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The lament over HD in US...

I realize I'll do nothing but create clutter with this post.... but I am doing it anyway
I've looked at everything out there (in the US)... Diamond, Touch Pro, upcoming Omnia (at Verizon), even thought about Xperia... Nothing comes close to HD, in my mind. But buying it without network discounts and giving up 3G is crazy too.
I am completely bummed out about it. HTC, damn you! Why hasn't someone else stepped up to make phone like this that works in the US. High-res screen, high-res camera, thin, with screen of at least 3.5"? Ya know, so you can actually thumb-type without the hardware keyboard? Even if you have fingers that are bigger than a 7-year-old's? Like a normal person...
All this can make someone go old-school BlackBerry... and they don't have a cure for that...

meanvulcan said:
I realize I'll do nothing but create clutter with this post.... but I am doing it anyway
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can't tell you how many times i've done the same, lol.
meanvulcan said:
I've looked at everything out there (in the US)... Diamond, Touch Pro, upcoming Omnia (at Verizon), even thought about Xperia... Nothing comes close to HD, in my mind. But buying it without network discounts and giving up 3G is crazy too.
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for you, giving up network discounts and 3G is crazy. for me, those 2 criteria are low on my list. i view it more as a tradeoff/investment to get what i want (not what i need, lol). i used 1 subsidized device in that past 4 years; everything else was/is unsubsidized. my experience suggests that unlocked/unsubsidized devices sale faster and at higher prices. anyway, i resale my phones via ebay and use the proceeds to fund some or all of the cost of my next device. i must admit that i've been fortunate enough to also fund my tech habit via dividends from sporting "investments". we all have our addictions, vices, etc. unfortunately, the phone addiction can be an expensive one.
meanvulcan said:
I am completely bummed out about it. HTC, damn you! Why hasn't someone else stepped up to make phone like this that works in the US. High-res screen, high-res camera, thin, with screen of at least 3.5"?
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i agree with you 100%! my suspicions are that contractual agreements between htc and at&t and at&t and "the fruit company" have something to do with the HD not coming to the US. at&t is the only GSM carrier with an extended 3G footprint and bringing the HD to at&t would directly compete against the fruity phone. the fruit company wouldn't like that, lol. now that still doesn't explain why the HD is missing the us 3G bands...this could be due to technical reasons.
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Ya know, so you can actually thumb-type without the hardware keyboard? Even if you have fingers that are bigger than a 7-year-old's? Like a normal person....
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with the improved sensitivity of the HD, one-handed or two-handed thumb typing is better than i expected. there's always room for improvement, but it works very well for me.
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All this can make someone go old-school BlackBerry... and they don't have a cure for that...
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tried the crackberry drug once and had major withdrawal issues, lol. for me, it's not a viable substitute.

Feeding the addiction, eh? I'd actually live without 3G -- I keep my Kaiser on Edge most of the time anyway, if only it was cheaper. I am just surprised this is the only phone either than the fruity company's youPhone that has a touchscreen >= 3.5" (HTC Universal excluded). Bastardos... the lot of'em.

Answer me this...
I couldn't hold out anymore and I ordered one from the Uk. Now everyday I'm thinking of sekking it for a AT&T Fuze to get 3G back, but this is what I don't get. I had a Polaris, which as far as I know never was released on a carrier here; yet it still ran US 3G. WHY DON"T THEY DO THAT WITH THIS THING!!?

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I couldn't hold out anymore and I ordered one from the Uk. Now everyday I'm thinking of sekking it for a AT&T Fuze to get 3G back, but this is what I don't get. I had a Polaris, which as far as I know never was released on a carrier here; yet it still ran US 3G. WHY DON"T THEY DO THAT WITH THIS THING!!?
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so, if you're selling to get 3G, you must be using 3G extensively everyday? true? if yes, and i was in your shoes, i would have passed on the HD. regarding the 3G bands, well, marketing decisions by someone led them to exclude the 3G bands on the HD. the market has changed (for whatever reaason) since the Polaris was relased. the first evidence of that was the release of the Diamond without 3G. we're just small pawns in the game...

3G remorse
Yes, I lived in Orlando and now NY where both had great 3G almost all times. I am constantly checking the internet on pricing items and looking at emails. I hate to admit this too, but the Iphone 3G was pretty functional for me. I just hate Mac everything so i got rid of it. I just love the screen on the HD though! I think I'm buying a Polaris tomorrow.

Man, if i could get this phone, i could care less about 3G lol. I am with sprint, but am willing to ORDER THIS PHONE FROM ACROSS THE POND, have it shipped over here and getting an At&t plan or something and using the sim card in this phone.....just to have this phone. Knowing me......i will probably buy this phone, a good friend of mine ordered it and had it shipped to him the other day. I am going to visit him for the holidays and will finally FINALLY get some hands on with this bad A** phone.

