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A proposal to Back to Basics.

I Propose that we go back to basics on the Newest 2.1 rom. They have the source, the offical rom, and now i feel we need to start from the begining to make a better end. The Evo is coming closer to our grasps, but those of us who can't afford it will stay with the Hero until we can get it for as long as a year or more. I know after watching the forums for quite some time that one problem has plaugued the functionality of the HTC Hero and the MT3G (Since Mt3g was my first android phone).
The Navigation of the Hero is something to be less desired of. There are three reasons why I feel, if this problem were fixed, could help us enjoy our devices a little better.
First, Overall navigation. The navigation seems to lag even when the phone is overclocked it feels like when you touch the screen it is not communicating with drivers or hardware directly and feels like it has to go through unneccessary checks and balances before telling hardware where your finger is at.
Second, Call Navigation. How many times have you ended a call only to dial another person when you put it in your pocket after locking the screen? Sure there are some who will say "I don't have this problem" Thats like saying "I am not human" I have watched my phone lag when navigating call menu's and im sure you all have as well.
Third, Music Navigation. The music application on the Hero is apauling at best. It lags and sometimes skips over several songs when forwarding to the next track. Even overclocked to 700 mhz the music app is not as responsive as it should be compared to other mp3 capable phones.
What it boils down to? No, this is not a rant. This is a proposal of back to basics and I feel regardless of how fast we can make the phones or how much we can strip the roms we will never be happy unless we solve the navigational issues driving this amazing piece of hardware down. If I had the capable means I would. I do not. I can only make proposals and suggestions hoping that the devs will see the same light I see in the same tunnel.
What do you think? Please be adult about this and creative answers only.

Theres an app for the dialer problem called Not Call Log found in the market. It seemes to be quicker when using a 1.5 ROM, but still does the trick.

I agree. Now that 2.1 has be released I think focus should be on it. However I'm sure there are devs that are doing so behind the scenes. I know Fresh has got a pretty sweet Rom out.
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I'd love to see a fully working AOSP 2.1 that has MMS working. (Darch is doing great but we still lack MMS heh)

My thoughts on the Arc and why im going to sell it (read if your thinking of buying!)

Hi all,
Now im generally not a fan of people posting 'hate' threads, but this phone has dissapointed me so much that i feel it necessary to point out why i turned to hate it and why im selling it and getting the Galaxy SII in order to help people that are thinking of buying this phone to make an advised decision.
1. It constantly lags, and almost every app force closes (and YES i have reset the phone and used both .181 and .145 versions of the firmware.
2. When the phone starts syncing accounts in the background it renders it unusable. The phone takes up to 5 minutes to load the Facebook app and longer for anything else.
3. Sony Ericsson's stupid decision to reverse the ground and mic wires so you cant use any other wired headphones with an inline control but the ones it came with. As discussed in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045973&page=1
4. The camera takes too long to open.
5. The USB socket is on the side at the top so you have to have a landscape dock which takes up more room (obviously only applies to people that use a dock with their phones).
6. The USB/Power lead that comes with it is angled up instead of down which i find just gets in the way.
7. The headphone jack is on the side (ok this is not a major issue but is annoying when getting it in and out of your pocket when you have headphones in.
8. The headphones that come with it only have a play/pause button and no volume or any way to change tracks. (i hear theres an app that can change what the button does but it really should be there to start with!)
9. I bought a sim locked version which at the moment means i cant root or install custom roms.
10. The Sony Ericsson UI is awful and downright ugly (again you can always install a different launcher, but thats money for an app that you shouldnt need in my opinion and it just covers the home screens, as soon as you enter the Settings, Dialler or Contacts your right back in the SEUI).
11. Recording in 720p is super laggy and jolts all the time making it useless.
I will go on to say though that the camera is the best phone camera i have ever used by far! Stunning photos everytime. And the same goes for the built in speaker.
UPDATE!!
Ok so i thought i should update this post in case anyone was still undecided on which device to buy. I have since sold my Arc and bought an S2 and WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE!.
The S2 solves all the little problems i had with the Arc (the headset wiring is the right way round, the headphone jack is on the top of the device, the micro USB is at the bottom PERFECT)
PLUS it solves the big problems i had. The S2 is lightning fast, fast like you wouldnt believe! Everything opens instantaneously including the camera which literately takes just a second to open and be ready to shoot.
Speaking of the camera the built in features are better (panorama up to 8 pictures, cartoon mode and beauty shot, as well as all the stuff the Arc has) and it films in 1080p!!! The quality is superb you just would not believe it was recorded on a phone!!! Oh AND you can use digital zoom at the highest quality setting by pinching the screen! Cool feature the Arc doesnt have at all let alone with a cool multi touch gesture!
I have had the phone running for about 3 days now and used it heavily (games, video, intensive browsing with heavy flash sites usually for 2 hours at a time) and not once have i needed to force close stuff with a task killer or restart the phone, the S2 just keeps on going with whatever you do to it. I have never known a phone capable of such use!
With my Arc i would of had to have run a task killer after EVERY task in order for it to be responsive enough to do something else at a reasonable speed. For example with the Arc if i watched a few flash videos in the browser and then pressed the home button, the Home Screen would be unresponsive for a couple of seconds and all the app shortcuts would have missing 'transparent' icons. After a few seconds the icons would come back and i would need to run a task killer to be able to do anything else or it would take up to 5mins even to load the FB app!
With the S2 i can just keep using it, task after task and it never slows down even a tiny bit, everything continues to be buttery smooth and instantaneous even after using several intensive apps!
The S2 never laggs at any time even when using a live wallpaper, its always buttery smooth and just as responsive. The Arc used to lag a bit when using a live wallpaper.
The S2 boots up in less than 15-20 seconds!!! The Arc took nearly a whole minute! Nothing so far has force closed and everything has opened almost instantaneously! The build quality is so much better, much sturdier and no wobbly buttons made of cheep plastic. Everything on the S2 is rock solid and built to a really high standard!
There are little bonus's with the phone too, the ROM and UI is much better designed. Theres a CM7 style settings widget in the notification tray, the music player looks and works brilliantly and includes a widget in the notification tray when its in use for album art and music controlls. Theres a 2MP front facing camera the Arc didnt have one at all and the battery seems to last longer. Theres loads of built in gestures, like pinching the screen in the browser when zoomed out brings up the tabbed windows screen, holding 2 fingers on the screen and then tilting the phone forward or back zooms in or out on photos and in the browser, holding an icon or a widget then tilting the phone left or right moves across the home screens and turning the phone upside down when you get a call silences the ring! Watch them here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxCW7U2m8dk
Theres also a wealth of handy built in apps from Samsung including a photo and video editor!, unlike the usual useless rubbish manufacturers put on phones plus even more handy stuff like built in screen capture by pressing 'home' and 'power' buttons together and it has that nice 'bump' effect the same as the iphone when you get to the top or bottom of a page or menu. Personally i find Touch Whiz 4.0 much better than the Arc launcher however i am using Launcher Pro (i had to buy i to replace the Arc's homescreen so i might as well get my moneys worth haha, plus i really like it)
All in all, reading peoples comments, i might agree that i had a faulty unit but even so, the S2 is miles ahead in my opinion. It just eats any task you give it with no hassel. Its never rebooted itself. It never laggs and has so many more built in features. The Super AmoLED screen is just breathtaking, the picture quality and colour depth must be seen to be believed!
Each is to their own, and im sure all the owners here love the Arc, but in my own opinion, especially if your a heavy user... GET THE S2!
P.S. For LiveView owners, disconnections are far and few between with the S2! With the Arc i would have to reconnect the LiveView every 1 or 2 hours whereas with the S2 i can sometimes go a whole day without needing to reconnect!

