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Hey,
I'm on T-Mobile right now and I have the n900. I'm thinking of moving to Sprint and getting the EVO this friday.
I've been lurking for a couple of weeks and I haven't really found a post with rational complaints about the phone. So I figured I'd ask EVO owners what the main issues are with the phone.
Battery life for instance, the n900 has pretty awful battery life but I've been able to make it work. I can get it through a 9-3/4 shift with 3G always connected. How does the EVO compare? I heard the Droid X might be even better but that's a no go for me.
I want to use the EVO as a primary phone and I'll do my mobile browsing and all that facebook/twitter stuff on it. I compared the n900 browser and the Android browser at the sprint store and I was damn impressed. It was a lot faster and it wasn't even on 4G.
Sorry for the long post. Bear with me, I'm a tad excited.

I love the EVO, its probably one of the best phones i ever owned. The battery is a bit of a problem, but then again your running a powerful phone. I would recommend that you root the phone and add a rom, preferably Damage Control, the battery runs amazing with the rom. Also, you can fix the 30 fps problem it has with a simple signed file.
Other than that the phone is amazing, it actually runs really fast on 3g, i havent tried 4g yet but 3g on this phone runs faster than other phones. The camera is just truly amazing on it, 8 megapixels and great video, 720p. I would recommend this phone.
Another option is to wait a little and try out the new phone by samsung, i cant remember the name at the moment, but that is another great phone coming to sprint.

I really don't like the look of the Epic 4G. Sprint has that 30 day return thing, right?
What is the 30 fps thing?
Also, I have been wondering if I should root it or not. I really don't like playing around with my primary phone, I haven't even overclocked my n900 yet. Is rooting something the average user would do?

nosa101 said:
I really don't like the look of the Epic 4G. Sprint has that 30 day return thing, right?
What is the 30 fps thing?
Also, I have been wondering if I should root it or not. I really don't like playing around with my primary phone, I haven't even overclocked my n900 yet. Is rooting something the average user would do?
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there is a known issue of stock evos being maxed out at 30 frames per second. the devs here have been working hard to remove that cap and have progressed in that quest very well just make sure when u get ur phone u check the hardware and panel to know what kernel to flash to get better fps (only way i know of the checking the panel is by rooting. not sure if u can do it without). awesome thing about android is that its completely customizable. as said by ruben8448, u can add a custom rom to spice up ur UI and also some come with kernels to help out with battery drain. they've released the source for the evo so there is gonna be alot of good things coming in regards to custom roms. u think the evo/android os is fast? wait for froyo. its a complete overhaul of the OS and speeds will increase 3-5 times faster. once u go android, u really wont wanna swap to anything else the options are just too endless

Is the headphone jack like the iPhone/iPod one?
I couldn't use my ipod earphones with my n900. The mic doesn't work too well with nokias

I figured I'd chime in here,I've had my Evo since the Friday after launch and love it.Battery drain was a bit of an issue before the updated radios came out but I was able to pick up 2 spares and a charger on Ebay for around 10 bucks.Since they updated the readios I'm generally getting thru my 10 hr day with about 50% battery remaining with what I would consider moderate use(total of an hour or so of web browsing,checking and replying to emails several times a day and a hand ful of voicecalls).I have rooted and its really been made quite easy to do now.I'm in total agreement with thgoob,once you've had an android you'll never go back

Another thing, the 30 fps issue affects only game graphics for the most part, right?

I agree with you on the 3G speed, while waiting for food last night, I loaded up a couple websites and was astonished at how fast they would load. Just purchased my EVO on monday, switched from a 3g iPhone, So far So good.

I'm not a gamer, and 30 fps is a non-issue - I really don't get all the whining on this issue. Coming from WinMo, cutting & pasting with Android is a pain. I don't see a good solution yet for editing spreadsheets. Can't use Skype with Android. Battery life is OK - you can get through the day with moderate use without changing the stock software. Screen looks great, fun to use.

i've not noticed any issues with the 30fps cap. perhaps i will noticed a difference if CM6 incorporates a change. but for me, its a non-issue.
i'm more looking forward to see if they can activate the FM Transceiver.
battery life requires that you compromise with your phone. some ROMs are better at battery life than others. I personally prefer the FRESH ROMs. stable and solid. the 4G is turned off most of the time because i live right along the edge of the coverage lines...so i chew through the battery in an attempt to stay connected as i commute and go up the elevator. when i need it, i turn it on (thank you QuickDesk) and away i go. but to be honest, the 3g is fast enough for most of what i do. the one big advantage of having 4g on is that my meebo does not disconnect if i take a phone call. if i'm 4g is off, a phone call will disconnect meebo. again not a 'OMG issue', but i do look forward to stronger 4g coverage.
however, with cyanogen about to release CM6 for the EVO, i will be jumping over play with that. keep in mind that CM6 is Android 2.2 Froyo (not the current EVO OS of Android 2.1).
oh...here is a good battery related thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990