HD fever
redrazr7791 said:
Man, if i could get this phone, i could care less about 3G lol. I am with sprint, but am willing to ORDER THIS PHONE FROM ACROSS THE POND, have it shipped over here and getting an At&t plan or something and using the sim card in this phone.....just to have this phone. Knowing me......i will probably buy this phone, a good friend of mine ordered it and had it shipped to him the other day. I am going to visit him for the holidays and will finally FINALLY get some hands on with this bad A** phone.
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I went through the exact thoughts after getting my omnia. I lacked the willpower to hold off for the HD. After having having the omnia two weeks I broke the piggy(again) to get the HD.
I'm with US t-mo, limiting my 3G options to the G1, which does does not impress. I'm satisfied with 2G and WiFi.
Ultimately, I'm extremely happy with the beautiful screen and build quality.
By the way, anyone want to buy a slightly used omnia....CHEAP!

ME TOO lol. Im with sprint right now and would give anything to get my hands on this phone. So you have t-mobile? I thought this phone could only run on At&T? Am i missing something, i live in right behind a t-mobile store, what did you do to get your plan onto the HD and get it running? PM ME IF NEED BE
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I went through the exact thoughts after getting my omnia. I lacked the willpower to hold off for the HD. After having having the omnia two weeks I broke the piggy(again) to get the HD.
I'm with US t-mo, limiting my 3G options to the G1, which does does not impress. I'm satisfied with 2G and WiFi.
Ultimately, I'm extremely happy with the beautiful screen and build quality.
By the way, anyone want to buy a slightly used omnia....CHEAP!
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redrazr7791 said:
ME TOO lol. Im with sprint right now and would give anything to get my hands on this phone. So you have t-mobile? I thought this phone could only run on At&T? Am i missing something, i live in right behind a t-mobile store, what did you do to get your plan onto the HD and get it running? PM ME IF NEED BE
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It's a GSM phone, so if it's not locked it will work on any GSM network -- that's AT&T and T-mo in the US.

Ok, so lets say that you can get this phone unlocked here in the U.S. And sign up with T-mobile with one of their plans, could you just switch out the sim card from the phone you get into this phone? Im really interested in getting this phone and am willing to open up a contract with either T-MOBILE or At&t. Im not a big talker but am a big texter. I was looking into the basic myfaves plan but was wondering if you could use the pay-as-you-go plans with this phone also. Any one have any suggestions?

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Ok, so lets say that you can get this phone unlocked here in the U.S. And sign up with T-mobile with one of their plans, could you just switch out the sim card from the phone you get into this phone? Im really interested in getting this phone and am willing to open up a contract with either T-MOBILE or At&t. Im not a big talker but am a big texter. I was looking into the basic myfaves plan but was wondering if you could use the pay-as-you-go plans with this phone also. Any one have any suggestions?
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it's already unlocked if you purchase from someone like Clove, Expansys. and yes, all you have to do is pop in your SIM card and you're good to go. i got mine from Clove Technologies and it's working great on at&t. it will even configure your internet settings...

you read my mind cortez I was going to order it from them too. im thinking about opening a plan with t-mobile since they have cheaper plans an I think I can narrow down to 5 people to put on my faves. any suggestions man ever since I got my hands on this phone the other day which it was my friends...all I can do is think about how to get it to work in the u.s.

redrazr7791 said:
you read my mind cortez I was going to order it from them too. im thinking about opening a plan with t-mobile since they have cheaper plans ..all I can do is think about how to get it to work in the u.s.
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I've been using unlocked ppc's with tmob for about 2years...hard to beat the price plans, Edge works great, and Gms works anywhere in the world!

Do you reckon this would be a good deal on a HTC Touch HD...

Hi,
I dont know if this is the right place to ask this but I was planning on putting my HTC Touch HD up for sale (planning on buying a HTC Hero ). I've only had it a few months and not used it that much, as I use a work phone the majority of the time. No scratches on screen or phone itself at all. I plan on selling with a variety of applications I have downloaded over the few months. I am thinking of setting the asking price as £300. I was wondering if you thought this was reasonable giving this description.
Cheers for any responses
EDIT: Meant to add that the phone is locked to the orange network at the moment.