keyz86 said:
Hi all,
Now im generally not a fan of people posting 'hate' threads, but this phone has dissapointed me so much that i feel it necessary to point out why i turned to hate it and why im selling it and getting the Galaxy SII in order to help people that are thinking of buying this phone to make an advised decision.
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I am not sure what world you are talking about, but want to comment on your points..
1. It constantly lags, and almost every app force closes (and YES i have reset the phone and used both .181 and .145 versions of the firmware.
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Really??? I have more than 100 apps installed from Market & not a single app force closes & there is no lag. There are a lot of videos on youtube of ARC running smoothly with loads of apps, without lag or force close. Every review statets that & even it runs almost as sommth & fast as GalaxyS2 (Youtube Videos)
2. When the phone starts syncing accounts in the background it renders it unusable. The phone takes up to 5 minutes to load the Facebook app and longer for anything else.
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I just can't believe that. 4 Arc in my house, and not a single has a similar problem. My phone runs normalls when it syncing..
3. Sony Ericsson's stupid decision to reverse the ground and mic wires so you cant use any other wired headphones with an inline control but the ones it came with. As discussed in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045973&page=1
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I can't say anything about that coz i have no knowledge about that...
4. The camera takes too long to open.
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Really? Do you really mean it???
"The camera has its own shutter button, and you can snap up to one frame per second at full resolution (8 megapixels)." Source: http://www.amobil.no/artikler/sony_ericsson_xperia_arc/93179/3
"What we might like best about this camera is how quick it is. When you press the dedicated camera key, you are ready to take the picture in no time, and to take the picture is also faster than usual." Source: http://www.mobili.no/tester/test-av-sony-ericsson-xperia-arc/
I have never used a mobile where a camera opens as fast as it does on ARC..
5. The USB socket is on the side at the top so you have to have a landscape dock which takes up more room (obviously only applies to people that use a dock with their phones).
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Not a problem for me... But didn't you know that before buying?
6. The USB/Power lead that comes with it is angled up instead of down which i find just gets in the way.
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Not a problem for me..
7. The headphone jack is on the side (ok this is not a major issue but is annoying when getting it in and out of your pocket when you have headphones in.
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Not a problem for me... But didn't you know that before buying?
8. The headphones that come with it only have a play/pause button and no volume or any way to change tracks. (i hear theres an app that can change what the button does but it really should be there to start with!)
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And this one with Galaxy S2 is really far better? http://st.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/samsung-i9100-galaxy-s-ii/review/phone/gsmarena_029.jpg
9. I bought a sim locked version which at the moment means i cant root or install custom roms.
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You can root it although it's sim locked.. But anyway, how it's a negative point when it was YOU who bought it sim lock?
10. The Sony Ericsson UI is awful and downright ugly (again you can always install a different launcher, but thats money for an app that you shouldnt need in my opinion and it just covers the home screens, as soon as you enter the Settings, Dialler or Contacts your right back in the SEUI).
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It's only personal choice, You can't tell others its ugly & awful. Many here mean that Samsung UI is awful.. But it depends on personal choice. SE UI was same when you decided to buy this phone & it was with this UI, the Arc was advertised..
11. Recording in 720p is super laggy and jolts all the time making it useless.
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A lot of videos available on net captured with Arc.. And after lastest update the minor bugs are already fixed..
I will go on to say though that the camera is the best phone camera i have ever used by far! Stunning photos everytime. And the same goes for the built in speaker.
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Thanks!!!!
And if you think Galaxy S2 would be really bugfree, then i will suggest to take a tour to Galaxy S2's section & i can only wish you good luck... And Bye!