Battery life will always be an issue especially with a phone as powerful as the EVO and a screen this big. However, like posted earlier, rooting opens up big improvements for battery life and performance. Android is not a great OS for productivity. That's what Blackberrys and WM are for. The fps fix does improve scrolling and video recording in my opinion. Also, I recently switched from T Mobile after 9 years of service and Sprint's data coverage and speed are WAY better. If you like a physical keyboard get a moment or wait for the epic. Otherwise, go with the EVO.
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DrawnToScale said:
I'm not a gamer, and 30 fps is a non-issue - I really don't get all the whining on this issue. Coming from WinMo, cutting & pasting with Android is a pain. I don't see a good solution yet for editing spreadsheets. Can't use Skype with Android.
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How does the cutting and pasting work? I didn't think about trying that at the store
There is no android skype client?

How do close apps on the EVO? How do you switch between active apps?

All i need is a little convincing...

Hey guys. Im new to the forum, I've been over at M3 with my Motorola Cliq. I have a full upgrade available to me, and right now im considering the Vibrant since my fiance just got the captivate and its pretty sexy.
The only problem is, I dont know anyone with a vibrant, so instead of googling for bonehead reviews, i figured id post here and get opinions from people who are actually involved with their phones (and i will most likely root it). So my main question is, why should I get this phone instead of waiting for the G2 or the MyTouch HD? What are its main downfalls? Also, how is root on this phone? Hows the tethering, overclocking/underclocking? It looks like theres plenty of ROM support. Also, after briefly skimming through these forums, I'm seeing a lot of stuff on a "lag fix". What lag are you referring to?
So I welcome your personal opinions, good or bad, i appreciate it. Thanks.
PS - Cosmetically I must admit I'm not impressed. The IPhone-like body repelled me at first, and it really does feel like it may be TOO light. But if the good outweighs the bad, im sure i can get used to these things.

best screen on the market
hummingbird processor is superior to snapdragons
it's thin and light, barely noticeable in your pocket
super easy to root, super easy to tether without apps (instructions for OSX)
major downfalls include waiting on samsung's lackluster support and some users are experiencing GPS issues
i personally thought my vibrant was still more responsive on 2.1 than an EVO i was playing around with on 2.2. i can't wait until this phone gets froyo, it should fly!

lolcopter said:
best screen on the market
hummingbird processor is superior to snapdragons
it's thin and light, barely noticeable in your pocket
super easy to root, super easy to tether without apps (instructions for OSX)
major downfalls include waiting on samsung's lackluster support and some users are experiencing GPS issues
i personally thought my vibrant was still more responsive on 2.1 than an EVO i was playing around with on 2.2. i can't wait until this phone gets froyo, it should fly!
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Thanks for your input. Well, I'm pretty used to horrible customer loyalty, having had to deal with Motorola for the past 10 months.
Thin and light: I must say, it feels like a toddler could snap it in half. That is one of my main concerns.

Hardware is cool firmware blows. If gps worked i would buy again

98classic said:
Hardware is cool firmware blows. If gps worked i would buy again
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Firmware may blow, but arent there ROMs out there that improve it?

Vibrant all the way!!!!! one of the best phone's out there!!!!!!!!

"Vibrant" screen, memory, speed, processor, thin phone, NO SLIDing KEYWORK, trackpad and touchscreen don't make senses to me... So vibrant all the way. For rooting i used "one click rooting" and lag fix i used Ryan's Lag fix, and to fix the GPS i used "vibrant-JI2-GPS.zip" (room manager needed)

TopShelf10 said:
Firmware may blow, but aren't there ROMs out there that improve it?
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Yes. I'm using Bionix's mods & he's got the GPS & all that other stuff fixed in his ROM. As long as you use a custom ROM it's all good.

I was disappointed with the stock firmware, and had started regretting my purchase. Then I rooted the phone and applied the bionix ROM, and now I'm loving my phone.
The thing is, Samsung takes a long while to support upgrades to Android, so if that's a problem, you may want to go HTC G2. Personally, I don't like the slideout keyboard, because they invariably feel more flimsy and prone to break than the candybar style of phone.
The GPS has been a problem for many people, myself included. Samsung has acknowledged the problem and is reportedly working on a fix. I can tell you that the bionix rom, like several others, incorporates a fix that has made it workable for me.
Another issue for many of us is the lack of a front-facing camera. Another poster has found the hardware for it online for $17 US, and I hear that one of the developers may be working on the software.
Overall the phone, once a custom rom is in place, is snappy and a good performer. After flashing the rom, my only real complaint has been the poor T-Mobile coverage, especially in my home. There is a recent rumor that T-Mobile is going to enable UMA (cell phone calls over wifi) for recent Android phones. That would pretty much finish off any of my complaints...
Hope this helps