ExO_PoLiTiX said:
Hi,
I dont know if this is the right place to ask this but I was planning on putting my HTC Touch HD up for sale (planning on buying a HTC Hero ). I've only had it a few months and not used it that much, as I use a work phone the majority of the time. No scratches on screen or phone itself at all. I plan on selling with a variety of applications I have downloaded over the few months. I am thinking of setting the asking price as £300. I was wondering if you thought this was reasonable giving this description.
Cheers for any responses
EDIT: Meant to add that the phone is locked to the orange network at the moment.
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Thats a pretty good price, you could check what there selling for on Ebay too you may even get offers on here also there is a Marketplace thread you can post on which will draw interest, I wouldnt worry about the being on Orange as people can flash new Roms and not have to use Orange, I would attach Pictures of course.........Good luck, If i didnt have a wife I would buy a second HD from you lol

ExO_PoLiTiX said:
Hi,
I dont know if this is the right place to ask this but I was planning on putting my HTC Touch HD up for sale (planning on buying a HTC Hero ). I've only had it a few months and not used it that much, as I use a work phone the majority of the time. No scratches on screen or phone itself at all. I plan on selling with a variety of applications I have downloaded over the few months. I am thinking of setting the asking price as £300. I was wondering if you thought this was reasonable giving this description.
Cheers for any responses
EDIT: Meant to add that the phone is locked to the orange network at the moment.
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Price on E-Bay for 'real' sales rather then ones that sell then get re-listed a couple of days later have been dropping pretty consistently.
I'd say £220-£240 is probably a good target price now.

haha thanks man, i hope i get it sold too really fancy the hero!
tell your wife am disappointed just kiddin.
I'll give the market place thread a go, didnt know there was such a thread.
I guess i'd settle for £240ish for it if it came to it.
Thanks for the responses.

ozmoran said:
Good luck, If i didnt have a wife I would buy a second HD from you lol
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Why not buy a HD for your wife then?

Unlock For Root?

Is it possible to Unlock a Rooted G1 and if so, how? I have a rooted G1 and I want to Unlock it and sell it to one of my friends so that I could buy the iPhone 3G. Also, does anybody know how much G1's go for? I don't want to rip him off but I don't want to get ripped back. I'm thinking $300-$400. The current G1 has a few scratches on it from being dropped but runs PERFECTLY and is all up-to-date... it even has CyanogenMOD 4.1.11.1 soo? Thanks...

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Is it possible to Unlock a Rooted G1 and if so, how? I have a rooted G1 and I want to Unlock it and sell it to one of my friends so that I could buy the iPhone 3G. Also, does anybody know how much G1's go for? I don't want to rip him off but I don't want to get ripped back. I'm thinking $300-$400. The current G1 has a few scratches on it from being dropped but runs PERFECTLY and is all up-to-date... it even has CyanogenMOD 4.1.11.1 soo? Thanks...
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i say sell it for double so that way when you buy the iphone, and regret selling your G1 you can have enough money to buy another G1... just my 2 pennies

palosjr said:
i say sell it for double so that way when you buy the iphone, and regret selling your G1 you can have enough money to buy another G1... just my 2 pennies
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Good idea... but I have to find out how to Unlock because he's on Sprint. And why would I regret selling the G1?

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Good idea... but I have to find out how to Unlock because he's on Sprint. And why would I regret selling the G1?
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There's no way you could do that. Sprint doesn't use sim cards. But hey sell it to him for $763,987.99.

to unlock, call t-mobile if you have a plan through them. here's a better question, why wouldn't you regret selling your G1

It's pointless to waste your time or money unlocking it because sprint doesn't use sims and they are CDMA where the G1 HAS TO HAVE a sim and is GSM. You prolly will prefer a iphone though it is less work.

crpercodani said:
It's pointless to waste your time or money unlocking it because sprint doesn't use sims and they are CDMA where the G1 HAS TO HAVE a sim and is GSM. You prolly will prefer a iphone though it is less work.
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Yeah it is. Makes it waaaay better. And darn. I was hoping to rip him off.

get your iphone and leave. no1 likes your pointless threads.

alexjzim said:
get your iphone and leave. no1 likes your pointless threads.
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Wow you'll really buy me an iPhone? Thanks man. Your awesome! =)

just sell your g1 on ebay for like 300 and get a refurb 3g 16gb from att for 99, just gotta get a 2yr contract (maybe u have a family member who needs a cell plan or a good friend/gf. except if they ship it with 3.1 firmware your ****ed cuz it cant be unlocked for another carrier unless you get one of those special sim cards on ebay.

crpercodani said:
just sell your g1 on ebay for like 300 and get a refurb 3g 16gb from att for 99, just gotta get a 2yr contract (maybe u have a family member who needs a cell plan or a good friend/gf. except if they ship it with 3.1 firmware your ****ed cuz it cant be unlocked for another carrier unless you get one of those special sim cards on ebay.
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Codani whats going on. Quit tryin to get people to convert to your Iphone crap.