Mano1982 said:
Really??? I have more than 100 apps installed from Market & not a single app force closes & there is no lag. There are a lot of videos on youtube of ARC running smoothly with loads of apps, without lag or force close. Every review statets that & even it runs almost as sommth & fast as GalaxyS2 (Youtube Videos)
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Mano1982 said:
I just can't believe that. 4 Arc in my house, and not a single has a similar problem. My phone runs normalls when it syncing..
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yes really, its really that bad! restore after restore i get these problems. perhaps its a faulty unit, i dont know.
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Really? Do you really mean it???
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yes i do! my phone before this was a HD7 and before that an iPhone4, both took a fraction of the time to open the camera app. and yes i am quite aware it has a dedicated camera button thank you.
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and this one with Galaxy S2 is really far better?
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no, but i expected a lot more from Sony! plus with the S2 the stupid wiring problem doesnt exist so im free to choose what ever wired headset i wish.
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You can root it although it's sim locked
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you cant root on the 2.3.3 update
Mano1982 said:
A lot of videos available on net captured with Arc.. And after lastest update the minor bugs are already fixed
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after the update the issue still exists for me otherwise i wouldnt have written about it
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And if you think Galaxy S2 would be really bugfree!
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i dont expect anything to be bug free, but after using several S2's to me it seems a lot less buggy than my Arc, again perhaps mine is faulty, but none the less for me personally i prefer the Samsung UI and features (built in gestures, settings on the notifications tray like in CM7 and all the little things that the Arc seems to be missing)

I do admit that my misses Arc keeps force closing and randomly rebooting but she still loves it I prefer the I9000 as u can see....can do more with it in regards to CM7....it works wonders on the I9000 but I'm not so sure about the Arc due its complexity of inner workings I.e bravia engine etc and the galaxy s 2 is pretty much the same as the I9000 just a faster processor and more ram...everything else is the same lol....personal preference....I9000
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Facebook takes 10 sec to open on mine :-D
For UI...yup dey sux whether its Samsung,lg,htc or SE. Using launcher pro instead
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I have to agree with the video recording...BUT, when you play it back on another device/player the jittery lag is non existent. good luck with your new phone anyway.

Hmmmmm... I have been tossing up between the Arc and the S2 for several days now. I know the S2 is higher spec'ed but after reading reviews about the arc I decided that for my needs, the arc would be fine. After reading this though I just don't know...

The only one of those issues that is real is the headphone wiring one.. Everything else is either personal preference or faulty unit.
Sent from the Arc.

im_iceman said:
The only one of those issues that is real is the headphone wiring one.. Everything else is either personal preference or faulty unit.
Sent from the Arc.
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So the force close thing is a faulty unit? With a new baby on the way this is going to be the last phone I'll be able to buy for a while so I want to make sure I make the right choice. I'm upgrading from a Samsung Captivate so if the force close thing is a faulty unit, then everything else is going to be alot better than I currently have?

Of course it's a faulty unit.
Or some **** software installed.
Normally Arc is super snappy.

doministry said:
Of course it's a faulty unit.
Or some **** software installed.
Normally Arc is super snappy.
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Thanks mate, I'll be getting mine first thing in the morning now

Hey i want to know about the sound quality of arc in headphone?
i am not a audiophile but i use phone to listen songs(daily 2hours or more),,right now i am having w705 with modded acoustic and it give good sound and beats.....so i want to know is sound quality of arc in headphone is good or bad?
i am thinking of upgrading my phone..........
please give genuine advice...........

djice000 said:
I do admit that my misses Arc keeps force closing and randomly rebooting
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is it true?

abhisheak.bansal said:
is it true?
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It may well be, he may have got a bad one and should take it back for an exchange. Most people's arcs are rock solid though.

can u answer sound quality question mentioned above?

keyz86 said:
1. It constantly lags, and almost every app force closes (and YES i have reset the phone and used both .181 and .145 versions of the firmware.
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IMO you have a duff phone or dodgy apps installed. If youve reset and it's still doing it it sounds like hardware so you should take it back for an exchange. Seriously, my arc is rock solid and it *flies*.
2. When the phone starts syncing accounts in the background it renders it unusable. The phone takes up to 5 minutes to load the Facebook app and longer for anything else.
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Almost certainly caused by same problem as 1.
4. The camera takes too long to open.
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I agree on this one. Also the button is too fiddly and unreliable. SE get a free pass from me on this one cos the camera is simply amazing otherwise.
6. The USB/Power lead that comes with it is angled up instead of down which i find just gets in the way.
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Personally i think it's the right way round, but if it's annoying you could always buy another lead.
9. I bought a sim locked version which at the moment means i cant root or install custom roms.
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Ah, well you have only yourself to blame for this one. Research better before purchasing next time. (or just be patient and wait for someone to crack the bootloader)
10. The Sony Ericsson UI is awful and downright ugly (again you can always install a different launcher, but thats money for an app that you shouldnt need in my opinion and it just covers the home screens, as soon as you enter the Settings, Dialler or Contacts your right back in the SEUI).
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Couldnt disagree more, i think it's a million miles better than anything samsung or htc have produced. But horses for courses innit. As for 3rd party launchers - the ability to change launchers is one of the joys of android, and plenty of good ones are FREE.
The dialer is pretty crap though (i recommend dialer2 from the market).
11. Recording in 720p is super laggy and jolts all the time making it useless.
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AFAIK this has been fixed in the recent firmware, probably related to your hardware problem in 1.
Cant really comment on your headphone issues, but they sound like reasonable things to have a problem with. Personally i think you have a faulty handset so i'd take it back if i were you. If the headphone issues and UI style are a dealbreaker i guess then the arc just isnt for you, but if not try again with working handset - dont dismiss the phone as being laggy/buggy because you got a duff one.