I have not owned any other smart phones before I purchased this Vibrant. That being said, I absolutely love this phone. The only issues I have had with it is the GPS problem (takes forever to lock on and loses signal randomly than can't find a lock again for quite some time) and the "Lag". For clarification, the "Lag" is a very minor issue that affects only some phones, and is only noticed by the picky users IMO. Basically, you click on something and the phone "lags" out every now and than for maybe 1 second.
Now it needs to be stated that not all Vibrants are experiencing these issues. My wife has a Vibrant as well and has not noticed any major issues with her GPS, while I have on mine.
However, if you have no qualms with modding your device, the two major issues this phone has can easily be fixed. Rooting couldn't be simpler with the One Click Root (You install it on your computer, attach your phone, and click a button, than follow 3 easy steps on your phone). There are One Click Lag fixes that are just as easy (Which can be downloaded from the market). I have used it and it without issue. The GPS can be fixed by either flashing one of the multiple fixes out there, or simply installing a custom ROM from Bionix, or Eugene. (I am currently using Eugenes Frankin-Twiz and my GPS locks on in about 20 seconds, and hasn't lost signal once.)
That being said, I have heard that a JI5 update for our device is being rolled out pretty much as I speak via KIES. Don't know what that update fixes, but from what little I have read, people that had GPS issues are no longer having them after updating. I just backed up my current ROM and will likely be flashing the update shortly to test it out.
Hope this helps in your decision.

IDtheTarget said:
Another issue for many of us is the lack of a front-facing camera. Another poster has found the hardware for it online for $17 US, and I hear that one of the developers may be working on the software.
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WHAT??? i though it was impossible... do u have a link of this thread, i been looking for this bad not luck. Thanks

Dragoth12 said:
For clarification, the "Lag" is a very minor issue that affects only some phones, and is only noticed by the picky users IMO. Basically, you click on something and the phone "lags" out every now and than for maybe 1 second.
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You wouldn't say that if you used an app that hits the database hard.
Newsrob for example, an excellent google reader app. It's SLOW on a stock vibrant. Apply any of the lag fixes, and it FLIES.
For many apps, I would actually agree that it's nit-picky. However, Samsung F-ed up by trying to force their stupid proprietary filesystem on all of us when standard ones perform significantly better. There's no good reason to cripple this excellent hardware with crap software when free, open source software that is already in the Linux kernel Android is based on is so much better.

Thanks guys. Im surprised these threads dont have a "thank" button

i do regret jumping the gun on getting the vibrant, because i'm a huge fan of physical keyboards, and the g2 looks to have a pretty decent one. with that said, that is the only advantage the g2 has.
vibrant's pros-
display. i really don't think we'll see another phone that can match this phone's screen for a good while.
tv out. loading movies up on my phone and plugging them into the tv is fantastic!
gpu. everytime i check out some market games, the general comment concensus shows that the galaxy s phones never really have an issue running any games. the ps1 emulator running flawless is pretty much all the proof you need.
dev support. coming from the g1 with cyanogenmod, i was kinda worried that we wouldn't have any decent devs working on this thing, but my worries were unfounded. the user sombionix has made a ROM on his own (as far as i know) that has made this phone into the powerhouse it should be. the battery life is worlds better, it runs like i expected it to run when i first got it, and the list goes on. there's also a handful of other users whipping up some pretty decent themes and mods for us.
that's all i can think of at the moment. my personal cons with the phone are no led notification, no keyboard, and certain elements of touchwiz. i really wanna like tw, but there are some features that should be able to be changed or completely disabled.
so it's really up to you. just know (as i learned) that once you buy a phone you really want, there's gonna be 5 more just around the corner that you'll really want too. so just do some research, weigh the pros and cons, and go from there. luckily for us consumers, we've reached the point where there's nothing but good **** coming out, so let's reap the benefits.

I've noticed alot of Devs are moving towards the Vibrant, that says it all. Yes there are minor issues but fixes are already present and official fixes are on the way. Plus when we get Froyo, this baby will be on steroids. Get it! I hear that Walmart is selling it for $99. That should seal the deal for you.