MWAHAHAHA my plan is in action.

lol wow Steve Jobs whores at work.lol

jmon777 said:
lol wow Steve Jobs whores at work.lol
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ok seriously... i think we have another ChrisChavez on our hands here, take yourself over to iphonetools.com or whatever yall use and keep this forum for G1.

forumz we dont uze! we are superzc00l iphonerzzz man!

G1 died today.....what phone to get

So ya i was hoping my G1 would survive till an android phone with the 1ghz cpu was released to t-mobile in store, but it didn't make it. Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever. What other android phone you guys think would be a great device to have?
got the wife a Behold 2, and its AWESOME.....after i rooted it and put a custom rom on it. The mytouch is ok. reminds me a lot of the G1. Ill never buy a motorola product ever again.......does anyone know of any other android devices coming out for t-mobile anytime soon?
thanks a ton for the time!
cheers!

The HD2? It's Winmo but these clever minds here on XDA will soon put Android on it, I'm pretty sure.

I felt the MT3G is a vast difference from G1, and you can check out the 1.2 version as well.

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So ya i was hoping my G1 would survive till an android phone with the 1ghz cpu was released to t-mobile in store, but it didn't make it. Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever. What other android phone you guys think would be a great device to have?
got the wife a Behold 2, and its AWESOME.....after i rooted it and put a custom rom on it. The mytouch is ok. reminds me a lot of the G1. Ill never buy a motorola product ever again.......does anyone know of any other android devices coming out for t-mobile anytime soon?
thanks a ton for the time!
cheers!
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It sounds like we may be in similar situations, this is what I am thinking:
Im wondering the same thing. i have a mytouch, and wife now needs a new phone. Not getting the nexus bc of the family plan we have, and not gonna spend $500 on it.
Since it does not look like tmobile is coming out with any new (nexus like performance) phones really soon, this is what I think we are going to do, maybe good for you too:
I think we are going to find a mytouch on craigslist (like mine). hopefully for around $150. root it so that it runs good, and wait for tmobile to come out with something good, then use upgrade to get discount on new phone. Then sell the mytouch (purchased from craigslist) on ebay for about the same, if not more...
sounds like we are in the similar situations, so figured i would share about the only option I can see would be good. What do you think? good luck

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Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever.
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No, it was a very good idea. T-Mobile would lock it down and not let it be used on any other carrier, without unlocking. I'm sure you know that a large portion (probably around 60 - 70%, if not, more) of all cell phone users have never even HEARD of unlocking. Not being on just one carrier = more buyers. More buyers = more money.

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No, it was a very good idea. T-Mobile would lock it down and not let it be used on any other carrier, without unlocking. I'm sure you know that a large portion (probably around 60 - 70%, if not, more) of all cell phone users have never even HEARD of unlocking. Not being on just one carrier = more buyers. More buyers = more money.
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Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.

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Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.
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Aside from the CDMA junk, both GSM versions are happy to work on other networks, not just the one whose 3G band is compatible.
I.e., the tmobile3G version is compatible with ATT2G, and the ATT3G version is compatible with tmobile2G. They are both compatible with INTERNATIONAL2G and some 3G.
Further, if you decide to go to.... europe, or wherever, with an unlocked phone, you can buy a LOCAL SIMCARD and it will work IFF your phone is unlocked.
But there is MORE TO BEING UNLOCKED than just sim-unlocked. There is also FIRMWARE unlocked, and with GN1, it is TRIVIAL -- "fastboot oem unlock" is the command. This allows you to load CUSTOM FIRMWARE to the device.... which is not possible with a carrier-branded device.
If you like the phone, buy it from google. They are a very reputable seller.
Expect this in the future though: as 2G dies away, you will start to see 3G-only devices with full 6-band 3G radios -- 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. These devices, when they appear, will be universal.

Is T-Mobile not releasing the Desire in the US?

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Did you bother to even read wtf you quoted? That's one of the most pathetic responses I've ever had the pain of reading.
Unless I misunderstood what you're trying to say. As of now... That's exactly what I said. They make more money like that instead of it just being T-Mobile. Or are they about to start putting out a different phone better than N1?

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Is T-Mobile not releasing the Desire in the US?
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No, the Desire is going to be exclusive to Verizon in the US, thus cannot be used on T-Mobile because it is CDMA.

HD2
Heck yeah the HD2 is awsome, even though its not android. Like somebody above said people here at XDA will find a way to put android on it. That HUGE screen is amazing.