The Arc isn't really a bad phone....if your having problems with FCs etc then as Davey said it probably a dodgy app or a hardware fault. The only thing I don't like about it is the bootup time....it takes forever lol other than that its really snappy
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Hey i want to know about the sound quality of arc in headphone?
i am not a audiophile but i use phone to listen songs(daily 2hours or more),,right now i am having w705 with modded acoustic and it give good sound and beats.....so i want to know is sound quality of arc in headphone is good or bad?
i am thinking of upgrading my phone..........
please give genuine advice...........
sorry for double post

Yeah it does every now and again....but it doesn't bother her and it takes forever to boot up, even when fresh out of the box lol
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abhisheak.bansal said:
can u answer sound quality question mentioned above?
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Personally i've only used it a couple of times as an mp3 player - but it's been pretty good, at least as good as my dedicated mp3 player.
However i havent even touched the supplied headphones, so cant comment on those either way.

Do you have any little disappointments with the note

Come on then, we've had our notes for a little time now. Here is the place to vent any of your frustrations with it. Weather that be the screen, camera, launcher or anything else you can think of.
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I've had my Note for just under a month now and my only disappointment is that it's now selling for £450 and I bought it for £550!!!! LOL!
Ok, aside from that the only real issue I have is the auto-brightness screen bug/issue. Other than that I would say that the phone is perfect and is more than everything that I would have dreamed of. All I need now is ICS and, potentially with that, a bug fix to solve the screen issues.

I still can't find the 'shrink to fit in my pocket' button.
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perfect love it just need ics
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+1 for ICS but the only real negative is that it's ruined smaller form factors for me. Seriously, I played with a Galaxy Nexus and was so dissapointed due to it's relatively "small" screen. I had a Nexus S prior to the Note and probably would have really appreciated a 4.65 inch screen, but not anymore.
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Great phone.
Had it for about 3 weeks,
After MW, Symbian and Maemo I wanted Android.
And like I said, its a great phone.
But, i did send it back for repair.
In that 3 weeks i wasn't able to talk to anyone in a normal way.....
And I think thats the first thing U want to do with a phone

Only disappointment for me is the lack of 5x?? widgets out there at the moment, making my screen look untidy!! Is ICS going to fix this?
Camera is s**t hot, screen is amazing and the size is perfect for my needs. Music sounds as good as my HTC desire did. Can't think of any bad points at the moment!!

If you want 5x widget you should use launcher pro or ADW ex as launchers, hell you go resize widgets to 10x10 if you want lol.
Have a look here at how it looks with a 7x5 grid on LP (portrait) or landscape (ADW) https://picasaweb.google.com/114505993397088135290/GalaxyNotr

Bluetooth audio quality is terrible as it is with all the galaxy phones. I can see a lot of people not noticing it, because I don't think that many people use bluetooth audio much, but it annoys me to no end since I listen to BT headphones all day at work, and all my cars have BT headunits, basically I rely on bluetooth completely for listening to my music. I've looked around and apparently the only real solution is a rom with its own bluetooth stack... such as Cyanogen.... I really hope someone is close to finishing a good cyanogen build.

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If you want 5x widget you should use launcher pro or ADW ex as launchers, hell you go resize widgets to 10x10 if you want lol.
Have a look here at how it looks with a 7x5 grid on LP (portrait) or landscape (ADW) https://picasaweb.google.com/114505993397088135290/GalaxyNotr
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do you have to have it rooted for that?

No .

denialnw10 said:
Ok, aside from that the only real issue I have is the auto-brightness screen bug/issue...
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It is absolutely mind boggling to me how there could be this issue. It's like I'm having deja-vu with my Nexus One. The auto-brightness on that phone simply did not work. The auto brightness cycled up and down repeatedly for no reason, with no outside change in light.
Various mods were done to try to fix it but nothing ever really fixed it. It was always too bright for indoor and too dim for outdoor and changed brightness levels randomly for no reason.
So now I have a feeling that I soon will have another phone in which I simply can't use a feature because it simply doesn't work properly. Why? Is it Android OS? Do any Android phones have this feature where it actually works? Why do they release phones with a feature that doesnt work???

jock23 said:
do you have to have it rooted for that?
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No need to be rooted. You can use ADW, Launcher Pro, Go Launcer..etc..im using GO Launcher currently. Already tried Launcher Pro..will use ADW soon.
TapaTalking on Note

DeathOfAllThings said:
Bluetooth audio quality is terrible as it is with all the galaxy phones. I can see a lot of people not noticing it, because I don't think that many people use bluetooth audio much, but it annoys me to no end since I listen to BT headphones all day at work, and all my cars have BT headunits, basically I rely on bluetooth completely for listening to my music. I've looked around and apparently the only real solution is a rom with its own bluetooth stack... such as Cyanogen.... I really hope someone is close to finishing a good cyanogen build.
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i used bluetooth audio through sync on my pops ford truck and not a single issue

I'd concur w/ ICS..I'm sure a ROM will be up soon, but to be honest.. I really like the S-Pen functionality and can wait patiently for an official Sammy upgrade as I know all the Galaxy phones are a priority.