ttabbal said:
I would actually agree that it's nit-picky.
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Im actually one of those picky users that you guys are referring to ....processor speed is number one on my list of things that i want out of a smartphonee, thats why i was concerned about this issue, but i hear nothing but positive results from these "lag fixes" so i dont think its enough to affect my decision. heres my list, in order, of important things in a phone for me:
1. Processor - 1gh hummingbird, which can be overclocked/underclocked....+1
2. Storage/Memory - this phone has pllllenty....+2
3. RAM - from what i gather, this phone is up to par, no more no less than the average Android smartphone....0
4. Modding abilities - The developer support for this phone seems very good, with a decent amount of ROMs to choose from that offer your basic root features, and software improvements +1
5. Display - no need to explain....+2
6. Keyboard - Lacks physical keyboard....-1
7. Design - IPhone look is too unoriginal and basic (not looking foward to people asking "derr, is that an iphone??"), phone seems way too prone to damage with being as light as a feather....-2
8. Firmware - I can't grade it, cause it's not something you can judge on paper, but its last on the list because ROMs usually address any issues....0
Well, based on my horrible, makeshift, totally irrelevant grading system...as a non-user, this phone gets a +3.
The only reason im dissecting and trying to pick all of your brains is because, 2yrs is a long time to commit to a phone, and like christpuncher said it will most likely be behind the pack within 6months, and i really want to make sure this phone will put up the longest fight possible.
Android 3.0 should be released around the New Year, whats the likelihood the Vibrant will see that?

huasamaya said:
WHAT??? i though it was impossible... do u have a link of this thread, i been looking for this bad not luck. Thanks
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Here ya go ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770854

More important then specs and what everyone else thinks in a biased Vibrant forum is what do you want and need. I've owned the MyTouch (1rst Gen) HTC G1 and iPhone (jailbroken), HTC Touch Pro II and Vibrant on T-Mobile. And have used the MyTouch Slide for a few days. I don't think you can compare these phones apples to apples.
At least in my expeirence and view, the MyTouch phones are more along the lines of messaging/social phone. It's outta your way when your not using it (small) and feels more like an on the go phone. In contrast my Vibrant feels more like a premier and capable phone. It's more of a multimedia targeted phone and boasts a stronger cpu and better display. The G2 will have a hardware keyboard and if you've used the Touch Pro II's keyboard (best in market IMO) then you'll have an idea how great HTC's hardware keyboards can be. I miss that keyboard but have grown to live without it on my Vibrant. The G2 from what I've read wont carry the huge specs (800mhz cpu?) of the Vibrant but then again it's not targeted at the same market. I see the G1 and G2 as the do everything good phone.
My best advice is to wait till the G2 comes out and head down to a Tmobile store and play with them. I was set on buying the MyTouch Slide when I headed down to the store and check out the Vibrant b/c of the rave reviews. After holding it in my hands and playing with it, I was amazed but still was going to get the MyTouch Slide. Then I compared price, specs, and features and the Vibrant in my case was a steal after I headed to Walmart where I got it for $150. The MyTouch Slide was selling for $179 at Tmobile.
Anyhow, I would personally purchase the Vibrant again over the MyTouch and I would only want the G2 because it adheres to Android rules more so then Samsung does (filesystem and stock apps).

watcher64 said:
Here ya go ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770854
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PLOP!!! i can't believe it!!! i hope they can make it work!!

TopShelf10 said:
Android 3.0 should be released around the New Year, whats the likelihood the Vibrant will see that?
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If I had to take a shot in the dark I'd say the Vibrant will NOT be seeing 3.0, but that is 100% speculation on my part. I'd imagine the G2 will get 3.0 and probably some updates further than that. That said, the dev support for the Vibrant is outstanding. At the moment I'm rockin' Eugene373's Frankin Twiz and Voodoo lagfix. I'd be willing to bet even if we don't get an "official" 3.0 update that we'll still see it on our Vibrants in due time.

(Q) Need Some Feedback From Current Epic Owners

Hey guys,
I was an Evo owner over the last 7 months and have jumped ship to join the Epic 4G world. What I wanted to know is as far as reliability, have you guys experienced or heard of any issues both to rooted and stock Epics? If so, what seems to trigger these problems. I ask because I had been through a big problem with my EVOs that turned out to be a pretty common issue. Apparently, a lot of EVOs seem to like rebooting on their own at random times throughout the day. It usually occurred during phone calls or while using applications that use up a lot of juice. To me, it seemed as though it was due to an overheating motherboard caused by the large LCD screen that creates more heat and uses more power than AMOLED technology. So, I finally got sick of having to be afraid of using my phone and decided it wasn't worth the hassle. I have heard a lot of good things regarding the Galaxy S line as far as hardware reliability even though the knock on them is the heavy use of cheap materials. So, I wanted to hear it first-hand from the owners themselves. Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance and looking forward to pimping out my new Epic!