If you ask T-Mobile they are sure to say that one of their "lovely" blur devices is what you want, kindly kick their shin and spit on them if they do

and then Toot and, oh, I apologize, TWEET and inform us what phone you got on your way to jail.

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No, the Desire is going to be exclusive to Verizon in the US, thus cannot be used on T-Mobile because it is CDMA.
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JUST FYI, NO U.S.A carriers has been announced for the Desire or Legend and since HTC wants this to be their "super phone" it will most likely be GSM since it will be world compatible (on edge anyway) You are probably thinking about the HTC Incredible (A completely different phone)
Any way I would go with the HTC HD2 since it is a great device and there will be an android rom for it one day and when a great android phone comes out for t-mobile just sell the HTC HD2 (someone will buy it on XDA, you should get around $300 for it if you take care of it)

Get the DROID! It didnt sell over 1 million units in 74 days for nothing. i know you dont like Moto

brettf said:
Get the DROID! It didnt sell over 1 million units in 74 days for nothing. i know you dont like Moto
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moto isn't a good company. They been saying for a few months that the droid will get the 2.1 update in a week but it has been pushed back a lot of times. They finally pushed the update but to the milestone (droid's name for other countries) so now the droid users are pissed.
I would only choose moto for an android phone as a last resort because HTC is the brand for me.

WOW! The HTC Legend looks amazing!!
See pictures and review here: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-legend-675421/review

There is also an excellent review for the HTC HD2 on the same website.
For the mouse challenged it's here : http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-hd2-647049/review

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There is also an excellent review for the HTC HD2 on the same website.
For the mouse challenged it's here : http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-hd2-647049/review
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I thought the supersonic/EVO was the android version of HD2.

only thing I like about the HD2 is how big the screen is...yet so thin like a razor, but I'd much rather wait...even if the devs dished out a android rom for it tonight, I don't want to waste my upgrade on a WMO phone regardless of it's value or capability...simply because I'm stubborn
As far as the Desire goes, I believe it will be coming to T-mobile and if not, more likely a universal unlocked release like the N1...but as far as the Verizon only rumor, bullsh*t. HTC would never let me down like Moto did with the Droid
I have had up close experience with the N1, (friend of mines owns it), lovely phone, simply the best Android has to offer right now until proven otherwise by a later release, but I'm not going for it
If I'm going dish $500 bucks or more for something it will most def. be the Desire...because that is what I desire

[Lost Nexus] There is yet hope! Nexus just on Wifi?

Yep, thats the bad news today folks.
After loosing it I am forced to call on my insurance and get a new one. Now thats all well and good, but due to recent financial problems I am going to have to instead stick it on ebay.co.uk and flog it for as much as I can.
Just wanted to say bye to you Nexus folk....
If anyone wants to buy it off me instead let me know. Is UK model, fully unlocked of course.
I am now going to go cry a little....

Pffssh... financial troubles? You have TWO kidneys, right?

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Pffssh... financial troubles? You have TWO kidneys, right?
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LoL You have TWO kidneys ONE Nexus You've to decide

--: UPDATE :--
Right, that lost phone I had... HAS NOW BEEN FOUND!
However, I now have a problem. I now have 2 Nexi (that the plural?). However, the one that I lost has been black listed and wont work with a Sim inside, but does work as an ipod touch would. Just miles better as its awesome.
So my question is this, can I live with my nexus one just having Wifi? And whats the best way to go about with this. I could really do with the extra £400 odd selling my unboxed Nexus will get me. However, I wonder if I got a cheap phone just for calls and texts, if I could get my Wifi Nexus to work just like having a call capable nexus would be? Is it going to be to much of a compromise?
Cheers,

Sell your phone to someone in the US. They don't blacklist them here.

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Sell your phone to someone in the US. They don't blacklist them here.
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That... that right there is an Idea.... Never thought of that.
Means I get a brand new Nexus AND Money for my other nexus... You are a genius!

isnt it fraud if you got your insurance money but then "find" your lost/stolen phone?

Well when I found it, I called up my provider... but the guy on the line said just to keep it. Had to pay a big excess, so maybe thats why.
EDIT: Maybe thats why I never thought of selling it abroad... I do think that is illegal. But my excess was like £300 for it... almost not worth it... >_>. Will just stick with using it as a wifi device I think.

Well, you could use it as a VOIP phone...

ill buy it!! let me know how much u want for it, in USD

does the nexus one have wireless N? most new phones have that.
edit: found out that it doesn't

You can get the phone un-blacklisted, just call your provider. They may need a letter from your insurance company.
If you have one to sell, new or blacklisted, pm me with an amount in sterling or euro.

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edit: found out that it doesn't
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Yes it does, ever since Froyo arrived.