Some minor things:
1) I find the power button too easy to press, since it's opposite the volume controls.
2) I find the capacitive buttons WAY too sensitive. I wish they were real buttons.
3) I don't use it much, but max volume on the speaker isn't loud enough.
4) I do miss one handed use a bit.
I think that's it, to be honest. I'm very very happy with it.
- Frank

My biggist issue with any new device.
1.The witch hunt for issues.
Biggist issues with the note.
1. Most people who purchase will have girly hands
2. Takes me 1/10 of a sec to change the brightness on my last 3 samsung devices. This is probably the result of my bigger hands though.
3. Cant control who buys the device.
My real issue.
1. I dont expect much development for this phone.

This is SUCH A GREAT DEVICE!
Coming from a Dell Streak, the size wasnt a surprise for me... But the speed has been a pleasant surprise. General navigation and browsing is awesome.
The camera is a step up for me.
The "feel in my hand" is great. Its light, but solid. Doesnt feel like it needs a case to survive.
Complaints? I see a little hitch/lag every once in a while; Samsung needs to clean up. The screen is gorgous but it has some oscillation in color when scrolling or idle particularly noticable on white pages.
Gawd I love this device!
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Lots of love for the gnote but I do have a small complaint. It's too thin; I have a hard time felling it vibrate for notifications. I hope my case (when it arrives) will help solve this.
I never would have thought that this would be an issue with a device so large.
Andy

I have both the Note and the Galaxy Nexus and I love the new ics but found it to be a bit cramped on the Nexus. Trust me...when the note gets ics you will be in heaven. Ics screams for a big screen.
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May return my HTC One DevEd

I have been pining over this phone for months. The Anandtech review convinced me this would be my next phone. After having it for a day and a half, I just can't stop hating on it over every little thing though! I think I will end up returning it.
1) Boot-screen. I powered on the phone, and was instantly disappointed. Why was I already in this mind set when I had been dying for the phone to be mine for so long? The issue: A full white screen and a loud start up sound. Why would I want this? What if I am in a movie or a dark restaurant... I have turned off my phone to be polite, but in something comes up and I need to turn it on to shoot a quick text... why would I want it to blind me with full-brightness white and make a long, loud, annoying sound? Yes it is nit-picky, probably the most nit-picky of all of these, and they are all nit-picks, but it just goes to show how no thought is put in to anything (or rather marketing is put in far ahead of real user desires). It has me very depressed over the whole industry.
2) Photo-Upload. So I boot up, sign in, and am told to setup DropBox and have it save my pictures if I want the free 23GB that comes with the phone. I follow all its directions, then go shoot some Zoe's (a)! Within an hour of using the phone, I get a message from the DropBox app saying that phone-battery is too low to upload photos and that 512 photos remain.... WHAT? I come to find out that for each 3-second Zoe I take, it uploads 30 hi-res photos to DropBox, there by using up my storage, wasting my battery/bandwidth, and leaving a huge mess for me to clean up. Google+ Instant-Upload does the same thing. I can understand why this happens, but I cannot understand how HTC included DropBox and requested you to turn on the upload knowing it would do this. WTF!
3) Camera. The one thing I love about this phone is the ability to take a good photo in very low light. It is amazing compared to any other phone I have ever seen. The problem is, I also really loved the idea of Zoe, but you cannot do an HDR Zoe, and without HDR on this phones low-light photos are just as crappy as any other phone with HDR on (better that other phones with HDR off, but crappy is crappy, and only HTC One with HDR is non-crappy, which means Zoe is of no use to me... especially with the DropBox/G+ issue as well).
4) The menu [...] sucks. I thought it would be no big deal... I actually like the on-screen buttons of the Nexus 4 and others, but only a [...] taking up a huge portion of the bottom is so annoying. ExDialer is where it is the most annoying, as the bottom button NEEDS to be [Call], not [...]. I know I can root it and add back the shortcut, but
5) The Dialer. The first Sense 1.0 had the perfect dialer. ExDialer is a perfect clone of that dialer. When I open my dialer, I need to see a scrollable call-history with at least the 3 last calls above the #-pad, and then be able to type numbers or letters into the #-pad to FILTER the list of ordered-call-log above phonebook results. Seeing a single result and a next arrow is lame. Show me a scrollable list, hide the #-pad when I scroll it, with the #-pad visible, show at least the top 3 results (on this huge screen, ExDialer shows 5.5)
6) The Launcher. I'm so glad they put in an option to let me change the drawer from 3x4 to 4x4... not! Zeam Launcher show the dumb [...] on the bottom, so I am now using HoloHD and have my app-drawer configured to 7x8! Icons need to be the size of your finger, as they were on the first iPhone/Android. Now we have these much bigger hi-res screens and the same number of icons across the screen? That makes no "sense"!
7) Call-quality / Volume! During my first 40min call I was told I kept cutting in and out. We did the last 10min on speaker phone which he said sounded way better. I have not heard the same since then, so maybe I am already learning to hold the phone correctly. Being a left-hander doesn't help I'm sure. From my end I heard a lot of poping volume changes until I disabled Beats. Why on earth are the volume buttons on the right? I like to change it with my thumb, and I guess HTC thinks right-handers would too, but every phone I have ever had was opposite. Also I keep enabling speaker with my cheek during calls - probably a left-handed issue with the proximity sensor.
8) Charging. Man it take a long time, not just that, but while using navigation in the car-dock I keep getting a big white error box warning me that the phone is discharging quicker than the battery can be charged. WTF! I know that, most phones do that, no reason to interrupt my navigation with a giant error box and make me click ok to continue driving!!!
9) Build quality. I've seen about 5 of these now, and my DevEdition is the closest to perfect I have seen (smallest gap near power button, jack not too messed up... compared to the other 4), but it is still not as clean and nice to hold and use as my GF's Nexus 4. I have a beard and right now there is one tiny hair that some how got pinched between the glass and white part just above the SIM slot (not the SIM tray at all... where the white meats the glass). I just cut it as tweezers would not pull it out. Far from "seamless-design".
10) Google Wallet? Even on the DevEdition it is not compatible? WTF?
11) Google Voice as voice-mail won't work: "Failed to retrieve and save current forwarding number settings". I can manually change the number for "My Carrier" to my gv number, but I cannot change to "Google Voice". I have seen others post this issue with other phones too. I don't know if it is a long-lasting Sense bug or a GoogleVoice bug or what.
12) GMail (JB issue). I'm coming from Froyo. My old and new phones are both running the latest GMail but they look very different. JB is much improved and better in almost every way, but one thing that has repeatedly annoyed me is that in daylight I cannot distinguish between read/unread mail. On Froyo the grey is much darker and you can tell it from the white. Not possible by my eyes in daylight with JB GMail.
There are many more nit-picks bother me (gets hot, is heavy, no slideout keyboard), but this list are the important ones for me right now.