Vipermuscle83 said:
Hey guys,
I was an Evo owner over the last 7 months and have jumped ship to join the Epic 4G world. What I wanted to know is as far as reliability, have you guys experienced or heard of any issues both to rooted and stock Epics? If so, what seems to trigger these problems. I ask because I had been through a big problem with my EVOs that turned out to be a pretty common issue. Apparently, a lot of EVOs seem to like rebooting on their own at random times throughout the day. It usually occurred during phone calls or while using applications that use up a lot of juice. To me, it seemed as though it was due to an overheating motherboard caused by the large LCD screen that creates more heat and uses more power than AMOLED technology. So, I finally got sick of having to be afraid of using my phone and decided it wasn't worth the hassle. I have heard a lot of good things regarding the Galaxy S line as far as hardware reliability even though the knock on them is the heavy use of cheap materials. So, I wanted to hear it first-hand from the owners themselves. Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance and looking forward to pimping out my new Epic!
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The knock on the Galaxy S line is not the use of cheap materials, its actually people complaining that its body if fully made of plastic...but people group that up to say that is poor build quality..which it is not..a lot of the component inside the Galaxy S are manufactured by Samsung themselves, and these components are used in varies devices rom EVO, to iphone to etc...
As far as build quality it is actually superior if you look at a teardown video..but as stated..people "group up" poor build quality to be associated with having a plastic body..while plastic may not be people's first choice it is quite durable if not more durable then an EVO...

Well first off i have to say that the epic is the coolest phone i have ever seen and used. when i bought mine it was toss up over the epic or the evo. I hate touch screens i really do. so the fact that the epic had a keyboard and the evo didnt was the selling factor for me. my uncle has an evo. now both phone are great phones but in my opinion the epics screen is so much better. the color and clarity is alot better. i like everything on the epic better than the evo with one exception. the gps on the epic is pure crap. with 2.2 and the skyfire browser, web browsing on the epic is just the same as browsing from a netbook, only smaller. so yeah my only complaint is i wish the gps worked. on 2.1 it works only sometimes and on 2.2 it doesent work at all.

zombiematt said:
Well first off i have to say that the epic is the coolest phone i have ever seen and used. when i bought mine it was toss up over the epic or the evo. I hate touch screens i really do. so the fact that the epic had a keyboard and the evo didnt was the selling factor for me. my uncle has an evo. now both phone are great phones but in my opinion the epics screen is so much better. the color and clarity is alot better. i like everything on the epic better than the evo with one exception. the gps on the epic is pure crap. with 2.2 and the skyfire browser, web browsing on the epic is just the same as browsing from a netbook, only smaller. so yeah my only complaint is i wish the gps worked. on 2.1 it works only sometimes and on 2.2 it doesent work at all.
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I can definitely relate with your screen comparison. Before the EVO, I had the Nexus One with T-Mobile (Still my favorite phone EVER) and the AMOLED screen is LIGHTYEARS ahead of the crap LCDs.
Now, about that GPS problem...I've heard a little bit about the GPS problems concerning the Epic. Are there any fixes out for it whether through OTA updates or developers? If so, how well does the GPS work with the fix? I'm not too concerned with the GPS problems just because it's a software flaw that can be fixed but I would think that after the Epic has been out now for over 3 1/2 months, they would have figured a way to fix that problem already.

gTen said:
The knock on the Galaxy S line is not the use of cheap materials, its actually people complaining that its body if fully made of plastic...but people group that up to say that is poor build quality..which it is not..a lot of the component inside the Galaxy S are manufactured by Samsung themselves, and these components are used in varies devices rom EVO, to iphone to etc...
As far as build quality it is actually superior if you look at a teardown video..but as stated..people "group up" poor build quality to be associated with having a plastic body..while plastic may not be people's first choice it is quite durable if not more durable then an EVO...
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That's really helpful information gTen, and it definitely gives me a lot more confidence. Honestly man, I'm just so sick of not being able to mess around with my phone for fear of breaking it. I tend to dabble A LOT at hacking these Androids and the Nexus One was a beast for being able to handle anything I threw at it. My first Evo was great for a couple months and then it just suddenly started going to hell out of the blue.
Now, even though I hack my phones and do alter them quite a bit, I don't do anything that pushes them to the brink of failure...NOT EVEN CLOSE! I usually have a pretty good idea of how much the phone can handle and I don't get too close to the max but with the EVO, simply putting CM6 without changing the kernal or theming seemed like too much. Even my buddies 2 day old STOCK Evo started rebooting randomly about 5-10 times in a 3 hours span right in front of me. We went to the mall to exchange it immediately thereafter. I've seen people that have had this problem whether rooted or stock and I just can't believe that so many people have had this issue and HTC sits on the sidelines and does nothing to fix the issue. I used to be all about HTC until this huge flaw with the EVO rattled my confidence in their phones. I'm hoping I won't be saying the same about Samsung 6 months from now.

if you read other posts in these forums there are ways of flashing back and forth from rom to rom using a program called odin but at the same time ive read that people have problems with drivers and such and it not working right. im a noob and afraid that if i tried doing all of that id ruin my phone. i miss the gps when it worked but if i get lost theres always mapquest lol.

