended batteries?
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I couldn't find any, but i'm a bit pissed that extended batteries even exist for this phone if the phone's software is limited for the stock battery's mAh.

well...
indeed! where is light, there is darkness... imho 95% of the customers buying these batteries dont even know about the hardcoded data of battery inside the kernel... this is weird isnt it?