Sorry man...bu this is the silliest excuses I have ever heard in my whole life....it's your personal opinion and I respect that but it's my opinion too and you have to respect it...
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Just wow ..... return it and be happy.

At least #2 and #8 should be MAJOR issues that affect EVERYONE who uses Zoe+InstantUpload and Navigation. They both completely baffle me as HTC included DropBox and TMo included a CarDock. ...do they test these things at all?

Bye
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Everyone is welcome to their own opinion, of course, but a couple things in your post stuck out to me:
rpmccormick said:
What if I am in a movie or a dark restaurant... I have turned off my phone to be polite, but in something comes up and I need to turn it on to shoot a quick text... why would I want it to blind me with full-brightness white and make a long, loud, annoying sound?
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Why on earth would you turn your entire phone off? Why not just put the phone in airplane mode?
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without HDR on this phones low-light photos are just as crappy as any other phone with HDR on
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That's just...objectively not true at all.

Annoyed by #2 and #4 as well. Any quickfix?

You could simply turn auto upload off. And as far as build quality, this is by far the most well-made phone I've ever used. I had a N4 and, to me at least, the One surpasses it in almost every level (the exception being timely updates.)
I love AOSP, but until Google releases a Nexus of this caliber, I doubt I will leave this device.
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jinrf said:
Annoyed by #2 and #4 as well. Any quickfix?
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2. Open dropbox go to settings and turn off auto upload ....
4. Custom Rom to remove the bar.
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#4 is solved by every Rom in the dev section
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JuannTwo3 said:
You could simply turn auto upload off. And as far as build quality, this is by far the most well-made phone I've ever used. I had a N4 and, to me at least, the One surpasses it in almost every level (the exception being timely updates.)
I love AOSP, but until Google releases a Nexus of this caliber, I doubt I will leave this device.
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Same. Nexus 4 is a disappoint. Tbh sense is better than stock lol. I have the option of sense or asop roms when they start arriving in the next few weeks.
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OP, how much is Samsung paying you for this post I wonder?
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Lol. I wish. I'm a Google fan boy only. I've been recommending the HTC One over the S4 for months. I guess my hopes were just too high. I'm more disappointed in flagship smartphones and the industry-direction in general than specifically the One, which is a remarkable phone, but so much is not well thought through, and I expect the S4 to be the same.

That really sucks I feel bad that you cannot enjoy the One.
After being in the wireless industry since the dumbphone era I have to say this is the best mobile phone I have ever used.
I played with the S4 on Sunday and I still prefer the One.
It's amazing that we have so many decent choices now. Good luck with your next device!
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Is this a joke? Some of these are silly.
1) Who just turns their phone off when they're out and about in 2013? Really? Plus, if you have it silenced, it won't play a boot sound.
4) Sorry, but if you see the [...] in an app, it's crap. Uninstall it. Find a good app by a dev who knows how to make Android apps.
5) Can't slide left one pane to see a list of call history? Also, when you start typing on the number pad, it filters your contacts. It only shows you the most likely match at first, but if you click the number of matches right below that it minimizes the number pad and shows you the complete list of matches. Works great.
6) When the app drawer is set to 4x5, I can see 24 icons including the icons on the dock. That's about the same as the 25 shown in stock Android on the Nexus 4. And again, anything that shows the [...] sucks. Zeam... facepalm. Try a decent launcher like Nova if you don't like the Sense launcher.
7) Call quality is great for me. Might be your provider. Solavei? What the?
8) Haven't seen the error you're talking about while plugged in and navigating. Did you cheap out on your car charger too?
9) My Nexus 4 creaks like your cheap car charger every time I hold it and always has lint stuck in its cracks. The One is better, end of story. You're the only person I've seen who thinks the Nexus 4 is better built than the One.
10) Google's fault. Not HTC's.
12) All modern Android phones use the same version of GMail. How can you fault HTC for this?