I would just say that my experience with the epic has been amazing. I came from and htc touch diamond which was a good phone but nothing compared to the original touch which I loved, romed, and used for 2 years, but this phone owns those phones by so much(htc). The fact the samsung has given us an amazing base recovery system as well as download mode( which I think is key for any dev phone) not to mention clockworkmod and rom manager, shows great software management potential. If samsung isn't saying that this is great hardware then I don't know why they would make their flagship phone(nexus s) almost a clone other than a few minor upgrades. Rumors are amuck that these phones will be some of the first to see gingerbread updates. Gps wise I have seen great improvement through the test leaks and now on dk28 I get a lock within 5 feet 90% of the time. When we get source I think we will see amazing things from across the galaxy s line, and most of them will be on or ported to the epic. Just my bit for ya;-)
sent by my Nexus S with a keyboard.

I can tell you that gps doesn't seem to be a problem with newer epics. I got mine nov 18 (HW 700.5) and didn't have a problem with gps till I attempted the 2.2.1 update that "leaked" (setup leak). My only major complaint is the slide your finger across notification area brightness control that can't be disabled.... and lack of google apps account support in 2.1 (I miss the most in 2.2). These are not really issues with the phone. Just software that can be fixed. I get good battery life (most of my work day using task killer, which I liked not having to use one in 2.2 got same battery life without TK).
The screen is really nice. Been renting movies on mediahub using the $50 credit. Not worth buying if you can't stream to tv samsung!!
I am happy with my purchase now that I know sprint planned on removing those minor bugs I had and hope they don't trade it with a major (gps).
Hope any of this helps...
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ErlyD said:
.... and lack of google apps account support in 2.1 (I miss the most in 2.2)....
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What can you do with a google apps account in 2.2 that you can't do in 2.1? I use my work email(google apps) with the gmail application and the talk application without issue.

thanks guys these responses have been exactly what I was looking for. here's another important question. what is the fastest rom available for the Epic? I really don't look for a busy user interface I look for speed, high quadrant scores, and more of a stripped down look...let's say the closest rom to CM6 that's not glitchy. it would be a plus if it also removes touchwiz but not mandatory. Thanks again guys

Vipermuscle83 said:
thanks guys these responses have been exactly what I was looking for. here's another important question. what is the fastest rom available for the Epic? I really don't look for a busy user interface I look for speed, high quadrant scores, and more of a stripped down look...let's say the closest rom to CM6 that's not glitchy. it would be a plus if it also removes touchwiz but not mandatory. Thanks again guys
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i heard from a friend of mine the ViperRom is super fast and smooth. I'll try it soon. Th Nebula is also very good in terms of speed and stability from what I read from this forum. So you may try both of them

Vipermuscle83 said:
thanks guys these responses have been exactly what I was looking for. here's another important question. what is the fastest rom available for the Epic? I really don't look for a busy user interface I look for speed, high quadrant scores, and more of a stripped down look...let's say the closest rom to CM6 that's not glitchy. it would be a plus if it also removes touchwiz but not mandatory. Thanks again guys
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I'm running mammons bonsai4all and compared to quantum 1.5 is a lot smoother but I haven't tried q2.0 or viper. Viper to me seems like a final product where as quantum and bonsai seem to be more barebones and you can add more of what you want. But until we get source on 2.2 kernel, these roms are all really similar other than acessories and a few small mostly visual tweaks. Serious kernel tweaks wil be what sets these phones apart from the rest.
sent by my Nexus S with a keyboard.

So far, I'm leaning towards Viper. I have selfish reasons to like that Rom too...it goes along with my username and my car

windyhawk said:
i heard from a friend of mine the ViperRom is super fast and smooth. I'll try it soon. Th Nebula is also very good in terms of speed and stability from what I read from this forum. So you may try both of them
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Hey windyhawk, I'm from the CHI and a die-hard Hawks fan!!! LOL. What a small world! I can't believe the way they just blew that damn game to the POS Avs! I'm so PO'ed it's not even funny!

Other apps dont see a google account on my phone. Like youtube, listen, fi.ance,etc all google apps. Google apps account are visible. In 2.2 everything works as it should. Im lucky google reader worked. The only one that does.
How many google app accounts on your phone?#
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Vipermuscle83 said:
thanks guys these responses have been exactly what I was looking for. here's another important question. what is the fastest rom available for the Epic? I really don't look for a busy user interface I look for speed, high quadrant scores, and more of a stripped down look...let's say the closest rom to CM6 that's not glitchy. it would be a plus if it also removes touchwiz but not mandatory. Thanks again guys
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Cgm is being ported by noobnl. Should be a thread near the top in this forum
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This has made my day! Can't wait for the finished product. There really is no other rom like CM

I've had no issues with the epic except for some software factors, due to samsung not updating there phones fast enough, other then that pretty flawless.

I wonder what it is about the Samsung Galaxy S line that makes these software updates such a difficult task.

[Q] Coming from a Captivate to an LG Quantum...