sell it to me..
gtg465x said:
Is this a joke? Some of these are silly.
1) Who just turns their phone off when they're out and about in 2013? Really? Plus, if you have it silenced, it won't play a boot sound.
4) Sorry, but if you see the [...] in an app, it's crap. Uninstall it. Find a good app by a dev who knows how to make Android apps.
5) Can't slide left one pane to see a list of call history? Also, when you start typing on the number pad, it filters your contacts. It only shows you the most likely match at first, but if you click the number of matches right below that it minimizes the number pad and shows you the complete list of matches. Works great.
6) When the app drawer is set to 4x5, I can see 24 icons including the icons on the dock. That's about the same as the 25 shown in stock Android on the Nexus 4. And again, anything that shows the [...] sucks. Zeam... facepalm. Try a decent launcher like Nova if you don't like the Sense launcher.
7) Call quality is great for me. Might be your provider. Solavei? What the?
8) Haven't seen the error you're talking about while plugged in and navigating. Did you cheap out on your car charger too?
9) My Nexus 4 creaks like your cheap car charger every time I hold it and always has lint stuck in its cracks. The One is better, end of story. You're the only person I've seen who thinks the Nexus 4 is better built than the One.
10) Google's fault. Not HTC's.
12) All modern Android phones use the same version of GMail. How can you fault HTC for this?
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Hello there can you sell it to me please...
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rpmccormick said:
I have been pining over this phone for months. The Anandtech review convinced me this would be my next phone. After having it for a day and a half, I just can't stop hating on it over every little thing though! I think I will end up returning it.
1) Boot-screen. I powered on the phone, and was instantly disappointed. Why was I already in this mind set when I had been dying for the phone to be mine for so long? The issue: A full white screen and a loud start up sound. Why would I want this? What if I am in a movie or a dark restaurant... I have turned off my phone to be polite, but in something comes up and I need to turn it on to shoot a quick text... why would I want it to blind me with full-brightness white and make a long, loud, annoying sound? Yes it is nit-picky, probably the most nit-picky of all of these, and they are all nit-picks, but it just goes to show how no thought is put in to anything (or rather marketing is put in far ahead of real user desires). It has me very depressed over the whole industry.
2) Photo-Upload. So I boot up, sign in, and am told to setup DropBox and have it save my pictures if I want the free 23GB that comes with the phone. I follow all its directions, then go shoot some Zoe's (a)! Within an hour of using the phone, I get a message from the DropBox app saying that phone-battery is too low to upload photos and that 512 photos remain.... WHAT? I come to find out that for each 3-second Zoe I take, it uploads 30 hi-res photos to DropBox, there by using up my storage, wasting my battery/bandwidth, and leaving a huge mess for me to clean up. Google+ Instant-Upload does the same thing. I can understand why this happens, but I cannot understand how HTC included DropBox and requested you to turn on the upload knowing it would do this. WTF!
3) Camera. The one thing I love about this phone is the ability to take a good photo in very low light. It is amazing compared to any other phone I have ever seen. The problem is, I also really loved the idea of Zoe, but you cannot do an HDR Zoe, and without HDR on this phones low-light photos are just as crappy as any other phone with HDR on (better that other phones with HDR off, but crappy is crappy, and only HTC One with HDR is non-crappy, which means Zoe is of no use to me... especially with the DropBox/G+ issue as well).
4) The menu [...] sucks. I thought it would be no big deal... I actually like the on-screen buttons of the Nexus 4 and others, but only a [...] taking up a huge portion of the bottom is so annoying. ExDialer is where it is the most annoying, as the bottom button NEEDS to be [Call], not [...]. I know I can root it and add back the shortcut, but
5) The Dialer. The first Sense 1.0 had the perfect dialer. ExDialer is a perfect clone of that dialer. When I open my dialer, I need to see a scrollable call-history with at least the 3 last calls above the #-pad, and then be able to type numbers or letters into the #-pad to FILTER the list of ordered-call-log above phonebook results. Seeing a single result and a next arrow is lame. Show me a scrollable list, hide the #-pad when I scroll it, with the #-pad visible, show at least the top 3 results (on this huge screen, ExDialer shows 5.5)
6) The Launcher. I'm so glad they put in an option to let me change the drawer from 3x4 to 4x4... not! Zeam Launcher show the dumb [...] on the bottom, so I am now using HoloHD and have my app-drawer configured to 7x8! Icons need to be the size of your finger, as they were on the first iPhone/Android. Now we have these much bigger hi-res screens and the same number of icons across the screen? That makes no "sense"!
7) Call-quality / Volume! During my first 40min call I was told I kept cutting in and out. We did the last 10min on speaker phone which he said sounded way better. I have not heard the same since then, so maybe I am already learning to hold the phone correctly. Being a left-hander doesn't help I'm sure. From my end I heard a lot of poping volume changes until I disabled Beats. Why on earth are the volume buttons on the right? I like to change it with my thumb, and I guess HTC thinks right-handers would too, but every phone I have ever had was opposite. Also I keep enabling speaker with my cheek during calls - probably a left-handed issue with the proximity sensor.
8) Charging. Man it take a long time, not just that, but while using navigation in the car-dock I keep getting a big white error box warning me that the phone is discharging quicker than the battery can be charged. WTF! I know that, most phones do that, no reason to interrupt my navigation with a giant error box and make me click ok to continue driving!!!
9) Build quality. I've seen about 5 of these now, and my DevEdition is the closest to perfect I have seen (smallest gap near power button, jack not too messed up... compared to the other 4), but it is still not as clean and nice to hold and use as my GF's Nexus 4. I have a beard and right now there is one tiny hair that some how got pinched between the glass and white part just above the SIM slot (not the SIM tray at all... where the white meats the glass). I just cut it as tweezers would not pull it out. Far from "seamless-design".
10) Google Wallet? Even on the DevEdition it is not compatible? WTF?
11) Google Voice as voice-mail won't work: "Failed to retrieve and save current forwarding number settings". Maybe an issue with my new Solavei SIM?
12) GMail (JB issue). I'm coming from Froyo. My old and new phones are both running the latest GMail but they look very different. JB is much improved and better in almost every way, but one thing that has repeatedly annoyed me is that in daylight I cannot distinguish between read/unread mail. On Froyo the grey is much darker and you can tell it from the white. Not possible by my eyes in daylight with JB GMail.
There are many more nit-picks bother me (gets hot, is heavy, no slideout keyboard), but this list are the important ones for me right now.
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Hello there can you sell it to me please...