Okay, so I had it with flashing roms twice a month just to have everything "force close" on me, and having poor battery life, etc, etc.... So I bought an LG quantum, after reading many good reviews. Is there anything I should know about this phone? I know it lacks a file browser, which kind of sucks, but I think the Zune software makes up for it. (Does it?) I have always been a HUGE Zune fan, but I'm wondering, how is the integration? Is it nice? Does anybody who had an android phone have a comment about this phone?
In terms of processor speed, they're equal (1ghz) but I heard snapdragon is nicer. How is the lag? Is there lag? Does the CPU kill the battery as much as it did my Captivate? (Charged twice a day)
In terms of apps, does this phone have Slacker radio? I love Slacker, and I know that there's the whole Zune Pass thing, but I'd rather avoid that. How about games? Anything you recommend?
In terms of texting, PLEASE TELL ME THIS THING DOESN'T LAG. I'm sorry, but I had an emergency and needed to text someone and it took forever to type a message that was totally garbled. That's probably because I suck with touchscreens, though. So how is texting? Is there a shortcut key on the keyboard? *thinks fondly of old TP2*
Sorry for the billions of questions, but I've trusted XDA with all of my phone choices, and I find it astonishing that there are practically no complaints about this phone, but if you go on the captivate forums... yeah... :X
Thanks again for at least reading this, any/all feedback is certainly welcome!!!

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I've had a Quantum for a week. Is snappy, no noticeable lag to me. Yes, I believe there is a Slacker app. I'm new to Zune, but the experience seems to be very nice. Battery life could be better. I can get through the day, but a heavier user of video, etc probably wouldn't. Most of my complaints are probably WP7 specific and not specific to the phone.
Phone pros: slide out keyboard with nice big keys; actual home button instead of all capacitive; volume is loud; overall dimensions are decent; panorama camera option from LG; rubberized edges and a metal battery cover; good solid feel. Phone cons: because of the keyboard, it's heavy and bulky/thick for today's standards; camera is so-so; volume rocker should be more pronounced.
Overall, I like it. It's the keyboard that makes this phone. I'm glad there was an option available for it since I just can't get my success rate to rise on the touchscreen keyboards. Plus, it was the cheapest option available to me.

Thank you for the insight! I should be getting this phone tomorrow! I think I should be okay with the size, if it's anything like the touch pro 2 I should be fine. It's good to hear that the battery life is at least able to last (almost) a whole day! That's probably one of my biggest problems with the captivate is its battery life.

Atrix questions

I had the Samsung Captivate before but it's gone now so I'm needing another phone and so far the Atrix looks like a winner.
1) How is the battery life compared to the Captivate?
2) Can you easily remove all of the Motoblur bloat?
3) Are the problems with the display noticeable? http://www.anandtech.com/show/4165/the-motorola-atrix-4g-preview/4
4) Are there anything bad/buggy about this phone?
5) What about the random reboots and the poor connection/radio?
Thanks everyone, especially the developers who spend their time working on mods and roms for everyone to benefit from.

I've also had the Captivate so I'll try to answer these for you.
1. My battery has been excellent, especially for an Android phone. I have no trouble getting through my day of fairly heavy usage.
2. I didn't remove anything, but it's an extremely easy phone to root.
3. Not a dev, but I believe no custom roms until it's cracked.
4. I love the display, personally. There are spec nazis out there who see Pentile and will say it sucks without ever seeing one in person. It's not a saturated color wise as the Captivate but it's a very nice natural looking display.
5. I've had no bugs as of yet and I got mine the morning of launch. I've seen others mention random reboots, but have not had any.
6. The only other Android device I'd consider is the Inspire. I had that and exchanged for the Atrix and I prefer the Atrix. It's much more future proof with the Tegra 2 and it's faster overall. I also ran speedtest app today on both at the same time. Ran the test 10 times and the Atrix killed it each time even they're both hspa+ devices. Screen is bigger on the Inspire, but I prefer the look of the atrix display. Inspire build quality is very good with unibody design, but battery cover sucks (along with the battery) and the headphone jack is at the bottom which I hate. Speakers are much, much louder on the Moto as well.

waltah! said:
I've also had the Captivate so I'll try to answer these for you.
1. My battery has been excellent, especially for an Android phone. I have no trouble getting through my day of fairly heavy usage.
2. I didn't remove anything, but it's an extremely easy phone to root.
3. Not a dev, but I believe no custom roms until it's cracked.
4. I love the display, personally. There are spec nazis out there who see Pentile and will say it sucks without ever seeing one in person. It's not a saturated color wise as the Captivate but it's a very nice natural looking display.
5. I've had no bugs as of yet and I got mine the morning of launch. I've seen others mention random reboots, but have not had any.
6. The only other Android device I'd consider is the Inspire. I had that and exchanged for the Atrix and I prefer the Atrix. It's much more future proof with the Tegra 2 and it's faster overall. I also ran speedtest app today on both at the same time. Ran the test 10 times and the Atrix killed it each time even they're both hspa+ devices. Screen is bigger on the Inspire, but I prefer the look of the atrix display. Inspire build quality is very good with unibody design, but battery cover sucks (along with the battery) and the headphone jack is at the bottom which I hate. Speakers are much, much louder on the Moto as well.
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Only thing holding me back is hearing about the battery life in this thread: http://androidforums.com/motorola-atrix-4g/283111-motorola-atrix-battery-life.html
On my captivate I could go 2, sometimes 3 full days without charging with moderate use to mild use. I want to be able to forget to charge my phone and still be able to use it the next day.