Im pretty sure this is another case of http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22166606

john291 said:
Hello there can you sell it to me please...
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Hello there can you sell it to me please...
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My Nexus 4 I will sell, but not until after I/O . Want to play around with Android 5 first. :highfive:

gtg465x said:
My Nexus 4 I will sell, but not until after I/O . Want to play around with Android 5 first. :highfive:
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PM Sent. Dev for Nexus 4 trade, I'll include car dock. You include $$$?
EDIT - please keep to PM... this is not a buy/sell/trade thread.

If you really think the DIALER is ok, please just try using ExDialer or DialerOne (note: I do not recommend either as they have both switched to nag/trial-ware, I am still trying to find a replacment) for a day or two just to experience the difference it makes. To me it is night and day. As I said, the HTC Hero running Sense 1.0 had the perfect dialer (copied from the WinMo5 days)... other apps just copy that. I can't believe Samsung, iOS, Google/LG, and modern HTC don't do the dialer "right" (by my standards yes, but if you TRY it I think most people will agree).
Edit: Just turning off the instant upload sounds great and all, but thats the only way I have been getting pictures off of my phone since the G+ app was released (I prefer that to DropBox, and G+ was first to do it). HTC Zoe has a major drawback that you cannot use that feature properly (and they INCLUDE dropbox and suggest you to enable photo upload on first use!).

[Q] LG UI issue and solution

Let me start with that this is my first LG smart phone, but my families 4th LG and my blog ( tabletuser.blogspot.com ) is full of past experiences on tablets and phones. I'm love that developers are throwing ROM love onto the G2, but...
List what are your LG UI headaches, complaints, "wish was better" on the UI.
Using root, Xposed Frame and a few modules I've adjusted to my liking the LG UI and have zero FC or reboots, but I know there's better out there. Most custom ROMs are cutting edge but you'll some sacrifice stability.
1. I'll start, include option to use PIE control for menu options
2. VZW G2 add volume control to drop down menu
3. more reliable knock knock feature
4. sound equalizer option, I have to install 3rd party app to gain a little extra volume
What ROM addressed your issue with LG G2 UI? What did you lose?
NOTE: I haven't found ANY camera app that works better that LG G2 stock camera app for low light ( indoor and no flash) photos. see my blog for sample pics.
Don't be confused LG G2 is a great, wait GREAT phone!!! I'm just seeking eutopian GREATNESS!!!!! :laugh:

cesar33 said:
Let me start with that this is my first LG smart phone, but my families 4th LG and my blog ( tabletuser.blogspot.com ) is full of past experiences on tablets and phones. I'm love that developers are throwing ROM love onto the G2, but...
List what are your LG UI headaches, complaints, "wish was better" on the UI.
Using root, Xposed Frame and a few modules I've adjusted to my liking the LG UI and have zero FC or reboots, but I know there's better out there. Most custom ROMs are cutting edge but you'll some sacrifice stability.
1. I'll start, include option to use PIE control for menu options
2. VZW G2 add volume control to drop down menu
3. more reliable knock knock feature
4. sound equalizer option, I have to install 3rd party app to gain a little extra volume
What ROM addressed your issue with LG G2 UI? What did you lose?
NOTE: I haven't found ANY camera app that works better that LG G2 stock camera app for low light ( indoor and no flash) photos. see my blog for sample pics.
Don't be confused LG G2 is a great, wait GREAT phone!!! I'm just seeking eutopian GREATNESS!!!!! :laugh:
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Visit the development section for your phone and snatch whatever mods you like, is my best advice. Most people are staying on stock LG rom, for good reason, at least don't expect it to run AOSP like a nexus device.
Perhaps use the Rayglobe rom as a basis if you'd like.
3: Knock-on feature is extremely reliable for me doesn't work in maybe 1/30 times. You have to remember that without it requiring to hit the right frequency, there'd be a lot of accidental unlocks.
4. You should install the sound volume mod that's in one of the developer categories. Also tweak it with V4A.
All in all, there's lots of room for improvement with the software on this phone.

I personally like the way the vzw volume controls work in the drop down. It appears when its needed and leaves when it's not.
Heck, every issue I've personally had with this phone a developer has already fixed. So I guess my list would be more towards what LG needs to do.
The lg keyboard. I love the full keyboard but it's pretty bad at predictions.
Voice mate. Its pretty much useless. Strike that, it's useless! All manufacturers should just integrate google now in there skins and give it system permissions. Problem solved!
Oh, I do have something a developer could actually work on if there feeling froggy lol
change how slide aside works. Using three fingers is kind of a pain in the butt and not functional. It would be cool to rebind this function to something like, let's say holding the back key slides an app over.
Just a thought
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