Well... i don't HEAVILY use my phone.... but i unplugged it around noon, and by close to midnight i think it was around 70% or so (forgot to look before i plugged it in again). If you don't go widget-happy, like the one guy at Best Buy that i was in line behind apparently did because he complained about horrible battery life with his new Android phone and returned it for an iPhone 4, your battery will last a fair bit. I wouldn't exactly expect to get DAYS of use out of it, especially if you have it fairly frequently checking for new email's and such, and tend to use your phone extremely often... but you'll probably get at least maybe a day and a half... possibly two........ hard to say really without knowing how much you use your phone.

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Well... i don't HEAVILY use my phone.... but i unplugged it around noon, and by close to midnight i think it was around 70% or so (forgot to look before i plugged it in again). If you don't go widget-happy, like the one guy at Best Buy that i was in line behind apparently did because he complained about horrible battery life with his new Android phone and returned it for an iPhone 4, your battery will last a fair bit. I wouldn't exactly expect to get DAYS of use out of it, especially if you have it fairly frequently checking for new email's and such, and tend to use your phone extremely often... but you'll probably get at least maybe a day and a half... possibly two........ hard to say really without knowing how much you use your phone.
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Sounds good. How is the screen? Do you notice blurriness, discoloration, over/under saturation/contrast, pixelation, or anything bad? Also, can you remove all of the AT&T/Moto bloatware so your phone feels like a stock android phone?

You can choose not to use the blur widgets and the standard Android widgets are there. Launcherpro is the home replacement of choice for me if I use one. You can get really great looking widgets through it as well. In my experience blur has not slowed the phone down at all though.
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1) How is the battery life compared to the Captivate?
Better, and the phone doesn't heat up like the Captivate as well. It is more efficient and although more powerful and faster, it still has better battery life and temperature control.
2) Can you easily remove all of the Motoblur bloat?
If you root it you could freeze the applicarions I guess; you can't completely remove motoblur itself though.
3) What are the limits for developers with a locked bootloader?
You can have a ROM but no custom kernel. That means no overclocking and the like.
4) Are the problems with the display noticeable?
I didn't see any; the pixel density is higher and that means everything is clearer aand smaller. But... I guess you could say that it isn't as fluid as the Samsung's AMOLED.
5) Are there anything bad/buggy about this phone?
I didn't encounter any problems with mine.
6) What good AT&T Android phones are out there besides the Captivate, the Atrix, and the Aria?
The Inspire is a good one; the Galaxy S 2 will come out at the end of this month/next month.
However, if you are looking at something else I highly suggest looking at the Nexus 1

What about the random reboots and the poor connection/radio?

Tehwall said:
I had the Samsung Captivate before but it's gone now so I'm needing another phone and so far the Atrix looks like a winner.
1) How is the battery life compared to the Captivate?
2) Can you easily remove all of the Motoblur bloat?
3) What are the limits for developers with a locked bootloader?
4) Are the problems with the display noticeable? http://www.anandtech.com/show/4165/the-motorola-atrix-4g-preview/4
5) Are there anything bad/buggy about this phone?
6) What good AT&T Android phones are out there besides the Captivate, the Atrix, and the Aria?
Thanks everyone, especially the developers who spend their time working on mods and roms for everyone to benefit from.
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1. about the same running hardcore uv kernal and dark 9.3
2. you can use launcher pro which pretty much masks it
3. the current limits for this are bad until bootloader is unlocked
4.i would say if like me you came from SAMOLED, at first it would look horrible. the screen color is pretty accurate
5. stock music player going off by itself.

I too came from a captivate and i have not had any reboots or problems with the radio. That is the main reason i left my cappy. I have horrible service at work and at home ( where i spend most of my time) and i could never get a signal. I had better signal with my iphone. My biggest disappointment is the screen....nothing will beat a s amoled. The atrix will look washed out next to it but the screen is clearer especially text. I wont miss the amoled eating all the battery though. The battery on the atrix is amazing. Im a fairly heavy user and i get through the day with no issues. As far as motoblur.....its not as ugly as TW. Some things look close to stock android some dont. I have been trying to install stock android apps and freezing the motoblur ones....so far so good....if we can get kernel access and get a speedmod kernel this phone would be unreal. I recommend this if yourlooking to make the jump.
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